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[Spindle]

And the stupidly large warship with more weapons than it knows what to do with and a small Task Force in its hangar bays is just providing the settlers with transport, I presume? After all, it's not as if there are better uses for the damned thing, nor are there ships in your fleet which are either more suited to the role of transport or even escort than the thing with enough mass to severely disrupt the tides of whichever planet it's in low orbit over.[/sarcasm]

Well someone's salty.

1 escort ship for dozens of transport. What's not to love

Off the top of my head?

First off, is there any point in an escort in this scenario? Your FTL is capable of the kind of pinpoint jumps into a gravity well which would be necessary for the Requiem to be visible from the planet's surface: your transports are, by default, starting and ending under the protective blanket of your orbital defences. Of course, you could be bringing the ship in on a permanent basis: that's covered in the OP and I'll get to that little tidbit later.

Secondly: the purpose of an escort is to defend the things their escorting, not to destroy the attackers outright. The distinction is slight, but let me ask what kind of formation your transports are in. In almost all of them, the Requiem will be incapable of defending all of the transports at any given time. That's why you use Cruisers, or possibly Battlecruisers, as the largest thing in an escort: so that you've got enough hulls to protect every aspect with PD, shields and the ships themselves.

Third: proportionality. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but the Amber class feels like a Capital ship in every sense of the word: optimised towards controlling the space around it. It is meant to fight ships of an equal calibre and it is designed towards that goal, not to fight the kinds of forces which would be raiding against a group of defenceless transports. Hell, that doesn't even take the political considerations of that move into account: if people see that kind of ship running escort duty they have every right to assume either incompetence or an incredibly unsubtle attempt at intimidation (which suggests further incompetence somewhere in the political area). Neither one is good for you.

Fourth: my previous statements about the Requiem's mass and distance. It's all very nice to have an escort for your new colonists, but not when the colony's been swamped by a tidal wave which was caused by your ship's mass and the effect it has on the water nearby. At the very least, you could have recognised that and put in a snippet about making sure that the tidal forces it caused didn't have too many adverse effects on anyone nearby.

Fifth: vulnerability. As I've pointed out, the Amber class is probably optimised towards killing other Capital ships - that's what they're for. Which means that they're invariably worse at killing off the smaller things, an assessment which is reinforced by the fact that you quite happily keep a multitude of smaller ship classes, as opposed to one or two. And that means that it makes no sense to send them anywhere, even on a probable milk run, without a screen massing at least half of the ship itself. Or, if not, at least recognising that it would be a massive embarrassment for an Amber-class to have been damaged, disabled or destroyed by a Frigate lying cold, or a high-c attack.

Sixth: execution of concept. I have seen some people pull massive ships off well, giving the impression of power, majesty and inexplicable grace combined with a thorough understanding of the logistical, military and political realities of such ships. I have a great enjoyment for the posts which contain such ships: it stirs my sense of wonder while still managing to seem organic: as if there was a place in the story waiting for them. Unfortunately, you have not managed to capture the depth of such ships and it feels much more obtrusive and unsubtle than it could be. There was no real reason for the Requiem to show up and so its arrival feels forced and more reactionary than anything else.

Seventh: disregard for the OP. To quote:

No calling reinforcements from home. Your colony is a big boy, independent(-ish) and strong.

Despite this, you decided to call in your ship. Alright, but at that point you were either assuming that the OP had forgotten their own rules or were willing to let it slip. Whichever it was, you were wrong and so they asked you directly to remove it. Your response was to insult their intellectual ability and ignore their request - unless you intend to argue that this:

Well using the amazing powers of reading, you would know that they are bringing in settlers.

isn't implying that they can't read.

In short: you've insulted the OP directly and indirectly, you've ignored all logic and common sense in order to justify having your supership escort your transports and you've written it without even trying to use it to inspire the natural awe it should: you've just plonked it into the space and assumed that everyone else is going to fill in the poetry for you. Quite frankly, anything above three or four kilometres makes me naturally suspicious: far too many people use them to cover up for an inability to think and write innovatively or well, along with antimatter and dark energy. It's not encouraging that the post was as minimalistic as possible and, quite frankly, nothing in that post gives me any confidence in your skills, nor does anything in the OOC make me feel any better about your mindset.

[Eodor]

Well someone's salty.

1 escort ship for dozens of transport. What's not to love

Off the top of my head?

