OOC: Things to do in Caracasus before you die (MT/PMT/Dip)

[Caracasus]

Political campaigning - releasing propaganda videos etc. could help. Half the battle isn't on the ground, it's making people all around the world sympathetic to the plight of the Retirada.



Yup. Still going strong, don't ask me for a re-cap though as I don't have all week... interested in making a reappearance?

I have practically gutted and redone my nation entirely and tried to improve RP skill a lot since my last post here, and I imagine the effects I had on the rp with my previous nation were little. So I might just ask for any of my previous actions to be retconned if at all possible and my nation to come in fresh into the RP if I decide to reappear.

Given that you were not involved in anything much beyond some anti-piracy actions... It's allowable this once. That does not count for all other players as their actions are far to emeshed within the plots for them to be removed. Basically, you didn't do much so sure.

[Caracasus]

It sure is an intriguing place isn't it, considering that you could probably spit across the Peninsula.

What do you mean?

But yes, I could start a huge war.

Well, it's just so small really.

[Flauc]

I have practically gutted and redone my nation entirely and tried to improve RP skill a lot since my last post here, and I imagine the effects I had on the rp with my previous nation were little. So I might just ask for any of my previous actions to be retconned if at all possible and my nation to come in fresh into the RP if I decide to reappear.

Given that you were not involved in anything much beyond some anti-piracy actions... It's allowable this once. That does not count for all other players as their actions are far to emeshed within the plots for them to be removed. Basically, you didn't do much so sure.

What would happen if I retconned everything?

Not saying I will.

Just curious.

[Caracasus]

Given that you were not involved in anything much beyond some anti-piracy actions... It's allowable this once. That does not count for all other players as their actions are far to emeshed within the plots for them to be removed. Basically, you didn't do much so sure.

What would happen if I retconned everything?

Not saying I will.

Just curious.

You couldn't... you're far too involved in the various plots etc. for us to suddenly go "oh that didn't happen." GDR on the other hand turned up at the start, intervened in one single pirate raid and then left. That can be retconned as it has no real impact on current or historic events.

EDIT: And rule 8 states that: Once you're in, you're in. Retconning will be allowed only in the most extraordinary of circumstances - and only for the last post made. Breaking this rule will result in darkly hilarious consequences for any of your people left on the peninsula.

GDR gets away with this as they were never really "in" the RP in the sense that they were involved in any of the long, convoluted storylines.

[Flauc]

What would happen if I retconned everything?

Not saying I will.

Just curious.

You couldn't... you're far too involved in the various plots etc. for us to suddenly go "oh that didn't happen." GDR on the other hand turned up at the start, intervened in one single pirate raid and then left. That can be retconned as it has no real impact on current or historic events.

EDIT: And rule 8 states that: Once you're in, you're in. Retconning will be allowed only in the most extraordinary of circumstances - and only for the last post made. Breaking this rule will result in darkly hilarious consequences for any of your people left on the peninsula.

GDR gets away with this as they were never really "in" the RP in the sense that they were involved in any of the long, convoluted storylines.

I mean, what if I break the rule.

[Significance]

Oh btw, I posted in Carosi's welcome to paradise, just so you all know.

[Caracasus]

You couldn't... you're far too involved in the various plots etc. for us to suddenly go "oh that didn't happen." GDR on the other hand turned up at the start, intervened in one single pirate raid and then left. That can be retconned as it has no real impact on current or historic events.

EDIT: And rule 8 states that: Once you're in, you're in. Retconning will be allowed only in the most extraordinary of circumstances - and only for the last post made. Breaking this rule will result in darkly hilarious consequences for any of your people left on the peninsula.

GDR gets away with this as they were never really "in" the RP in the sense that they were involved in any of the long, convoluted storylines.

I mean, what if I break the rule.

Darkly hilarious things happen to your people. I'll let Carosi handle that department.

[Tekeristan]

My nation changed a lot between when I left the Oehiton mess to join this mess.

[Caracasus]

My nation changed a lot between when I left the Oehiton mess to join this mess.

Oh, nations changing is absolutely fine. What isn't fine is when a nation goes "Oh, no you know what - I'm out and nothing I posted ever happened". That's why rule 8 is there. If FLauc were to undergo another coup and instigate a democratic government, or even some sort of socialist uprising - and decide actually they're not going to support Tanaka's govt. anymore that would be fine. However at this point Flauc can't turn round and say "yeah none of that stuff done by my nation in Menthi happened". That's the distinction I'm trying to make.

[The Yuktobanian Republic]

I just joined, so I'm most likely not ingrained into the RP timeline...

... yet.

[Tekeristan]

I'm thinking about re-introducing elephants into the landscape of Teker..
A little experiment, if you will.

[Watersville]

I'm thinking about re-introducing elephants into the landscape of Teker..
A little experiment, if you will.

But isn't it a bit cold for elephants in Romania?

[Caracasus]

I'm thinking about re-introducing elephants into the landscape of Teker..
A little experiment, if you will.

But isn't it a bit cold for elephants in Romania?

Just a bit, yeah!

How about mammoths?

[Tekeristan]

I'm thinking about re-introducing elephants into the landscape of Teker..
A little experiment, if you will.

But isn't it a bit cold for elephants in Romania?

Nothing a few experimental breeding and observation projects can't solve with a good budget and time, hopefully.

But isn't it a bit cold for elephants in Romania?

Just a bit, yeah!

How about mammoths?

Mammoths are for places a bit colder.

