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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:03 pm
by Krytenia
I am now safely ensconced ensconsed settled in to new digs, so let the CoH RPing commence!

...

Ah.

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 9:15 pm
by Liventia
Legalese wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:Technically, anyone before the invention of rankings.


Which would technically make Crosshill the lowest-ranked winner, being unranked. However, so was everyone else, you would suspect - I'm suspecting the only person around that played in it would be able to shed more light - so calling the nation that "set the benchmark for excellence for the next hundred years." the lowest-ranked winner misses the point.

In the KPB era, Audio and Dorian & Sonya The Sylvanaes Queendom appear to share the record for lowest sequential rank from a winner with 39th. I don't believe anyone's kept a record of the winner with the fewest KPB points in the KPB era.

In the early editions (WC1 aside) ranks were calculated based on finish in the previous cup – the lowest ranked winner was, afaik, WC4's Dennisov.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:33 am
by Alasdair I Frosticus
Liventia wrote:
Legalese wrote:
Which would technically make Crosshill the lowest-ranked winner, being unranked. However, so was everyone else, you would suspect - I'm suspecting the only person around that played in it would be able to shed more light - so calling the nation that "set the benchmark for excellence for the next hundred years." the lowest-ranked winner misses the point.

In the KPB era, Audio and Dorian & Sonya The Sylvanaes Queendom appear to share the record for lowest sequential rank from a winner with 39th. I don't believe anyone's kept a record of the winner with the fewest KPB points in the KPB era.

In the early editions (WC1 aside) ranks were calculated based on finish in the previous cup – the lowest ranked winner was, afaik, WC4's Dennisov.


Rankings only began with WC3, I believe - in both WC1 & 2, the first 32 nations to sign up were the entire field, and this was done entirely on a first-come, first-served basis (except for the host).

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:39 am
by The Sova Empire
Will the CoH have a live draw?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:12 am
by Farfadillis
Alasdair I Frosticus wrote:Rankings only began with WC3, I believe - in both WC1 & 2, the first 32 nations to sign up were the entire field, and this was done entirely on a first-come, first-served basis (except for the host).


Well, IIRC, I remember visiting a site that was incredibly old but featured the post-WC1 rankings. Maybe they were Post WC2? I think it would be worth finding again. But I was about to finish elementary school back then, so feel free to ignore me. :P

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:17 am
by Liventia
Farfadillis wrote:
Alasdair I Frosticus wrote:Rankings only began with WC3, I believe - in both WC1 & 2, the first 32 nations to sign up were the entire field, and this was done entirely on a first-come, first-served basis (except for the host).


Well, IIRC, I remember visiting a site that was incredibly old but featured the post-WC1 rankings. Maybe they were Post WC2? I think it would be worth finding again. But I was about to finish elementary school back then, so feel free to ignore me. :P

I highly doubt that, WC1 and 2 would be ten years ago now…

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:33 am
by Felix
Farfadillis wrote:
Alasdair I Frosticus wrote:Rankings only began with WC3, I believe - in both WC1 & 2, the first 32 nations to sign up were the entire field, and this was done entirely on a first-come, first-served basis (except for the host).


Well, IIRC, I remember visiting a site that was incredibly old but featured the post-WC1 rankings. Maybe they were Post WC2? I think it would be worth finding again. But I was about to finish elementary school back then, so feel free to ignore me. :P

I think I was at the beginning of elementary school when the first World Cup happened...

Man do I feel young. >.>

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:45 am
by Farfadillis
Felix wrote:
Farfadillis wrote:
Well, IIRC, I remember visiting a site that was incredibly old but featured the post-WC1 rankings. Maybe they were Post WC2? I think it would be worth finding again. But I was about to finish elementary school back then, so feel free to ignore me. :P

I think I was at the beginning of elementary school when the first World Cup happened...

Man do I feel young. >.>


Nevermind that last bit, I was actually starting Primary School, hich according to Wikipedia is Elementary School, which isn't what I meant, which was kindergarten... man, foreign education is confusing. I still don't know what college is.

On a more related note, if we had one more Atlantian in the World Cup, exactly half of the participating teams would be from AO.

In total there are 15 from AO, 9 from Rushmore, 3 from Esportiva and 5 from other regions. I think we (AO) might be starting to take this a little too far. :P

Liventia wrote:
Farfadillis wrote:
Well, IIRC, I remember visiting a site that was incredibly old but featured the post-WC1 rankings. Maybe they were Post WC2? I think it would be worth finding again. But I was about to finish elementary school back then, so feel free to ignore me. :P

I highly doubt that, WC1 and 2 would be ten years ago now…


Well, the site did seem incredibly old, and I remember Crosshill being the best ranked team, but the last bit is me trying to recall. But those ranks weren't used anyways, right?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:53 am
by Zwangzug
I think I might know what Farfadillis is talking about, and if not, well, maybe you can enjoy the retro tour. This is, needless to say, from way before my time as well, but some of the old pages link to it.

NSWCC

The even older version

Post-WC1 rankings

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:58 am
by The Royal Kingdom of Quebec


It's interesting to see how The Holy Empire is the only one still playing to now(though not without a break).....

