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FSSU made Aircraft Soko 23 - MultiRole fighter for SALE

Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:08 pm

Zastava Aircraft Manufacturer Inc || Zastava Defense Inc (Owns 51% shares of the SOKO Aircraft Manufacturer Corporation)

Soko 23 – Advance Multirole Air Superiority fighter

Description

This is the first aircraft ever developed by the FSSU intended to be a NS product made by the FSSU. The SOKO 23 is the first multirole fighter aircraft developed by the Zastava-SOKO Aircraft Manufacturer. It is a 5th generation multirole fighter aircraft developed with the capability of flying at a supersonic speed at high altitude and subsonic speed flying at a low altitude below 2,500 feet. It has capabilities of performing both ground, air attack, electronic warfare and it has the capability of tracking 8 aircrafts at once on it's radar. The Soko 23 also has extremely high agility for subsonic speed enabling the aircraft to alter it's angle and it's flight very quickly for attack while retaining the maneuverability in supersonic flight. Also allows the Aircraft to evade heat seeking missiles by dispersing flares.


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General characteristics• Crew: Two (pilot and weapons system officer)
• Length: 22.69 m (74 ft 5 in)
• Wingspan: 13.46 m (44 ft 2 in)
• Height: 6.15 m (20 ft 2 in)
• Wing area: 61.6 m² (663 ft²)
• Empty weight: 21,820 kg (48,100 lb)
• Loaded weight: 41,000 kg (90,400 lb)
• Max takeoff weight: 46,200 kg (101,900 lb)
• Powerplant: 2× Soloviev D-30F6 afterburning turbofans
o Dry thrust: 93 kN (20,900 lbf) each
o Thrust with afterburner: 152 kN (34,172 lbf) each

Performance
Maximum speed:
• High altitude: Mach 2.93 (3,350 km/h, 1,860 mph)
• Low altitude: Mach 1.2 (1,500 km/h, 930 mph)
• Combat radius: 720 km (450 mi) at Mach 2.35
• Ferry range: 3,300 km (2,050 mi)
• Service ceiling: 20,600 m (67,600 ft)
• Rate of climb: 208 m/s (41,000 ft/min)
• Wing loading: 665 kg/m² (136 lb/ft²)
• Thrust/weight: 0.85
• Maximum g-load: 10 g


Armament

Guns:
2× 20 mm (0.787 in) M61 Vulcan gatling gun, 511 rounds

Air to Air Missiles
6X AIM-7 Sparrow
4X AIM-120 AMRAAM
8X Python-4

Air to Ground Missiles
6× AGM-45 Shrike
5× AGM-88 HARM

Anti Ship Missiles
5× AGM-119 Penguin

Bombs
2X JDAM Precision-guided munition (PGMs)
2X Paveway series of Laser guided bombs
2X Mk 80 series of unguided iron bombs
4X CBU-87 cluster
2X CBU-89 gator mine
2X CBU-97
3X Mk 20 Rockeye II

Avionics
AN/AWG-9 radar

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Quantities: 35,000 developed, 15,000 in production.
Cost: $68,000,000
Production Rights Per 10 NS years (10 RL Days): $600,000,000,000 USD

List of Nations that are covered under the Production Rights of Developing and Producing Soko-23 Multirole Fighters and selling them

1. Grittonia
NS Years: 10
Start Date: 27.7.09
Expires: 6.8.09

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I appologise for the poor quality of the image, i am working on an improved image of the aircraft image posted in this thread
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L3 Communications wrote:((OOC: MS Paint's mirror tool helps a lot, dude. Also, what is that red stuff in the back?))


