The World Cup Discussion Thread (OOC, version III)

[Free South Califas]

I brought up the KPB rankings while writing my RP and noticed that they had been updated. Since I'm now (somehow) ranked lower than New Sideburn, I figured I might as well work that into my RP.

Felix is 96th and Gaveo is 82nd, things are going exactly how I planned.

Hey, I went up another two places. Now I'm just below the Equestrian States, Milchama, West Angola and Kiryu-shi. Do you remember when I was afraid to play one of those teams? Me neither

o wait, I do... I rose 21 places in one-and-a-half cycle. I was 50th for two full cycles. Yes I remember them towering over me

I'm 112th! I didn't expect that much of a rise. Yay!

from 142 to 89th

For Felix it was from 199th to 96th.

Moved up ten spots, Liventia and Krytenia just above me and Gaveo and Hyskigland just below me.

Urg, 88th.

spoiler=Because it had to be made...

A touch unfair, isn't it? My post had an RP opportunity in it

[Equestrian States]

A touch unfair, isn't it? My post had an RP opportunity in it

Perhaps. But it was still a comment on the rankings.

[Neo Lemmitania]

117th in the world out ~300 doesn't seem bad for a first timer. I feel like I'm moving on up.

Although, I can't shake the feeling that my RPs probably come off as too dry and that that's hampering me. Writing half my RPs from the point of view from a very neutral public broadcaster can't help, and neither can my relative lack of sports knowledge.

Wait, are you saying that those us tied at 117th are there because our RPs aren't funny enough? Dang, I'm going to try and make people laugh next time around and see if my ranking gets better. 'Cause just think, I started at 267 and moved up 150 places. If I can gain another 150 spots next time, I'll be 33 places ahead of Audioslavia, and won't that tick him off!

Edit: And I guess this is a comment on the rankings, so my apologies for jumping on the bandwagon.

[Sondstead]

:)

Wait, are you saying that those us tied at 117th are there because our RPs aren't funny enough? Dang, I'm going to try and make people laugh next time around and see if my ranking gets better. 'Cause just think, I started at 267 and moved up 150 places. If I can gain another 150 spots next time, I'll be 33 places ahead of Audioslavia, and won't that tick him off!

Edit: And I guess this is a comment on the rankings, so my apologies for jumping on the bandwagon.

I dunno if you were trying to make people laugh... but if you were, you're succeeding.

Although, there was so much RPing that I largely just read stuff from my group, so honestly I didn't end up reading most of your stuff.

[Liventia]

I'm fairly sure we agreed the last time the ranks were out NOT to fill this thread up with "I'm now X rank, up by Y". Honestly, no one but yourself cares about your own rank. There's no real need to share.

[The Archregimancy]

<puts mod hat on>

Most of the relevant posts have been made by relative newbies who may not be aware that this is frowned upon, so consider this a gentle reminder that we shouldn't be spamming this thread with one-liners about rank - this is a discussion thread, not a rank-listing thread.

There are some circumstances where a discussion of rank is relevant, but merely stating "I'm 234, 50 ranks better than before!" isn't.

If this continues, I'll reluctantly have to consult with the moderator hive mind about whether we'll have to start handing out formal warnings for spam for this sort of post.

<takes mod hat off>

[Jeruselem]

Jeru FC are looking for a new coach ... if you want get paid peanuts and run a team on very small budget.
Princess Melody is about to quit and had enough of it.

[Blouman Empire]

Can someone explain to me the calculation and the what each column signifies in the KBP ranking table?

I think I can work out the the in the dark blue signifies the WC bonus but what about everything else?

[Starblaydia]

Can someone explain to me the calculation and the what each column signifies in the KBP ranking table?

I think I can work out the the in the dark blue signifies the WC bonus but what about everything else?

The KPBs are made up of points earned from tournaments in the last three World Cup cycles - Baptisms of fire, World Cup Qualifiers, World Cup Finals and Cups of Harmony (this is why WC62 Finals are included but not WC62 Qualifiers, as the most recent three Qualifiers are 63, 64 & 65) - and how many games you played in them. The points are weighted so the most recent edition is worth the most. Other than that, it's all on the wiki.

[Ko-oren]

Can someone explain to me the calculation and the what each column signifies in the KBP ranking table?

I think I can work out the the in the dark blue signifies the WC bonus but what about everything else?

After the points (the actual KPB ranking, so 20.16 for you) is the number of points in the last World Cup (1 point in 3 games for you). The light blue is the number of points per match in this qualification (37 in 18). This repeats for the previous three cycles (you didn't participate in another World Cup, and you went 40 points in 18 games during last qualification and 23 points in 18 games during the last two cycles' qualifications). In black is the actual coefficient. If you click on your ranking (20.16), you see it is a sum of all the black cells. These cells hold the coefficient (= number, based on how well you did in a tournament). The first one is the coefficient for World Cup 64 (as you can see, it is (points+games)/7*8, which is why playing in the World Cup is better to your ranking, compared to the Cup of Harmony). Add all of these black cells together, and you have your ranking.

[Blouman Empire]

Can someone explain to me the calculation and the what each column signifies in the KBP ranking table?

I think I can work out the the in the dark blue signifies the WC bonus but what about everything else?

The KPBs are made up of points earned from tournaments in the last three World Cup cycles - Baptisms of fire, World Cup Qualifiers, World Cup Finals and Cups of Harmony (this is why WC62 Finals are included but not WC62 Qualifiers, as the most recent three Qualifiers are 63, 64 & 65) - and how many games you played in them. The points are weighted so the most recent edition is worth the most. Other than that, it's all on the wiki.

Can someone explain to me the calculation and the what each column signifies in the KBP ranking table?

I think I can work out the the in the dark blue signifies the WC bonus but what about everything else?