First off, is there any point in an escort in this scenario? Your FTL is capable of the kind of pinpoint jumps into a gravity well which would be necessary for the Requiem to be visible from the planet's surface: your transports are, by default, starting and ending under the protective blanket of your orbital defences. Of course, you could be bringing the ship in on a permanent basis: that's covered in the OP and I'll get to that little tidbit later.

Secondly: the purpose of an escort is to defend the things their escorting, not to destroy the attackers outright. The distinction is slight, but let me ask what kind of formation your transports are in. In almost all of them, the Requiem will be incapable of defending all of the transports at any given time. That's why you use Cruisers, or possibly Battlecruisers, as the largest thing in an escort: so that you've got enough hulls to protect every aspect with PD, shields and the ships themselves.

Third: proportionality. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but the Amber class feels like a Capital ship in every sense of the word: optimised towards controlling the space around it. It is meant to fight ships of an equal calibre and it is designed towards that goal, not to fight the kinds of forces which would be raiding against a group of defenceless transports. Hell, that doesn't even take the political considerations of that move into account: if people see that kind of ship running escort duty they have every right to assume either incompetence or an incredibly unsubtle attempt at intimidation (which suggests further incompetence somewhere in the political area). Neither one is good for you.

Fourth: my previous statements about the Requiem's mass and distance. It's all very nice to have an escort for your new colonists, but not when the colony's been swamped by a tidal wave which was caused by your ship's mass and the effect it has on the water nearby. At the very least, you could have recognised that and put in a snippet about making sure that the tidal forces it caused didn't have too many adverse effects on anyone nearby.

Fifth: vulnerability. As I've pointed out, the Amber class is probably optimised towards killing other Capital ships - that's what they're for. Which means that they're invariably worse at killing off the smaller things, an assessment which is reinforced by the fact that you quite happily keep a multitude of smaller ship classes, as opposed to one or two. And that means that it makes no sense to send them anywhere, even on a probable milk run, without a screen massing at least half of the ship itself. Or, if not, at least recognising that it would be a massive embarrassment for an Amber-class to have been damaged, disabled or destroyed by a Frigate lying cold, or a high-c attack.

Sixth: execution of concept. I have seen some people pull massive ships off well, giving the impression of power, majesty and inexplicable grace combined with a thorough understanding of the logistical, military and political realities of such ships. I have a great enjoyment for the posts which contain such ships: it stirs my sense of wonder while still managing to seem organic: as if there was a place in the story waiting for them. Unfortunately, you have not managed to capture the depth of such ships and it feels much more obtrusive and unsubtle than it could be. There was no real reason for the Requiem to show up and so its arrival feels forced and more reactionary than anything else.

Seventh: disregard for the OP. To quote:

No calling reinforcements from home. Your colony is a big boy, independent(-ish) and strong.

Despite this, you decided to call in your ship. Alright, but at that point you were either assuming that the OP had forgotten their own rules or were willing to let it slip. Whichever it was, you were wrong and so they asked you directly to remove it. Your response was to insult their intellectual ability and ignore their request - unless you intend to argue that this:

Well using the amazing powers of reading, you would know that they are bringing in settlers.

isn't implying that they can't read.

In short: you've insulted the OP directly and indirectly, you've ignored all logic and common sense in order to justify having your supership escort your transports and you've written it without even trying to use it to inspire the natural awe it should: you've just plonked it into the space and assumed that everyone else is going to fill in the poetry for you. Quite frankly, anything above three or four kilometres makes me naturally suspicious: far too many people use them to cover up for an inability to think and write innovatively or well, along with antimatter and dark energy. It's not encouraging that the post was as minimalistic as possible and, quite frankly, nothing in that post gives me any confidence in your skills, nor does anything in the OOC make me feel any better about your mindset.

I would read this. But I can guess the context. It's you making a really long list with each point being a paragraph of numerous sentences saying the same thing in different ways. Also, you are implying I can't think. I assure you sir, I can. I wouldn't be able to be writing this if I couldn't think.

[Spindle]

Off the top of my head?

First off, is there any point in an escort in this scenario? Your FTL is capable of the kind of pinpoint jumps into a gravity well which would be necessary for the Requiem to be visible from the planet's surface: your transports are, by default, starting and ending under the protective blanket of your orbital defences. Of course, you could be bringing the ship in on a permanent basis: that's covered in the OP and I'll get to that little tidbit later.

