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Queer State of Kadahl Established

Postby Kadahl » Fri May 28, 2010 2:48 am

Declaration of Queer National Sovereignty

In our victory against occupation and national suppression we declare the establishment of the Queer State of Kadahl. We claim sovereignty over The Kadahl - its territorial waters, minerals and natural resources; to be managed for the common welfare of all citizens. The Queer State of Kadahl exists to fulfil the right of all peoples to establish a national homeland, to provide a refuge for Queers and to promote and defend our international and inalienable Human Rights. The Queer State of Kadhl is a democratic and socialist republic, governed by the principles and articles of the Constitution.

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Postby Kadahl » Fri May 28, 2010 3:14 am

To our International Friends and Co-Nationalists

The people of Kadahl are proud of their liberation against the occupation and national suppression that until recently they suffered under. Our liberation has come at a high cost measured in the currency of human lives. It has also retarded our economic base and limited our ability to feed, clothe and care for our own. Peace-time rationing is still required to ensure the distribution of essential goods.

The people of Kadahl urgently require food aid, farm equipment, medical supplies and medical equipment. The nation requires extensive investment in infrastructure and industry; the government is seeking international aid – money, technical experts or equipment. Kadahl produces surpluses of coal, copper, gold, iron, lead, silver and timber – with assistance we can also trade natural gas in exchange. We can also trade small arms and artillery, paper, clothes and textiles.

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Postby Myack » Fri May 28, 2010 4:11 am

The Proud nation of Myack Will send you Oil, Food,Water, and Tech Equipment For Money and Artillery.

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Postby Kadahl » Fri May 28, 2010 4:54 am

Myack wrote:The Proud nation of Myack Will send you Oil, Food,Water, and Tech Equipment For Money and Artillery.

-Chancellor Phillip


Dear Chancellor Phillip

Our government will happily barter artillery in exchange for technical equipment, food and oil of approximate value. We currently have no need for water imports. We are seeking foreign aid or direct exchange as our foreign reserves are required to purchase major capital equipment for the benefit of the nation.

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Postby New Immortallia » Fri May 28, 2010 5:14 am

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Dear Comrade Brothers and Sisters of the Queer State of Kadahl, the People's of Immortallia are filled with jubilation at the news of your self liberation and emancipation from the Imperialist lapdogs of Phosee! Our comrades sympathise heavily with your sturggle, and recognise that it is far from over. So in the spirit of sollidarity and internationalism the Government of Immortallia, at the behest of our people's will (expressed through a recent national referendum on the issue) would like to offer economic aid to the new soveriegn nation of Kadahl.

Our aid offer, if accepted, would consist of the following general terms:

Approx. $150bn USD investment in Kadahlan industry, agriculture and Government schemes to be allocated as the national Government of Kadahl sees fit with only minimal oversight from Immortallia.

An exchange program established for skilled workers and technicians, generating and guaranteeing a steady inward flow of Immortallian skilled labourers into Kadahl on a shift system to provide local industries and skilled activities with vital training and establishing assistance.

Preferencial trade agreements established so that the Immortallian Government may purchase goods from establishing Kadahlan industries at 200% of their normal market value for the forseeable future, or at very least until the national economy is stable, growing and able to survive independant of preferencial investments by the Immortallian Government. (Figures set aside for this trade investment not included in $150bn USD initial raw investment package.)

Furthermore in addition to our economic package we would like to offer the nation of Kadahl our hand in defence and the inclusion in our nuclear weapon defence zone. Though this would require a minimum of one silo and detection post being established in Kadahlan territory on land rented to the Immortallian Government. However this is an entirely optional clause.

In exchange for the Government of Immortallia's efforts to aid Kadahl we would merely ask a small recompense, basically: Assurance from the national Government of Kadahl that, if not already in existance, specific legislation should be tabled for national vote concerning a full charter of rights for their working citizens. Openly enumerating the right to form and join trade unions, engage in organised union political activity, receive a full and adequate pension at the end of their working lives, not suffer inhuman conditions at work, not suffer to the laid off work, and most importantly of all have a participatory system of democratic governance within the workplace, giving the workers the control of operation and production.

