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Callaban
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Nuclear Sub Cash Club (RFB): Sell Me Nuclear Subs!

Postby Callaban » Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:35 pm

Sell me nuclear submarines!

Missiles not wanted.

I have a number of business and private buyers interested in nuclear submarines.

These buyers may require modifications.

For example:

Underwater hotel / Cruise
Preppers' ultimate mobile get away
Deep sea tourism
I am cool because I own an f'ing nuclear submarine I've only used twice
I will rent it out to film companies
I like men in uniform in confined spaces
Just because I can
Screw children out of inheritance money
Actual research

I don't know that much about nuclear submarines! Make me care!

Is it a generation III or generation IV or is it something else?

Price will have an impact on demand... But I have at least ten firm offers and six to ten pending on price.

It is understood that a flat rate price may be set for the submarine and additional (competitive) charges will be added for personalized modification.


Place your bids below or by confidential Telegram @ Callaban (http://www.nationstates.net/nation=callaban) Attention: Nuclear Sub Cash Club.


New Only! Second Hand Subs Won't Do!

Sixteen Jones, Phd.
CEP
Nuclear Sub Cash Club

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Postby New Edom » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:30 pm

To: Sixteen Jones, Phd.
CEP
Nuclear Sub Cash Club
From: Randall Fabian, Director-General of Arcanum Armaments
Subject: Submarine Bid

Dear Sixteen Jones,

I would like to propose the Cheeseekau Class Nuclear Powered Ballistic Missile Submarine for our bid for your contract. As it is a nuclear submarine, we have to open talks with you to discuss DPRs which would then be cleared by our board of directors. Without further ado: here is the subject of our bid. I look forward to hearing back from you.


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Cheeseekau Class Nuclear Powered Ballistic Missile Submarine (SSBN)


Type: Nuclear Powered Ballistic Missile Submarine (SSBN)
Displacement Surfaced: 17,400 tonnes
Displacement submerged: 19,200 tonnes
Length: 170m
Beam: 16m
Propulsion: 1x SSBN10R Pressurized Water Reactor producing 65,000hp, 1x 7 bladed Pumpjet
Speed surfaced: 17 knots (Sprint) 12 knots (Cruise)
Speed submerged:[/b[ 30+ Knots (Sprint) 23+ knots (cruise), 16 knots silent
[b]Range:
Limited to stores, ~ 30 years between refuelings
Test depth: 660m
Max endurance: 90 days
Hull construction: Singled Hulled HY-130 Steel, further subdivided into 4 watertight compartments (Forward, Control, Missile, Engineering). Outer hull maintains a 120mm thick rubber anechoic tile coating.
Crew compliment: 107 Crew
Armament: 8x 660mm Torpedo Tubes (8 + 40 Reloads), 24x Vertical Launch Tubes (3.4m diameter)
Countermeasures: 160 127mm Noisemakers, Advanced Electromagnetic Signature Reduction System
Sensors
PAC11 Passive/Active Sonar Array
PAC11 Towed Array
PAC11 Passive Mast Mounted Search Radar
PAC11 Active Mast Mounted Search Radar
PSC11 Telescoping Photonic Masts
Cost:2.8 billion USD

The Cheeseekau Class Nuclear Powered Ballistic Missile Submarine is yet another Export venture by the Philadelphia Shipbuilding Corporation, building on the tremendous export success of the Tecumseh Class Diesel-Electric Attack Submarine and the Tenskwatawa Class Nuclear Fast Attack Submarine, both of which received hundreds of foreign orders. The Cheeseekau Class was based off of the Ohio Classes hull, with tremendous improvements in terms of stealth systems from classes such as the American Seawolf and the Tenskwatawa Class, both of which are Nuclear Powered Fast Attack Submarines, and the Williamson Class Nuclear Missile Submarine, which is the sole ballistic missile submarine in use with the Pennsylvanian Navy today.

Armament & Electronics

The Cheeseekau Class’s main armament is its eight 660mm torpedo tubes, capable of firing weapons ranging from Torpedos, like the Mk48 ADCAP, to Anti-shipping missiles such as the UGM-84 Harpoon and the UGM-109 Tomahawk, as well as mines. Alongside of the submarines eight torpedo tubes, there are twenty-four Vertical Launch Tubes along the back of the submarine, just behind the sail. Each of these tubes are 3.4m in diameter, designed to take Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles such as the American Trident II, or the Pennsylvanian designed UGM-210 “Barracuda” and UGM-240 “Barracuda II”.

