The Brothers War | OOC (Closed)

by **Lacus Magni** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:53 am

The Brothers War

This is the OOC thread for the Brothers War, a civil war between two claimants to the Latin throne featuring the diplomacy and warfare between the competing factions for the Latin throne and their various domestic and foreign supporters. This RP is for members of Cornellia Only. I’ve already spoken with a number of people who have declared an interest in participating, and their potential role in the conflict. But if we haven't talked about it feel free to post here regarding your interest level or talk to me.

Important Links:
Map of Latium
In Character Thread

Rules:

Follow site rules
No godmod
Quality posts
No nuclear weapons
That there shall be no foreign occupation in Latium at the conclusion of the fighting.
Any military action taking place in this roleplay will require my OOC clearance.

*I don't foresee these being an issue, but you never know.

Major Claimants:

Prince Constantine of Youth: 22 years old, the heir apparent, and first born son of Emperor Jason VI Augustus by his second wife Zoe Verruscosi, is a recent graduate of Olympia Military Academy, the top higher learning institution that is a part of the Latin Armed Forces. Early in his time at Olympia he studied Politics, Philosophy and Economics where he was in the middle of his class, but later switched to and graduated with a degree in Strategic and International Studies. In March 2016, before his graduation, Constantine was made The Duke of Adrianople, and of the Khrysókeras; he had since been rumored to be headed to Adrianople and the surrounding area to work with local governments.

His Supporters

Prince Michael of Latium: The 20 year old, second born son of Emperor Jason VI Augustus and his second wife Zoe Verruscosi, is a second year student at Castellum College where he is studying Politics, Philosophy and Economics. Little is known of Michael, with the few reports of him ranging from describing him as being abrasive to brilliant and childish.

His Supporters

by **Lacus Magni** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:53 am

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Key Latin Figures

Constantine XX, supporters and prominent faction members

Prince Leo of Ghant (cousin)
Senator Anna Kinnamos (Leader of the Greek National Party in the Latin Senate)
Prefect John Santella of the Praetorian Guard
Lord Chief Justice Comitas Funar of the Supreme Court
Consul Alexander Pompilius and the Senate majority

Michael VIII, supporters and prominent faction members

Lord Commander Andronikos Mavrozomes of the Scholae Palatinae
High Lady Chancellor Antonia Fronatlia of His Majesty's Privy Council
General Jordan Caelius

Undeclared

Prince Theodosius, Duke of Beroea, leader of the Unaligned Movement in the Latin military

Foreign Support for Constantine

Foreign Support for Michael

Timeline of Events

by **Jedoria** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:50 pm

I'd be interested in taking part.

by **The IASM** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:28 pm

Akai Characters so far (still WIP):

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Aorta is....

Shijin is....

Housheng is....

Jieshi is....

Huo is....

by **Vylaris** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:01 pm

Nice work!

Since most won't know my nation, I thought that I'd write up the characters I will be using, just so their general backgrounds and motivations are understood.

Supporters of Michael:

Not that all of these will receive an exceptional degree of posting attention, but just so people have a rough idea.

Archon Brandin Avakian, Lord of the Skies: Head of the Avakiae, a long standing Vylaran noble family with a proud tradition. He is perhaps the third most powerful on the Court, though he has several rivals of near-equal stature. As Lord of the Skies, he is able to use satellites and aerial assets with near impunity to aid transport mercenaries and indirectly support Michael. He seeks lasting ties between Latium and Vylaris, and will generally sacrifice much for this goal. Linked to this is his personal ambition, for (like most Archons), he seeks to become the preeminent noble in Vylaris. He will the one to most strongly press for Michael to marry Lyra.
Archon Aliquart Maevolon, Lord of Converse: Head of the Maevolae, Aliquart is in fact the scion of an even older lineage than Avakian,. Converse is the Vylaran diplomatic branch, and Archon Maevolon has personal control over many (though not all) of the ambassadors and diplomatic channels, and can filter information that passes back into the Empire. He has similar ambitions to Avakian, though is perhaps more willing to cut his losses should this arrangement prove unfavourable.
Duke Ciano Castani, heir to the Castani: A young noble, with something of an infamous reputation, Ciano is ambitious. He has served as an officer in the legions, including several rounds of combat in Rysea. This was with distinction at the time, but was discharged dishonourably following an affair with the spouse of his superior officer. unlike most nobles, however, this gives him direct military experience 'on the ground', and has worked with various mercenary types. Currently heavily in debt, though that is mostly not his fault. His support for Michael is principally due to the patronage of Avakian and Maevolon, and has very little other interest in this.
Duke Vroenor Mehlen, Head of the Mehleni: The Mehleni were until recently one of the high nobility, but have largely fallen out of favour, following a dispute with Archon Rasafon. Vroenor sees Latium as an opportunity to restore his family's fortunes, and perhaps even surpass them. He has consequently thrown in the House's meagre fortunes and soldiery under the support of Avakian and Maevolon, and also has plans for Lainie...
Countess Lainie Mehlen: Vroenors's daughter and heiress of the Mehleni. Young, and eager to server her family, Lainie has just finished her courtly schooling. She has only been to Latium once.
Toughi : the head of a dispossessed mountain clan that ultimately lost its territory, Tougi and his Rysean hillmen are now guns for hire, fighting in the constant skirmishes that punctuate his homeland, and more recently, in some of the more lawless areas of Tiarna. He met Ciano during a past conflict, and has occasionally been employed by him since. He will serve wherever, though the Rysean and his men are not exactly used to strict discipline.