Some descendant mix of the Straight-Tusked elephant seems to be the plan.

[Flauc]

But isn't it a bit cold for elephants in Romania?

Just a bit, yeah!

How about mammoths?

What happens to my elephants?

[Caracasus]

Just a bit, yeah!

How about mammoths?

What happens to my elephants?

I dunno - are you keeping them well fed, watered and giving them plenty of things to play with and occupy themselves? If so I'm sure they're doing grand.

[Tekeristan]

What happens to my elephants?

I dunno - are you keeping them well fed, watered and giving them plenty of things to play with and occupy themselves? If so I'm sure they're doing grand.

There much of anywhere Teker scientists can nab borrow a small colony of elephants for the purposes I described above?

[Flauc]

What happens to my elephants?

I dunno - are you keeping them well fed, watered and giving them plenty of things to play with and occupy themselves? If so I'm sure they're doing grand.

Marela fed them to Flaucese Lions when we attacked Osirio. You know, symbolic.

Just kidding.

[Caracasus]

I dunno - are you keeping them well fed, watered and giving them plenty of things to play with and occupy themselves? If so I'm sure they're doing grand.

There much of anywhere Teker scientists can nab borrow a small colony of elephants for the purposes I described above?

I should think so. Caracasus isn't the only place you can find elephants. It's just that they're as close as you can get to a sacred animal in a largely agnostic/athiestic state... they're an important cultural figure.

[Caracasus]

I dunno - are you keeping them well fed, watered and giving them plenty of things to play with and occupy themselves? If so I'm sure they're doing grand.

Marela fed them to Flaucese Lions when we attacked Osirio. You know, symbolic.

Just kidding.

Ha ha! Probably for the best. Lions VS Elephants would end very badly indeed for the lions.

[Tekeristan]

Marela fed them to Flaucese Lions when we attacked Osirio. You know, symbolic.

Just kidding.

Ha ha! Probably for the best. Lions VS Elephants would end very badly indeed for the lions.

I wonder how wolves would take down an elephant..

How many would Caracasus be willing to send?
On that note, how bad is poaching in Caracasus for ivory?

[Caracasus]

Ha ha! Probably for the best. Lions VS Elephants would end very badly indeed for the lions.

I wonder how wolves would take down an elephant..

How many would Caracasus be willing to send?
On that note, how bad is poaching in Caracasus for ivory?

Eh - elephants are fucking massive, pretty smart and tend to go around in groups. There's no predator that's going to pose a serious threat to them on that basis. If the herd feels threatened, then the herd forms a ring around the younger elephants and essentially charge and kill the predators. That's why lions etc. tend to move quickly away from elephant herds. Typically the most in danger elephants are young ones - they tend to be kept under very close scrutiny by their mother and other herd members - like most mammals there is a strong bond between offspring and parent. If the wolves were exceptionally hungry, then they might attack a herd, attempting to pick off a younger member. This is very unlikely to go well for the wolves.

(Incidentally that is what seriously annoyed me with the Jurrasic Park films - if the herbivores (Triceratops/brontosaurus etc) are in any way analogous to modern day large herbivores, odds are they could well be significantly more dangerous than the predators - yet people pet them? Look up crocodile VS hippo deaths... anyway, I digress)

Sometimes a lone or straggling member of the herd may be picked off - which is the M.O of most predators.

Poaching of ivory is a deeply serious crime - as is poaching in general. On top of that, you've got the fact that Caracasusians really like elephants. On the occasion that someone has been arrested for ivory poaching in Caracasus, they've often had to be protected by Int Sec from those who would seek a more immediate revenge.

[Significance]

I've had an idea... (involving animals)

Relating to that point, when should I start the meeting? No one's arrived yet you see.

[Tekeristan]

I'd imagine wolves would catch the occasional really old or young elephant by separating them from the herd and running them into exhaustion..
Rare, yea. Probably more rare than what the lions get, but it's a thought.

I think I'm going to pursue this Elephant initiative.
There's a good few benefits regarding such.

It also helps preserve elephant numbers world wide, in the case Flauc & Caracasus nuke each other into dust.

I'm just trying to think how it will effect the current ecosystems.. So if anyone can help me there, it would be greatly appreciated.

[Caracasus]

I'd imagine wolves would catch the occasional really old or young elephant by separating them from the herd and running them into exhaustion..
Rare, yea. Probably more rare than what the lions get, but it's a thought.

I think I'm going to pursue this Elephant initiative.
There's a good few benefits regarding such.

It also helps preserve elephant numbers world wide, in the case Flauc & Caracasus nuke each other into dust.

I'm just trying to think how it will effect the current ecosystems.. So if anyone can help me there, it would be greatly appreciated.

They're more likely to pick off stragglers, or scavenge the occasional elephant that dies. Okay - elephants are what is known as a keystone species. This means they have a really very significant effect on their environment. I'm unsure (and frankly I sincerely doubt anyone really knows) what the effect would be. They're huge herbivores that eat an awful lot - they're vital in spreading seeds in the places in Asia that still have them... in Uganda they had problems because the population grew rather large. About the only threat to elephants is man.

In India, some breweries have been attacked by elephants because they quite like the taste of beer. They can also damage large amounts of land. Given they're bloody massive, it's hard to get them to stop doing so - bee fences work well in some areas because elephants don't really like bees. Other places use fireworks to scare them off.

Of course, this isn't realistic - it wouldn't be but you'd also have to consider habitat. Are there plants that elephants would be able to eat there?