House of Representatives (NAF Parliament) [NAF Only/IC]

[Aquatur]

The Speaker stands up to address the Parliament, "Right Honorable Members, I now move that this House consider the nomination put forth by the Founder, following the passage of map rules, to appoint Greater Nordic Federation as Regional Cartographer. Do I hear a second for the motion?"

[Nova-Canada]

Jeanne LeBlanc stood up, Straightening her jacket with her left hand. "I second the motion" she declared before retaking her seat.

[Aquatur]

Jeanne LeBlanc stood up, Straightening her jacket with her left hand. "I second the motion" she declared before retaking her seat.

"The motion has been made and seconded, therefore this House will now move to consider the nomination. I will allocate 36 hours for debate. The Chair recognizes the Founder of the North American Federation."

((I have chosen Greater Nordic for a number of reasons. For one, he has shown to me he is quite knowledgeable of this skill a number of times and when approached, he has shown interest in having the position. Also, he is, I find, an active member and polite member of this community. Traits that are vital to grow our fairly new region.))

[Aquatur]

"Order, Order! The Deputy Speaker shall assume control of the Chair in my Absense." The Speaker set down his gavel and left the House Chambers.

((Nomination voting null, the Deputy Speaker shall move on to the next item on the agenda, if any. By order of the Speaker.))

[Aquatur]

"Order! Order! The Speaker of the House, the Right Honorable Lionel Nathaniel James of Aquatur." The Speaker enters the Chambers and relieves the Deputy Speaker of his duties, thanking him for his work whilr he was absent.

"Right Honorable Members of Parliament, a bill now sits before the House. I motion that it be brought before the House for debate. Do I here a second?"

[Our Governator]

Richard Goldwater stands, waving his order papers. "I second," he sits back down.

[Aquatur]

"The motion has been made and seconded. I will now allow for debate..." Shuffling through his papers, he then replies, "I wish to call up the Right Honorable Member from The Greater Nordic Federation to make an address."

[The Greater Nordic Federation]

"The motion has been made and seconded. I will now allow for debate..." Shuffling through his papers, he then replies, "I wish to call up the Right Honorable Member from The Greater Nordic Federation to make an address."

Byström looks at the few papers he brought, to then say,"Parliament, What is proposed before you has been seen in variations by every western nation on God's Green Earth and they too have Accepted a similar Bill with the Exception of Australia. So, Why should we not accept such an article and join our fellow nations?"

[Aquatur]

Getting ready to address the House, the Speaker clear his throat and smoothed out his black robes. He stood up, putting on his reading glasses, began to talk.

"Right Honorable Members of the House, I would like to personally like to thank the Right Honorable Member from the Greater Nordic Federation for his Bill. It is certainly imperative the rights of the peoples and nations of this great North American Federation be protected. I do however stand to address some points that I wish to clarify. Firstly, Section II, the 'The Peoples of the North American Federation may have the right to own Firearms.' I believe the wording is unclear, having the word may, it could be interpreted two either ways. (May being an optional choice, leaving it up to a perhaps to a government to determine whether they have the right, whereas 'shall' or have by itself being more definitive.) I would also like to raise a point of debate on the phrase "own firearms" rather than 'right to keep and bear arms'. Secondly, Section VI 'The Peoples of the North American Federation have the right to live in a free to believe in what religion they choose without being forced to believe in such.' I believe that may have just been a mistype. Thirdly, Section VIII 'If not stated in any formal Governance legislation, the Nations under North American Governance may choose as they wish about the Situation.' I would like this to be clarified.

The Speaker defines his two points of debate to which members of Parliament can respond to and debate:
1. The suspension of rights and liberties by the North American Federation found in Section VII. The Speakers views- These Rights and Liberties are no longer Rights or Liberties when they are subject to the 'approval' of any government. Therefore, I would like to amend such section be read as follows, "The North American Federation, nor any State within the North American Federation, shall take away or deprive any citizen of their Liberties and Rights.

2.The phrase own firearms versus the right to keep and bear arms. The Speakers views- N/A (Honestly, I am just lost on what the difference is. If any)

[Nova-Canada]

Jeanne LeBlanc stands.
"I appreciate The right honorable Abraham Byström's efforts to establish rights for the North American Federation, Though I believe this initial Bill is not sufficient. Firstly the document does not establish the freedom of peaceful assembly, I feel that this is an essential right for a functional democracy. Secondly I believe the right to own firearms or to bear arms should be established by each state, as while there are legitimate reasons why a nation would desire the right for all citizens to own a firearm there are also equally legitimate reasons why a nation may not want their citizens to have firearms. Moreover such a right is not necessary for a society to function."

[Our Governator]

Richard Goldwater stands. "Members of the house, we don't get to pick and choose what is a right and what isn't. Does one have the right to healthcare? One in a socialist society might say they have the right to government healthcare; in a capitalist society they may say that one has the right to buy healthcare. For that reason, we should list only the most essential rights, and ensure that there is a catch-all-others section."

[Aquatur]

Richard Goldwater stands. "Members of the house, we don't get to pick and choose what is a right and what isn't. Does one have the right to healthcare? One in a socialist society might say they have the right to government healthcare; in a capitalist society they may say that one has the right to buy healthcare. For that reason, we should list only the most essential rights, and ensure that there is a catch-all-others section."

The Speaker of the House rises after the comment made by Mr. Goldwaters.

"Thank you very much to my Right Honorable Colleague for sharing his views on this Bill. Certainly, his input, and that of others concerning his points are absolutely valued and highly regard by this House, however I must give the Right Honorable Member from the Greater Nordic Federation a chance to respond to opinions made by the Right Honorable Member from Nova-Canada and myself as I feel the Right Honorable Members brings up a completely different issue. I assure the Right Honorable Member from Our Governator and any who wish to rise to his point of debate will be given apt time for discussion and debate after his response."