Neutrals:

N.B. A lot of these will only have 'bit part' or minor roles in events. Their presence is mostly felt in how they influence the actions of Michael's Vylaran backers. Except the empress, who is sorta pushed into things anyway. Because don't expect Lyra to catch a fucking break lol.

by **The Demphorian Kingdoms** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:04 pm

The Demphorian government shall be performing limited operations in favor of Prince Constantine.

by **Leasath** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:29 am

Taking interest, of course.

by **Republica De Gran Chaco** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:32 am

I have an interest, though realistically I dont know how involved Chaco would be. Maybe piggy back of of Jed? He is an ally and helped with Ashab.

by **Jedoria** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:52 pm

Republica De Gran Chaco wrote:I have an interest, though realistically I dont know how involved Chaco would be. Maybe piggy back of of Jed? He is an ally and helped with Ashab.

hop on my back little one

and i will take you 2 the stars

by **Republica De Gran Chaco** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:28 pm

Hurray!

by **New Edom** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:52 am

The Allied States of New Edom is mostly concerned with the conflict in Gloria Regis and the conflict in the Lesser Diols in Arcologia. At early stages like this intelligence gathering, concerens for trade and diplomacy will dominate. The questions for the government will be as follows:
- Which leader would continue the status quo in the Region most?
- Which leader would benefit New Edom most?
- Which leader is more likely to be well supported by key elements of Latin society?

Main characters at the start will be:
- Embassy officials in Latium
- New Edomite journalists and travelers in Latium
- Intelligence officials

Dr. Mercutius Philo (Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs for Acheron)
Vice-Admiral Matthias Randronoth (Ambassador to Latium)
Count Leander Seekron (Charge d'Affaires in Latium)
Colonel Timon Brero (Cultural Attache, Latium Mission)
Caleb Jejereth (journalist for NENN news)
Miss Gorgias Sessendris (journalist for The Fineberg Times)
Zachary Tharrin (field agent, operates as a travel writer)
Miss Honoria Meerzat (an opera singer visiting Latium, mistress of Admiral Randronoth)

by **Lacus Magni** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:11 pm

Everything looks great so far guys, thanks. For those of you that have reached out to Constantine, I won't have him respond until he's in a proper position to reveal himself - though that will hopefully be included in my next post.

by **Jedoria** » Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:56 pm

Since hostilities seem close, I'll go ahead and get an ORBAT up.

Task Force Vanguard (Assigned to secure commercial interests in the Latin-Noviteran Strait)

2x Henry IV class destroyer
-CNS Furious Redemption
-CNS Tranquil Composure

1x Bravado-class frigate
-CNS Commitment and Patience

1x Beluga-class frigate
-CNS Primordium

1x FREMM-class frigate
-CNS Kypsela

Task Force Lion

1x Annihilator-class aircraft carrier
-CNS All Under Heaven (115x Dassault Rafale JM, 3x JCE-6 AEW, 4x JMV-122 Utility Helicopter, 4x SEN-10 Utility Helicopter, 6x MRS-4 UAV)

2x Royal-class cruiser
-CNS Reliquary
-CNS Uthera Midgeerrd

2x Admiral Mcnulty-class destroyer
-CNS Enforcer
-CNS Light of Aidan

2x Horizon-class destroyer
-CNS Sabie
-CNS Rege

1x Odin-class GMD
-CNS Followers of Kerensky

2x General Maccabee-class frigate
-CNS Enduring Hope
-CNS Trust and Faith

1x Beluga-class frigate
-CNS Silentium

2x FREMM-class frigate
-CNS Egeta
-CNS Larissa

1x Maestrale-class frigate
-CNS Defiant

2x Valmont-class Nuclear attack sub
-CNS Emperor
-CNS Indomitable

5x San Giorgio-class amphibious transport dock
-CNS Courier
-CNS Postal Service
-CNS Messenger
-CNS Gateway
-CNS Pathfinder

4x Type 212 submarine

1st Naval Infantry Division
-4x Naval Infantry Brigade

by **Republica De Gran Chaco** » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:27 pm

These will be the overall forces for the time being.