The engines when there at work and when the aircraft is going at it's high speed in low and high altitude. Where can i get this MS Paint's mirror tool because i am 100% it doesnt come with Windows alone, if there is a link where i can download it if not, can you recommend me to a software that can help me draw better and add better colours to the design.
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Postby Santheres » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:28 pm

OOC: Sorry about the extra OOC, but if you want better drawing programs that are free, I would suggest trying Paint.net orGIMP. I don't use them, myself, as I have Photoshop CS, so I don't know how easy they are to learn, but they're certainly better than Paint.
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OOC: It's all good, thanks for the links, i will download the two softwares and try them out.
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Postby The Master M » Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:11 am

Master M Ministry of Trade
To: FSSU
RE: Soko 23 Multirole Fighter


After review of this aircraft, our military Tech Department has expressed their wish to ‘test’ this aircraft. Therefore, we request 4 of these Soko 23 Multirole Fighters, and will wire you 96,000,000 USD upon receipt of transaction.
If they are satisfied with the results of these tests, we purchase 996 more, as well as production rights if you will allow us to buy them: 23,904,000,000 USD for the aircraft, and 15,000,000,000 USD for the production rights.

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The Master M wrote:Master M Ministry of Trade
To: FSSU
RE: Soko 23 Multirole Fighter


After review of this aircraft, our military Tech Department has expressed their wish to ‘test’ this aircraft. Therefore, we request 4 of these Soko 23 Multirole Fighters, and will wire you 96,000,000 USD upon receipt of transaction.
If they are satisfied with the results of these tests, we purchase 996 more, as well as production rights if you will allow us to buy them: 23,904,000,000 USD for the aircraft, and 15,000,000,000 USD for the production rights.

Richard Jones
Minister of Trade


We are not selling production rights at this time however once we have produced 1,500 of these Soko 23 - Multirole Fighters, we will be selling production rights. Order has been confirmed for the 4 of these Soko 23 - Multirole fighters and we will begin the production of an additional 996 Soko 23's aircrafts. If you are satisfied with the Soko 23 - Multirole fighters, please inform us ASAP and we will transfer the additional 996 Soko 23's aircrafts to your nation.

Delivery of the 4 Soko 23's will take 1 NS week to be delivered.
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Postby Grittonia » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:02 am

The Grittonian Civilians Militia's wishes to purchase 5 of the Soko 23's as we have some budget left.
That would come to a total of 120 million if I calculate right.
Please send them to:
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Grittonia wrote:The Grittonian Civilians Militia's wishes to purchase 5 of the Soko 23's as we have some budget left.
That would come to a total of 120 million if I calculate right.
Please send them to:
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Gritta Rangers Compound
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Order confirmed. It will take 1 NS week for the 5 Soko 23's to be delivered. Wire the money.
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Serbian_Soviet_Union wrote:
Grittonia wrote:The Grittonian Civilians Militia's wishes to purchase 5 of the Soko 23's as we have some budget left.
That would come to a total of 120 million if I calculate right.
Please send them to:
GCM Airstrip
Gritta Rangers Compound
Gritta City
Grittonia


Order confirmed. It will take 1 NS week for the 5 Soko 23's to be delivered. Wire the money.


Would you like it cash, in KG Coke (Grittonia's National Currency) ,via online banking or flew in?
Nah, just kidding.
Money is wiring right now.
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Grittonia wrote:
Serbian_Soviet_Union wrote:
Grittonia wrote:The Grittonian Civilians Militia's wishes to purchase 5 of the Soko 23's as we have some budget left.
That would come to a total of 120 million if I calculate right.
Please send them to:
GCM Airstrip
Gritta Rangers Compound
Gritta City
Grittonia


Order confirmed. It will take 1 NS week for the 5 Soko 23's to be delivered. Wire the money.


Would you like it cash, in KG Coke (Grittonia's National Currency) ,via online banking or flew in?
Nah, just kidding.
Money is wiring right now.


Nice doing business with you. If you are found satisfied, do not hesitate to make another purchass in larger quantities.
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Postby Grittonia » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:14 am

Serbian_Soviet_Union wrote:Nice doing business with you. If you are found satisfied, do not hesitate to make another purchass in larger quantities.