The electronics on the submarine are largely the same as found some Pennsylvanian Navy submarines, such as the Williamson Class Nuclear Missile Submarine (SSMN). This includes the same Photonic Mast and the same Sonar Systems, and a similar, but somewhat more compact version of the Radar mast, with a shorter effective range, accounting for the significant difference in size between the Williamson Class and the Tecumseh Class.

The vessel does not utilize a conventional periscope for the Captain or other officers to use in order to identify a vessel. It instead utilizes a Photonic Mast to transmit a digital image of the target from the Mast to a series of High Definition monitors around the control room of the submarine.

A photonics mast (or optronic mast) is a sensor similar in concept to a submarine periscope, except that it doesn't require a periscope tube thus freeing design space during construction and limiting risks of water leakage in the event of damage. A photonics mast replaces the mechanical; line-of-sight viewing system with digital equipment, similar to a digital camera array, and it has fewer locational and dimensional constraints than a traditional periscope.

Unlike a periscope, it need not be located directly above its user, and it requires only a small pressure hull penetration for cabling. This allows the photonics mast to be contained entirely within the sail of the submarine and means the control room need not be placed directly below the sail.

A photonics mast operates by rising above the water similarly to a telescoping car antenna and provides information through an array of sensors, such as high definition low-light and thermo graphic cameras. Images and information can be sent to display panels for analysis. The photonics mast can also support the navigation, electronic warfare, and communications functions of a conventional optical periscope mast.

The submarine utilizes a bow mounted Active and Passive Sonar system as well as a passive cable towed array system, located on the starboard side of the submarine amidships. The Towed arrays cable is almost a kilometer long, allowing it to get clear of noise from the submarine, and to detect other submarines or even surface ships from long distances. The systems are sensitive enough to pick up sounds more than 500km away, though, at these distances, accuracy is anything but good.

Propulsion & Hull

The propulsion of the Cheeseekau Class is in its SSBN10R Pressurized Water Reactor, based off of the S9G of the American Virginia Class, and, in some extent, the S6W of the American Seawolf class attack submarines. As a result, the Reactor is capable of pushing the submarine at speeds up to 16 knots while remaining silent, in large part to not only the reactor, but also to the hull design, and the thick coat of anechoic rubber on the outer hull, which, by itself, is capable of reducing the noise output by the submarine anywhere from 4% to 14%. Coupled with the other stealth precautions taken in the design of the submarine, this results in the submarine being quieter at 16 knots than some previous Nuclear Fast Attack Submarines were tied up to a pier.

The submarines hull is constructed primarily out of HY-130 steel, contrary to many designs, which used a lot of Titanium in their design, like the Tecumseh Class Diesel Electric Attack Submarine. HY-130 steel is a very high strength material, originally destined for use in the Seawolf Class Nuclear Fast Attack Submarine. However, the Seawolf ended up instead being constructed of HY-100 steel, instead of HY-130.

The classes hull is further divided into 4 compartments, Forward, which comprises the Submarines Torpedo Room and Bunking, Control, which is made up of the Sonar Room and Control Room, Missile, which contains the Vertical Launch Tubes and related systems, and Engineering, which is made up of everything related to the Nuclear Reactor.


Communication Systems

The Cheeseekau Classhas a multitude of communications equipment available on it, ranging from Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) and Very Low Frequency (VLF), to satellite equipment for communications through regular Military Communications Satellites.

Electromagnetic waves in the ELF frequency range (3–3000 Hz) can travel through the oceans and reach submarines anywhere. Building an ELF transmitter is a formidable challenge, as they have to work at incredibly long wavelengths: The US Navy's system operated at 76 hertz, the Soviet/Russian system at 82 hertz. The latter corresponds to a wavelength of 3658.5 kilometers. Obviously, the usual half-wavelength dipole antenna cannot be constructed, as it would spread across a large country.

