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by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:26 am
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:29 am
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:34 am
New Korongo wrote:I think we should expand into defending non-member nations from attacks over slavery, while doing so encouraging them to join the IASEN.
Unilisia wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:We are not a charity. either they join us, or they die, it isn't that hard a process to join.
If we have a combined coalition of soldiers in their nation, they can join us, or we remove their government.
You obviously don't think like I do, which isn't a bad thing, but I do look for the best advantages in all situations. If we came to the aid of a slave-trading government, saved it from occupation by a neighboring power, and then kept soldiers inside in sufficient numbers, a coup et tat would be easily accomplished with swift co-ordination and efficiency, provided they refuse to join this Association of ours.
Just an example, of course. A different strategy would be needed depending on the situation we are faced with.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Onyenu » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:55 am
by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:02 am
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Unilisia » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:43 am
Des-Bal wrote:Yet our resources no matter how great could not last the endless war that would come from being involved in every conflict. There's also the issue of cost-benefit, one must question the loyalty of someone who has not willingly joined IASEN or has done so only for an instance of military backing.
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:35 am
Unilisia wrote:Des-Bal wrote:Yet our resources no matter how great could not last the endless war that would come from being involved in every conflict. There's also the issue of cost-benefit, one must question the loyalty of someone who has not willingly joined IASEN or has done so only for an instance of military backing.
I never said to join every conflict, The few we could easily win and profit from, with the proper chance, we should take advantage from. Am I saying join the friggin Oblivion War ? No. Am I saying fight some tiny country out of another one ? Yes.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:08 am
Onyenu wrote:My stance would be to help. Comeon ASE, untold losses? Tese aren't conscripts were talking about here. And if a conflict we enter does drag on too long wasting our resources and men, we can vote to pull out. Non-members aren't THAT important.
by Southern Patriots » Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:35 pm
Panzerjaeger wrote:Why would Cleopatra have cornrows? She is from Egypt not the goddamn Bronx.
by St George of England » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:22 pm
by Unilisia » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:45 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Onyenu wrote:My stance would be to help. Comeon ASE, untold losses? Tese aren't conscripts were talking about here. And if a conflict we enter does drag on too long wasting our resources and men, we can vote to pull out. Non-members aren't THAT important.
Still, even light losses for my nation are horrific. Me losing 500 soldiers is like you losing 5,000 soldiers, due to the amount I spend on each soldier. Also, pulling out isn't as simple as you make it out to be, unless it is well organized and meticulous the organized retreat could turn into a full fledged route.
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:51 pm
Unilisia wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Still, even light losses for my nation are horrific. Me losing 500 soldiers is like you losing 5,000 soldiers, due to the amount I spend on each soldier. Also, pulling out isn't as simple as you make it out to be, unless it is well organized and meticulous the organized retreat could turn into a full fledged route.
If you waste that much money on your shoulders, they shouldn't die
by Unilisia » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:54 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Unilisia wrote:
If you waste that much money on your shoulders, they shouldn't die
So you do not expect to lose 5,000 soldiers in a war? You really are optimistic. Also, I would like to reiterate the point that all they need to do to get our support is to join the damn alliance. If them not joining the alliance is more importance than them preserving slavery, and/or their independence, why do we even want them in the alliance. Also, 90% of the countries with slavery deserve to be conquered, they are poorly lead, and often, downright shit holes.
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:57 pm
Unilisia wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:So you do not expect to lose 5,000 soldiers in a war? You really are optimistic. Also, I would like to reiterate the point that all they need to do to get our support is to join the damn alliance. If them not joining the alliance is more importance than them preserving slavery, and/or their independence, why do we even want them in the alliance. Also, 90% of the countries with slavery deserve to be conquered, they are poorly lead, and often, downright shit holes.
I haven't lost 5,000 soldiers in a war in 400 years, and I don't expect too unless I am go against a worthy adversary.
And, I partially agree. Shit-holes need to be plugged, but the concept must live on.
by Onyenu » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:57 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Onyenu wrote:My stance would be to help. Comeon ASE, untold losses? Tese aren't conscripts were talking about here. And if a conflict we enter does drag on too long wasting our resources and men, we can vote to pull out. Non-members aren't THAT important.