From: Hunk Hankerson, Leader of the Citizens Militia's

Normally we would, nut we only get a few million per year for our expenses as we are not the army but Armed citizens.
But if we het more budget , we will buy more.
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Grittonia wrote:
Serbian_Soviet_Union wrote:Nice doing business with you. If you are found satisfied, do not hesitate to make another purchass in larger quantities.


From: Hunk Hankerson, Leader of the Citizens Militia's

Normally we would, nut we only get a few million per year for our expenses as we are not the army but Armed citizens.
But if we het more budget , we will buy more.


According to NS tracker, your defense budget is $327,152,857,200 billion USD and allows your nation to have an efficient and modernised Military consisting of Army, Navy and Airforce & Air Defense.
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Postby Grittonia » Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:44 am

Serbian_Soviet_Union wrote:
Grittonia wrote:
Serbian_Soviet_Union wrote:Nice doing business with you. If you are found satisfied, do not hesitate to make another purchass in larger quantities.


From: Hunk Hankerson, Leader of the Citizens Militia's

Normally we would, nut we only get a few million per year for our expenses as we are not the army but Armed citizens.
But if we het more budget , we will buy more.


According to NS tracker, your defense budget is $327,152,857,200 billion USD and allows your nation to have an efficient and modernised Military consisting of Army, Navy and Airforce & Air Defense.


Citizens Militia, citizens who form a group to protect the country when it is in war.
Army and the like are modern, but the citizens militia uses their own equipment with some budget from the grittonian goverment for repairs and such.
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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:46 am

Soko 161 - AirSuperiority Stealth Fighter soon to be added.
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Postby The Master M » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:27 pm

Master M Ministry of Trade
To: FSSU
RE: SOKO 23 Multirole Fighter


The scientists in the Tech. Department have passed this aircraft for combat operations. After these rigorous tests, it was forwarded to the Air Force, who also passed it for combat, and were very pleased with the results of their own combat tests.
Therefore, we would like to order not the 996 we had considered, but 1425 units, with adequate amounts of spare parts. The ammunition we can supply ourselves.
We will wire the amount of 34,200,000,000USD upon confirmation of the order.
We thank you for your product, and hope we can continue this business relationship.

Richard Jones
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Postby FreedomStates » Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:45 pm

Its not even inviseble to radar and sonar thats why iam making the F-18 chettah. I got the rights do not take the idea.UNLESS SOLD TO YOU.
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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:23 pm

The Master M wrote:Master M Ministry of Trade
To: FSSU
RE: SOKO 23 Multirole Fighter


The scientists in the Tech. Department have passed this aircraft for combat operations. After these rigorous tests, it was forwarded to the Air Force, who also passed it for combat, and were very pleased with the results of their own combat tests.
Therefore, we would like to order not the 996 we had considered, but 1425 units, with adequate amounts of spare parts. The ammunition we can supply ourselves.
We will wire the amount of 34,200,000,000USD upon confirmation of the order.
We thank you for your product, and hope we can continue this business relationship.

Richard Jones
Minister of Trade



We have managed to develop 3,000 Soko 23 Multirole Fighters. 1,425 units will be delivered and the delivery will take no longer then 2 NS months (2 hours in RL). It is a pleasure doing business with you.
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Military size 5% Active || 2.5% Reserves
Government Type: Capitalist, Conservative, Right Wing, Democratic
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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:56 pm

Announcement from Zastava-SOKO Aircraft manufacturer and Defense

Soko 161 - AirSuperiority Stealth Fighter will begin it's first 5 production of these planes which will be tested on combat operations, air superiority, it's armaments, avionics and all of the features added to the Soko 161, if all tests are passed, we will bring it for the aircraft to be approved and once approved, we will begin the production of 5,000 of these SOKO 161 which will be an advance airsuperiority stealth fighter bringing it to the Next Generation of aircrafts. The program itself costs 100 billion USD for the research, development and feasible testing of the aircraft. The production of the 5,000 S161 Advance Airsuperiority Stealth Fighter will finish producing 5,000 S161 aircrafts within 10 NS years if approved.
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Postby Valipac » Sun Jul 19, 2009 9:17 pm

