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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:56 pm

Stellonia wrote:
Liventia wrote:The Olympic Charter provides for an order of succession; Saintland/Free Republics would be acting President (see 1.3.1).

Gregory certainly disapproves.


Well, we signed a historic peace treaty with the Free Republics and took them off our Enemy List, but we still don't like Saintland very much. And if Izmailov wins the Consul election next WC Cycle, I'm guessing he's closing the embassy in Capital District and try to nullify the Peace Treaty. He doesn't like us very much.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:06 pm

At this point, Vekaiyu would readily support a bid performed in a timely manner.
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Postby Liventia » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:40 am

Todd McCloud wrote:At this point, Vekaiyu would readily support a bid performed in a timely manner.

I fail to see why the timeframe should be such an issue. Would you really rather vote for a n00b who promised to get it underway in a month vs an experienced user who said they'd be ready in October?

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:
Liventia wrote:The Olympic Charter provides for an order of succession; Saintland/Free Republics would be acting President (see 1.3.1).


Ok, Saintland/FFR mentioned on IRC that he doesn't have the password to the Olympic Council account. Would you happen to still have it, or maybe Commerce Heights does?

I'll pass it on to him when I'm next online.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:42 am

Liventia wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:At this point, Vekaiyu would readily support a bid performed in a timely manner.

I fail to see why the timeframe should be such an issue. Would you really rather vote for a n00b who promised to get it underway in a month vs an experienced user who said they'd be ready in October?

Krytenia submitted a bid. I wouldn't call him a n00b.

I mean, I can wait for other bids, including Electrum's which will come in a few months, but the comment was more IC-related than OOC-related. Of course it's better to have it done right than done fast.
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:01 am

Krytenia wrote:2. Anthems will be limited to no more than three minutes duration.

What, even including the Archregimancy's 2-hour-long 'anthem' which is actually a complete religious ritual?
If so, then I can foresee loud cries of "Is outrage!"
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:56 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Krytenia wrote:2. Anthems will be limited to no more than three minutes duration.

What, even including the Archregimancy's 2-hour-long 'anthem' which is actually a complete religious ritual?
If so, then I can foresee loud cries of "Is outrage!"


Is outrage.

But is OK.

If heathen Krytenia authorities not be allowing glorious full national anthem of sporty God-fearing monks, we play highly speeded up version so that entire two hours is completed in two minutes.

But you can also be sure that we will be doing the heavy protesting on behalf of Monastic Olympic Committee.
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Postby Liventia » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:23 am

Todd McCloud wrote:
Liventia wrote:I fail to see why the timeframe should be such an issue. Would you really rather vote for a n00b who promised to get it underway in a month vs an experienced user who said they'd be ready in October?

Krytenia submitted a bid. I wouldn't call him a n00b.

If you think I'm calling Krytenia a n00b you need to re-evaluate your comprehension skills.
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Postby Krytenia » Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:18 pm

So, I was talking to people on IRC, people I consider to be effectively friends despite the fact I have never met them, people genuinely concerned for my mental health and well-being if I host this monster, and lo:

Krytenia's bid is withdrawn.

Apologies.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:13 pm

Krytenia wrote:So, I was talking to people on IRC, people I consider to be effectively friends despite the fact I have never met them, people genuinely concerned for my mental health and well-being if I host this monster, and lo:

Krytenia's bid is withdrawn.

Apologies.

I appreciate your honesty with yourself and with us here. No worries whatsoever.
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Postby New West Guiana » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:27 pm

Krytenia wrote:So, I was talking to people on IRC, people I consider to be effectively friends despite the fact I have never met them, people genuinely concerned for my mental health and well-being if I host this monster, and lo:

Krytenia's bid is withdrawn.

Apologies.

You shouldn't apologize you put your own health ahead of something that simply doesn't matter outside of NS. My post on the regions RMB was jokingly and serious concerning that you and KP nearly did go insane hosting it. I was shocked that you did post a bid after everything you had said about the matter.