Instead, one has to find an area with very low ground conductivity (a requirement opposite to usual radio transmitter sites), bury two huge electrodes in the ground at different sites, and then feed lines to them from a station in the middle, in the form of wires on poles. Although other separations are possible, 60 kilometers is the distance used by the ZEVS transmitter located near Murmansk. As the ground conductivity is poor, the current between the electrodes will penetrate deep into the Earth, essentially using a large part of the globe as antenna. The antenna length in Republic, Michigan was approximately 52 kilometers (32 miles). The antenna is very inefficient. To drive it, a dedicated power plant seems to be required, although the power emitted as radiation is only a few watts. Its transmission can be received virtually anywhere.

ELF Transmission

The Extremely low frequency transmission employed was a 64-ary Reed-Solomon, meaning that the alphabet had 64 symbols, each represented by a very long pseudo-random sequence. The entire transmission was then encrypted. The advantages of such a technique are that by correlating multiple transmissions, a message could be completed even with very low signal-to-noise ratios, and because only a very few pseudo-random sequences represented actual message characters, there was a very high probability that if a message was successfully received, it was a valid message (anti-spoofing).
The communication link is one-way. No submarine could have its own ELF transmitter on board, due to the sheer size of such a device. Attempts to design a transmitter which can be immersed in the sea or flown on an aircraft were soon abandoned.

Due to the limited bandwidth, information can only be transmitted very slowly, on the order of a few characters per minute. Thus it is reasonable to assume that the actual messages were mostly generic instructions or requests to establish a different form of two-way communication with the relevant authority.

VLF Transmission

VLF radio waves (3–30 kHz) can penetrate seawater to a depth of approximately 20 meters. Hence a submarine at shallow depth can use these frequencies. A vessel more deeply submerged might use a buoy on a long cable equipped with an antenna. The buoy rises to a few meters below the surface, and may be small enough to remain undetected by enemy sonar / radar.

Due to the low frequency, a VLF broadcast aerial needs to be quite big. In fact, broadcasting sites are usually a few square kilometers (or miles). This of course prevents such aerials being installed on submarines. Submarines only carry a VLF reception aerial, and do not respond on such low frequencies. So a ground-to-submarine VLF broadcast is always a one way broadcast, originating on the ground and received aboard the boat. If two-way communication is needed, the boat must surface and communicate on other, higher, frequencies (such as UHF or VHF).
This band allows for a roughly 300 bit/s transmission - or about 35 8-bit ASCII characters per second (or the equivalence of a sentence every two seconds) - a total of 450 words per minute. Simply shifting to 7-bit ASCII results in a baud rate (characters per second) increase of 14 percent. An additional shift to a 6-bit or a 5-bit code (such as the baudot code) would result in speeds of more than 600 and 700 words per minute. Moreover, as naval jargon is in most cases both very strict and very specific, it is likely to be repetitive and predictable. So a word like "OFFICER" might be broadcast as "OFF." or "OFF1" or simply "OFFI" for example. A word like "COMMANDER" might be spelled as "CMD" and in a similar fashion pairs of words such as "HIGH COMMAND" might be spelled as "HCMD". This kind of specialized naval spelling leads to a further significant reduction of bandwidth usage, allowing for an overall increase in data transmission rates.


Export

The Cheeseekau Class is only available to nations that are approved by the Pennsylvanian Federal Government. Any denials may be appealed, but usually are final.

Single Unit: $2.8 billion
Domestic Production Rights: $4.2 trillion
Contract: $2.7bn per unit
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Postby Hittanryan » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:57 am

To: Sixteen Jones
From: Alice Andrews, Vice President of Sales, Applied Materials
Subject: Submarine Bid

Applied Materials would like to propose the sale of domestic production rights to two possible designs for your purposes. The first, which is closest to your original request, is the Sai-class submarine, a line of nuclear-powered cruise missile submarines. Like any nuclear submarine, they can stay submerged for extended periods without surfacing and feature specialized systems to communicate even while submerged, and are designed primarily for stealth. The Adiran Navy still fields a number of this vessel class, so you can be assured of its performance and reliability.

