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Leistung
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Postby Leistung » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:49 am

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Official Statement of the Leistungi Government

To: Yuri Morozov; Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs or proper office
From: Office of the Chancellor of Leistung
Subj: Wording of the charter of the Serovskya Pact

This letter is addressed to Yuri Morozov, but if his office is not the proper one to be dealing with affairs outside the alliance, I would implore the reader of this message to kindly deliver it to the proper office within the leadership of the Serovskya Pact.

Though the Leistungi government considers its relations with the members of the Serovskya Pact to be cordial at worst, there has been considerable unease concerning the wording of a paragraph of your charter. I, along with my fellow ministers and councilors of Leistung, would like to clear up any misunderstandings which might arise from this paragraph in advance, before conflict has a chance to arise.

Part three of Article Three of the charter reads, "...to protect socialism from counter-revolutionary and anti-socialist forces, member nations will allow the Soviet Union, with other Serovskya Pact members in support if needed, to intervene in any manner deemed necessary by the Soviet government if socialism or the socialist government is under threat from the threats mentioned in this section." It should be noted that it is possible to extrapolate from this section of the charter that the Serovskya Pact condones active intervention to support socialism outside its alliance's jurisdiction.

It is with this point that the government of Leistung takes offense. We cannot in good conscience allow the Pact to intervene to prop up dying and clearly unpopular socialist regimes simply because they are socialist. Likewise, corrupt, aggressive, and authoritarian regimes are all covered in the Serovskya Pact's rather broad outline of socialism, and it would appear that this alliance condones intervention on their behalf against, for example, a democratic, capitalist movement.

If this is not the case, I would very much appreciate an explanation of what exactly this alliance stands for. If it is, I must warn the leadership of the Pact that the Federal Republic does not tolerate socialist revolutionary states which flaunt their outdated ideals in the face of sovereign nations and seek through force of arms to overturn them.

Yours sincerely,

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Groko
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Postby Groko » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:24 pm

Full nation name: The United Socialist States of Groko

Population: 1.373 billion or 1,373,000,000

National leader's title: Prime Minister Duncan

Type of Political system: Parliamentary Democracy (WA: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy)

Type of Economic System: Socialism-
We also some Free Market Trade in Groko City. Over 80% of major businesses are state owned. 15% are private, but we one over 50% of the companies shares and 2% are Foreign Businesses.

Current wars?(if any): N/A

Military Alliances that you are a member of(if any): N/A

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Nitom
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Postby Nitom » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:54 pm

Sorry about the long application.


Full nation name: The Holy Empire of Nitom.
Population: 3.271 billion.
National leader's title: Ethan.
Type of Political system: dictatorship, Iron Fist Consumerists.
Type of Economic System: I mainly focus of law and order and defence, but then education, transport, and healthcare, you will read it in my summary.
Current wars?(if any): Not that i know of.
Military Alliances that you are a member of(if any): yes the ASA/Amalgamated States Alliance


Here is a summary of my nation.(I used ns tracker here is the link. http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconom ... tion=Nitom )

The Holy Empire of Nitom
“we shall rise”

Domestic Statistics Government Category: Iron Fist Consumerists
Government Priority: Law & Order
Economic Rating: Good
Civil Rights Rating: Unheard Of
Political Freedoms: Outlawed
Income Tax Rate: 100%
Major Industry: Arms Manufacturing
National Animal: hawk
National Currency: nitomian dallor
Total Population: 3,271,000,000
Government Budget Details Administration: $1,038,980,971,008.00 9%
Social Welfare: $0.00 0%
Healthcare: $1,154,423,301,120.00 10%
Education: $577,211,650,560.00 5%
Religion & Spirituality: $0.00 0%
Defence: $2,886,058,252,800.00 25%
Law & Order: $5,425,789,515,264.00 47%
Commerce: $0.00 0%
Public Transport: $461,769,320,448.00 4%
The Environment: $0.00 0%
Social Equality: $0.00 0%
Nitom Economic Statistics Exchange Rate: 3.8280 nitomian dallors = $1
Gross Domestic Product: $12,024,111,412,169.85
GDP Per Capita: $3,675.97
Unemployment Rate: 12.23%
Consumption: $0.00
Government Budget: $14,430,291,264,000.00
Government Expenditures: $11,544,233,011,200.00
Goverment Waste: $2,886,058,252,800.00
Exports: $2,048,388,320,969.84
Imports: $1,568,509,920,000.00
Trade Surplus: $479,878,400,969.84
Amalgamated States Alliance Economic Statistics Gross Regional Product: $203,888,627,332,641.56
GRP Per Capita: $22,077.82
Regional Population: 9,235,000,000
Regional Average GDP: $20,388,862,733,264.16
Largest GDP: Niveus Vesica ($172 trillion)
Smallest GDP: Nativian Islands ($109 billion)
Largest GDP Per Capita: Niveus Vesica ($41,388)
Smallest GDP Per Capita: Nativian Islands ($1,605)
Largest Trade Surplus: Nitom ($480 billion)
Largest Trade Deficit: Niveus Vesica ($520 billion)
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Also here is another summary.