And everyone else please put the idea of that the Summer Olympics MUST be hosted in a timely manner before years end at a rest. If some one well qualified feels that their mental health is strong enough and that they have the time and ability to host it puts forth a bid, they will. Don't push especially those who have very little knowledge of the NSOC. As Liventia has said a few times, it doesn't matter if the olympics were to take a year off, the world wont stop spinning everything will continue has it always had.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:32 pm

New West Guiana wrote:
Krytenia wrote:So, I was talking to people on IRC, people I consider to be effectively friends despite the fact I have never met them, people genuinely concerned for my mental health and well-being if I host this monster, and lo:

Krytenia's bid is withdrawn.

Apologies.

You shouldn't apologize you put your own health ahead of something that simply doesn't matter outside of NS. My post on the regions RMB was jokingly and serious concerning that you and KP nearly did go insane hosting it. I was shocked that you did post a bid after everything you had said about the matter.

And everyone else please put the idea of that the Summer Olympics MUST be hosted in a timely manner before years end at a rest. If some one well qualified feels that their mental health is strong enough and that they have the time and ability to host it puts forth a bid, they will. Don't push especially those who have very little knowledge of the NSOC. As Liventia has said a few times, it doesn't matter if the olympics were to take a year off, the world wont stop spinning everything will continue has it always had.


Technically speaking, the Summer Olympics have to be hosted before we can have a Winter Olympics, which are much easier to host. That being said, if there's no bid for the Summer Olympics by next January/February and someone wants to host the Winter Olympics, I'll put in a "bid" for the Summer Games with the understanding that everyone will boycott it for IC reasons (shouldn't be hard to think of one) and it will be canceled. Seeing as we've had at least one canceled Summer Olympics on NS before, and there is RL precedent as well, that should satisfy the constitutional requirement of "holding" a Games.
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Postby Liventia » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:33 pm

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:
New West Guiana wrote:You shouldn't apologize you put your own health ahead of something that simply doesn't matter outside of NS. My post on the regions RMB was jokingly and serious concerning that you and KP nearly did go insane hosting it. I was shocked that you did post a bid after everything you had said about the matter.

And everyone else please put the idea of that the Summer Olympics MUST be hosted in a timely manner before years end at a rest. If some one well qualified feels that their mental health is strong enough and that they have the time and ability to host it puts forth a bid, they will. Don't push especially those who have very little knowledge of the NSOC. As Liventia has said a few times, it doesn't matter if the olympics were to take a year off, the world wont stop spinning everything will continue has it always had.


Technically speaking, the Summer Olympics have to be hosted before we can have a Winter Olympics, which are much easier to host. That being said, if there's no bid for the Summer Olympics by next January/February and someone wants to host the Winter Olympics, I'll put in a "bid" for the Summer Games with the understanding that everyone will boycott it for IC reasons (shouldn't be hard to think of one) and it will be canceled. Seeing as we've had at least one canceled Summer Olympics on NS before, and there is RL precedent as well, that should satisfy the constitutional requirement of "holding" a Games.

Or, you know, we could just change the Olympic Charter.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Wed Aug 12, 2015 4:57 pm

Liventia wrote:
Gregoryisgodistan wrote:
Technically speaking, the Summer Olympics have to be hosted before we can have a Winter Olympics, which are much easier to host. That being said, if there's no bid for the Summer Olympics by next January/February and someone wants to host the Winter Olympics, I'll put in a "bid" for the Summer Games with the understanding that everyone will boycott it for IC reasons (shouldn't be hard to think of one) and it will be canceled. Seeing as we've had at least one canceled Summer Olympics on NS before, and there is RL precedent as well, that should satisfy the constitutional requirement of "holding" a Games.

Or, you know, we could just change the Olympic Charter.


But I want to write my god-awful (or is it Greg-awful) bid for the Olympics that no sane athlete would want to participate in. Oh well, I can do it as an IC thing whenever we have an Olympics.
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Postby New West Guiana » Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:07 pm

Gregoryisgodistan wrote: I'll put in a "bid" for the Summer Games with the understanding that everyone will boycott it for IC reasons (shouldn't be hard to think of one) and it will be canceled.

Well I I meant by this was a year off from the olympics in general, also not everyone would boycott ICly I would throw in my hellhole Fantoa which would challenge the cruelty of your nation.
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Postby Electrum » Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:12 am

Liventia wrote:
Electrum wrote:I'm still looking at a potential bid for the Summer Olympics between November-December, and trust me, a lot of planning is already taking place for that to happen. In the mean time, why don't you check out another multi-sport event I am hosting in preparation for that...