Secondly: the purpose of an escort is to defend the things their escorting, not to destroy the attackers outright. The distinction is slight, but let me ask what kind of formation your transports are in. In almost all of them, the Requiem will be incapable of defending all of the transports at any given time. That's why you use Cruisers, or possibly Battlecruisers, as the largest thing in an escort: so that you've got enough hulls to protect every aspect with PD, shields and the ships themselves.

Third: proportionality. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but the Amber class feels like a Capital ship in every sense of the word: optimised towards controlling the space around it. It is meant to fight ships of an equal calibre and it is designed towards that goal, not to fight the kinds of forces which would be raiding against a group of defenceless transports. Hell, that doesn't even take the political considerations of that move into account: if people see that kind of ship running escort duty they have every right to assume either incompetence or an incredibly unsubtle attempt at intimidation (which suggests further incompetence somewhere in the political area). Neither one is good for you.

Fourth: my previous statements about the Requiem's mass and distance. It's all very nice to have an escort for your new colonists, but not when the colony's been swamped by a tidal wave which was caused by your ship's mass and the effect it has on the water nearby. At the very least, you could have recognised that and put in a snippet about making sure that the tidal forces it caused didn't have too many adverse effects on anyone nearby.

Fifth: vulnerability. As I've pointed out, the Amber class is probably optimised towards killing other Capital ships - that's what they're for. Which means that they're invariably worse at killing off the smaller things, an assessment which is reinforced by the fact that you quite happily keep a multitude of smaller ship classes, as opposed to one or two. And that means that it makes no sense to send them anywhere, even on a probable milk run, without a screen massing at least half of the ship itself. Or, if not, at least recognising that it would be a massive embarrassment for an Amber-class to have been damaged, disabled or destroyed by a Frigate lying cold, or a high-c attack.

Sixth: execution of concept. I have seen some people pull massive ships off well, giving the impression of power, majesty and inexplicable grace combined with a thorough understanding of the logistical, military and political realities of such ships. I have a great enjoyment for the posts which contain such ships: it stirs my sense of wonder while still managing to seem organic: as if there was a place in the story waiting for them. Unfortunately, you have not managed to capture the depth of such ships and it feels much more obtrusive and unsubtle than it could be. There was no real reason for the Requiem to show up and so its arrival feels forced and more reactionary than anything else.

Seventh: disregard for the OP. To quote:



Despite this, you decided to call in your ship. Alright, but at that point you were either assuming that the OP had forgotten their own rules or were willing to let it slip. Whichever it was, you were wrong and so they asked you directly to remove it. Your response was to insult their intellectual ability and ignore their request - unless you intend to argue that this:



isn't implying that they can't read.

In short: you've insulted the OP directly and indirectly, you've ignored all logic and common sense in order to justify having your supership escort your transports and you've written it without even trying to use it to inspire the natural awe it should: you've just plonked it into the space and assumed that everyone else is going to fill in the poetry for you. Quite frankly, anything above three or four kilometres makes me naturally suspicious: far too many people use them to cover up for an inability to think and write innovatively or well, along with antimatter and dark energy. It's not encouraging that the post was as minimalistic as possible and, quite frankly, nothing in that post gives me any confidence in your skills, nor does anything in the OOC make me feel any better about your mindset.

I would read this. But I can guess the context. It's you making a really long list with each point being a paragraph of numerous sentences saying the same thing in different ways. Also, you are implying I can't think. I assure you sir, I can. I wouldn't be able to be writing this if I couldn't think.

Beg...pardon?

Did you just say: "I didn't read a thing you said, and you're wrong"? With added strawman thrown in, because you didn't actually read the damned thing but still had to refute it.

So, let me say this again: You have quite happily ignored and disrespected the OP both directly and indirectly, have disregarded both political and military logic as well as common sense and you are now claiming an unwillingness to read a post which answers the very question you asked in order to justify the existence of a ship, which has no logical reason to exist, in a situation in which it has no logical reason to be used. In addition to this, you have decided to, with a level of pedantry which can only be deliberate, claim that I think you're actually in a coma.

Let me put that one to rest: I am perfectly aware that there at least some thoughts in your head. What frustrates me is the fact that I can see that - I can see that you're scraping at the edge of innovative thought - and yet you willingly fail to think in terms of the things you do on here. You refuse to let reason sink its claws into your mind and instead behave like a child in a sandpit talking about the amount their parent makes: it's always got to be bigger. If you can convince me otherwise - if you can convince me that there is a logical rationale behind the Amber-class beyond the desire for a bigger ship to play with in the tub - then I would be ecstatic. I doubt you will.