The Holy Empire of Nitom is a massive, safe nation, ruled by Ethan with an iron fist, and notable for its suspicion of poets. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, cynical population of 3.271 billion are kept under strict control by the oppressive government, which measures its success by the nation's GDP and refers to individual citizens as "human resources."

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, corrupt, moralistic government stops and the rest of society begins, but it is mainly concerned with Law & Order, although Defence and Healthcare are secondary priorities. It meets every day to discuss matters of state in the capital city of rumek. The average income tax rate is 100%. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Arms Manufacturing industry, followed by Uranium Mining and Information Technology.
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Osea 767
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Postby Osea 767 » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:45 am

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Official Communique from the Serovskya Pact


To: Office of the Chancellor of Leistung
From: Presidium of the Serovskya Pact Executive Council, Serovskya Pact

First, I would like to say that I take all your concerns seriously and will be more than happy to answer your concerns. This alliance stands for socialism, though, a you have already noted, this is a broad area. It is therefore easier to go by what Osea stands for, as it is the leading nation of the pact. What that refers to is Marxism-Leninism. We prefer a socialist system to at least include some elements of democracy, as we feel that it is required to ensure a healthy socialist state. Unfortunately, we must accept the realities of the present and that there are many states that are not as tolerant of socialism and as caring to the working class as Leistung is. The threat from extreme capitalist and imperialist nations is real, and there is a need to form a popular front to defeat them.

As for the section you raise, this only applies to what happens within the Serovskya Pact and the internal affairs of it's members, and does not apply to the affairs of non-members. This will not be used to justify intervention in the affairs of non-member nations. As for your example of the pact supporting an authoritarian member against a democratic, capitalist movement, the pact does make this possible. However, it would be up to the Soviet Socialist Union and other members to decide if they wanted to intervene or not. In the case of your example, it is likely that we would intervene. However, whether we would do so in support of the government is another matter. If the government was an unpopular stalinist government, it is possible that we would instead replace it with a democratic socialist government. Our decision will depend on the circumstances.

Sincerely,
Aleksander Mironov,
President of the Serovskya Pact Executive Council,
Premier of the Soviet Socialist Union of Osea
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Postby Osea 767 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:53 am

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Official Communique from the Serovskya Pact


To: The United Socialist States of Groko
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskya Pact

We are pleased to say that your nation have now been admitted as a member of the Serovskya Pact.


Sincerely,
Yuri Morozov,
Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs


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Official Communique from the Serovskya Pact


To: The Holy Empire of Nitom
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskya Pact

We must deny your application, as you clearly are not socialist.


Sincerely,
Yuri Morozov,
Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs
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Kaszubia
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Postby Kaszubia » Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:57 am

Minister Morozov,

Due to the great external dangers which crowd and threaten to destroy even the great Socialist nations of our world, the Kaszubian people's government has seen necessary to seek alliances with other Socialist nations in the interests of mutual defense and assistance. In that line of thinking, we humbly submit our request for admission into the Serovskya Pact as follows:

Full nation name: The Republic of Kaszubia (Rzeczpospólita Kaszëbscza)
Population: 2,314,600
National leader's title: Prime Minister Tadeusz Skłodowski
Type of Political system: Parliamentary Democracy
Type of Economic System: All industries are Socialized except businesses of under 50 employees.
Current wars?(if any): None
Military Alliances that you are a member of(if any): None

If any additional information or dialogue is necessary, do not hesitate to contact the Ministry of External Affairs directly. I and all my staff eagerly await your response.

Sincerely,
Petr Adamczyk
Minister of External Afairs
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Postby Osea 767 » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:01 am

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Official Communique from the Serovskya Pact


To: The Republic of Kaszubia
From: Internal Pact Affairs Commission, Serovskya Pact

We are pleased to welcome your nation as a member of the Serovskya Pact and hope this will be the start of a long lasting friendship betwwen our people. For World Socialism, Comrades!


Sincerely,
Yuri Morozov,
Commissioner for Internal Pact Affairs
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Postby Osea 767 » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:52 pm

OOC: Comrades, I have put a proposal forward on our forum which I wish for you to take a look at and vote on. Here is the Link.
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Groko
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Postby Groko » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:02 pm

Is it me, or is anyone else constantly getting new posts alerts only to discover that nothing new has been posted after all.