Given the new bid for an October-November Olympics, what are your plans? Do you still intend to bid, and if so would you continue to do so with a November-December timeframe? (We're still a few months out, so if you want to, don't feel put off by Kry's bid.)


Yes, I still intend to bid. Details will be up in 48-72 hours.

Just so I'm really sure I can do it, I'll postpone it until halfway through the Multiverse Games.
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Postby Kelssek » Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:50 pm

To say out loud something I've mentioned privately before: we need to think seriously about co-hosted Olympics, particularly the Summer ones. After all, the World Cup has mandatory co-hosting and yet it's much less work than the Olympics, and also has more risk of going wrong if there's poor host co-ordination or one of them goes AWOL.

Ideally co-hosts would divide up the sports they would be responsible for. Indeed I don't see there needing to be a whole lot of coordination beyond that, certainly less than I remember from doing the World Cup. If and when delays occur, that's not really a big deal, because the swimming can go on regardless of whether there's a result in the gymnastics or equestrian.

So, potential hosts, think about it...

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Postby Liventia » Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:05 am

Kelssek wrote:To say out loud something I've mentioned privately before: we need to think seriously about co-hosted Olympics, particularly the Summer ones. After all, the World Cup has mandatory co-hosting and yet it's much less work than the Olympics, and also has more risk of going wrong if there's poor host co-ordination or one of them goes AWOL.

Ideally co-hosts would divide up the sports they would be responsible for. Indeed I don't see there needing to be a whole lot of coordination beyond that, certainly less than I remember from doing the World Cup. If and when delays occur, that's not really a big deal, because the swimming can go on regardless of whether there's a result in the gymnastics or equestrian.

So, potential hosts, think about it...

I think I would personally prefer OOC cohosting but not IC unless it really made sense (e.g. two nations close to each other in the same region). OOC cohosting pretty much happened with the last summer Olympics anyway, as Zwang and myself helped KP with quite a few events.

Re co-ordination – speaking from that experience last year – I think you're wrong. There's a lot of co-ordination. I think the main issue from last year at least was when there were delays (I couldn't scorinate on a few days I'd originally planned to) the RP bonus gets quite jumbled up because some sports are then ahead of others. It shouldn't bear pointing out but in a co-hosted Olympics there have to be safeguards to ensure both/all co-hosts are working off the same RP bonus file (controlled by the 'main host'), and not dishing out their own. This should also prevent any issues should one of the co-hosts suddenly disappear into the ether.
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Postby Electrum » Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:39 am

Electrum wrote:Just so I'm really sure I can do it, I'll postpone it until halfway through the Multiverse Games.





Games of the X Olympiad - Centralis, Electrum and Nassau Bay, New Gelderland (aka Ceni)

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The Nations
New Gelderland is a small nation with around 15 million people in Rushmore, located to the south of Electrum and Rhodesiah and to the west of Nouvelle Angouleme. Its capital is Lexington, located at the confluence of the Great Rushmori River and the Rogue River, and its largest city is Nassau Bay, located at the bay of the same name and the mouth of the Talos River. Other major cities include Noviodunum, Flint Ridge, Vaduz, Arrowhead Point, and Queenstown. The flat land alongside New Gelderland's multiple rivers is extremely suitable for farming, while the Flint Ridge Mountains serve as a haven for winter play. Nassau Bay will be New Gelderland's host city.

Electrum is a slightly larger nation of 40 million people in Rushmore, with borders with Valladares (via the Junin Enclave), Eura, Rhodesiah, Rio Oscuro and New Gelderland to its South. It is known for its vast international commerce and love for all things sport. It is also known for its strict pacifism and anti-war stance, the nation being founded by refugees who happened upon some no man’s land in Rushmore. Its capital and largest city is Centralis, on the mouth of the renowned Eridanus River. Other major centres include Agri, Hamilton, Port Grenville, Kale, Auras, Prescott, Somer and Warburton-Fairleigh. Centralis will be the Electrum host city.

Together, New Gelderland and Electrum share a combined Terranean history with the Great Rushmori River connecting the two nations together. The two nations are also connected by rail with a maglev system between the two cities, which travels on average at approximately 250km/hr (a maximum speed of 300km/hr) -- taking only three hours. They are 750km apart, and can be travelled by plane in 1 and a half hours.

