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Postby Yanitaria » Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:28 pm

Astholm wrote:I would only agree to it if it helped me make a better storefront:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60963&start=0 is my latest one - Missoula Automotive LLC.


I think that you should take a look at Allanea's storefront, I forget the name. He basically gives a few paragraphs on the advertising campaign or relative uses of his vehicles, and instead of asking for orders, he just asks that people post how many of those vehicles sold in your nation, no need to even confirm the order.
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Postby Nefteyugansk » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:07 pm

Yanitaria wrote:
Astholm wrote:I would only agree to it if it helped me make a better storefront:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60963&start=0 is my latest one - Missoula Automotive LLC.


I think that you should take a look at Allanea's storefront, I forget the name. He basically gives a few paragraphs on the advertising campaign or relative uses of his vehicles, and instead of asking for orders, he just asks that people post how many of those vehicles sold in your nation, no need to even confirm the order.

I, myself, commented it as well.

Nefteyugansk wrote:First I suggest you follow this link and read the information it contains. This should help you set up a basic automobile storefront with some great designs. Also, research your productions; it's best to know what you're selling/creating before you sell/create it. Here's a guide to creating a good product. Also, realize that format is important. You should make sure that your storefront is easy to read and navigate: use headers, sub-headers, etc. Here's a guide to creating a decent, fluent storefront.

Also, the more information on each product and storefront, the better. Don't overdue it with redundant topics, though. I suggest you put at least three or so paragraphs into describing your storefront (remember to use headers and sub-headers). And give the customer a reason to buy your vehicles with bulk discounts and other specials. Don't forget to consider DPRs (domestic production rights) and exportation rights. I hope this helped.
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Postby Denecaep » Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:44 pm

Denecaep wrote:I would appreciate it if the NBBB could help me improve my storefront: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60853

It's really tough for me, because it is a PMT/MT Technology storefront. I'm on a thin line, as you can imagine, because I want to invent unique products, but not go too overboard. I am constantly making my products more superior, or more inferior to fit on that thin line.

Thank you!


I have fixed some of the errors that NBBB has mentioned, but I would still always appreciate more advice!
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Postby Yanitaria » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:17 pm

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Denecaep wrote:I would appreciate it if the NBBB could help me improve my storefront: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60853

It's really tough for me, because it is a PMT/MT Technology storefront. I'm on a thin line, as you can imagine, because I want to invent unique products, but not go too overboard. I am constantly making my products more superior, or more inferior to fit on that thin line.

Thank you!


I have fixed some of the errors that NBBB has mentioned, but I would still always appreciate more advice!


I suggest avoiding superlatives. You have a very secure safe, but more than likely someone else thinks their safe is more secure. Really a minor knitpick compared to the next one.

PMT uses projected technologies that are actually possible. Exo-suits would qualify, holographic copies of a ship to fool your enemies aren't. That'd be far-PMT or FT, which respectively are "Anything you want to RP existing," and "anything you want to RP existing IN SPACEEEEE"
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Postby Denecaep » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:25 pm

Yanitaria wrote:
Denecaep wrote:
Denecaep wrote:I would appreciate it if the NBBB could help me improve my storefront: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60853

It's really tough for me, because it is a PMT/MT Technology storefront. I'm on a thin line, as you can imagine, because I want to invent unique products, but not go too overboard. I am constantly making my products more superior, or more inferior to fit on that thin line.

Thank you!


I have fixed some of the errors that NBBB has mentioned, but I would still always appreciate more advice!


I suggest avoiding superlatives. You have a very secure safe, but more than likely someone else thinks their safe is more secure. Really a minor knitpick compared to the next one.

PMT uses projected technologies that are actually possible. Exo-suits would qualify, holographic copies of a ship to fool your enemies aren't. That'd be far-PMT or FT, which respectively are "Anything you want to RP existing," and "anything you want to RP existing IN SPACEEEEE"


I'll remove superlatives, but about the holocopy; maybe I need to make it more clear, but it is actually less of a hologram, and more a mirror projection (which there is research going into today, which I read about and gave me this idea.)

Are you sure it is too far off? I am reluctant to simply delete it after forming that description.
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Postby Lamoni » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:55 pm

I'll remove superlatives, but about the holocopy; maybe I need to make it more clear, but it is actually less of a hologram, and more a mirror projection (which there is research going into today, which I read about and gave me this idea.)

Are you sure it is too far off? I am reluctant to simply delete it after forming that description.


Yup, it'd still be PMT, at the earliest. MT is stuff that is being used RIGHT NOW, or possibly within five years, at the latest.
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Postby Denecaep » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:02 pm

Lamoni wrote:
I'll remove superlatives, but about the holocopy; maybe I need to make it more clear, but it is actually less of a hologram, and more a mirror projection (which there is research going into today, which I read about and gave me this idea.)