[Eodor]

I would read this. But I can guess the context. It's you making a really long list with each point being a paragraph of numerous sentences saying the same thing in different ways. Also, you are implying I can't think. I assure you sir, I can. I wouldn't be able to be writing this if I couldn't think.

Beg...pardon?

Did you just say: "I didn't read a thing you said, and you're wrong"? With added strawman thrown in, because you didn't actually read the damned thing but still had to refute it.

So, let me say this again: You have quite happily ignored and disrespected the OP both directly and indirectly, have disregarded both political and military logic as well as common sense and you are now claiming an unwillingness to read a post which answers the very question you asked in order to justify the existence of a ship, which has no logical reason to exist, in a situation in which it has no logical reason to be used. In addition to this, you have decided to, with a level of pedantry which can only be deliberate, claim that I think you're actually in a coma.

Let me put that one to rest: I am perfectly aware that there at least some thoughts in your head. What frustrates me is the fact that I can see that - I can see that you're scraping at the edge of innovative thought - and yet you willingly fail to think in terms of the things you do on here. You refuse to let reason sink its claws into your mind and instead behave like a child in a sandpit talking about the amount their parent makes: it's always got to be bigger. If you can convince me otherwise - if you can convince me that there is a logical rationale behind the Amber-class beyond the desire for a bigger ship to play with in the tub - then I would be ecstatic. I doubt you will.

Big Ship more weapons.

There. Happy now?

Of course you're not, you're Spindle. You are never happy

[Spindle]

Beg...pardon?

Did you just say: "I didn't read a thing you said, and you're wrong"? With added strawman thrown in, because you didn't actually read the damned thing but still had to refute it.

So, let me say this again: You have quite happily ignored and disrespected the OP both directly and indirectly, have disregarded both political and military logic as well as common sense and you are now claiming an unwillingness to read a post which answers the very question you asked in order to justify the existence of a ship, which has no logical reason to exist, in a situation in which it has no logical reason to be used. In addition to this, you have decided to, with a level of pedantry which can only be deliberate, claim that I think you're actually in a coma.

Let me put that one to rest: I am perfectly aware that there at least some thoughts in your head. What frustrates me is the fact that I can see that - I can see that you're scraping at the edge of innovative thought - and yet you willingly fail to think in terms of the things you do on here. You refuse to let reason sink its claws into your mind and instead behave like a child in a sandpit talking about the amount their parent makes: it's always got to be bigger. If you can convince me otherwise - if you can convince me that there is a logical rationale behind the Amber-class beyond the desire for a bigger ship to play with in the tub - then I would be ecstatic. I doubt you will.

Big Ship more weapons.

There. Happy now?

Of course you're not, you're Spindle. You are never happy

Of course I'm not: not least because you've continued to ignore every point other than the last one I've made. It's as if you don't care that the OP told you not to use the Requiem.

Or, if that isn't enough for you, how about because that logic doesn't stand up? As you double the length of a ship, you increase its volume eightfold but its surface area only fourfold. That means its eight times hard to maneuver, eight times more expensive to build and eight times as massive for only a fourfold increase in the number of guns. You can increase the effectiveness of each gun, but that becomes irrelevant once you have to deal with informational lag and your weapons can mission-kill a ship with any given shot. You can still increase range by increasing the number of shots you fire, but you continue to make the ship slower and slower, which makes it directly easier for your enemies to target. Why? Because you're making your ship slower and slower and that decreases its sphere of probability at any given range, meaning that enemy can accurately target it at a longer range than a smaller, more mobile ship.

With certain loadouts it makes sense to build bigger - that's why I use missiles, so I can justify my Battleships have a greater throw weight than my Destroyers. But even with those, there are points where it stops being cost-effective to build bigger. There are reasons to build bigger than that, but none of them are military.

[Tagali Federation]

Just another day in International Incidents.

[Olimpiada]

Can someone who's not in this argument give me a TLDR on the whole thing, because I'm not reading all that.

[The New Earth Federation]

Hey tagli do you mind if I send a Raptor drop ship full of diplomats to interact with your colony? I'm investigating what other nations are on this planet

[Tagali Federation]

Hey tagli do you mind if I send a Raptor drop ship full of diplomats to interact with your colony? I'm investigating what other nations are on this planet

Sure, just have them fly over the ocean and I'll have some fighters escort you.

