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[Singaporean Transhumans]

Not quite.

PLAYER's forces have our seemingly endless multiversal reserves.

The Aleph Division will see deployment in the later stages of this engagement.
Now we can justify collapsing an entire dimension on things.

Let us just hope that the Harmonists don't get RPd as too OP.

[Atomic Utopia]

Not quite.

PLAYER's forces have our seemingly endless multiversal reserves.

The Aleph Division will see deployment in the later stages of this engagement.
Now we can justify collapsing an entire dimension on things.

And I can justify sending in millions upon millions of troops into the region. This will be one hell of an invasion and one hell of a pile of corpses on my side.

"For every hero commemorated, a thousand martyrs die, unmourned and unremembered."
-Warhammer 40K (one of the soft sci-fi things I like)

[Tinfect]

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Let us just hope that the Harmonists don't get RPd as too OP.

Perhaps, but just look at our Coalition;
The Archailects, Trans-Sapient Artificial Intelligence that can render our Fleets practically invulnerable to conventional weapons.
The Imperium, powerful, if small, and somewhat young, Interstellar Empire that has made a living on Genocidal Imperialism, and Stealing tech from Archailects.
[Insert AU's IC Name Here] Nuclear Powered fucking everything.
Whatever the hell Stormwrath has lined up.
Excidium Planetis, the Nomadic Space Fleet with dozens of 2 Kilometer Dreadnoughts to deploy for this engagement (est.). Not to mention whatever else they bring with them.
Deminis, a new, and fairly weak civilization that is about to be uplifted by the Imperium.

I think we have a fair chance of beating back the PLAYER forces.

[New Frenco Empire]

Are you implying hard scifi isn't anything but WWI/II with lasers (with space combat stuck in the 1700s)?

No, I am implying that soft scifi tends towards being nothing but modern warfare on a galactic level. Often when I read a soft scifi book or watch a soft scifi movie it tends towards being just like modern warfare.

Exactly. Modern warfare revolves around precision and surgical engagements. There is no reason to not believe that combat will only get more precise and practical. There is no reason to believe that mechs and hovering tanks will replace a treaded tank or that lasers will replace the bullet. I also find that missiles take a backseat in the harder stuff, while they should realistically be the center of anything. The harder stuff (which we really are using in the wrong sense. I, Robot or 2001: A Space Odyssey would be an example of hard Scifi, while 1984 or Fahrenheit 451 is soft), like Star Wars or 40K tends to revolve around "coolness" more than any kind of practicality. Softer stuff, like Crysis or EndWar (I can only really think of video games that capture what I'm talking about), captures a much better picture of what would reasonably work in the future.

But yeah. Off topic.

[Allancia]

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Let us just hope that the Harmonists don't get RPd as too OP.

Perhaps, but just look at our Coalition;
The Archailects, Trans-Sapient Artificial Intelligence that can render our Fleets practically invulnerable to conventional weapons.
The Imperium, powerful, if small, and somewhat young, Interstellar Empire that has made a living on Genocidal Imperialism, and Stealing tech from Archailects.
[Insert AU's IC Name Here] Nuclear Powered fucking everything.
Whatever the hell Stormwrath has lined up.
Excidium Planetis, the Nomadic Space Fleet with dozens of 2 Kilometer Dreadnoughts to deploy for this engagement (est.). Not to mention whatever else they bring with them.
Deminis, a new, and fairly weak civilization that is about to be uplifted by the Imperium.

I think we have a fair chance of beating back the PLAYER forces.

Well fuck me. I'm tempted to call in my FFT puppet with quantum calculators so that he can calculate his roasting abilities at any given moment.
I kid. Allancia and our allies are screwed.

[Tinfect]

Well fuck me. I'm tempted to call in my FFT puppet with quantum calculators so that he can calculate his roasting abilities at any given moment.
I kid. Allancia and our allies are screwed.

You could always just join the Winning side...

But it is more about the RP, I suppose, rather than who wins in the end.

[New Frenco Empire]

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Let us just hope that the Harmonists don't get RPd as too OP.

Perhaps, but just look at our Coalition;
The Archailects, Trans-Sapient Artificial Intelligence that can render our Fleets practically invulnerable to conventional weapons.
The Imperium, powerful, if small, and somewhat young, Interstellar Empire that has made a living on Genocidal Imperialism, and Stealing tech from Archailects.
[Insert AU's IC Name Here] Nuclear Powered fucking everything.
Whatever the hell Stormwrath has lined up.
Excidium Planetis, the Nomadic Space Fleet with dozens of 2 Kilometer Dreadnoughts to deploy for this engagement (est.). Not to mention whatever else they bring with them.
Deminis, a new, and fairly weak civilization that is about to be uplifted by the Imperium.