The Venues
Other than the Road Cycling, which will be held across both nations, each nation will host different sports (list in OOC section). The Cycling Road Races will start at Fairleigh, and will end up at Nassau Bay, meanwhile, the Time Trial will have laps in both Fairleigh, Electrum, and finish with laps in its twin town, Geldectrum.

On the Electrum side of things, Badminton and Aquatics will be held at the Centralis Sports and Aquatics Centre (CSAC). Basketball will be held in the Centralis University Basketball Stadium and National Electrum University Basketball Stadium, both of which hosted the IBC when it was in Electrum. The Track Cycling will be held at the Marise Symons Velodrome, named after Electrum’s founder of the Cycling federation in Electrum. The Boxing, Taekwondo, Judo, Weightlifting and Wrestling will all be held at the Centralis Convention and Exhibition Centre. The Sailing will be held at Portsmouth, on Bittern Bay. The table tennis will be played at Centralis Town Hall, whilst Tennis will be played where the Electrum Slam is usually played, the National Tennis Centre (NTC). Volleyball will be played at the Multipurpose Venue, built in the Multiverse Games, whilst the beach variety will be played in Newton Beach. The football matches will be played across the nation, bringing the multiverse’s game to Agri, Prescott, Hamilton, Somer, Port Grenville, Burnton, Fairleigh and Somer. CSAC, the NTC, the Multipurpose venue, Centralis Arena and Olympic Stadium all form part of a bigger sporting zone called Centralis Sporting Precinct, where it will also be the location of the Electrumite Press Office and Athlete's Village (to be converted to state housing after the games)

In Nassau Bay, venues will be split into three zones - the Royal Quay Zone, the Olympic Park Zone, and the Sentinel Lake Zone, which is actually outside of Nassau Bay proper. Rhythmic, artistic, and trampoline gymnastics will all take place in the Royal Quay Arena; handball will take place in the newly constructed Palladium Arena. Those two venues will be across the river from each other, while the Talos Riverbank Arena, which will host field hockey, is five kilometers down the river. Several kilometers away at the Nassau Bay University, fencing (and fencing portions of modern pentathlon) will be held at the Nassau Bay University Gymnasium, while rowing and flat water canoeing will take place at the University's rowing lake, Lake Endeavor. Archery will take place at temporary venues on the Nassau Bay University Green. Equestrian events will take place at temporary venues in Riverside Park, as will the equestrian and running/shooting portion of the modern pentathlon. Triathlon will take the place in and around the park, with swimming taking part in the river.

The Olympic Park will be located east of Royal Quay on a patch of (formerly) undeveloped land on the shoreline of the bay, overlooking the city's downtown area on Westmore Bluff. The Olympic Stadium, where athletics and closing ceremonies will be held, will be located here, as will the new Nassau Bay Shooting Centre. Athletes will be staying at the Olympic Village here, and the Media Centre will be located at the Olympic Park as well.

The 20km and 50km walks and the end portion of the cycling road race will be staged in various courses around the town to account for varying distances. The mountain biking and BMX events will be located at the Sentinel Lake Recreation Area, about 75 km away from Nassau Bay on the Talos River, as will the slalom canoeing events. The golf event will take place at the Sentinel Lake Country Club, which is about 5km away from the recreation area. The marathon event will start out at the - and follow a course along the river into town. Sentinel Lake is about 30 minutes away from Olympic Village by special light rail services.

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Experience
Electrum has hosted five tennis tournaments with complex draws, the 2nd World Hoops Showcase and IBC 15/16 with Mizuyuki, the 22nd Rugby World Cup and World Bowl XXVI. He is also having a test-run with the multi-sport event, the Multiverse Games I.

New Gelderland, as Ceni, Costa de Ouro, and Racao, has hosted four Cenian Open grand slam tournaments, tennis's largest, as well as the Astyrian Series, a complex few months of tennis, the International Tennis Trophy, and several other minor tennis tournaments. Ceni also maintains the tennis rankings (which, at their height, had more than 750 separate entries) and the handball world rankings. In addition, he has hosted the Fencing World Grand Prix, the 13th Handball World Cup, the 63rd Cup of Harmony (with San José Guayabal), and the 2nd Runner Cup, and, by the time of the Olympics, the Port Louis Sevens, the 7th Volleyball World Expo, and the International Athletics Grand Prix, as well as several seasons of domestic football.

