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Bahtar
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Postby Bahtar » Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:49 pm

Chkalovsk wrote:
Asigna wrote:
Isn't he one of your disciples? :p

Theyll help us whatever the final decision is (i think)

If not we'll bomb the shit out of them
Republic of Bahtar
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A tiny and beautiful, peaceful island republic which fights against the scourge that is communism and terrorism.



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Elysian Regions
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Postby Elysian Regions » Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:11 pm

Expect my post up soon
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Nation Name: Elysian Regions
OOC Name: Elysia
Government Type: Federal
Population (MT): 49,350,000
Population (FT): 987,000,000
Armed Forces: Elysian Regions Security Forces (ERSF)
Four Branches of the ERSF
Elyisa National Police (ENP)
Elysia National Army (ENA)
Elysia National Air Force (ENAF)
Elysian Regions National Navy (ERNN)

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Elysian Regions
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Postby Elysian Regions » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:12 pm

Errr... before I post this is that map in the OP correct?


Edit: Better idea, would you guys like me to make a bigger map? It would make this a lot easier, I'd make it look like this. It would be a lot clearer than the current map, I'm quite good at it and I'll update it accordingly.
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Nation Information
Nation Name: Elysian Regions
OOC Name: Elysia
Government Type: Federal
Population (MT): 49,350,000
Population (FT): 987,000,000
Armed Forces: Elysian Regions Security Forces (ERSF)
Four Branches of the ERSF
Elyisa National Police (ENP)
Elysia National Army (ENA)
Elysia National Air Force (ENAF)
Elysian Regions National Navy (ERNN)

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Arengin Union
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Postby Arengin Union » Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:34 pm

Bahtar wrote:
Chkalovsk wrote:Theyll help us whatever the final decision is (i think)

If not we'll bomb the shit out of them

I will help, but only after all diplomatic options have been considered.

And don't threaten my nation like that again Bhatari please.
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Bahtar
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Postby Bahtar » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:47 pm

Arengin Union wrote:
Bahtar wrote:If not we'll bomb the shit out of them

I will help, but only after all diplomatic options have been considered.

And don't threaten my nation like that again Bhatari please.

Does Arengin support the CLF?

Because if they do, we'll Nuclear bomb the shit out of them, or bomb, it depends.
Republic of Bahtar
“Tanrı ve Vatan”
A tiny and beautiful, peaceful island republic which fights against the scourge that is communism and terrorism.



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Arengin Union
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Postby Arengin Union » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:07 pm

Bahtar wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:I will help, but only after all diplomatic options have been considered.

And don't threaten my nation like that again Bhatari please.

Does Arengin support the CLF?

Because if they do, we'll Nuclear bomb the shit out of them, or bomb, it depends.

We're neutral. And if you want to bomb us we will retaliate. So don't even think about it.
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Bahtar
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Postby Bahtar » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:19 pm

Arengin Union wrote:
Bahtar wrote:Does Arengin support the CLF?

Because if they do, we'll Nuclear bomb the shit out of them, or bomb, it depends.

We're neutral. And if you want to bomb us we will retaliate. So don't even think about it.

I doubt the Arengin Union has the military to retaliate against Bahtar.
Republic of Bahtar
“Tanrı ve Vatan”
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Arengin Union
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Postby Arengin Union » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:23 pm

Bahtar wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:We're neutral. And if you want to bomb us we will retaliate. So don't even think about it.

I doubt the Arengin Union has the military to retaliate against Bahtar.

Yes it does, we spend a lot of money I'm defense. So don't threaten us, remember we're part of the same alliance and Arengin gives the most soldier to the Organization. So please don't make accusations and threaths to our people.
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Bahtar
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Postby Bahtar » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:45 pm

Arengin Union wrote:
Bahtar wrote:I doubt the Arengin Union has the military to retaliate against Bahtar.

Yes it does, we spend a lot of money I'm defense. So don't threaten us, remember we're part of the same alliance and Arengin gives the most soldier to the Organization. So please don't make accusations and threaths to our people.

If we wanted, Bahtar could send 10 million soldiers to OSAN but we feel that there's no need. Bahtar spends about 80 billion on their defense budget, has compulsory military service, Nuclear weapons the and only the finest military technology.