The amount of inward investment into Kadahl by the Immortallian Government would be upwardly negotiable, provided evidence that increased reserves of capital were essential to the realisation of our goals is produced. And naturally we would happily consider any further amendments, adjustments, considerations or additions to our economic package suggested by the national Government of Kadahl, in the spirit of the hastened acheivement of our universal goals.


Lastly the Immortallian Government would like to applaud our Comrades in Kadahl, not only for their brave and glorious struggle for freedom, but for their astute economics in the face of crisis, principally the implimentation of War Socialism, which we believe shows their plucky national genius! However War Socialism is hardly ideal, and our economic package has the principal aim of it's immolation, and the creation of an abundance economy, rising reborn from the ashes of War Socialism like a glorious pheonix signifying a new dawn of prosperity for the people of Kadahl!

Yours Sincerely, Comrade Koba, Premier of Immortallia, (undersigned)


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P.S. We can only profusely apologise for our tardy response to the People of Kadahl, our national referendum on the topic dragged on, as they often do!

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Postby Shuffleboarderz » Fri May 28, 2010 5:47 am

OOC: not to be offensive, but how will the country grow if everyone is gay?
Just askin

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Postby Joyous Zeltros » Fri May 28, 2010 5:54 am

OOC: Shuffleboarderz, read their factbook. Without posting in it. That should clear things up. Also, learn to work out that het sex isn't the only way of producing a baby these days.

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Joyous Zeltros commends Kadahl on its efforts to become independent. We are willing to trade both food supplies and farming equipment. Furthermore, we are also willing to include medical supplies and a number of interim personnel to fill the gaps until your own medical personnel have absorbed training from them.
Unless you object to nonhuman beings in your nation, in which case we would find it easier merely to trade in inanimate supplies.

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Postby Shuffleboarderz » Fri May 28, 2010 6:02 am

oops extremely sorry

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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri May 28, 2010 6:18 am

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While the Kingdom can respect your desire for independence and self-determination, our position has been and aways will be to not assist any one-dimensional state where only a single ideology is permitted, in this case, the professed socialist leanings of your new government.

We shall not hinder your development as a nation, however, we shall not assist in your decent into the socialist morass either. It has been our experience that a great many nations which start out with democratic socialist leanings frequently do become more extreme, becoming democratic in name only and with leaders whose only desire is for power rather than for the welfare of their people. The same can be said about any extreme ideology.

Hopefully, your nation may well be one of the very few who have avoided this.

Anyhow, best of luck to you, and your on your own.

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Postby Kadahl » Fri May 28, 2010 11:50 am

Dear Comrade Brothers and Sisters of the Queer State of Kadahl, the People's of Immortallia are filled with jubilation at the news of your self liberation and emancipation from the Imperialist lapdogs of Phosee! Our comrades sympathise heavily with your sturggle, and recognise that it is far from over. So in the spirit of sollidarity and internationalism the Government of Immortallia, at the behest of our people's will (expressed through a recent national referendum on the issue) would like to offer economic aid to the new soveriegn nation of Kadahl.

Our aid offer, if accepted, would consist of the following general terms:

Approx. $150bn USD investment in Kadahlan industry, agriculture and Government schemes to be allocated as the national Government of Kadahl sees fit with only minimal oversight from Immortallia.

An exchange program established for skilled workers and technicians, generating and guaranteeing a steady inward flow of Immortallian skilled labourers into Kadahl on a shift system to provide local industries and skilled activities with vital training and establishing assistance.

Preferencial trade agreements established so that the Immortallian Government may purchase goods from establishing Kadahlan industries at 200% of their normal market value for the forseeable future, or at very least until the national economy is stable, growing and able to survive independant of preferencial investments by the Immortallian Government. (Figures set aside for this trade investment not included in $150bn USD initial raw investment package.)

Furthermore in addition to our economic package we would like to offer the nation of Kadahl our hand in defence and the inclusion in our nuclear weapon defence zone. Though this would require a minimum of one silo and detection post being established in Kadahlan territory on land rented to the Immortallian Government. However this is an entirely optional clause.

In exchange for the Government of Immortallia's efforts to aid Kadahl we would merely ask a small recompense, basically: Assurance from the national Government of Kadahl that, if not already in existance, specific legislation should be tabled for national vote concerning a full charter of rights for their working citizens. Openly enumerating the right to form and join trade unions, engage in organised union political activity, receive a full and adequate pension at the end of their working lives, not suffer inhuman conditions at work, not suffer to the laid off work, and most importantly of all have a participatory system of democratic governance within the workplace, giving the workers the control of operation and production.