Are you sure it is too far off? I am reluctant to simply delete it after forming that description.


Yup, it'd still be PMT, at the earliest. MT is stuff that is being used RIGHT NOW, or possibly within five years, at the latest.


(So it's okay then? I was going for PMT with that.)
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Postby Falkasia » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:23 pm

Tergnitz wrote:I was wondering if I could get a critique of my storefront (Voss Defence Inc. - Link in Sig) by the NSBBB?


We'll get looking at it.
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Postby Falkasia » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:25 pm

McCon Corporation wrote:i would like to join.


My apologies, but your request to join has been denied. I haven't seen you on NS before, and therefore lack an understanding of how well your critiques and designs may be. If you can procure some link to a storefront or design of your creation, then by all means I'll look at it. Until then however, you'll have to wait.
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Postby Lamoni » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:01 am

Denecaep wrote:
Lamoni wrote:
I'll remove superlatives, but about the holocopy; maybe I need to make it more clear, but it is actually less of a hologram, and more a mirror projection (which there is research going into today, which I read about and gave me this idea.)

Are you sure it is too far off? I am reluctant to simply delete it after forming that description.


Yup, it'd still be PMT, at the earliest. MT is stuff that is being used RIGHT NOW, or possibly within five years, at the latest.


(So it's okay then? I was going for PMT with that.)


If PMT was what you were going for (and you can produce evidence that they are working on the holocopy technology), then yes.
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Postby Astholm » Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:25 pm

Nefteyugansk wrote:
Astholm wrote:I would only agree to it if it helped me make a better storefront:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60963&start=0 is my latest one - Missoula Automotive LLC.

First I suggest you follow this link and read the information it contains. This should help you set up a basic automobile storefront with some great designs. Also, research your productions; it's best to know what you're selling/creating before you sell/create it. Here's a guide to creating a good product. Also, realize that format is important. You should make sure that your storefront is easy to read and navigate: use headers, sub-headers, etc. Here's a guide to creating a decent, fluent storefront.

Also, the more information on each product and storefront, the better. Don't overdue it with redundant topics, though. I suggest you put at least three or so paragraphs into describing your storefront (remember to use headers and sub-headers). And give the customer a reason to buy your vehicles with bulk discounts and other specials. Don't forget to consider DPRs (domestic production rights) and exportation rights. I hope this helped.


Thanks. I have done my research, and read the link too. Hopefully the format should look OK, but I welcome any criticism of the Missoula storefront, to make it better-written.
So far I am trying to get it up to the same standards of Forza and VLT's. Naming my manufacturer after a town in Montana, United States of America - is that a bad thing? As far as I'm aware, the name literally means "frost, ice" - which the town of Missoula's name means.

Does the first vehicle in my storefront look well-written enough? I admit I'm using backups from my site blythborough62.co.tv prior to its server crash before I moved host, so apologies if it isn't perfect!

Ask away, I'll be happy to take any criticism about it into account.
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Postby McCon Corporation » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:31 pm

Falkasia wrote:
McCon Corporation wrote:i would like to join.


My apologies, but your request to join has been denied. I haven't seen you on NS before, and therefore lack an understanding of how well your critiques and designs may be. If you can procure some link to a storefront or design of your creation, then by all means I'll look at it. Until then however, you'll have to wait.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=45520

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Postby Mikoyan-Guryevich » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:41 pm

Astholm wrote:
Nefteyugansk wrote:
Astholm wrote:I would only agree to it if it helped me make a better storefront:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60963&start=0 is my latest one - Missoula Automotive LLC.

First I suggest you follow this link and read the information it contains. This should help you set up a basic automobile storefront with some great designs. Also, research your productions; it's best to know what you're selling/creating before you sell/create it. Here's a guide to creating a good product. Also, realize that format is important. You should make sure that your storefront is easy to read and navigate: use headers, sub-headers, etc. Here's a guide to creating a decent, fluent storefront.

Also, the more information on each product and storefront, the better. Don't overdue it with redundant topics, though. I suggest you put at least three or so paragraphs into describing your storefront (remember to use headers and sub-headers). And give the customer a reason to buy your vehicles with bulk discounts and other specials. Don't forget to consider DPRs (domestic production rights) and exportation rights. I hope this helped.


Thanks. I have done my research, and read the link too. Hopefully the format should look OK, but I welcome any criticism of the Missoula storefront, to make it better-written.
So far I am trying to get it up to the same standards of Forza and VLT's. Naming my manufacturer after a town in Montana, United States of America - is that a bad thing? As far as I'm aware, the name literally means "frost, ice" - which the town of Missoula's name means.

Does the first vehicle in my storefront look well-written enough? I admit I'm using backups from my site blythborough62.co.tv prior to its server crash before I moved host, so apologies if it isn't perfect!