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:00 am
by Felix
Farfadillis wrote:
Felix wrote:I think I was at the beginning of elementary school when the first World Cup happened...

Man do I feel young. >.>


Nevermind that last bit, I was actually starting Primary School, hich according to Wikipedia is Elementary School, which isn't what I meant, which was kindergarten... man, foreign education is confusing. I still don't know what college is.

On a more related note, if we had one more Atlantian in the World Cup, exactly half of the participating teams would be from AO.

In total there are 15 from AO, 9 from Rushmore, 3 from Esportiva and 5 from other regions. I think we (AO) might be starting to take this a little too far. :P

Yeah...

*grumbles on how there should have been 4*

Seriously though, wow, 15 from AO. So I guess AO is the Europe of NS WC? :p

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:00 am
by Equestrian States

I do remember stumbling across that one back when I first joined. I'd be willing to bet it's what Farf's talking about.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:08 am
by Farfadillis
Zwangzug wrote:I think I might know what Farfadillis is talking about, and if not, well, maybe you can enjoy the retro tour. This is, needless to say, from way before my time as well, but some of the old pages link to it.

NSWCC

The even older version

Post-WC1 rankings


Thanks a lot Zwang, that was exactly what I was talking about.

EDIT: You got it right, ES. :P

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:24 pm
by Krytenia
Farfadillis wrote:In total there are 15 from AO, 9 from Rushmore, 3 from Esportiva and 5 from other regions. I think we (AO) might be starting to take this a little too far. :P


To be honest, some of us AOldies (Vilita, Star, myself...technically) would comment with "only fifteen? SLACKERS!"

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:02 pm
by Vilita
Krytenia wrote:
Farfadillis wrote:In total there are 15 from AO, 9 from Rushmore, 3 from Esportiva and 5 from other regions. I think we (AO) might be starting to take this a little too far. :P


To be honest, some of us AOldies (Vilita, Star, myself...technically) would comment with "only fifteen? SLACKERS!"


Yea, seriously, what kind of an AOCAF-warmup are we having here with only 15 AO nations competing? :P

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:16 pm
by Farfadillis
Vilita wrote:
Krytenia wrote:
To be honest, some of us AOldies (Vilita, Star, myself...technically) would comment with "only fifteen? SLACKERS!"


Yea, seriously, what kind of an AOCAF-warmup are we having here with only 15 AO nations competing? :P


You see? That's exactly why Pacitalia wins it every damn time. They don't waste their time in things so insignificant.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 5:33 pm
by Qazox
Back people with a new power cord

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:05 pm
by Filopines
Felix wrote:
Farfadillis wrote:
Nevermind that last bit, I was actually starting Primary School, hich according to Wikipedia is Elementary School, which isn't what I meant, which was kindergarten... man, foreign education is confusing. I still don't know what college is.

On a more related note, if we had one more Atlantian in the World Cup, exactly half of the participating teams would be from AO.

In total there are 15 from AO, 9 from Rushmore, 3 from Esportiva and 5 from other regions. I think we (AO) might be starting to take this a little too far. :P

Yeah...

*grumbles on how there should have been 4*

Seriously though, wow, 15 from AO. So I guess AO is the Europe of NS WC? :p

No, AO is the Oceania of NSWC.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:09 pm
by Maklohi Vai
Filopines wrote:
Felix wrote:Yeah...

*grumbles on how there should have been 4*

Seriously though, wow, 15 from AO. So I guess AO is the Europe of NS WC? :p

No, AO is the Oceania of NSWC.

AO: 29 titles
RL Oceania: 0 titles

We are infinitely better. :P

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:10 pm
by Equestrian States
The Cup of Harmony group draw has been posted.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:10 pm
by Farfadillis
Filopines wrote:AO is the Oceania of NSWC.


Do you really want to enter a discussion about this? :P

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:14 pm
by Felix
Filopines wrote:
Felix wrote:Yeah...

*grumbles on how there should have been 4*

Seriously though, wow, 15 from AO. So I guess AO is the Europe of NS WC? :p

No, AO is the Oceania of NSWC.

*looks at the Oceania of RL and then the AO from NS*

Yeah no... :p
Maklohi Vai wrote:
Filopines wrote:No, AO is the Oceania of NSWC.

AO: 29 titles
RL Oceania: 0 titles

We are infinitely better. :P

This too. :p
Equestrian States wrote:The Cup of Harmony group draw has been posted.

Gah... I am with the hosts in Group E. >.>

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:17 pm
by Equestrian States
Equestrian States wrote:Will the monks earn a victory for Orthodoxy (despite their somewhat peculiar behavior as humans), or will they once again exhibit humility and fall short of the glory of the second round?

Also, a cookie for anyone who figures out what I'm referencing here. 8)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:20 pm
by Saintland
Equestrian States wrote:The Cup of Harmony group draw has been posted.


For some reason, I'm more surprised that Saintland wasn't drawn against Brenecia than I am that Free Republics was drawn against New Sideburn...

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:22 pm
by The Sova Empire
I feel bad for Sondstead, for having to deal with The Sovan Antithesis in the WC, and now having to deal with The Sova Empire in the CoH.