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Postby Chrobalta » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:02 pm

Groko wrote:
Is it me, or is anyone else constantly getting new posts alerts only to discover that nothing new has been posted after all.

The thread seems to bump itself.
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Postby Osea 767 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:50 am

OOC: Yeah, that's me. From what I'm hearing, you guys have subscribed to the thread. I would recommend that you use the bookmark function instead. Its less annoying, at least in my opinion.
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Groko
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Postby Groko » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:54 pm

If you say so.

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Postby Sharfghotten » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:57 pm

OOC: I've bookmarked. I know your game, Osea. I use the same tactic ;)
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Hardenburg-Slechlenburgh War- Sharfghotten victory
Sharfghotten-Ryouese War- Ongoing
Hardenburgh-Troptopian War- Sharfghotten victory (Troptopian surrender)
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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:22 am

OOC: Heh, I've seen it done enough times to know I'm not the only one using it. ;)
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Postby Sharfghotten » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:26 am

Anyway, if any of the Pact isn't up to much at current,

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=39319

Feel free to join in.
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Hardenburg-Slechlenburgh War- Sharfghotten victory
Sharfghotten-Ryouese War- Ongoing
Hardenburgh-Troptopian War- Sharfghotten victory (Troptopian surrender)
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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:03 pm

OOC: I'm involved in a number of threads at the moment, though I'm sure I can scrounge up the forces needed to support you.
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Postby Groko » Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:34 pm

OCC: I posted on our private forum.

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Postby Osea 767 » Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:11 am

OOC: I've replied.
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Rusikstan
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Postby Rusikstan » Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:16 pm

OOC: Yes so have I, rather interesting issue.

on a side note, I'm confused at whether to write in third or first person on our forum. Should i be writing as if I'm an ambassador, (which technically can be either) as the nation, or as just "me". Maybe we should put forth some Ambassadors/minsters. OHHH and then put our our ambassadors/ministers on the forum in a section like in the welcoming lobby have "Forum rules" and then "Serovskya Pact Ambassadors/Ministers" listing name, country, residence etc..[just an idea]
while on that idea, not to push the issue or put any hardship on you osea ,but is that Coucil of commissioners coming along well or has that idea been abandoned? If any help is needed with this idea im sure some of the members would be happy to help out with it.
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United Dependencies wrote:What is the likelihood of a tactical nuke being used in this situation?

Well, the OP was looking for advice for an IC war in II, so I suppose that they would be used almost immediately.
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Postby Rhods » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:45 pm

Comrades, today I stand for the sovereignty of all Communist nations as we are attacked yet again by Imperialists. I bring news of the impending Gothic strike upon Sharfgotten and wish to present these reports (this link) for consideration by the Pact for possible mobilization!

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Postby Kriania » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:46 pm

Already did (are you posting this in every alliance you in)
Start a embassy in Kriania today: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=38986
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Navy 500,000
Airforce, 200,000
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Postby Rhods » Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:47 pm

Kriania wrote:Already did (are you posting this in every alliance you in)


(OOC: Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe..... (sarcastic effect))

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Postby Rusikstan » Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:33 pm

Rhods wrote:Comrades, today I stand for the sovereignty of all Communist nations as we are attacked yet again by Imperialists. I bring news of the impending Gothic strike upon Sharfgotten and wish to present these reports (this link) for consideration by the Pact for possible mobilization!



It must be said that there must be some background to the threat presented by this collective known as the "Gholgoth". As it appears to this nation, Sharfghotten has upset an immense beast now seeking persecution of its wakers. It would appear, as well, that as of now this "beast" threatens Sharfghotten alone. However, the fate of the our nations can be determined be this conflict as this "New World Order" would not be kind to our style of govern. It is agreed that this conflict must be addressed by this pact.
Senestrum wrote:Russians took the maximum allowable missile performances from the ABM treaty as design goals.

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United Dependencies wrote:What is the likelihood of a tactical nuke being used in this situation?

Well, the OP was looking for advice for an IC war in II, so I suppose that they would be used almost immediately.
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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:58 am

OOC: First, I wish to say that ideas like the Council of Commissioners are still being worked on. The reason why thy are not being enacted yet is that I have not been able to use my computer for the last few days. As for the war with Gholgoth, I'll make my starting moves and a declaration on the thread. I'll also try to see if I can get us some more allies.
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Postby Sharfghotten » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:38 pm

Feel free to post stuff in my news thread everyone.
Sharfghotten State Armaments
Hardenburg-Slechlenburgh War- Sharfghotten victory
Sharfghotten-Ryouese War- Ongoing
Hardenburgh-Troptopian War- Sharfghotten victory (Troptopian surrender)
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