OOC: I don't care what your "friend" said, forward swept wings and Mach 2.83 do not mix. I'd suggest you do some research on the Su-47 and forward swept wings in general. Due to the angle of the wings, high speeds will shear them right off the body. They can manuever like no other, but they can't cross that stress threshold. For all intents and purposes, you're looking at a max speed of mach 1.6-1.75 at altitude. I'd strongly suggest taking this to the NS Draftroom, as Uiri so kindly suggested earlier.
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Postby Vault 10 » Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:06 pm

OOC:
I'd say it's technically possible to exceed Mach 2 with FSW. X-29 has been at Mach 1.6, but that was a long time ago.
However, this possibility would take the cost far above 24 million. But in some borderline-MT 300 million dollar jet, built out of carbon nanotubes and MMC, I would expect the Mach 2 line crossed. In a regular priced plane, subsonic to 1.8 depending on the materials used, likely up to Mach 1.9 in a modern steel airframe, Mach 1.5 in aluminium (this is a bit cheap for titanium, which would be somewhere in between).

Not Mach 2.83 definitely though.


SSU:
I've looked through your design, and other than this FSW and high speed not matching bit, there's only one other problem. The g-limit is too low, increase it to +10g, maybe even +11g. Generally a normal plane will never need any more than +9g, since the pilots pass out before that anyway, but a FSW is naturally more twitchy, so would be subject to greater peak overloads. As this is a fairly advanced design, I would still raise the price somewhat, close to the 40 million range, if you want to have proper avionics in this.

The NSD is not a be all-end all of design, it's somewhat prone to fads and groupthink, but it can be useful to a novice designer as to learn the basics and avoid the most common mistakes.

Other than the issues above, everything seems right, so it might be that you have run it through a specialist indeed (FSW are an exotic, so one indeed might not be explicitly aware of their issues). I know that out of NS players, Non Aligned States, Capsule Corporation and Pontinia are aerospace engineers or, in case of the latter, studying for the degree. If the friend in question was someone else, could you give me a way to contact him, at least the nation name? I'm working on some aerospace designs now, but I don't have the qualifications, and could use some advice from those who do.
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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:26 am

Thanks, i just edited the mistake that was addressed and it's fixed now. Thanks for the advice and for assisting me correcting the problem. The person that helped me doesn't have a nationstates account, although he does study somethings about the aircrafts, the friend that helped me, i used to be in a ezboard forum, ezboard balkan forum and his nick goes by the name Mig, and his older brother is a trainee pilot somewhere in Croatia and we use to keep in contact through the forums but now it's through MSN along with other few members from the defunct Ezboard Forums.
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Postby Tilsitsin » Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:00 am

The Tilsitsinian Ministry of Defense is interested in testing this fighter as a possible replacement for both our Su-47B and Li-149A multirole fighters.

We are wiring $76 million for two airframes, and also request that support technicians be placed at the disposal of TMoD officers and technical specialists during this evaluation process. If the aircraft is deemed fitting of our Air Force's needs, we anticipate a quantity order of approximately 320 airframes with options for 150-200 more at a later date.
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Postby Serbian_Soviet_Union » Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:54 am

Tilsitsin wrote:The Tilsitsinian Ministry of Defense is interested in testing this fighter as a possible replacement for both our Su-47B and Li-149A multirole fighters.

We are wiring $76 million for two airframes, and also request that support technicians be placed at the disposal of TMoD officers and technical specialists during this evaluation process. If the aircraft is deemed fitting of our Air Force's needs, we anticipate a quantity order of approximately 320 airframes with options for 150-200 more at a later date.


Order confirmed, the two aircrafts will be delivered within 2 NS days along with the arrival of our 5 technical specialists support.
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