NationStates Tennis Tour Discussion Thread

[Electrum]

Kannapian International Tennis Open I think is now part of the ATP

Kannapian International Tennis Open has been part of the ATP since the beginning of the ATP.

The Second Kannapian International Tennis Open was the first tournament that effected the ATP rankings. The Third Kinterten was not an ATP sanctioned tennis event but the Fourth Kinterten will be. The First Kinterten preceded the ATP.

Looking forward to the fourth one then!

And actually. Now that I think about it, I do remember seeing SWI, and Camron Wetmore in the rankings way back. Though, since a year has passed... that's probably why they're not in the ranking anymore.

[Madesu]

That moment when you realize that world number 2 in singles has been taken out, an unseeded doubles team takes out your top ranked doubles team, and players in singles with no RP manage keep moving on

[Ceni]

International Team Trophy signups

[Krytenia]

Question: Have any ATP events been hosted by nations from AO (Atlantian Oceania) nations, do we know?

Also, thinking of creating a tournament for the tour next year. When on the calendar would people suggest? (Ideally a Tier One, but if we have enough of those...)

[Krytenia]

Following discussions with Ceni, your next event will be:



It's a grass court tournament, to be held in late September and early October. Signups should be open no later than Tuesday lunchtime.

[Ceni]

Confirmed. The New Oxford Masters will be held as a warm up tournament for the above; signups will be up for that tomorrow.

So, the schedule for the remained of the year will be:

week of September 20: New Oxford Masters (Tier 1)
Week of September 27, week of October 4: TOCAO (grand slam)
Week of October 18 or 25: Kannapian International (tier 1)
week of November 1 or 8: Auroran Open (tier 2)
Week of November 8 or 15: Symphonian Masters (tier 1)
Week of November 22: World Tour Finals

[Aloquirbe]

Not being rude, but don't you think that it is unfair that there has not been enough different hosts hosting these tournaments?! I mean, for next year, there needs to be a serious shake upon knowing of where these tournaments are held because I think, more hosts, more interest. Both I'll and OOCly. You're thinking how? I certainly don't think organising all the years tournaments in January is the best idea. At all. Simply because one nation may have to wait 10 months to host a tournament, and when the hosts are picked it doesn't really give a chance for others to try to host and therefore having to wait till next year. I don't like these private talks either. Great for Krytenia in hosting a grand slam and all, but, I think that should've been a bid race where people vote for their grand slam hosts. It's very fair. Going back on planning the year In January, people's lives are much more disruptive than a whole nation. I think that ever quarter of a year (when a new season starts) there should be a period where people bid to host their tennis tournament under the ATP name and in the next three months they WILL host. I think that if we make the ATP more open, we will get better results and hopefully new faces. Don't you agree??

Also the planning above is what I speak of.

Britonisea.

[Kannap]

Not being rude, but don't you think that it is unfair that there has not been enough different hosts hosting these tournaments?! I mean, for next year, there needs to be a serious shake upon knowing of where these tournaments are held because I think, more hosts, more interest. Both I'll and OOCly. You're thinking how? I certainly don't think organising all the years tournaments in January is the best idea. At all. Simply because one nation may have to wait 10 months to host a tournament, and when the hosts are picked it doesn't really give a chance for others to try to host and therefore having to wait till next year. I don't like these private talks either. Great for Krytenia in hosting a grand slam and all, but, I think that should've been a bid race where people vote for their grand slam hosts. It's very fair. Going back on planning the year In January, people's lives are much more disruptive than a whole nation. I think that ever quarter of a year (when a new season starts) there should be a period where people bid to host their tennis tournament under the ATP name and in the next three months they WILL host. I think that if we make the ATP more open, we will get better results and hopefully new faces. Don't you agree??

Also the planning above is what I speak of.

Britonisea.