The amount of inward investment into Kadahl by the Immortallian Government would be upwardly negotiable, provided evidence that increased reserves of capital were essential to the realisation of our goals is produced. And naturally we would happily consider any further amendments, adjustments, considerations or additions to our economic package suggested by the national Government of Kadahl, in the spirit of the hastened acheivement of our universal goals.


Lastly the Immortallian Government would like to applaud our Comrades in Kadahl, not only for their brave and glorious struggle for freedom, but for their astute economics in the face of crisis, principally the implimentation of War Socialism, which we believe shows their plucky national genius! However War Socialism is hardly ideal, and our economic package has the principal aim of it's immolation, and the creation of an abundance economy, rising reborn from the ashes of War Socialism like a glorious pheonix signifying a new dawn of prosperity for the people of Kadahl!

Yours Sincerely, Comrade Koba, Premier of Immortallia, (undersigned)

The people of Kadahl express the warmest gratitude for the generosity shown by the peoples of Immortallia in our time of need.

The government of Kadahl accepts to offer of (approximately) $150bn USD on the understanding that this is a humanitarian gift from the people of Immortallia and that repayment, control over assets or derived goods or profits will not be expected by the government of Immortallia.

Further, this government accepts the offer to provide technical staff for the education of our workers in required fields. We invite the Immortallian government to consider allowing Kadahl workers and technicians to study and experience work-place training in the operation of certain Immoratallian industries so that our returning citizens can operate our own plant facilities as they come online. We also accept the offer to establish ongoing trade between Immortallia and Kadahl, including the opportunity for mutual economic investment.

At this time the government must decline the offer to host Immortallian nuclear weapons. We counter-offer the opportunity to establish a joint-strategic operations base (nuclear detection facility).

In regards to the policy requests of the Immortallian government all policy points are already covered by our own Constitutional Law – under our economic system workers are liable to be ‘laid off’ when a profit-based institution (collectively or privately operated) is unable to generate the minimum wage amongst the staff, when a business discontinues or if staff positions become redundant. However severance pay, entitlements and state unemployment benefits exist’ negating the issue of ‘suffering’ from their circumstances.

While we thank the people of Immortallia for their demonstration of magnanimity in the face of our suffering and continued privation we assert our rights to pursue independent economic, political and social policy, although the government is considerate of the need to consult with the representatives of Immortallia where our interests overlap.

Sincerely yours, Councillor for Foreign Affairs
Adamo Wies
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Postby Kadahl » Fri May 28, 2010 12:08 pm

Shuffleboarderz wrote:OOC: not to be offensive, but how will the country grow if everyone is gay?
Just askin


OOC: actually that's a quite reasonable question to ask. I have four answers for you:

1] Not every country has a growing population in RL or NS and in reality most of us maintain a static population for the simplicity of role play - so there's no inherent 'need' to expand the population. However a catastrophic population crash could be reasonably anticipated within a generation so -
2] The most realistic scenario is that the population will be supported by ongoing immigration - Kadahl is an international refuge for persecuted (and migrating) Queers and there would literally be billions of potential citizens on NS Earth. Even on RL Earth it can be reaosnably extrapolated that there are at least 136,000,000 homosexuals (that's 2% of the global population) [see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographi ... rientation].
3] Current reproductive technologies make it possible for even an all-male society to have and raise children (as long as women's wombs are available somewhere), on NS Earth it would not be unreasonable to assume this would be a (difficult but) entirely possible way to maintain the population - even exclusing immigration or mass adoption
4] Since Kadahl includes both men(XY) and women(XX) as well as straights and bisexuals - it would be again difficult (given their demographic imbalance) but entirely possible to mantain the population the 'old fashioned way' given sufficent incentive/coercion

I assume in RP that all four of these elements; population migration (immigration/refugees/adoption), reproductive technologies and XX-XY intercourse (which no doubt would include the occassional experimenting or dedicated homosexual) would be sufficient to generate a stable, if not expansionary population.

thanks for the oppurtunity to explain :D
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The ruivan empire will happily donate 890 billion ruivs to your noble nation!
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Postby Kadahl » Fri May 28, 2010 12:30 pm

Joyous Zeltros wrote:Joyous Zeltros commends Kadahl on its efforts to become independent. We are willing to trade both food supplies and farming equipment. Furthermore, we are also willing to include medical supplies and a number of interim personnel to fill the gaps until your own medical personnel have absorbed training from them.
Unless you object to nonhuman beings in your nation, in which case we would find it easier merely to trade in inanimate supplies.