Still standing, the Speaker takes a small sip of a glass of water and ruffles through his papers. After a few seconds, he moves to address the House.

"The Chair recognizes the Right Honorable Member from the Greater Nordic Federation."

The Speaker sits down and rest confortably in his chair. He patiently waits for a response to be made by Mr. Bystrom.

[The Greater Nordic Federation]

Richard Goldwater stands. "Members of the house, we don't get to pick and choose what is a right and what isn't. Does one have the right to healthcare? One in a socialist society might say they have the right to government healthcare; in a capitalist society they may say that one has the right to buy healthcare. For that reason, we should list only the most essential rights, and ensure that there is a catch-all-others section."

The Speaker of the House rises after the comment made by Mr. Goldwaters.

"Thank you very much to my Right Honorable Colleague for sharing his views on this Bill. Certainly, his input, and that of others concerning his points are absolutely valued and highly regard by this House, however I must give the Right Honorable Member from the Greater Nordic Federation a chance to respond to opinions made by the Right Honorable Member from Nova-Canada and myself as I feel the Right Honorable Members brings up a completely different issue. I assure the Right Honorable Member from Our Governator and any who wish to rise to his point of debate will be given apt time for discussion and debate after his response."

Still standing, the Speaker takes a small sip of a glass of water and ruffles through his papers. After a few seconds, he moves to address the House.

"The Chair recognizes the Right Honorable Member from the Greater Nordic Federation."

The Speaker sits down and rest confortably in his chair. He patiently waits for a response to be made by Mr. Bystrom.

Byström stands, "Thank you The Right Honorable Walden the Second, My Right Honorable Friend LeBlanc for bringing up this point. I agree as well on his points. These are all valid. For the Right to firearms isn't required and the Right to protest peacefully is true too." Byström sits back down.

[Aquatur]

"Thank you, my Right Honorable colleague for responding and I would now assume he has amended such sections to reflect such thoughts. I would also like to bring up my point,

"The suspension of rights and liberties by the North American Federation found in Section VII. The Speakers views- These Rights and Liberties are no longer Rights or Liberties when they are subject to the 'approval' of any government. Therefore, I would like to amend such section be read as follows, "The North American Federation, nor any State within the North American Federation, shall take away or deprive any citizen of their Liberties and Rights."

As well as my proposed amendment for Section V to include, "Never may a person be subjected to double jeopardy nor self-incrimination, in addition the citizens have a right to a speedy trial, Trial by an impartial jury, and compel witnesses and counsel to appear in court. In addition, no person be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

[Aquatur]

"Right Honorable Members, I must, under House Rules Article D Section 1, 'All appointments listed in the Constitution requiring advice and or consent of Parliament shall take precedence over any bill currently being considered by the House,' postpone any and all debate on the bill currently before the House until such time in which enough time has been properly allocated for debate on this next motion. Right Honorable Members, I must move that this House consider the chosen candidate by the President, Jeanne Leblanc, for the office of Prime Minister. Do I hear a second?"

[Our Governator]

"Right Honorable Members, I must, under House Rules Article D Section 1, 'All appointments listed in the Constitution requiring advice and or consent of Parliament shall take precedence over any bill currently being considered by the House,' postpone any and all debate on the bill currently before the House until such time in which enough time has been properly allocated for debate on this next motion. Right Honorable Members, I must move that this House consider the chosen candidate by the President, Jeanne Leblanc, for the office of Prime Minister. Do I hear a second?"

Richard Goldwater stands. "I second."

[Aquatur]

"Right Honorable Members, the motion has been moved and seconded. Therefore I will now open the floor for any debate. I shall also remind Right Honorable Members that this nomination does not require a second however Right Honorable Members may show their support if they wish in the form of a second or other comments."

[Our Governator]

Richard Goldwater stands, holding a piece of paper in his right hand. "Mister Speaker, I stand in favor of the appointment," he holds up the paper. "I will read this letter from President Greenberg explaining his appointment." Goldwater adjusts his glasses, holds the paper in both hands, and begins reading. ""I chose my nominee because I believe that the representative from Nova Canada is the most qualified to carry out the goals of this government, including creating a budget, a tax code, encouraging free trade, building a national defense, and securing prosperity for the citizens across the federation.""

Mr. Goldwater allows the paper to move down to his side, removing his left hand from the paper. "Mister speaker, I yield.", he sits.

[Aquatur]

"Is the House ready for the question?"

[Aquatur]

"The Question is the House Approve this candidate, Jeanne Leblanc, for Prime Minister. All those in favor say 'Aye'. All those of the Contrary say 'Nay'. This candidate requires four aye votes (majority) to pass. I shall allow for voting period of 36 hours."

[Our Governator]

"Aye."

[Nova-Canada]

"Aye"

[Amazono]

Hay! Said out load by Eduardo Lopes. Well I have something to say about this! He sat down at his seat. I join dis federation for many things. One of dos things is to protect my people. I didn't know about dis vote when I join this federation. Now I have some mix feelings right about know. His face getting red. Well I will vote for Grater Nordic Federation. Because he makes the region stable. You don't know the troubles of my nation.

[Aquatur]

"The gentlemen's statement is irrelevant and his vote null as the question is on approval of Jeanne Leblanc as Prime Minister. Additionally, only members of Parliament may vote here. Please refrain from making any more comments.

Members of Parliament, the number of votes now required is five with the joining of Aethernian Representative William Bruce II...

Majority vote is now back to four with the removal of James Hamilton. "

[Aethernia]

*straightening his glasses* I say Aye!