I would like to see you try.
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“Tanrı ve Vatan”
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Arengin Union
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Postby Arengin Union » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:52 pm

Bahtar wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:Yes it does, we spend a lot of money I'm defense. So don't threaten us, remember we're part of the same alliance and Arengin gives the most soldier to the Organization. So please don't make accusations and threaths to our people.

If we wanted, Bahtar could send 10 million soldiers to OSAN but we feel that there's no need. Bahtar spends about 80 billion on their defense budget, has compulsory military service, Nuclear weapons the and only the finest military technology.

I would like to see you try.

I do not need to brag about my military force. I can assure you we spend more than that. Anyway stop making threats thank you.
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Bahtar
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Postby Bahtar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:02 am

Arengin Union wrote:
Bahtar wrote:If we wanted, Bahtar could send 10 million soldiers to OSAN but we feel that there's no need. Bahtar spends about 80 billion on their defense budget, has compulsory military service, Nuclear weapons the and only the finest military technology.

I would like to see you try.

I do not need to brag about my military force. I can assure you we spend more than that. Anyway stop making threats thank you.

Why do you care if I make threats? But anyways, does the Arengin Union support the CLF?
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“Tanrı ve Vatan”
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Rencini
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Postby Rencini » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:30 am

I'd like to join this RP as a by-stander. My nation is a collection of semi-autonomous archipelagos whom are also colonizing a hostile island; given our national values, I would send a Consul and associated company to witness & report on the ongoing events, she would also seek to conduct arms deals and/or secure mercenary contracts. The Reni never miss out on economic opportunities :D
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Postby Singaporean Transhumans » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:45 am

Bahtar wrote:
Arengin Union wrote:Yes it does, we spend a lot of money I'm defense. So don't threaten us, remember we're part of the same alliance and Arengin gives the most soldier to the Organization. So please don't make accusations and threaths to our people.

If we wanted, Bahtar could send 10 million soldiers to OSAN but we feel that there's no need. Bahtar spends about 80 billion on their defense budget, has compulsory military service, Nuclear weapons the and only the finest military technology.

I would like to see you try.

>80 billion

Whats ur gdp again

EDIT: Spending 80% on defence is going to crash your whole country.
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Bahtar
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Postby Bahtar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:51 am

Singaporean Transhumans wrote:
Bahtar wrote:If we wanted, Bahtar could send 10 million soldiers to OSAN but we feel that there's no need. Bahtar spends about 80 billion on their defense budget, has compulsory military service, Nuclear weapons the and only the finest military technology.

I would like to see you try.

>80 billion

Whats ur gdp again

EDIT: Spending 80% on defence is going to crash your whole country.

300 billion.
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Postby Singaporean Transhumans » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:53 am

Bahtar wrote:
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:>80 billion

Whats ur gdp again

EDIT: Spending 80% on defence is going to crash your whole country.

300 billion.

Also whats ur govt budget because it can't be too big

Still, 26% is too big. The 1% rule applies for budget as well as personnel.
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Bahtar
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Postby Bahtar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:55 am

Singaporean Transhumans wrote:
Bahtar wrote:300 billion.

Also whats ur govt budget because it can't be too big

Still, 26% is too big. The 1% rule applies for budget as well as personnel.

What about 5% of the GDP, which is twenty billion. It was a typo, my GDP was 400 billion.
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Rencini
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Postby Rencini » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:28 am

Bahtar wrote:
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:Also whats ur govt budget because it can't be too big

Still, 26% is too big. The 1% rule applies for budget as well as personnel.

What about 5% of the GDP, which is twenty billion. It was a typo, my GDP was 400 billion.


The highest spending countries by GDP are Saudi Arabia, Iraq & Oman at about 10% of their GDP. These are outliers even as two are fighting a civil war and the other one subsidies other groups/governments, not to mention wage slavery and a host of other peculiarities. Israel and Algeria are next in group with about 5%, both have mandatory conscription, one is surrounded by hostile neighbors and experiences high levels of terrorism, and the other one is run by the military with frightening amounts of corruption and a neglectful government. Normal governments spend 1-2% of GDP. The US spends up to 3.5% owing to bases all around the world and current conflicts, also allowing other nations to spend less.