Ask away, I'll be happy to take any criticism about it into account.


Its a good storefront, but it is far to similar to the dozen other storefronts you have made over the past year. I can tell exactly which storefronts are yours based on the product and the formatting. Now, while that isn't exactly a bad thing, it kind of defeats the purpose of starting fresh. Someone once said the height of stupidity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different result. Not that Im calling you stupid, it's just a saying to ponder on.

Regardless of quality, I think the NS Auto market is on the way out. I haven't heard from VLT or Forza in several months, nor any other car company aside from yours which is leading me to think that nobody wants in on it, which will make it very hard for your new store to sell.
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Postby Falkasia » Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:46 pm

McCon Corporation wrote:
Falkasia wrote:
McCon Corporation wrote:i would like to join.


My apologies, but your request to join has been denied. I haven't seen you on NS before, and therefore lack an understanding of how well your critiques and designs may be. If you can procure some link to a storefront or design of your creation, then by all means I'll look at it. Until then however, you'll have to wait.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=45520



My apologies, but your request to join has been denied. Based off your current storefront, and after looking through the statistics, there are several major errors and a lack of fundamental NS design requirements. I, along with all of us on here, would love to help you in making your storefront of better quality, but as of right now, it doesn't warrant you becoming a member of the NSBBB.

Once again, my apologies.
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Postby Mikoyan-Guryevich » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:57 pm

People need to learn that this, like the GLOMC, isn't just an organization you can apply for and expect entry into and being a member isn't just a badge of honour.
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Postby Astholm » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:31 pm

Mikoyan-Guryevich wrote:Its a good storefront, but it is far to similar to the dozen other storefronts you have made over the past year. I can tell exactly which storefronts are yours based on the product and the formatting. Now, while that isn't exactly a bad thing, it kind of defeats the purpose of starting fresh. Someone once said the height of stupidity is repeating the same thing and expecting a different result. Not that Im calling you stupid, it's just a saying to ponder on.

Regardless of quality, I think the NS Auto market is on the way out. I haven't heard from VLT or Forza in several months, nor any other car company aside from yours which is leading me to think that nobody wants in on it, which will make it very hard for your new store to sell.


That's exactly my problem - how to make it a different style from my other ones. We need to try and work on getting the automotive storefronts popular again.
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Postby Wolohanistan » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:57 pm

I made an application a while back and I'm not sure anyone saw it, I don't think I've been around long enough to join though!

Anyway, I would like you to have a look at my Storefront Warmonger Armouries and tell me what you think. I'm always striving to improve my store, and I assure you the PMG weapons from my first, failed store are being phased out as I have fully embraced lineart! Every comment is appreciated.
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Postby Machina Haruspex » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:32 pm

There have been recent attempts in the auto market area, although most of them are not as indepth as VLT or Forza were/are.
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Postby Aescentia » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:50 pm

I wasn't invited, but this seems like an excellent initiative to take part in, and, therefore, I'd like to be a part of it.

If my storefront (Spectrum Networks, viewtopic.php?f=6&t=60580) is not up to snuff, I'd like advice on how to improve it, then I'd like to join once it's up to standards.
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Postby Falkasia » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:37 pm

As both Wolohanistan and Aescentia have already guessed, you both have been denied for the time being. Your storefronts require work ,and are not quite there yet to being upper quality that we're looking for. As you sugggested, if you stick around and work to improve them, I don't see anything that's stopping you down the road.


Also, another rule of thumb. It seems another common thing with these "low quality" storefronts are polls. Not that knowing what your customer wants is a bad thing, nor does one make your storefront any less "quality," but it does detract from the overall feel of a traditional storefront. When you've got a 10-option poll starting out a thread, it tends to shove the potential customer away. Personally, I want to buy something from a storefront, and not to read through some huge marketing poll before purchasing.
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Postby Aescentia » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:48 pm

Interesting. I'll have to work towards making SN better.
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Postby Questers » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:08 pm

Wolohistan: first thing I suggest is not to use spoilers and to make a more visible and clear layout. That would go a very long way in my view.

AescentiaL I don't understand why anyone would want to run a TV storefront, but the sort of storefront you want to run is not for me to decide. Personally I don't see any problem with it.
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Postby The Black Plains » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:14 pm

I like the idea and it's nice to have a place to turn with questions about storefronts (As i have many) so sure I'd love to join.

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Postby Falkasia » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:51 pm

It appears the purpose of this thread is lost to many newcomers. Those who request to join are the ones who are qualified to give out information. That being said, new players are not required to join to recieve feedback or critiques on their storefronts, and will likely be denied thereof if they DO ask to join.

Meaning, if you're seeking advice, just say you're seeking advice so I don't have to deny you when you ask to join.
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Postby Jungastia » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:26 am

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