However, the Sai-class is maintenance intensive and contains a number of specialized systems geared specifically towards evading detection by naval forces. If submarine communication and evading passive sonar are unnecessary, the Explorer-class nuclear research submarine offers the same extended deep-sea capabilities for a fraction of the maintenance and per unit cost. It also has a more spacious interior to accommodate a variety of scientific equipment or other cargo, and would be considerably easier to repurpose. The Sai-class, on the other hand, was designed with functionality as a missile sub strictly in mind.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,
Alice Andrews
VP, Sales


Single Unit: $1.8 billion
Domestic Production Rights: $2.2 trillion
Contract: $1.5 billion

Single Unit: $900 million
Domestic Production Rights: $250 billion
Contract: $750 million
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Postby Callaban » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:06 pm

To: Randall Fabian, Director-General of Arcanum Armaments

From: Sixteen Jones, Phd.
CEP of Nuclear Sub Cash Club

Subject: Submarine Bid

Thank you for your bid, we will be accepting bids until October 7th, 2014.

At that time the bids will be analysed by our team. You may get information or clarification requests through that process.

All bidders will get private bid responses before public announcements.

Thank you for your interest,

Sixteen Jones, Phd.
CEP of Nuclear Sub Cash Club

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Postby Callaban » Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:30 am

To: Alice Andrews, Vice President of Sales, Applied Materials

From: Sixteen Jones, Phd.
CEP of Nuclear Sub Cash Club

Subject: Submarine Bid

Thank you for your bid, we will be accepting bids until October 7th, 2014.

At that time the bids will be analysed by our team. You may get information or clarification requests through that process.

All bidders will get private bid responses before public announcements.

Thank you for your interest,

Sixteen Jones, Phd.
CEP of Nuclear Sub Cash Club

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Nuclear Sub Cash Club: accepting bids until October 7th

Postby Callaban » Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:47 am

Accepting bids until October 7th, 2014

Sixteen Jones, Phd.
CEP of Nuclear Sub Cash Club

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You Might Have Won!

Postby Callaban » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:43 pm

To: Alice Andrews, Vice President of Sales, Applied Materials
From: Sixteen Jones, Phd., CEP of Nuclear Sub Cash Club

Subject: Submarine Bid

Congratulations you have tentatively won our Request For Bids!

10 x Explorer Class Submarines

Let's discuss cost reductions due to bulk order and, no missiles, and other non-esential equipment.

Sixteen Jones, Phd.
CEP of Nuclear Sub Cash Club

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Postby Hittanryan » Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:09 am

To: Sixteen Jones Phd., CEP of Nuclear Sub Cash Club
From: Alice Andrews, Vice President of Sales, Applied Materials
Subject: Submarine Bid

Your organization has made an excellent choice in Applied Materials. We hope that our relationship going forward will be long and productive.

After a few preliminary analyses the Sales department has a few recommendations to offer in terms of pricing. If ten vessels are the sum total of your organization's needs, then the expense of a domestic production license is not likely justified. Please understand that the cost of a license must take into account not only the manufacturing costs but also the accumulated intellectual property that goes into the entire design, including all development costs. Therefore the price of a production license is not negotiable to the extent that it would be worth purchasing for ten vessels.

As stated in our initial bid, the typical per-unit cost of an Explorer-class is $900 million. Ten units at this price would come to $9 billion plus associated fees for each vessel. However, if your organization were to sign a production contract for ten vessels, many of these fees would be waived and each unit would be discounted. Since your initial request did not specify the exact number of vessels to be purchased, we tentatively set our stated contract price at $750 million per unit. Total costs for ten units would come to $7.5 billion dollars, saving your organization over $1.5 billion.

That said, ten vessels is not an insubstantial order, and we would be willing to reduce the price further. If a letter of credit from a reputable financial institution attesting to your organization's finances can be presented, we would reduce the per-unit price in a production contract to $700 million, saving your organization an additional $500 million on your order.

Applied Materials welcomes your business, and we hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely,
Alice Andrews
VP, Sales
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Postby Callaban » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:00 pm

To: Alice Andrews, Vice President of Sales, Applied Materials
From: Sixteen Jones, Phd., CEP of Nuclear Sub Cash Club

Subject: Submarine Bid

All our finances are in place, please begin order fullfilment.

Sixteen Jones, Phd.
CEP of Nuclear Sub Cash Club

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