[The New Earth Federation]

Hey tagli do you mind if I send a Raptor drop ship full of diplomats to interact with your colony? I'm investigating what other nations are on this planet

Sure, just have them fly over the ocean and I'll have some fighters escort you.

Alright, I'll get in that

[The Interstellar Federation]

Can someone who's not in this argument give me a TLDR on the whole thing, because I'm not reading all that.

Eodor pissed everybody off for bringing in an essentially godmod super ship. He's known to do this, especially in the last RP I did with him, where he boarded my starship with 300,000 troops by smashing a shuttle into it...yeah, im not joking.

[Olimpiada]

Can someone who's not in this argument give me a TLDR on the whole thing, because I'm not reading all that.

Eodor pissed everybody off for bringing in an essentially godmod super ship. He's known to do this, especially in the last RP I did with him, where he boarded my starship with 300,000 troops by smashing a shuttle into it...yeah, im not joking.

Not gonna lie, that's pretty bad. Just say the word and I'll start flinging high velocity rods at it to counter the whole thing.

[Equalsun Empire]

Eodor pissed everybody off for bringing in an essentially godmod super ship. He's known to do this, especially in the last RP I did with him, where he boarded my starship with 300,000 troops by smashing a shuttle into it...yeah, im not joking.

Not gonna lie, that's pretty bad. Just say the word and I'll start flinging high velocity rods at it to counter the whole thing.

Eh, it's getting retconned, as it's basically as against the rules as reasonably possible

(It's also 150 Km in length and possesses a cannon "capable of destroying battleships in a single shot")

[Transoxthraxia]

[This isn't done yet.]

-GENERAL-
Full Nation Name: The Tabbaran Bio-Technological Combine
Short Nation Name: Tabbara, Bio-Tech, Bio-Tech Union, The Combine.
Colony Name: Naff'Jubba.
National Flag:

Colonial Flag: N/A.
Nation Leader: Chairman Gah'Uni Naff'Siibar
Colony Leader: Overseer-Governor Hual'di Naff'Manu
Government Type: An oligarchic corporatocracy governed and dominated by a coalition of bio-technological firms. (Somewhat) more info here.
Capital: Naff'Jibba.
Territory: The islands between purple and orange.
Preferred Map Colour: A bright (or failing that, middling) blue.
Colony Population: 17.3 Million.
Species: Tabbaran.
Language: Cosmopolitan Tabbaran.
Chance of revolt: Probably not.

---

-ECONOMY-
Ideology: The colony is sponsored by a number of the corporations in the Combine, so very free market, though somewhat oligarchic due to the fact that there's only a few firms providing goods.
Economy: Very strong.
Manufacturing: Decent.
Agriculture: Average.

---

-MILITARY- [I'll do this tomorrow - I have school to do tonight.]
(With your military vehicles, try to link it to your factbook instead of making blocks of text about it)
Commander-in-Chief:
Military Strength: (No more than 15% of your colony population)
Service Branches:
Standard Infantry:
Uniform:
Primary Weapon:
Sidearm: (If any)
Spare Gear: (If any)
Strengths:
Weaknesses:
Army Vehicles:
Main Battle Tank:
Infantry Support vehicle: (If Any)
Armoured Personnel Carrier: (If Any)
Self-Propelled Artillery: (If Any)
Strengths:
Weaknesses:
Navy Ships: (If Any)
Battleship:
Aircraft Carrier: (If Any)
Cruiser: (If Any)
Destroyer: (If Any)
Frigate: (If Any)
Submarine: (If Any)
Strengths:
Weaknesses:
Air Force: (If Any)
Fighter:
Bomber: (If Any)
Attack Helicopter: (If Any)
Strengths:
Weaknesses:
Space Force:
Cruiser:
Battleship: (If Any)
Carrier: (If Any)
Destroyer: (If Any)
Corvette: (If Any)
Starfighter:
Dreadnought: (If Any)
Strengths:
Weaknesses:

RP sample: (If you don't have one, just show me a short example of your writing. Also, if I've RPed with you before, don't worry about this so much)

[Olimpiada]

Not gonna lie, that's pretty bad. Just say the word and I'll start flinging high velocity rods at it to counter the whole thing.

Eh, it's getting retconned, as it's basically as against the rules as reasonably possible

(It's also 150 Km in length and possesses a cannon "capable of destroying battleships in a single shot")

150km is practically impossible. A high velocity spinal mounted railgun could potentially one shot a ship if it was able to hit a chink in the armor, but aside from that it's bogus.