I think we have a fair chance of beating back the PLAYER forces.

I really wanted to keep this PMT for me, but I might just have to switch to FT for this particular RP...

[Atomic Utopia]

The Aleph Division will see deployment in the later stages of this engagement.
Now we can justify collapsing an entire dimension on things.

Let us just hope that the Harmonists don't get RPd as too OP.

Dont worry, I will ensure there is enough infighting to remedy any OPness.

Remember, OPness is all about how the people RP their forces, not how they arm their forces. A single Rambo can be far more OP than an entire legion of nuclear powered death tanks.

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Let us just hope that the Harmonists don't get RPd as too OP.

[Insert AU's IC Name Here] Nuclear Powered fucking everything.

I am thinking of leaving it at just "The United Socialist States of Atomic Utopia" because I am sick and tired of using different names for my empire.

I think we have a fair chance of beating back the PLAYER forces.

Nah. I will fix that for you in the event we are too powerful. Something like a 8 million ton nuclear bomb hitting one of your planets, causing it's engulfment in a ball of nuclear fire of about 2x10^24 some joules (yeah, I motherfucking calculated it) for some suitably contrived reason. If we are to win, we must all agree upon it (especially PTFS), and more importantly it must be fun for all.

And if we do win and attempt to make a satellite state, maybe the people will not like the idea of being lead by an government controlled by other nations? Perhaps what could happen is we "win" and then PTFS has the people rebel and our fleets are defeated due to some reason.

[Singaporean Transhumans]

No, I am implying that soft scifi tends towards being nothing but modern warfare on a galactic level. Often when I read a soft scifi book or watch a soft scifi movie it tends towards being just like modern warfare.

Exactly. Modern warfare revolves around precision and surgical engagements. There is no reason to not believe that combat will only get more precise and practical. There is no reason to believe that mechs and hovering tanks will replace a treaded tank or that lasers will replace the bullet. I also find that missiles take a backseat in the harder stuff, while they should realistically be the center of anything. The harder stuff (which we really are using in the wrong sense. I, Robot or 2001: A Space Odyssey would be an example of hard Scifi, while 1984 or Fahrenheit 451 is soft), like Star Wars or 40K tends to revolve around "coolness" more than any kind of practicality. Softer stuff, like Crysis or EndWar (I can only really think of video games that capture what I'm talking about), captures a much better picture of what would reasonably work in the future.

But yeah. Off topic.

At least I kept a treaded tank.

[Singaporean Transhumans]

Perhaps, but just look at our Coalition;
The Archailects, Trans-Sapient Artificial Intelligence that can render our Fleets practically invulnerable to conventional weapons.
The Imperium, powerful, if small, and somewhat young, Interstellar Empire that has made a living on Genocidal Imperialism, and Stealing tech from Archailects.
[Insert AU's IC Name Here] Nuclear Powered fucking everything.
Whatever the hell Stormwrath has lined up.
Excidium Planetis, the Nomadic Space Fleet with dozens of 2 Kilometer Dreadnoughts to deploy for this engagement (est.). Not to mention whatever else they bring with them.
Deminis, a new, and fairly weak civilization that is about to be uplifted by the Imperium.

I think we have a fair chance of beating back the PLAYER forces.

I really wanted to keep this PMT for me, but I might just have to switch to FT for this particular RP...

especially when nexum is around

[Tinfect]

Nah. I will fix that for you in the event we are too powerful. Something like a 8 million ton nuclear bomb hitting one of your planets, causing it's engulfment in a ball of nuclear fire of about 2x10^24 some joules (yeah, I motherfucking calculated it) for some suitably contrived reason.

I'd like to see it get past our Border Defense...

If we are to win, we must all agree upon it (especially PTFS), and more importantly it must be fun for all.

Of course.

And if we do win and attempt to make a satellite state, maybe the people will not like the idea of being lead by an government controlled by other nations? Perhaps what could happen is we "win" and then PTFS has the people rebel and our fleets are defeated due to some reason.

By the time they realize they are a Puppet State, it would logically be much too late for any rebellion of theirs to work out...

[Atomic Utopia]

Nah. I will fix that for you in the event we are too powerful. Something like a 8 million ton nuclear bomb hitting one of your planets, causing it's engulfment in a ball of nuclear fire of about 2x10^24 some joules (yeah, I motherfucking calculated it) for some suitably contrived reason.

I'd like to see it get past our Border Defense...

Use a warp drive so that they cannot see in the bubble (nor can it see outside of the bubble) get it close to one of your worlds, have it get closer to it using it's main drive, and then see it go boom.

That is assuming you agree to one of your planets disappearing in a ball of nuclear fire.