NATO recommends 2% of GDP, though this is not enforced and most members spend less.
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Postby Bahtar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:52 am

Rencini wrote:
Bahtar wrote:What about 5% of the GDP, which is twenty billion. It was a typo, my GDP was 400 billion.


The highest spending countries by GDP are Saudi Arabia, Iraq & Oman at about 10% of their GDP. These are outliers even as two are fighting a civil war and the other one subsidies other groups/governments, not to mention wage slavery and a host of other peculiarities. Israel and Algeria are next in group with about 5%, both have mandatory conscription, one is surrounded by hostile neighbors and experiences high levels of terrorism, and the other one is run by the military with frightening amounts of corruption and a neglectful government. Normal governments spend 1-2% of GDP. The US spends up to 3.5% owing to bases all around the world and current conflicts, also allowing other nations to spend less.

NATO recommends 2% of GDP, though this is not enforced and most members spend less.

Bahtar is very similar to Algeria, the government is effectively a military junta and has mandatory conscription.
Republic of Bahtar
“Tanrı ve Vatan”
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Postby Vulkata II » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:54 am

After Bahtar gets the deed to Semblan city and all of it's popullation evact'd expect only land.

And a small piece of land good for a city and a airport
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Postby Singaporean Transhumans » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:54 am

Bahtar wrote:
Rencini wrote:
The highest spending countries by GDP are Saudi Arabia, Iraq & Oman at about 10% of their GDP. These are outliers even as two are fighting a civil war and the other one subsidies other groups/governments, not to mention wage slavery and a host of other peculiarities. Israel and Algeria are next in group with about 5%, both have mandatory conscription, one is surrounded by hostile neighbors and experiences high levels of terrorism, and the other one is run by the military with frightening amounts of corruption and a neglectful government. Normal governments spend 1-2% of GDP. The US spends up to 3.5% owing to bases all around the world and current conflicts, also allowing other nations to spend less.

NATO recommends 2% of GDP, though this is not enforced and most members spend less.

Bahtar is very similar to Algeria, the government is effectively a military junta and has mandatory conscription.

...But is there a demand? A need?
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Postby Bahtar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:08 am

Singaporean Transhumans wrote:
Bahtar wrote:Bahtar is very similar to Algeria, the government is effectively a military junta and has mandatory conscription.

...But is there a demand? A need?

Yes, the entire world kind of condemns our war crimes and we endure regular bombing and deadly skirmishes from our, very, very angry neighbors.
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Postby Bahtar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:08 am

Vulkata II wrote:After Bahtar gets the deed to Semblan city and all of it's popullation evact'd expect only land.

And a small piece of land good for a city and a airport

Good, good. It will be easier to replace everyone with Arab settlers and rename the city.
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Postby The Socialist Global Union » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:10 am

Bahtar wrote:
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:...But is there a demand? A need?

Yes, the entire world kind of condemns our war crimes and we endure regular bombing and deadly skirmishes from our, very, very angry neighbors.

Sounds like it's a miracle Bahtar hasn't completely collapsed.
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Postby Vulkata II » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:14 am

Bahtar wrote:
Vulkata II wrote:After Bahtar gets the deed to Semblan city and all of it's popullation evact'd expect only land.

And a small piece of land good for a city and a airport

Good, good. It will be easier to replace everyone with Arab settlers and rename the city.

Meh sounds like a good idea
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Bahtar
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Postby Bahtar » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:15 am

The Socialist Global Union wrote:
Bahtar wrote:Yes, the entire world kind of condemns our war crimes and we endure regular bombing and deadly skirmishes from our, very, very angry neighbors.

Sounds like it's a miracle Bahtar hasn't completely collapsed.

No not at all, the UCI and OSAN just ignores all of our war crimes and being allies with the Union State, most of the bombings and skirmishes have been disappearing down greatly because the Union State gave Bahtar 100 nuclear bombs for free, 10 PAK DA bombers and a helluva lot of military equipment and support and now everyone who fucks with us is under threat of being, y'know, removed from the universe.
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“Tanrı ve Vatan”
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