Format and Dates
The competition will be held over a 22 day period, with Days 0-1 and the Opening Ceremony being exclusively in Centralis, Electrum, and Days 21-22 and the Closing Ceremony will be exclusively in New Gelderland. (By exclusively we mean both scorination and ICly will occur in that particular city/nation). All extended list events will be played owing to the fact that there are two scorinators. Two demonstration sports will also be played in New Gelderland - events which will appear in next year’s event (Golf and Rugby Sevens). No other demonstration sports will be played. Dates are tentatively the first three weeks of December (November 28-December 19). Each nation will input entries from their side of the draw, and will share these files with the other host. There will be a week in between the close of signups and the first day of competition.

166 Events scored by New Gelderland - including extended list and demonstration events
Archery - 4
Athletics - 47 (1)
Canoeing - 16 (6)
Cycling - Road/BMX/Mountain - 8
Equestrian - 6
Field hockey - 2
Fencing - 10 (2)
Gymnastics - 18 (2)
Handball - 2
Modern pentathlon - 2
Rowing - 14 (2)
Shooting - 15 (3)
Triathlon - 2

Demonstration Events
Rugby Sevens - 2
Golf - 2


171 Events scored by Electrum - including extended list events
Aquatics - 46 (2)
Basketball - 2
Badminton - 5
Boxing - 13 (7)
Cycling - Track - 10
Football - 2
Judo - 14
Sailing - 10 (2)
Table tennis - 4
Taekwondo - 8
Tennis - 5
Volleyball - 4
Weightlifting - 15
Wrestling - 18 (4)


Scorination Details
All events will be scorinated using xkoranate 0.3.3.

New Gelderland will be the one cutting off, at around 2100 GMT each day. Each nation will consider RPs between NG’s cutoffs (to ensure consistency), and will mark each RP independently (Electrum results will come a few hours after NG’s). For events that are scorinated within their nations, they will have the maximum bonus, whereas for athletes that are scored by the other nation, then the host bonus will be equivalent to 75% of the top (non MMAB) bonus in the other, plus MMAB.

MMAB will be utilised, with the RP Bonus being comprised of 50% cumulative score, 30% previous day RP, 20% MMAB. Criteria will not be released by the hosts and will be different from host to host, but more creative RPs will score higher, and quality > quantity; you don't need to write a novella to get a full bonus, but a RP consisting of "My athletes won today and advanced out of their heats. Yay!!!!" will obviously not score very highly.

There will be a limit of 562 entries for one delegation (a theoretical full slate of athletes), 570 if counting the demonstration events with 600 per user (larger than previous years). Unified Teams and Puppet nations all fall under this second rule.

Events will follow the format they were hosted in last year wherever possible (or following the real life format); deviations will be announced. Golf will follow 72 hole stroke play (6 entries, 3 per gender); rugby sevens (a team per nation per gender) will have a group then knockout stages.

In the scenario where one host is unable to scorinate a particular day, then the day will be split into two ICly. For example, if Electrum was unable to scorinate in Day 5, then NG would scorinate their side of the day as usual, and on the next available day (the old Day 6), only Electrum would scorinate to ensure the days are synchronised. The 'RP cutoff' would be extended for another 24 hours (so Day 5 becomes 48 hours long). Both nations would send scorination files in a common place both before and after the scorination, so that one host can take over in emergency situations. If New Gelderland had a sudden emergency where Electrum had to host both sides, then on one day Electrum would score the Electrum half, then on the next day, Electrum would score the New Gelderland half. If there is time, then a nation can scorinate both sides of the draw.

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Ceni/New Gelderland will assume the duties of NSOC President if the bid is selected. When this bid goes to the vote, we will not vote for it (to ensure no advantages with a two-person bid voting twice).

Most of the draws - especially single elimination draws - will be made using Challonge, which uses seeding rules. However, we will try our best to ensure that no more than two individuals/one team from each country are in the same half of the draw, though this cannot be guaranteed.

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If you have any questions, feel free to ask them below. We are always open to changing, editing and refining this bid so that it can be the best it can be.