Personally, for me, I want to know that the grand slams are going to be hosted by people that have experience with scorinating large tennis competitions. Maybe Ceni feels the same way in that regard, but I cannot speak for him. I am glad that Krytenia has joined in hosting a grand slam for the ATP. Slightly disappointed that my tennis tournament was knocked down from a grand slam to tier one, yes. However, the fact that it is for somebody who is very experienced in scorinating competitions like Krytenia makes me a lot less disappointed than I would be if some newbie who's never scorinated a competition or scorinated terribly in the past were to get the grand slam instead.

So, yes, I see your point that you would like a more diverse group of hosts for grand slams, but I think the point that we would like for the most experienced hosts to host the grand slams is also a very good point. As for your point about more hosts making for more interest, I will disagree there. We can only host so many tournaments in a single year without overloading ourselves to the point of exhaustion with having to continue in a never-ending tennis roleplay. We need to find a different way to generate interest than the promise of hosting tournaments.

[Krytenia]

Perhaps having a few four-week "mini-seasons" interspersed throughout the year?

This could be done through a single signup for that "section" of the season (eg for the current period, one signup for, say, two T2s, the New Oxford Masters, another T1 and TOCAO), having a T1 and T2 in Week One, another T2 and the NOM in Week Two, then the TOCAO in Weeks 3-4 with perhaps another T2 in Week 4 for those who are not in TOCAO.

This may be overcomplicating, perhaps, but this way we have five or six tournaments together, some T2s in there for newbie hosts/players, leading up to a Slam event.

Five of these through the year (one for the Cenian Open season, one for the Electrum Slam, one for TOCAO, and one for <insert fourth slam here>, then one for the WTC at years end), plus a break after the Electrum Slam for the ITT, should provide plenty of opportunity for tennis RP and hosting without burnout.

Tuppence has been placed in the jar.

Oh, and speaking of TOCAO - signups are open.

[Frenline Delpha]

Do I have permission to do a small tennis tournament that is non-ATP associated later on this year? For the host experience.

[Kannap]

Do I have permission to do a small tennis tournament that is non-ATP associated later on this year? For the host experience.

Yes, we don't run a monopoly on tennis events in the NS world.

You don't have to ask us for permission to host a tennis event, unless you specifically want it to be ATP sanctioned, which you have stated you don't wish for it to be.

[Frenline Delpha]

Do I have permission to do a small tennis tournament that is non-ATP associated later on this year? For the host experience.

Yes, we don't run a monopoly on tennis events in the NS world.

You don't have to ask us for permission to host a tennis event, unless you specifically want it to be ATP sanctioned, which you have stated you don't wish for it to be.

Okay. Thanks for the clarifying.

[Aloquirbe]

To Kannap's post,

I see your point, though this year we have had many tournaments. More than one per month.

[Kannap]

Fourth Kannapian International Tennis Open
SIGN UP THREAD IS OPEN



Fourth Kinterten sign up/OOC thread

[Ceni]

This year, being hosted concurrently with the World Tour Finals will be the new Diamond Tennis Classic to give the best RPers and other successful players who didn't make it to the Finals and give them opportunities to earn points. The field will feature 8 singles players and 8 doubles teams who will be selected in combination of ranking, good results, and RP throughout the year in consultation between our Grand Slam hosts, the host of the tournament, and a tennis outsider to better gauge the strength of RP as well as to avoid some bias. Nations may also nominate players or teams for consideration.

[Neu Engollon]

Well played and congratulations, Ceni. I had in the back of my mind that I needed to RP TOCAO, but...oh well.
Thanks to Krytenia for hosting. See you in Kannap!

[Levivania]

Hey I'm a returning player who used to be involved in NS sports and tennis.Can I create a tournament for the ATP? I have a decent amount of scorinating experience

[Ceni]

Hey I'm a returning player who used to be involved in NS sports and tennis.Can I create a tournament for the ATP? I have a decent amount of scorinating experience

Yes, that's certainly something that I will do to let you back into NS Tennis... in fact I remember the Silver Racket tournament.