[Tinfect]

We should stop spamming and discuss the plot routine...seriously ppl...

Well, the overall for the Harmonist Coalition seems to be ready, what's the rest of y'all's excuse?

[Singaporean Transhumans]

All we need is for Tecton to report, Blak and Nexum to report their routines and then I'll write the IC OP.

[New Frenco Empire]

All we need is for Tecton to report, Blak and Nexum to report their routines and then I'll write the IC OP.

Hopefully PLAYER will realize that Purity is best affinity.

[Singaporean Transhumans]

All we need is for Tecton to report, Blak and Nexum to report their routines and then I'll write the IC OP.

Hopefully PLAYER will realize that Purity is best affinity.

No, Supremacy is!

Let our ANGELs bless you with mechanical goodness!

[The Transcended Darkness]

Hopefully PLAYER will realize that Purity is best affinity.

No, Supremacy is!

Let our ANGELs bless you with mechanical goodness!

I have always liked the SABR myself.

So, I am ready to support the Supremacists.

[Excidium Planetis]

Use a warp drive so that they cannot see in the bubble (nor can it see outside of the bubble) get it close to one of your worlds, have it get closer to it using it's main drive, and then see it go boom.

The Imperial Border is a region of extremely warped space, that leads to various Shield Worlds, on the surface of this warped region of space. If you were to enter the Warped Region, you would be redirected to a Shield World, and unable to leave until we open the path to the Imperial Interior Territories.

And a headcrab shell comes down the sky...
In Lambda Wars (RTS adaption of HL2), the headcrab shell is so freakin' OP. I heard a Chinese player complaining he can't even get his troops out of his base and the shells already smashed them to smithereens.

And that is why I always play Combine for Lambada Wars.

NFE's FT version's basic battle unit, composed of a bolo tank and a hell lot of troops.

Oh. That does not sound too terrifying.

Wait, so you automatically get redirected to a Shield World if you try to cross the border?

What happens if a Shield world gets blown up?

Also, a better response is using your Enclaves to return the favor. They are about 14 times more powerful than AU's super atom bomb thing.

[Atomic Utopia]

Look, let's stop this threadjack of "Hard scifi versus soft scifi" and either make a thread for it in arts and fiction or just agree to shut up about it. I admit, I did cause it, but I am also stopping the threadjack so we can get down to the *serious* business of planning how each of our teams will enter combat.

But yeah, I think I might go to war with Tinfect because the hamonist coalition seems too big right now, meaning that the amount of war in this RP will be less than is needed.

[New Frenco Empire]

Exactly. Modern warfare revolves around precision and surgical engagements. There is no reason to not believe that combat will only get more precise and practical. There is no reason to believe that mechs and hovering tanks will replace a treaded tank or that lasers will replace the bullet. I also find that missiles take a backseat in the harder stuff, while they should realistically be the center of anything. The harder stuff (which we really are using in the wrong sense. I, Robot or 2001: A Space Odyssey would be an example of hard Scifi, while 1984 or Fahrenheit 451 is soft), like Star Wars or 40K tends to revolve around "coolness" more than any kind of practicality. Softer stuff, like Crysis or EndWar (I can only really think of video games that capture what I'm talking about), captures a much better picture of what would reasonably work in the future.

But yeah. Off topic.

I think you are using "hard sci fi" wrong. Star Wars and 40k are not Hard sci fi. They are soft.

EndWar is Hard.

"Hard Sci fi" is sci fi that falls in or near the realm of realism. Hovertanks are not very realistic. They are soft, not hard. Treads are hard. Mechs could go either way, but most are soft.

You say missiles take a back seat in the harder stuff. But Atomic Utopia and I are both Hard FT (I am admittedly softer than AU) and we both use missiles extensively.

You are right. Engagements would get more precise and practical. But soft sci fi only gets more impractical. Hard sci fi gets more surgical.

You seem to be arguing for Hard FT (Like the UNSC in Halo, Sort of the army in Avatar, etc.), but calling it soft. And you are arguing against soft (Sort of the Covenant from Halo, all of Star Wars, etc.) and calling it hard.

If we're being technical, "hard" and "soft" scifi focuses not on the tech, but the themes (with hard focusing on the technology itself and soft focusing more on other themes while using the tech merely as a backdrop).

But yeah. Whatever. Same principle applies.

Look, let's stop this threadjack of "Hard scifi versus soft scifi" and either make a thread for it in arts and fiction or just agree to shut up about it. I admit, I did cause it, but I am also stopping the threadjack so we can get down to the *serious* business of planning how each of our teams will enter combat.

But yeah, I think I might go to war with Tinfect because the hamonist coalition seems too big right now, meaning that the amount of war in this RP will be less than is needed.