After the points (the actual KPB ranking, so 20.16 for you) is the number of points in the last World Cup (1 point in 3 games for you). The light blue is the number of points per match in this qualification (37 in 18). This repeats for the previous three cycles (you didn't participate in another World Cup, and you went 40 points in 18 games during last qualification and 23 points in 18 games during the last two cycles' qualifications). In black is the actual coefficient. If you click on your ranking (20.16), you see it is a sum of all the black cells. These cells hold the coefficient (= number, based on how well you did in a tournament). The first one is the coefficient for World Cup 64 (as you can see, it is (points+games)/7*8, which is why playing in the World Cup is better to your ranking, compared to the Cup of Harmony). Add all of these black cells together, and you have your ranking.

Cheers for the information

[Eastfield Lodge]

I wasn't sure when he started or when he went up to, but it sure felt like a long time. I think everyone else who started before me (in WC15), and hasn't taken a huge break in between now, is long gone.

Been here since WC 27 myself, if not for my self-imposed withdrawl from WC 51, I'd be on a 39 cup-consecutive streak.

I'm currently on a 17 cup streak, so I feel rather new.
But then I look at a lot of the teams in the World Cup, and see that they're newer than me (quite a lot newer, in many cases), which makes me feel old...


Still, I don't think anyone here can beat a consecutive streak of 10 unsuccessful qualifications, can they?

[Horusland]

Been here since WC 27 myself, if not for my self-imposed withdrawl from WC 51, I'd be on a 39 cup-consecutive streak.

I'm currently on a 17 cup streak, so I feel rather new.
But then I look at a lot of the teams in the World Cup, and see that they're newer than me (quite a lot newer, in many cases), which makes me feel old...


Still, I don't think anyone here can beat a consecutive streak of 10 unsuccessful qualifications, can they?

I will, believe me.
this is my third, though. You'll have to wait.

[Equestrian States]

Still, I don't think anyone here can beat a consecutive streak of 10 unsuccessful qualifications, can they?

I dunno. The only ones I can think of that would be close to that unenviable streak are either puppets or just generally inactive nations (Soviet Canuckistan, maybe?).

Someday, your luck will change. RPing regularly helps, of course, but luck is always what seems to decide it in the end.

[Eastfield Lodge]

Still, I don't think anyone here can beat a consecutive streak of 10 unsuccessful qualifications, can they?

I dunno. The only ones I can think of that would be close to that unenviable streak are either puppets or just generally inactive nations (Soviet Canuckistan, maybe?).

Someday, your luck will change. RPing regularly helps, of course, but luck is always what seems to decide it in the end.

This is the first World Cup in a while where random has actually worked out for me. In that I only dropped two points to teams ranked lower than me (I think), whereas it's usually 10 or so.

And yes, RP'ing regularly will help. RP'ing well is rather beyond me though.

[Ko-oren]

Still, I don't think anyone here can beat a consecutive streak of 10 unsuccessful qualifications, can they?

Oops, got to 8 until I qualified for last World Cup. I was close, though.

[Eastfield Lodge]

Still, I don't think anyone here can beat a consecutive streak of 10 unsuccessful qualifications, can they?

Oops, got to 8 until I qualified for last World Cup. I was close, though.

I'm at 10 at the moment. And if I hadn't qualified for WC55, it'd be 17 in a row.

[Karditan]

Still, I don't think anyone here can beat a consecutive streak of 10 unsuccessful qualifications, can they?

If I remember right, the infamous non-qualifiers from when I first joined were either Swartaz or Stachland (I think Swartaz, but I always get them mixed up) who I think hit a dozen cycles without qualing. Michael VII also had a bit of a streak like that, but it seemed worse because he also kept missing bombing out of the WBC and WB in the group stage at the same time.

[Qazox]

Putting this here becuase it'll be seen by the most people here:

Grrr. Tablet's powercord is not working, so i might not be on for a couple of days. Soryy all.

[The Wave]

Just wanted to say thanks to all participants--past, present, and future--for making this such an entertaining part of my life. To be honest, I get insecure sometimes about how much this means to me and how terrified I am of ruining other people's fun here. So I want to take time to celebrate things when they're going well, just in and of themselves. The other people in my house will be like "what are you chuckling about over there," and yeah, it's a little embarrassing to say "someone just rhymed one of their rivals' names and it actually scans..." but I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm not going to pretend to make a comprehensive list of everything that made me chuckle during these qualifiers, but some particular, uh, standouts were Ossidiacqua's "Master of the House," Kalumba's disclaimers of how Mr. Spleen does not represent the opinion of the authorities, the Neo Lemmitanian meltdown against Krytenia, and Paradystopia's urine-inspired humor. Here's to the laughs and groans still to come!
*I also get insecure about posting slightly-rambly WCDT posts under my own name and being identifiably irrelevant, so here we are.

[The Sova Empire]

-snip-

But in all seriousness, I really find that heartwarming that someone might actually be looking at my pieces of garbage RP's and might be enlightening someone's day. I don't even know you, yet your honesty makes me know that there should be more people like you in the world.

Nice first post. Welcome to NS Sports.

[Liventia]

Nice first post. Welcome to NS Sports.

The small print would suggest The Wave is a regular, but just doesn't want to be identified.

[Sangti]

What is the tiebreaker for nations having the same KPB?

[Vilita]

What is the tiebreaker for nations having the same KPB?

There is none

The KPB is used in scorination, not the rank. The Rank "position" is just for show, if you are listed in 253rd but have the same exact KPB score as the nation in 252nd, then you can feel free to say you are ranked 252nd if you really want to

[Maklohi Vai]

What is the tiebreaker for nations having the same KPB?

In the rankings? I believe alphabetical order in that case, but I'm not sure. Could be random.