-Queen Liasa of Zeltros


To Comrade Liasa

The people of Kadahl accept the offer of your government to supply food, farming equipment and medical supplies on condition that your government is able to satisfactorly answer our survey. We are unable to assertain the status of the government in Zeltros and we are not in such a desperate situation that we will fumble with our principles.

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Please briefly describe the structure of the government in your country

Please briefly describe the general working conditions in your country

Please briefly describe the status of Queers - including intersex and transgendered people - in your country

What is your Government's Stances on...
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Postby Freelasio » Fri May 28, 2010 12:34 pm

Though we have a neutral overall stance on being gay...(in rl im a hetero fighting FOR gays so dont critisize me)...Freelasio wonders...what was this nation you have succeded from?
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Postby Myack » Fri May 28, 2010 12:37 pm

Alright Myack Will send Oil For Artillery

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Postby Freelasio » Fri May 28, 2010 12:38 pm

I ask once more...what was thou former nation?
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Postby Satirius » Fri May 28, 2010 12:44 pm

The Administrative Domain of Satirius congratulates Kadahl on its establishment, and is willing to play venture capitalist for what could become a unique player in the global economy.
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Postby Kalakda » Fri May 28, 2010 12:52 pm

While we applaud the establishment of your nation and the new found freedom of your people, the Republic has declared an officially neutral stance towards your nation until you prove yourself otherwise. We will supply limited medical and other aid as well as send a team of doctors and nurses to tend to your sick and wounded, a group of engineers to help improve the infrastructure of the nation, as well as a group of military instructors to help in the training of a possible Defense Force to help your nation keep its freedom and independence.
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Postby Civic AI » Fri May 28, 2010 1:02 pm

TO: Kadahl National Assembly, National Liberation Council, and all related parties
FROM: Commercial Alliance Civic Artificial Intelligence for Undercity 001 (CA-CAI-001)

We are not currently in a position to help you with your economic difficulties, being that we are currently rebuilding after over thirty years of internal conflict, however we would like to offer you a different kind of aid. In the time since my activation the inhabitants of the Undercity have developed hundreds of theories concerning almost every conceivable field of science, but we currently lack the technology and resources to test them. Several of our scientific theories have to do with reproduction, which is likely an imminent concern for your nation.

I find it excessively unlikely that your population can be supported by immigration. While there is minor oppression against homosexuals in many countries, it is rarely so intolerable as to provoke the victims to give up their jobs, homes, friends, and families to move to an entirely different country which may or may not speak the same language and start over. In places where the oppression is sufficiently intolerable, emigration is often discouraged or prohibited by the government.

We'd like to start a joint scientific endeavor with your country to find a way to produce new human beings without an act of sexual intercourse between two existing humans. Realistically, this will likely involve a system for widespread artificial insemination, but with your permission we'd like to experiment with test tube babies as well.

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The Cossack Republic of Solyhniya hereby offers official recognition to Kadahl. We honour and respect your devotion to Socialism, justice and the equality of all men.

We invite the state of Kadahl to open an embassy in Solyhniya and to follow this communiqué with a telegram in order to secure strong relations, fair commerce and multilateral cooperation between our nations.

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Postby Kadahl » Fri May 28, 2010 1:15 pm

Freelasio wrote:Though we have a neutral overall stance on being gay...(in rl im a hetero fighting FOR gays so dont critisize me)...Freelasio wonders...what was this nation you have succeded from?


If you check my factbook (see signature) you'll see that Kadahl was never part of another nation - although the territory was exploited for natural resoucres and then as a place of detention by a country called Phosee. Although this isn't canon Phosee probably still exists and the 'victory' in Kadahl has more to do with the deteriorating situation in Phosee as it edges towards implosion.
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Postby Kirav » Fri May 28, 2010 1:20 pm

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The Kiravian Empire bears no ill-will agains the Queer State of Kadahl, but the ideological propositions that your state has been founded upon do make the Imperial government quite doubtful as whether yours will be a successful endeavour, and has ruled not to provide any sort of material assistance nor special diplomatic backing.