We'll be fine. This thread is pretty much just a second chat thread until everyone's ready to roll, anyway.

[Atomic Utopia]

So I was looking at how to cause civil war in the harmonist coalition for no other reason than to cause some more chaos, and I have came up with options.

-Have some of my troops attack another member of our little club due to a mistake and have that blown way out of proportion
-Have central decide that it would be best to be the sole occupiers of PTFS and then declare war on all others who do not side with them
-Have Excidium's forces find out about the attack on the home fleet while working with my own troops, driving a division through the faction
-My forces determine that for some reason that Tinfect is led by repressed crypto-fascist capitalist pig-dogs and need to be destroyed preemptively

Regardless, Tinfect will not be on my side because it would unbalance the civil war and make the side he and I are on too powerful.

[Tinfect]

-Have some of my troops attack another member of our little club due to a mistake and have that blown way out of proportion
-Have central decide that it would be best to be the sole occupiers of PTFS and then declare war on all others who do not side with them
-Have Excidium's forces find out about the attack on the home fleet while working with my own troops, driving a division through the faction
-My forces determine that for some reason that Tinfect is led by repressed crypto-fascist capitalist pig-dogs and need to be destroyed preemptively

I support options 1, &2 because they make more sense.

Regardless, Tinfect will not be on my side because it would unbalance the civil war and make the side he and I are on too powerful.

Crap.

Wait, so you automatically get redirected to a Shield World if you try to cross the border?

Yep. I thought I mentioned that back in that TG Chain?

What happens if a Shield world gets blown up?

Then you probably took out the Subspace Projector that was keeping Space warped, so you can pretty much tear a massive, indefensible hole in our border, and you can show up at our Core Worlds and only have the Second, Third, and First fleets standing by to obliterate you, rather than a Solar System full of Anti-Orbital Guns, Planets that have had their surfaces replaced with the strongest materials the Imperium can Produce, Batlestations, Defense Platforms, and several dozen Hyperpulse Generators that we can easily reconfigure to fire an intense burst of Radiation to wipe out all life on your ships. Also the Second and Third fleets.

Also, a better response is using your Enclaves to return the favor. They are about 14 times more powerful than AU's super atom bomb thing.

I never wrote an Imperial response to such an act in the first place?
But, yeah, that is pretty much what we'd do.

[Praesidia]

I'll be supporting Overwatch forces in order to protect the Overwatch AI until Praesidian forces are able to acquire information about its programming to help upgrade the Praesidian fleets. So that's my motivation for being here.

[Allancia]

I'll be supporting Overwatch forces in order to protect the Overwatch AI until Praesidian forces are able to acquire information about its programming to help upgrade the Praesidian fleets. So that's my motivation for being here.

That's why anyone is here. We're hoping to bastardize Singapore's technology.

[Excidium Planetis]

-Have some of my troops attack another member of our little club due to a mistake and have that blown way out of proportion
-Have central decide that it would be best to be the sole occupiers of PTFS and then declare war on all others who do not side with them
-Have Excidium's forces find out about the attack on the home fleet while working with my own troops, driving a division through the faction
-My forces determine that for some reason that Tinfect is led by repressed crypto-fascist capitalist pig-dogs and need to be destroyed preemptively

I support options 1, &2 because they make more sense.

Regardless, Tinfect will not be on my side because it would unbalance the civil war and make the side he and I are on too powerful.

Crap.

Wait, so you automatically get redirected to a Shield World if you try to cross the border?

Yep. I thought I mentioned that back in that TG Chain?

What happens if a Shield world gets blown up?

Then you probably took out the Subspace Projector that was keeping Space warped, so you can pretty much tear a massive, indefensible hole in our border, and you can show up at our Core Worlds and only have the Second, Third, and First fleets standing by to obliterate you, rather than a Solar System full of Anti-Orbital Guns, Planets that have had their surfaces replaced with the strongest materials the Imperium can Produce, Batlestations, Defense Platforms, and several dozen Hyperpulse Generators that we can easily reconfigure to fire an intense burst of Radiation to wipe out all life on your ships. Also the Second and Third fleets.

Also, a better response is using your Enclaves to return the favor. They are about 14 times more powerful than AU's super atom bomb thing.

I never wrote an Imperial response to such an act in the first place?
But, yeah, that is pretty much what we'd do.

You probably did, but I didn't remember and I lost all but 3 of your TGs, which gives me only 8 or so messages. People TG spammed me.

Some further questions:
1) Is it 2 way or 1 way? I assume if it were warped space, light traveling across your borders to the Shield worlds could also bounce back and exit outside your borders?
2) If it goes only 1 way, that's a lot of radiation entering the system. Where does it let out?