Still, even light losses for my nation are horrific. Me losing 500 soldiers is like you losing 5,000 soldiers, due to the amount I spend on each soldier. Also, pulling out isn't as simple as you make it out to be, unless it is well organized and meticulous the organized retreat could turn into a full fledged route.
by Unilisia » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:00 pm
Onyenu wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Still, even light losses for my nation are horrific. Me losing 500 soldiers is like you losing 5,000 soldiers, due to the amount I spend on each soldier. Also, pulling out isn't as simple as you make it out to be, unless it is well organized and meticulous the organized retreat could turn into a full fledged route.
My men arent the POSes your making them out to be. Yes, you probably spend some more on them then I do mine but that doesnt make them all that much better. 500 to 5,000? Thats like you comparing your special forces to my conscripts. Give me a break, Im not a communist clone freak who thinks half his pop can be his army and still give them the bestestar training evar. I learned how to manage and form my army from you so bleh.
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:03 pm
Onyenu wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Still, even light losses for my nation are horrific. Me losing 500 soldiers is like you losing 5,000 soldiers, due to the amount I spend on each soldier. Also, pulling out isn't as simple as you make it out to be, unless it is well organized and meticulous the organized retreat could turn into a full fledged route.
My men arent the POSes your making them out to be. Yes, you probably spend some more on them then I do mine but that doesnt make them all that much better. 500 to 5,000? Thats like you comparing your special forces to my conscripts. Give me a break, Im not a communist clone freak who thinks half his pop can be his army and still give them the bestestar training evar. I learned how to manage and form my army from you so bleh.
by Unilisia » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:14 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Onyenu wrote:
My men arent the POSes your making them out to be. Yes, you probably spend some more on them then I do mine but that doesnt make them all that much better. 500 to 5,000? Thats like you comparing your special forces to my conscripts. Give me a break, Im not a communist clone freak who thinks half his pop can be his army and still give them the bestestar training evar. I learned how to manage and form my army from you so bleh.
I spend around $1 million on each person in the military per year, basic training is 30 weeks, and has a 70% failure rate, my army is probably the most over trained and over equipped army in NS that isn't total wank. 500 of my guys against 5,000 of yours guys would probably be a win for you, but my guys cost about 10 times as much to train and equip as most soldiers, so the investment lost in me losing 500 soldiers is similar to the investment most nations would lose from losing 5,000 soldiers.
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:16 pm
Unilisia wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:I spend around $1 million on each person in the military per year, basic training is 30 weeks, and has a 70% failure rate, my army is probably the most over trained and over equipped army in NS that isn't total wank. 500 of my guys against 5,000 of yours guys would probably be a win for you, but my guys cost about 10 times as much to train and equip as most soldiers, so the investment lost in me losing 500 soldiers is similar to the investment most nations would lose from losing 5,000 soldiers.
If they are that well trained, and you give them a bunch of fancy crap, they shouldn't die in the first place.
by Unilisia » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:27 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Unilisia wrote:
If they are that well trained, and you give them a bunch of fancy crap, they shouldn't die in the first place.
Soldiers die, it happens. I may kill tens of thousands of enemy soldiers for each hundred men lost, but I suffer losses because I am not a godmodder.
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
by The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:30 pm
Unilisia wrote:The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Soldiers die, it happens. I may kill tens of thousands of enemy soldiers for each hundred men lost, but I suffer losses because I am not a godmodder.
Yes, people die, but if all of your soldiers are practically special forces, then they shouldn't die in anything larger than 100 in a small-scale invasion.
by Briarcliffe Falls » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:40 pm
by Unilisia » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:46 pm
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:Unilisia wrote:
Yes, people die, but if all of your soldiers are practically special forces, then they shouldn't die in anything larger than 100 in a small-scale invasion.
Who said it is a small scale invasion? This is NS, where a small scale invasion involves a couple hundred thousand soldiers, in such an incident I would be outnumbered by a lot, and no matter how good soldiers are, they can be overwhelmed, especially by NS armies that have no fear.
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
by Des-Bal » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:57 pm
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
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