Speaking of hosting a tournament, bidding for the ATP World Tour Finals is now open. Any person, not just someone who has hosted a tennis event before, may bid. Bids will close approximately 1 and a half weeks from now on Wednesday, November 11. Please get your bids in!

Bids must include surface, experience, scorination, and format.

[Levivania]

Speaking of hosting a tournament, bidding for the ATP World Tour Finals is now open. Any person, not just someone who has hosted a tennis event before, may bid. Bids will close approximately 1 and a half weeks from now on Wednesday, November 11. Please get your bids in! Bids must include surface, experience, scorination, and format.

I was thinking of reviving the Silver Racket, I'll work on more details and come up with more info soon.

[Britonisea]

I plan to bid to host the Second World Tour Final, in a chance to regain it being held in Britonisea.

[Ceni]

Let's get these bids in, folks!

[Ceni]

With the final regular event of the season, the qualifiers for the Tour Finals are as follows:

Singles - Ardil Navsal (CEN), Elaine Foyner (CEN), Johmer Vales (CEN), Lonus Varalin (CEN), Marla Gerard (NEG), Botack Andiam (CEN), Dewa Putu Adrian Putra (PCU)
Doubles - Elia Xal/Fia Xal (CEN), Sonya Gredello/Rosa Levinski (ETM), Ray Thomas/Hayley Von Pelt (TAI), Perger Rianor/Ricpeer Rianor (CEN), Coosal Darlcheri/Gyrachor Rentos (CEN), Leo Garry/Elizabeth Quehall (BRI), Komang Antari/Kadek Andreawati (PCU), Ellela Thotan/Ciache Nagya (CEN)

Ardil Navsal has clenched the year-end world no. 1.

Elia Xal and Fia Xal have clenched the doubles year-end no.1.

Hopefully we should have a bid for the tour finals before the end of the Olympics, however the Tour Finals themselves will not start until after the Olympics.

Other administrative notes:
1. Diamond League participants will be announced as Electrum, Krytenia, Semarland, and I have time to review the RPs of all, however I already have a draft list to this should be disseminated fairly soon.
2. Final year end rankings (including the Symphonian Masters and Tour Finals) will be available after the Olympics.
3. The Silver Racket will likely be held the last week of December and will count towards next year's rankings.
4. Astyrian Series signups will be posted a few days after the end of the Olympics.

[Britonisea]

I would re-bid in December.

[Levivania]

Hey Guys, the Silver Racket signups thread is now up come signup here!

[Kannap]

Official Host Bid for the ATP World Tour Finals

Bergsstad
Bergsstad is a large city nestled in the mountains of southern Kannap and is a large tourist city for domestic and international tourists alike. The city has never hosted a tennis event, since those typically get hosted in the nation's capital, but the city is equipped with proper venues to host the event. There are plenty of hotels and rental cabins in the city and surrounding area to hold as many spectators as the stadium will allow for.

Venue: Elevation Tennis Stadium


Construction on Elevation Tennis Stadium began in 1990 and was completed in 1994, when the stadium opened to the public for regular local tennis matches. This will be the first time that the stadium is used for an international tennis competition, but the stadium was updated earlier this year and it is certain that the stadium can host the ATP World Tour Finals. The stadium can hold 25,000 spectators. The stadium has a single tennis court, which is has a grass surface.

OOC
Experience: Kannap has hosted four Kannapian International Tennis Opens, three of which were ATP sanctioned events. The Second Kannapian International Tennis Open was the first tennis competition that contributed to ATP rankings when the ATP was newly formed. Kannap also hosted the Kannap March Invitational.

Scorination: As always for Kannapian events, all scorinating will be done using Xkoranate 0.3.3.

Format: There will be round robin competitions for singles and doubles competitors, featuring the top 8 singles and top 8 doubles in the rankings. One round of the round robin will be scorinated each day, the singles and doubles simultaneously, lasting eight days. The semifinals and finals will add two more days, making the entire competition last ten days.