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Postby Barunia » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:47 am

In the woman's short track 500m, why were competitors who finished fourth in their heats advanced over those who finished third?

As an example

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1 Rachel Sternberg (SAU) 44.213
2 Victoria Gardner (CHI) 44.458
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3 Rachel de Fontainé (TAE) 44.801
4 Lucy Brito (GBK) 51.148 ADV
— Katia Dronk (SLU) DSQ


Shouldn't de Fontaine have advanced over Brito? This is't the only instance either.
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Postby Liventia » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:54 am

No, ADV = advancements. It's when the judges decide a skater has been impeded and would otherwise have put a time good enough to qualify.
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Postby Free Republics » Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:50 am

Liventia wrote:No, ADV = advancements. It's when the judges decide a skater has been impeded and would otherwise have put a time good enough to qualify.


Additionally, Xkoranate has an option to determine advancements automatically for short track, which has been and will be turned on for all short track events except finals.
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:14 pm

Isn't the women's biathlon sprint 7.5 km?

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Postby Free Republics » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:28 pm

The Dark Star Republic wrote:Isn't the women's biathlon sprint 7.5 km?


Indeed it is. The error originated in the event schedule and has now been fixed.
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Postby Free Republics » Tue Jan 13, 2015 11:40 am

For RL reasons, I have elected to delay the scorination of the NORDIC COMBINED - Men's Individual large hill/10 km and SNOWBOARDING - Men's Halfpipe qualifying events until tomorrow. The Women's Nordic Combined event scheduled for tomorrow will also be pushed back a day. However, the schedule will not be pushed back further for Snowboarding halfpipe events. That means that both the qualifying and the semis for the Men's event will be held tomorrow along with the qualifying for the Women's event.

ICly, the delay is due to bad weather.
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Postby Schutzenphalia and West Ruhntuhnkuhnland » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:55 am

So the Olympics is now under threat of "full-scale nuclear attack" should a character choke on their breakfast cereal and the Chairman of the Organizing Committee has been threatened with death.

Isn't this exactly the kind of thing that happened last time? Why would we possibly not pull all our athletes out under such circumstances?

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Postby Free Republics » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:09 am

Schutzenphalia and West Ruhntuhnkuhnland wrote:So the Olympics is now under threat of "full-scale nuclear attack" should a character choke on their breakfast cereal and the Chairman of the Organizing Committee has been threatened with death.

Isn't this exactly the kind of thing that happened last time? Why would we possibly not pull all our athletes out under such circumstances?


Greg makes threats to nuke my nations or kill prominent figures from them all the time. In this case, I think the best course of action would be to ignore the threats so matters don't escalate. The Winter Olympics are not going to turn into a nuclear war. Right now, nobody's died and we only have threats of dubious credibility. Let's keep it that way.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:13 am

Free Republics wrote:
Schutzenphalia and West Ruhntuhnkuhnland wrote:So the Olympics is now under threat of "full-scale nuclear attack" should a character choke on their breakfast cereal and the Chairman of the Organizing Committee has been threatened with death.

Isn't this exactly the kind of thing that happened last time? Why would we possibly not pull all our athletes out under such circumstances?


Greg makes threats to nuke my nations or kill prominent figures from them all the time. In this case, I think the best course of action would be to ignore the threats so matters don't escalate. The Winter Olympics are not going to turn into a nuclear war. Right now, nobody's died and we only have threats of dubious credibility. Let's keep it that way.


And the only time we actually did kill anyone from your nation, we didn't make any threats beforehand. Suffice it to say these threats are just bluster, though there would be some sort of retaliation if Lord Almighty Gregory is arrested or killed, considering he's our head of state and official deity. If he just chokes on his breakfast cereal, you're fine. But none of that is going to happen since killing Lord Almighty Gregory is literally the one thing my RP permissions don't allow.
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Postby Britonisea » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:37 pm

Is there an option to stop sending players to this Olympics please. I don't wish to partake in this tournament. If I have to, I understand but if possible, delete all my players.
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Postby Liventia » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:46 pm

Britonisea wrote:Is there an option to stop sending players to this Olympics please. I don't wish to partake in this tournament. If I have to, I understand but if possible, delete all my players.


Obviously the final word rests with the current host, as it's him who will have to do all the hard work of removing your athletes.

To prevent this happening in future, I formally propose that
• Any member delegation participating in an ongoing Olympic Games that chooses to voluntarily withdraw its participation — whether the withdrawal is granted or otherwise — after the start of scorination shall be removed from the list of Olympic Council members, and shall be prevented from signing up for the three (3) following Games under any nation.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:48 pm

Liventia wrote:
Britonisea wrote:Is there an option to stop sending players to this Olympics please. I don't wish to partake in this tournament. If I have to, I understand but if possible, delete all my players.


