The Invasion of Muslim Jihadist <OOC>

[Laneige]

The Thread

This is the out of character thread. All out of characters comment are to be made here and so as discussions in the progression of the story. So as that OOC comments does not clog up the IC thread.

The in character threads,

The Provocative thread

The Invasion thread



The Opening Posts

[Muslim -Jihadist]

ok welp what do you guys want to happen.

[Laneige]

Well considering all circumstances and logic that Nationstates uses, we'd actually planned a coalition invasion of your country. Since that President Vincent had declined the ultimatum and all.

So is that ok?

And on another note thou, is that the less population a nation has, the less technological advances the nation is. Because its still young I suppose. A guild line we all use. Is that ok with you?

[Muslim -Jihadist]

I agree, but i want you to know i plan on hiding in caves and using guerrilla tactics on any occupying force.

[Laneige]

I agree, but i want you to know i plan on hiding in caves and using guerrilla tactics on any occupying force.

Sure you could. And where is Wille zer-marcht now? He is supposed to join us. Anyway, here is what I intended to do, to invade and dissolve your current government and reinstated a more liberal and democratic one.

Then leave as the government stabilize. We're not gonna stay in your nation for very long.

[Wille-zur-macht]

Ok, well, you obviously want to do a sort of "War on Terror" thing, with you being the terrorists. I'm afraid that my nation has always been a fuedal German monarchy, with no democracy, in the modern day. The Catholic church is the only form of social security (through charity) and is still the only source of education for the peasantry. As such, the infiltration of Middle-Eastern Muslims into my nation would be all but impossible. Also, being a fuedal nation, each peasant is tied to his lord and land, making movement around it difficult, so even if you could infiltrate my citizens, you would still face the problems of how to get travel papers, etc.

Also, your nation is too small to possess the orbital missiles you claimed to have in your previous post, and your military would likely be about 600,000 men, literally tops. That would be 10% of your population, which is ridiculously high, but since you are a crazy terrorist state, maybe just believable.

Basically, this war will only happen through our huge alliance invading you. In the same way that if Iraq had declared war on America, nothing would happen until America invaded Iraq. So I think you can still do the car bombs, snipings, etc, but you must accept that your conventional military will be destroyed, and you have no real way of striking at my nation. I don't know about my allies, but since I have no muslim population, and an incredibly oppressive system, it wouldn't work...

Basically, Imagine the Afgan war. You're the Afghans. It's the only realistic way of this war happening really.

[Muslim -Jihadist]

I will then topple any puppet government and retake control and retract my previouse program of persecution of non muslims.

[Laneige]

I will then topple any puppet government and retake control and retract my previouse program of persecution of non muslims.

By the way, are you sure you want to work with the name Muslim Jihadist for your entire career in NS?

[Wille-zur-macht]

Well, shall we get on with it then? Just pretend all that stuff about exploding pensioners didn't happen, and start with an invasion? And I agree, it does limit you a bit!

[Muslim -Jihadist]

yes, its a fine name.

[Laneige]

yes, its a fine name.

I meant the name by itself, like Wille zer-marcht said. It does limit you to only being a Muslim nation, and being Jihad at the same time. Perhaps another one? So as that you can progress in NS further?

[Muslim -Jihadist]

yes, its a fine name.

I meant the name by itself, like Wille zer-marcht said. It does limit you to only being a Muslim nation, and being Jihad at the same time. Perhaps another one? So as that you can progress in NS further?

I plan to be like iran and other fanatic islamic states.

and yes i agree to start the war.

[Wille-zur-macht]

Ok, but since the others are off-line, I'll only post once, then leave it, so they can keep up...

[Muslim -Jihadist]

ok

[Wille-zur-macht]

One thing before I write, is Islamic Jihadist an island/does it have a coast, or is it land locked?

[Laneige]

ok

So, we're going to war with the small nation then. Hang on, while I make a communique post to start a coalition force with the others. We should post our ORBAT here as well.

[Muslim -Jihadist]

whats orbat stand for.

[Laneige]

whats orbat stand for.

ORBAT means Order of Battle. It is the number of troops, tanks, ships, aircraft, and etc that you're sending out to battle. Be reminded that your total military force should not be more than 5% of your population. But in our case, you may have up to 10%. We're fine with it but others might not. So take note aye?

Anyway, do you want to make an Invasion thread?

[Wille-zur-macht]

whats orbat stand for.

ORBAT means Order of Battle. It is the number of troops, tanks, ships, aircraft, and etc that you're sending out to battle. Be reminded that your total military force should not be more than 5% of your population. But in our case, you may have up to 10%. We're fine with it but others might not. So take note aye?

Anyway, do you want to make an Invasion thread?

Shall I, seeing as how I was the first to threaten an invasion?

[Muslim -Jihadist]

I agree to your terms. I have to go to the store. I'll be gone for an hour or two. So if you could make the invasion thread and set stuff up it'd help things along. i'll admit im new and this time around i need alittle guidance.

[Wille-zur-macht]

I agree to your terms. I have to go to the store. I'll be gone for an hour or two. So if you could make the invasion thread and set stuff up it'd help things along. i'll admit im new and this time around i need alittle guidance.

Ok, I'll start one, but then I'll probably be off into the real world as well, as lets all take this slowly, so people in RL don't get left behind. I'll tg New Pyrrhus, tell him about this thread as well.

[Wille-zur-macht]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=94666 Here's the invasion. I'm going to be using an unneccessarily large number of men, due to my army's poor tactic meaning we rely on numbers.

Note to Islamic Jihadists!

If you were RPing with a normal, modern army, you wouldn't send as many men as I'm going to, but I'm a huge country (by RL standards), so I think I can afford to take epic casualties. As such, I will send, this....

Orbat
2 Million Infanty (includes support, medics, cooks, logistics, etc. About 750,000 combat troops)
10,000 cavalry (obviously useless in modern war, but I like horse charges, ok? haha)
5,000 mobile artillery (Missile Launchers, mortars mounted on tank chassis, guns that can be towed, basically any and all mobile artillery)
8 UAV drones, (each carries 2 rockets)
10,000 APCs (to aid in the transport of the troops)
200 Fighter-Bombers (For air support)
112 Transport Helicopters (for supply drops)
Other sundry vehicles (Ambulances, lorries, jeeps etcetera.)

Possibly overkill, but we can't take any chances. Well, it is overkill, as the US only used 500,000 in invading Iraq, which was much larger than Islamic Jihad, but then, they weren't using cavalry charges were they?

[Laneige]

-snip-

You're sending your men in swarms?

[Wille-zur-macht]

-snip-

You're sending your men in swarms?

Essentially. I RP as a large, incredibly badly trained and led army. I try and take reasonable casualties, which neccessitates sending millions. For example, my cavalry charge will be, as it would undoubtedly be in real life, a complete disaster. But it'll be good to write about, and a nice change from all the technology that abounds in modern warfare. Don't worry, I'm not going to pretend that these tactics work, they don't, which is why I need so many men.

You may ask why I use tactics I know won't work. Because, IC, I don't know they don't work, I think that they're the only proper way to fight a war, like a zur-Machten gentleman.

[New Pyrrhus]

ORBAT
1 Army Group, so that's 1,215,000 men - deployed in 5 Field armies

700,000 combat troops (650,000 regulars, 50,000 Storm Troopers)
20,000 Tanks
10,000 APCs
6000 artillery pieces
200 fighter bombers
40 helicopter gunships
120 support helicopters
16 high altitude bombers