Orbat

Naval

Task Force 1

1 Audacious Class Carrier
2 Foudre Class Amphibious Assault Ship
2 Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers
3 Audace Class Destroyers
2 De Zeven Provincien Class Frigate
2 Maestrale Class Frigates
2 Dolphin Class Submarines
1 Type 212 Submarine

Air Force

3rd Fighter Squadron- 12 F-15E

Land Forces

1st Commando Brigade
-Chaco Light Infantry
-1st Marine Regiment

2 Artillery Battalions

Support units

Naval Commandos

Rico Scout Platoon

LRRP Company

2 squadrons from Fleet Air Arm Reserve (A-4M Skyhawks)
1 squadron from IX Tactical Group (A-1 Skyraider)
1 squadron from VIII Tactical Group (SEAD) (F-4G Phantom)
Chaco Lancers Regiment

by **Arbites** » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:42 pm

Hey I've been a bit inactive, but is it all right if I make a post to feel things out ICly?

by **Lacus Magni** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:04 am

Of course, absolutely alright.

by **New Edom** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:36 pm

Latin, I would say that that last post you wrote is one of the best in the whole thread. The characters are veryw ell presented, the dialogue flowed very well, and Leo's attempt to act as envoy followed by the declration of Goerge was given excellent background. It was very good quiet drama, and I enjoyed reading it.

IIwiki Admin · by **Ghant** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:14 pm

Arbites wrote:Hey I've been a bit inactive, but is it all right if I make a post to feel things out ICly?

Good to see you Arby. I sent you a TG in regards to your post, and feel as though I should also add here that Constantine is the legitimate firstborn son, while Michael is the secondborn son.

by **Lacus Magni** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:17 pm

Ghant wrote:
Arbites wrote:Hey I've been a bit inactive, but is it all right if I make a post to feel things out ICly?

Good to see you Arby. I sent you a TG in regards to your post, and feel as though I should also add here that Constantine is the legitimate firstborn son, while Michael is the secondborn son.

Good catch, thanks.

New Edom wrote:Latin, I would say that that last post you wrote is one of the best in the whole thread. The characters are veryw ell presented, the dialogue flowed very well, and Leo's attempt to act as envoy followed by the declration of Goerge was given excellent background. It was very good quiet drama, and I enjoyed reading it.

And thanks for saying that Edom, it means alot.

by **Leasath** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:13 pm

Current ORBAT

Naval

2nd Carrier Strike Force - assembling near the coast of Saint-Nazaire

1x Saint-Nazaire-class Nuclear Aircraft Carrier, the IVV Thibault I, flagship of the Vannoisian fleet
1x Imperial-class Cruiser, the IVV Gressy
4x Sarppe-class Frigates, the IVV Sarppe, the IVV Pascal Robichaud, the IVV Montaussonne and the IVV Villeurville
2x Subercaseaux-class Frigates, the IVV Grelès and the IVV Avissons
2x Cléricot-class Destroyers, the IVV Teresa of Ghant and the IVV Soibonne
2x Alexandre I-class Destroyers, the IVV Montaulimar and the IVV Loïc Malet
1x Louis XIV-class Nuclear Submarine, the IVV Xavier I

Air

72x Dauphin-class multirole fighters, complement of the IVV Thibault I
3x Battier-class multipurpose helicopters, complement of the IVV Thibault I

Ground

1x Brigade of Imperial Marines, aboard the IVV Thibault I and other vessels
1x Division of the Imperial National Guards, gathering in major border crossing areas to assist in fallout from possible refugee arrivals and defend against possible incursions by hostile forces onto Vannoisian lands

by **Arbites** » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:34 pm

Ghant wrote:
Arbites wrote:Hey I've been a bit inactive, but is it all right if I make a post to feel things out ICly?