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Postby Free Republics » Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:10 pm

Bid acknowledged. As the host of the last Summer Olympics (The Kytler Peninsulae) remains CTEd, I am the Acting President of the Olympic Council and I have decided to give all parties interested in putting together a rival bid nearly 2 months to come forward. Therefore, the bidding deadline is now set for Wednesday, October 14th. It may be moved up if a competing bid comes forward and desires a earlier timeframe for the opening of the Games of the X Olympiad.
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Postby Liventia » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:03 pm

I would prefer both potential cohosts to have multi-sport-event hosting experience, which Ceni lacks. Why should I vote for your bid?
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Postby New West Guiana » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:14 pm

Why the choice of not allowing any more demonstration events allowed than the two listed.
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Postby Electrum » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:21 pm

Liventia wrote:I would prefer both potential cohosts to have multi-sport-event hosting experience, which Ceni lacks. Why should I vote for your bid?


I'll allow Ceni to answer this one.

New West Guiana wrote:Why the choice of not allowing any more demonstration events allowed than the two listed.


1. We've included an extended list which means that we already have pretty big delegations coming to the Olympics already

2. They aren't that RPed often, to justify its inclusion (in the Olympics RP Thread) - such as Chess Boxing or Softball

3. Even if we were to accept that they are RPed often, they are still duplicated, eg. Lacrosse/Baseball which were RPed somewhat last edition, are available as their own standalone events (WLC/WBC).

The two demonstration sports being added represent the addition to next year's base list (I note that whilst Golf was played last year, and wasn't RPed heavily, it's status in the 2016 games merits its inclusion)
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Postby Ceni » Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:33 pm

Liventia wrote:I would prefer both potential cohosts to have multi-sport-event hosting experience, which Ceni lacks. Why should I vote for your bid?

May I please direct you to the International Athletics Grand Prix, which includes all athletics events to be contested at the Olympics. I also plan to host the World Racquet Expo, which will contain tennis, table tennis, squash, racquetball, and badminton (strangely this didn't make it into the bid). While these events are in the short-term future, by the time voting for the bid comes around, this issue should be moot.

While both of us are comparatively new RP'ers to the community, we've both RPed heavily in the past few Olympics (me as Transalpine Republic and Costa de Ouro). Additionally, both of us have experience hosting a good portion of the Olympic sports, as well as organizational matters that are at the heart of hosting a successful Olympics, and I believe we have covered the bases - OOCly and ICly - for a dual host format for these Olympics.
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Fri Aug 28, 2015 5:57 pm

I'm asking you the same questions I asked Kry, with some modifications since you answered them.

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:Some questions:

First, the OOC ones.

1. Why no women's rapid fire pistol?
2. Will golf and rugby sevens be held, seeing as they will be Olympic sports next year? Also, seeing as Olympic boxing has changed rulesets to make it more like professional boxing (no headgear, must-ten, etc.) and qualifying competitions in that format are already underway IRL, will we be using the old rules (and scorinator)? If not, where is this new scorinator coming from?
3. Will you be reaching out to Saintland/FFR to see if he can modify his Winter Olympics signup app thingy to work for the Summer Games? It would make things much more easier. And KP's spreadsheet didn't exactly work well last year.

Next, the IC ones.

1. How will the equestrian events be handled for nations with sapient horses? Will the horses have to ride another, non-sapient horse or can they compete on their own? And will they be forced to carry a rider-shaped weight and/or a rider who does nothing? What about in modern pentathlon, where riders typically get their horse mere minutes before the start of the event and have no training riding them? Surely a sapient pony would have an unfair advantage here, unless we ban him from ever doing anything until five minutes before the equestrian starts, which would be hard because it's not the first event. And other reasons.
2. How will medal ceremonies be handled? Will we finally hear the national anthem of Gregoryisgodistan at a Summer Olympics? And speaking of which, Gregoryisgodistani anthem protocol requires all nine verses of the anthem to be played whenever it is performed, whether as a vocal or an instrumental, though this is not binding on foreign entities during events outside Gregoryisgodistan. (On the other hand, even though the Olympic Council is a foreign entity, it would be binding on them should Gregoryisgodistan ever host the Olympics. Which we won't. But that's not the point.) Will you be following the protocol anyway, and similar protocols of other nations if they have them and request it?
3. What language will be used for the Parade of Nations, and what language(s) will be the official one(s) of the Games? If you're using a non-English language, note that Lord Almighty Gregory's name has a no-translation rule, so we would be, for instance, Gregoryesdiosistan, not Gregorioesdiosistan. Will this be respected, if applicable?
4. Given that multiple countries currently have extradition requests pending for Lord Almighty Gregory for crimes against humanity (among other charges), will he be permitted to enter the country and compete in the Games along with his wife Cleffie Martinez, without being charged with a crime or extradited, provided of course that he follows all local laws while within the country?
5. On that note, will any effort be made by the Krytenian Cenian and Electrumite governments to liberate the slaves and/or concubines who compete for Gregoryisgodistan?
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Postby Electrum » Fri Aug 28, 2015 8:50 pm