[Equalsun Empire]

Eh, it's getting retconned, as it's basically as against the rules as reasonably possible

(It's also 150 Km in length and possesses a cannon "capable of destroying battleships in a single shot")

150km is practically impossible. A high velocity spinal mounted railgun could potentially one shot a ship if it was able to hit a chink in the armor, but aside from that it's bogus.

Indeed... It reminds me of my earlier FT days :s Let's not recall those. They're impractical, and let's leave it at that. And they happen to be against the rules. So bye-bye Amber

[The Interstellar Federation]

150km is practically impossible. A high velocity spinal mounted railgun could potentially one shot a ship if it was able to hit a chink in the armor, but aside from that it's bogus.

Indeed... It reminds me of my earlier FT days :s Let's not recall those. They're impractical, and let's leave it at that. And they happen to be against the rules. So bye-bye Amber

It's over 150km because of an "arms race" during that last RP i just described. Back then my largest ship was 26km and he really committed to the bigger is better thought...

[Olimpiada]

Indeed... It reminds me of my earlier FT days :s Let's not recall those. They're impractical, and let's leave it at that. And they happen to be against the rules. So bye-bye Amber

It's over 150km because of an "arms race" during that last RP i just described. Back then my largest ship was 26km and he really committed to the bigger is better thought...

Bigger is just easier to hit. If your spaceship is going to be bigger, it had better have a massive payoff.

[The Interstellar Federation]

It's over 150km because of an "arms race" during that last RP i just described. Back then my largest ship was 26km and he really committed to the bigger is better thought...

Bigger is just easier to hit. If your spaceship is going to be bigger, it had better have a massive payoff.

Yeah, besides how the f*ck are you going to power it.

[Olimpiada]

Bigger is just easier to hit. If your spaceship is going to be bigger, it had better have a massive payoff.

Yeah, besides how the f*ck are you going to power it.

A metric fuckton of hydrogen or antihydrogen. Or just go FFT and start using zero point reactors.

[Ella2 6]

...

I don't like this get rid of it.

Well using the amazing powers of reading, you would know that they are bringing in settlers.

Yeah... No.

You're bringing in manpower from home as well as a massive ship loaded with firepower. That's not on.
And this... This is not going to cut it.

Irenton Colonial Forces, this is IASS Amber Requiem. Our fleet is here to maintain the colony and bring in settlers. We'll be covering the orbital patterns.

I can ignore you insulting me. I can ignore the argument between you and Spindle. Everything OOC is pretty laid back for me. But as the OP I must make sure everything IC wise is checked out. And frankly, a 150km starship escorting 3.8 km ships makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

-snip-

So far, so good. Can't wait to see the finished product.
Especially that military section.

Bigger is just easier to hit. If your spaceship is going to be bigger, it had better have a massive payoff.

Yeah, besides how the f*ck are you going to power it.

That's what I wanted to ask about your dreadnoughts.

Then I realised that you had a massive land claim so I passed that one off.
But don't think you're in the clear. If I more than twelve of those dreadnoughts up there at once...

[The Interstellar Federation]

Well using the amazing powers of reading, you would know that they are bringing in settlers.

Yeah... No.

You're bringing in manpower from home as well as a massive ship loaded with firepower. That's not on.

You are the OP and the OP is law, so case adjourned?

[Ella2 6]

Yeah... No.

You're bringing in manpower from home as well as a massive ship loaded with firepower. That's not on.

You are the OP and the OP is law, so case adjourned?

There was never a case to begin with.

I asked him. Nay. I ordered him to get rid of it with a note of finality, as evident here:

I don't like this get rid of it.

I made this RP for two reasons.

Firstly;

Having fun...

But also, secondly this is;

An FT RP where logic and reason hod sway?...

^ These two reasons are what I'm doing it for. And if we're not having any fun, I've failed this RP and I've failed you guys as participants.

So Eodor, if you really wanted to bring that thing in you should have TGed me about it or asked me OOC. That's what the OOC is for. It was your responsibility to notify me and ask me about your actions and their relation to the rules I've set out.

Now, do as I say and get rid of your massive starship or I'll have to use force. And let me leave you with one last message.

Trust me, the boot hurts more than just your national leader.

[Tagali Federation]

Interstellar, that post isn't towards me, right?

[New Roma Republic]

Hey guys, I would like to apologize for I will be unable to post for a while. I am currently evacuating from the Hurricane, so it's going to head hectic for the next few days