Good to see you Arby. I sent you a TG in regards to your post, and feel as though I should also add here that Constantine is the legitimate firstborn son, while Michael is the secondborn son.

All right, I'll edit accordingly.

by **Lacus Magni** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:22 pm

Hey guys, everything looks great so far. It's my hope that some actual combat will happen rather soon. But I still have some non-combat posts I want to get done before large scale hostilities start to break out.

by **New Edom** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:56 pm

Lacus Magni wrote:Hey guys, everything looks great so far. It's my hope that some actual combat will happen rather soon. But I still have some non-combat posts I want to get done before large scale hostilities start to break out.

Can we possibly get some idea of the scale? I have an idea about his btw: perhaps we could all edit in our possible committments with our posts in the War Planning Thread. This is an easy means to find such stuff, and you can link it in your OOC thread here so that people can easily find out what forces may be committed and what each nation may have.

by **Lacus Magni** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:03 pm

New Edom wrote:Can we possibly get some idea of the scale? I have an idea about his btw: perhaps we could all edit in our possible committments with our posts in the War Planning Thread. This is an easy means to find such stuff, and you can link it in your OOC thread here so that people can easily find out what forces may be committed and what each nation may have.

Sure no problem. So I figure most of the fighting will take place in the center of Latium, which is between the black and red lines found on this map: http://i.imgur.com/wpPKJsw.png, eventually working down towards Castellum.

Numbers wise, Michael has roughly most of the 100,000 Scholae Palatinae; however, they are a gendarmerie and most of the force is composed of policing units, with maybe 10,000-13,000 able to be used in combat (roughly). Michael will probably also have anywhere from 30,000 to 35,000 loyal soldiers from the Army.

Constantine, on the other hand, will likely have a smaller number of forces. He of course has the Praetorian Guard, but their effective combat numbers are minimal or either specialized. He would likely have 20,000 to 35,000 loyal soldiers from the Army based on his success in securing support from the Greeks.

This would still leave some members of the Army undeclared, likely only choosing a side when a clear victor presents itself. I've offhand mentioned some naval numbers. Constantine has secured the loyalty of Latium's sole aircraft carrier, and perhaps 4 destroyers and maybe 4 frigates. Michael a mixed bag of 15-18 ships at the moment.

Ideally, I think it'd be best if foreign intervening forces were roughly a couple thousand ground forces

Admittedly, I'm not all that experienced when it comes to war RP so I'm open to suggestions or assistance over the scale or other aspects. I'll continue to work on some more definite numbers as well.

by **New Edom** » Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:19 pm

Lacus Magni wrote:
New Edom wrote:Can we possibly get some idea of the scale? I have an idea about his btw: perhaps we could all edit in our possible committments with our posts in the War Planning Thread. This is an easy means to find such stuff, and you can link it in your OOC thread here so that people can easily find out what forces may be committed and what each nation may have.

Sure no problem. So I figure most of the fighting will take place in the center of Latium, which is between the black and red lines found on this map: http://i.imgur.com/wpPKJsw.png, eventually working down towards Castellum.

Numbers wise, Michael has roughly most of the 100,000 Scholae Palatinae; however, they are a gendarmerie and most of the force is composed of policing units, with maybe 10,000-13,000 able to be used in combat (roughly). Michael will probably also have anywhere from 30,000 to 35,000 loyal soldiers from the Army.

Constantine, on the other hand, will likely have a smaller number of forces. He of course has the Praetorian Guard, but their effective combat numbers are minimal or either specialized. He would likely have 20,000 to 35,000 loyal soldiers from the Army based on his success in securing support from the Greeks.

This would still leave some members of the Army undeclared, likely only choosing a side when a clear victor presents itself. I've offhand mentioned some naval numbers. Constantine has secured the loyalty of Latium's sole aircraft carrier, and perhaps 4 destroyers and maybe 4 frigates. Michael a mixed bag of 15-18 ships at the moment.

Ideally, I think it'd be best if foreign intervening forces were roughly a couple thousand ground forces

Admittedly, I'm not all that experienced when it comes to war RP so I'm open to suggestions or assistance over the scale or other aspects. I'll continue to work on some more definite numbers as well.

Well, I've been thinking a bit about that. One concern that I had is that quickly people semed to rally to Constantine (poor George!) and only Arbites and I to Michael. This may have a bit of an effect on how much actual intervention there is as things gain momentum.

BTW I like how you are depicting the action. The last three posts were particularly good and create a strong sense of tension. I think others' posting in this thread has been exemplary. This is arguably one of the strongest threads the region has done.

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