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:Some questions:

First, the OOC ones.

1. Why no women's rapid fire pistol?
2. Will golf and rugby sevens be held, seeing as they will be Olympic sports next year? Also, seeing as Olympic boxing has changed rulesets to make it more like professional boxing (no headgear, must-ten, etc.) and qualifying competitions in that format are already underway IRL, will we be using the old rules (and scorinator)? If not, where is this new scorinator coming from?
3. Will you be reaching out to Saintland/FFR to see if he can modify his Winter Olympics signup app thingy to work for the Summer Games? It would make things much more easier. And KP's spreadsheet didn't exactly work well last year.


2. We have indicated in our bid that we will use xkoranate 0.3.3, so we would be using the current files, and since Rio hasn't happened yet either, we're not willing to get a new scorinator. That is to say, we will be sticking to the current format.

3. Yes. If our bids go ahead, we will send some details to Saintland/FFR regarding event entries and all of that information (some of the events on the current event list don't even specify how many competitors may enter)

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:Next, the IC ones.

1. How will the equestrian events be handled for nations with sapient horses? Will the horses have to ride another, non-sapient horse or can they compete on their own? And will they be forced to carry a rider-shaped weight and/or a rider who does nothing? What about in modern pentathlon, where riders typically get their horse mere minutes before the start of the event and have no training riding them? Surely a sapient pony would have an unfair advantage here, unless we ban him from ever doing anything until five minutes before the equestrian starts, which would be hard because it's not the first event. And other reasons.
2. How will medal ceremonies be handled? Will we finally hear the national anthem of Gregoryisgodistan at a Summer Olympics? And speaking of which, Gregoryisgodistani anthem protocol requires all nine verses of the anthem to be played whenever it is performed, whether as a vocal or an instrumental, though this is not binding on foreign entities during events outside Gregoryisgodistan. (On the other hand, even though the Olympic Council is a foreign entity, it would be binding on them should Gregoryisgodistan ever host the Olympics. Which we won't. But that's not the point.) Will you be following the protocol anyway, and similar protocols of other nations if they have them and request it?
3. What language will be used for the Parade of Nations, and what language(s) will be the official one(s) of the Games? If you're using a non-English language, note that Lord Almighty Gregory's name has a no-translation rule, so we would be, for instance, Gregoryesdiosistan, not Gregorioesdiosistan. Will this be respected, if applicable?
4. Given that multiple countries currently have extradition requests pending for Lord Almighty Gregory for crimes against humanity (among other charges), will he be permitted to enter the country and compete in the Games along with his wife Cleffie Martinez, without being charged with a crime or extradited, provided of course that he follows all local laws while within the country?
5. On that note, will any effort be made by the Krytenian Cenian and Electrumite governments to liberate the slaves and/or concubines who compete for Gregoryisgodistan?


I will answer from an Electrum perspective.

1. New Gelderland will take this one, since this is where equestrian will be held. But we would expect to see something similar to Krytenia's response, and the precedence set by Equestrian States.

2. All anthems are instrumental. In Electrum, the limit will be five minutes, give or take 10% (so really, 5:30), which should fit the GGS anthem comfortably.

3. English only. Gregory's name will not be changed since that is his name.

4. Well, he entered Electrum with Cleffie Martinez for the MVG and not deported. There is no policy to deport anyone based on another nation's request. And in fact, because of his head of state status, he would be upgraded from the standard accommodations at the Olympic Village to a room in the Orion International Hotel (assuming he's in Electrum playing tennis).

5. Not sure with New Gelderland, but the Electrum government is not currently accepting refugee or asylum seeker applications at the moment
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