Obviously the final word rests with the current host, as it's him who will have to do all the hard work of removing your athletes.

To prevent this happening in future, I formally propose that
• Any member delegation participating in an ongoing Olympic Games that chooses to voluntarily withdraw its participation after the start of scorination shall be removed from the list of Olympic Council members, and shall be prevented from signing up for the three (3) following Games under any nation.


I would suggest changing "member delegation" to "user" to prevent the user from signing up with another nation. Otherwise, the sanctions are pointless.
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Postby Liventia » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:51 pm

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:
Liventia wrote:
Obviously the final word rests with the current host, as it's him who will have to do all the hard work of removing your athletes.

To prevent this happening in future, I formally propose that
• Any member delegation participating in an ongoing Olympic Games that chooses to voluntarily withdraw its participation after the start of scorination shall be removed from the list of Olympic Council members, and shall be prevented from signing up for the three (3) following Games under any nation.


I would suggest changing "member delegation" to "user" to prevent the user from signing up with another nation. Otherwise, the sanctions are pointless.

"Under any nation" at the end should cover it. And Olympic Council membership is by user anyway.
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Postby Britonisea » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:53 pm

Liventia wrote:
Britonisea wrote:Is there an option to stop sending players to this Olympics please. I don't wish to partake in this tournament. If I have to, I understand but if possible, delete all my players.


Obviously the final word rests with the current host, as it's him who will have to do all the hard work of removing your athletes.

To prevent this happening in future, I formally propose that
• Any member delegation participating in an ongoing Olympic Games that chooses to voluntarily withdraw its participation — whether the withdrawal is granted or otherwise — after the start of scorination shall be removed from the list of Olympic Council members, and shall be prevented from signing up for the three (3) following Games under any nation.


You are saying I won't be able to sign up until 2017, missing 2016 (the most important year as there is a events update). That doesn't stop anything Liventia. They might pull out for RL Issues. Plus, in 2017 how would you know that I won't do it again? I doesn't solve anything to be honest. I am going to be here for a long time, trust me. That's just like a slap on the wrist and done. I don't think I can be stopped however, banishment for 3 years is a bit harsh for some, no?
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Postby Liventia » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:55 pm

Britonisea wrote:You are saying I won't be able to sign up until 2017, missing 2016 (the most important year as there is a events update). That doesn't stop anything Liventia. They might pull out for RL Issues. Plus, in 2017 how would you know that I won't do it again? I doesn't solve anything to be honest. I am going to be here for a long time, trust me. That's just like a slap on the wrist and done. I don't think I can be stopped however, banishment for 3 years is a bit harsh for some, no?

Won't do what again? Whatever it is that's caused you to have to withdraw?

Three Games = 1.5 years, not three years. And it's not harsh – it's meant as a fucking deterrent. It's fucking hard work hosting an Olympics and we don't need idiots withdrawing midway through.

Further more, if it was RL issues, there would be no need to actually withdraw – just not RP. The fact that you've had to withdraw suggests something more.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:57 pm

Liventia wrote:
Gregoryisgodistan wrote:
I would suggest changing "member delegation" to "user" to prevent the user from signing up with another nation. Otherwise, the sanctions are pointless.

"Under any nation" at the end should cover it. And Olympic Council membership is by user anyway.


Oh, somehow I missed that. In that case, I second this. I don't think it should apply retroactively, though.
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Postby Britonisea » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:00 pm

Liventia wrote:
Britonisea wrote:You are saying I won't be able to sign up until 2017, missing 2016 (the most important year as there is a events update). That doesn't stop anything Liventia. They might pull out for RL Issues. Plus, in 2017 how would you know that I won't do it again? I doesn't solve anything to be honest. I am going to be here for a long time, trust me. That's just like a slap on the wrist and done. I don't think I can be stopped however, banishment for 3 years is a bit harsh for some, no?

Won't do what again? Whatever it is that's caused you to have to withdraw?

Three Games = 1.5 years, not three years. And it's not harsh – it's meant as a fucking deterrent. It's fucking hard work hosting an Olympics and we don't need idiots withdrawing midway through.

Further more, if it was RL issues, there would be no need to actually withdraw – just not RP. The fact that you've had to withdraw suggests something more.


There is absolutely no reason to swear especially as you're typing. Liventia, you don't have to know why I, the idiot you're talking about, would suddenly withdraw. I understand it takes hardwork but we have all the rights to withdraw and if the host has a problem with it, keep me in the tournament. I won't have to look at this OOC thread again. Also, yes, banish people who withdraw. It is only 1.5 years. I have been in NS for 2, no biggie.
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Postby Liventia » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:03 pm

Britonisea wrote:we have all the rights to withdraw

Yes, you do. But where you're wrong is that there shouldn't be consequences for doing so – there should. 80-point penalties have been applied in the past in the World Cup for intentional withdrawals, and I don't see why the Olympics – which is far harder to run – should let people withdraw willy-nilly.