Nonetheless, the Empire welcomes Kadahl to open diplomatic channels of communication to the Kiravian Empire, and reminds it that Kiravian ports are open for trade.

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Postby Kadahl » Fri May 28, 2010 1:58 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
While the Kingdom can respect your desire for independence and self-determination, our position has been and aways will be to not assist any one-dimensional state where only a single ideology is permitted, in this case, the professed socialist leanings of your new government.

We shall not hinder your development as a nation, however, we shall not assist in your decent into the socialist morass either. It has been our experience that a great many nations which start out with democratic socialist leanings frequently do become more extreme, becoming democratic in name only and with leaders whose only desire is for power rather than for the welfare of their people. The same can be said about any extreme ideology.

Hopefully, your nation may well be one of the very few who have avoided this.

Anyhow, best of luck to you, and your on your own.

Lord Simpson
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To Foreign Minister Simpson

The government of Kadahl most strongly rejects the unfounded and outrageous assertions that Kadahl is a "one-dimensional state" which permits only a "single ideology". Such condescending rhetoric insults our people, their suffering and the sacrifice our sisters paid in the struggle for national self-determination. When Phosee soldiers were using arbitrary execution and rape to terrorise our people and our partisans were being tortured why was the voice of your wise and far-sighted government silent? The Queer State of Kadahl has been established by democratic consent to provide a national homeland and a voice in international affairs to promote and defend the Human Rights of all Queers. These are hardly trivial or single issues. Our people are proud of their economic and political achievements and how they have decided to organise the economy should not be punished because the government of Grays Harbour is concerned about where our choices might take us. If the government of Grays Harbour is so concerned about promoting democracy then why don't your lead by example and extend to us support in our obvious hour of need.

The inconsideration and ignorance of your government is a testament to the rottenness that corrupts your policies. It is a fact that we have fought and died for the right to pursue plural political representation - a fight we literally waged against the tyranny and brutality of a so-called "socialist" single-party state. The comments of your government have deeply insulted and outraged the peoples of Kadahl and dishonours the memory of our heroic war dead who struggled for our national liberation. The only extreme ideology in evidence is the one that frees a government to pass condemnation and lecture with the right hand and bounds the left hand to withhold humanitarian aid in the name of what ifs and the shortcomings of other nations.

The people of the Queer State of Kadhal most violently reject the bourgeois condescension your government offends us with.

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Postby Cyrupe » Fri May 28, 2010 2:04 pm

The Nation of Cyrupe recognizes Kadahl as a nation and wishes to open a trade route with them.
In support of your founding we will gladly trade you food rations and medical supplies in return for future payments of timber, iron and copper.

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Postby Kadahl » Fri May 28, 2010 2:17 pm

Kalakda wrote:While we applaud the establishment of your nation and the new found freedom of your people, the Republic has declared an officially neutral stance towards your nation until you prove yourself otherwise. We will supply limited medical and other aid as well as send a team of doctors and nurses to tend to your sick and wounded, a group of engineers to help improve the infrastructure of the nation, as well as a group of military instructors to help in the training of a possible Defense Force to help your nation keep its freedom and independence.


To the government of Kalakda

The people of Kadahl accept the offer of your government on condition that your government is able to satisfactorly answer our survey. We are unable to assertain the status of the government in Kalakda and we are not in such a desperate situation that we will fumble with our principles this early in the revolution.

Government Policy:
Please briefly describe the structure of the government in your country

Please briefly describe the general working conditions in your country

Please briefly describe the status of Queers - including intersex and transgendered people - in your country

What is your Government's Stances on...
Communism:
Capitalism:
Socialism:
The Bourgeoisie:
The Proletariat:
Fascism:
Nazism:
Individual Anarchism (Right Wing):
Collective Anarchism (Left Wing):
Democracy:
Monarchy:
Dictatorship:
Republic:
Empire:
Technological developments:
Militarism:
Education and Science:
World Assembly:
Kadahl:


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