If the host has a problem with it, keep me in the tournament.

I'm sure he will – most Olympic hosts would because it's too much work to remove all your athletes. The point is there has to be punishment for it.
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Postby Britonisea » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:10 pm

Liventia wrote:
Britonisea wrote:we have all the rights to withdraw

Yes, you do. But where you're wrong is that there shouldn't be consequences for doing so – there should. 80-point penalties have been applied in the past in the World Cup for intentional withdrawals, and I don't see why the Olympics – which is far harder to run – should let people withdraw willy-nilly.

If the host has a problem with it, keep me in the tournament.

I'm sure he will – most Olympic hosts would because it's too much work to remove all your athletes. The point is there has to be punishment for it.


I have rights to withdraw. That is the finishing statement.

If you read my previous comments, I don't condemn punishment for withdrawing. If he keeps me in, whatever, but I just won't be active at all...
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:15 pm

Britonisea wrote:
Liventia wrote:Yes, you do. But where you're wrong is that there shouldn't be consequences for doing so – there should. 80-point penalties have been applied in the past in the World Cup for intentional withdrawals, and I don't see why the Olympics – which is far harder to run – should let people withdraw willy-nilly.


I'm sure he will – most Olympic hosts would because it's too much work to remove all your athletes. The point is there has to be punishment for it.


I have rights to withdraw. That is the finishing statement.

If you read my previous comments, I don't condemn punishment for withdrawing. If he keeps me in, whatever, but I just won't be active at all...



Don't overcomplicate things, don't withdraw (Think on the host duty that he has already to scorinate) listen to Liventia and just don't RP.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:15 pm

Liventia wrote:
Britonisea wrote:You are saying I won't be able to sign up until 2017, missing 2016 (the most important year as there is a events update). That doesn't stop anything Liventia. They might pull out for RL Issues. Plus, in 2017 how would you know that I won't do it again? I doesn't solve anything to be honest. I am going to be here for a long time, trust me. That's just like a slap on the wrist and done. I don't think I can be stopped however, banishment for 3 years is a bit harsh for some, no?

Won't do what again? Whatever it is that's caused you to have to withdraw?

Three Games = 1.5 years, not three years. And it's not harsh – it's meant as a fucking deterrent. It's fucking hard work hosting an Olympics and we don't need idiots withdrawing midway through.

Further more, if it was RL issues, there would be no need to actually withdraw – just not RP. The fact that you've had to withdraw suggests something more.

Liventia - it really isn't nice to suggest that participants are 'idiots', whether they have to withdraw midway through a thread or not. I realize it may be a stretch to imagine, but there is indeed life outside NS. It needn't be a personal affront if someone has to cut out. You shouldn't make commenting on it a personal affront either. Clear?

Goes for everyone involved. Behave, thanks.

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Postby Britonisea » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:18 pm

San Jose Guayabal wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
I have rights to withdraw. That is the finishing statement.

If you read my previous comments, I don't condemn punishment for withdrawing. If he keeps me in, whatever, but I just won't be active at all...



I am not over complicating things. I would like to withdraw. End of.

Don't overcomplicate things, don't withdraw (Think on the host duty that he has already to scorinate) listen to Liventia and just don't RP.


I am not. I would like to withdraw, that's it.
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Vermark
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Founded: Nov 23, 2014
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Postby Vermark » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:29 pm

Britonisea wrote:
San Jose Guayabal wrote:

I am not over complicating things. I would like to withdraw. End of.

Don't overcomplicate things, don't withdraw (Think on the host duty that he has already to scorinate) listen to Liventia and just don't RP.


I am not. I would like to withdraw, that's it.


Why wouldn't you just not RP? It just causes more work and inconvenience for the host.
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Patistan
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Founded: Jun 09, 2013
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Postby Patistan » Sat Jan 17, 2015 3:30 pm

Britonisea wrote:
San Jose Guayabal wrote:

I am not over complicating things. I would like to withdraw. End of.

Don't overcomplicate things, don't withdraw (Think on the host duty that he has already to scorinate) listen to Liventia and just don't RP.


I am not. I would like to withdraw, that's it.


1. Stop acting like a hot-shot with all the "I'm not going to look back here" "That's it" and "my final statement".

2. Why is it necessary to withdraw when you can just not RP. Everyone goes home happy then and no fuss takes place, be a smart guy for once and stop making a fuss out of it.
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