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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:50 pm

Brytene wrote:
Yeah don't actually answer that or anything. Just cry "strawman" and act like that defeats the question.
Were the gestapo not a state-sponsored group?
Were they not a 'legitimate' organization?

A state-sponsored armed group that will probably kill you anyway has you outnumbered, outgunned and surrounded in hostile territory. Are you obliged to surrender?

No, but that's completely irrelevant for several reasons:
1 - The Brytisc are not Nazis, but well done

CADI are not the Taliban, but what does this prove?

2 - Who said 'obliged to surrender'? We're talking about whether one government body would recognise the other (the Gestapo) as a legitimate government entity or not.

So then any government can recognise another as legitimate, right?

Also, this stems from the root point where I called the Bryt govt. hypocrites for having their embassy staff choose one option, and then getting butthurt the Cuscatlanis choose that same option when it was Brytons who came knocking...
So yeah it's about when do you surrender and when do you choose to die fighting?

Who's government are we talking about here?
Because:
1) The Cuscatlani's never implied that CADI has nor will ever have anywhere near the authority El Caudillo's Junta and it's subsidiaries (police, DINA, military, ect)
2) Wouldn't they want to undermine the legitimacy of your government by

but by allowing a brytisc embassy, cusc recognises the bryt government as legitimate.

Yeah, and they also view CADI as a legitimate organization. So what's your point?

Unless they have some bizarre 'ranking' of legitimacy, then putting one recognised government on the same level as lawless terrorists puts all recognised governments on that level.

> Implying Cuscatlan lists CADI as a terrorist group
> Implying the governments who matter to Cuscatlan care

"non-realism"

lol
:rofl:

Wrong.
They said that the foreign organization CADI and the foreign Bryistic State have the same legal standing in Cuscatlan (i.e. they are all tolerated so long as the junta allows it);

Wrong - that's not how embassies and nation-to-nation politics works lol

It's basically how it works in Cuscatlan.
Inyursta is not that much different except we at least have a portion of people in power who legitimately try to curb CADI and Contré-Rouje's activities and get them disarmed.

So when I back up my claim with valid scientific sources and argued against your deductive fallacy; and you come back with nothing its "going in idiotic circles"?
Is that whats happening here?

Literally whatever you want can be happening here, ten internets to you smh

What?

Is this the closest I will get to you conceding that your character was entirely wrong about the definition of poison?
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Postby Brytene » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:02 pm

"international politics works differently in Cuscatlan" :rofl:

just reply to the thread m8
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Postby Brytene » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:44 pm

Oh now we're done with the 'not naming names' thing and you're clogging up the SACTO thread with your crying? Just reply to the IC mate, or I'll have my guy kill himself and be done with it lol
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:51 pm

Brytene wrote:Oh now we're done with the 'not naming names' thing and you're clogging up the SACTO thread with your crying? Just reply to the IC mate, or I'll have my guy kill himself and be done with it lol

http://www.nationstates.net/page=displa ... #p13665532

I'm also trying to prove a point.
Who is really going to cut military and trade ties with their close allies because they don't acknowledge and/or view some nation none of them really like (minus maybe Flard) as equals to a non-state actor? Really?


It's not French,it's not Spanish,it's Inyurstan
"Inyourfaceistan" refers to my player/user name, "Inyursta" is my IC name. NOT INYURSTAN. IF YOU CALL INYURSTA "INYURSTAN" THEN IT SHOWS THAT YOU CANT READ. Just refer to me as IYF or Stan.

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Postby Brytene » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:52 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=displa ... #p13665532

I'm also trying to prove a point.
Who is really going to cut military and trade ties with their close allies because they don't acknowledge and/or view some nation none of them really like (minus maybe Flard) as equals to a non-state actor? Really?

sorry is your name on that post?

naming names usually involves names

anyone seeing that who doesn't know wtf is going on won't know it's about you, something you should be grateful about

EDIT - now reply IC. The sooner this is over the better and really if you haven't replied IC by the end of today I'll just have him kill himself and you'll lose a valuable asset
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:56 pm

So what's the deal with Captan Haley?
Are we retconning that she somehow knew they were lying about her crew being poisoned?
Are you going to continue to be butthurt when my characters call her stupid for making outrageous implications based off of incorrect understanding of terminology?
???


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Postby Brytene » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:03 pm

Lol how about your original characters just give up in frustration because the world cannot comprehend their genius, and go back to their shelves to await the next time you need some stock characters to deliver one-liners whilst thinking fourth-wall breaking asides?
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:09 pm

Brytene wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:http://www.nationstates.net/page=displa ... #p13665532

I'm also trying to prove a point.
Who is really going to cut military and trade ties with their close allies because they don't acknowledge and/or view some nation none of them really like (minus maybe Flard) as equals to a non-state actor? Really?

sorry is your name on that post?
naming names usually involves names
anyone seeing that who doesn't know wtf is going on won't know it's about you

There, I replaced your named with "XYZ".
Happy?

something you should be grateful about

I'm so grateful my name isn't associated with the guys who didn't get butthurt and cry strawman when you compared them to the Taliban, and those unrealistic fools who imply that nations like Russia are places that exist.
Thank you honorable sir knight.

FYI the attractiveness of some goofy looking blonde with a bad haircut is a matter of subjective opinion and not a solid fact; but thanks for acting as if we are somehow unintelligent or uncooperative because we don't share your taste in women.

EDIT - now reply IC. The sooner this is over the better and really if you haven't replied IC by the end of today I'll just have him kill himself and you'll lose a valuable asset

Let me decide what exactly I want to do with him...


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Postby Brytene » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:20 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:I'm so grateful my name isn't associated with the guys who didn't get butthurt and cry strawman when you compared them to the Taliban, and those unrealistic fools who imply that nations like Russia are places that exist.
Thank you honorable sir knight.

Just what haha

FYI the attractiveness of some goofy looking blonde with a bad haircut is a matter of subjective opinion and not a solid fact; but thanks for acting as if we are somehow unintelligent or uncooperative because we don't share your taste in women.

Right but she's an international movie star, so objectively, a lot of people and a lot of money says you're wrong

Let's be honest, this is kinda as pointless a judgement for you to make as the middle-aged men who sit there talking about which Atomic Kitten they'd sleep with even though they're 50lbs overweight, balding, and boring

Let me decide what exactly I want to do with him...

tick tock m80

better think harder
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:22 pm

Brytene wrote:Lol how about your original characters just give up in frustration because the world cannot comprehend their genius, and go back to their shelves to await the next time you need some stock characters to deliver one-liners whilst thinking fourth-wall breaking asides?

So sorry not every person from a nation of 280mil and another of like 700mil don't have a complex back story.

But seriously, how are we going to resolve this?


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Postby Brytene » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:25 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:So sorry not every person from a nation of 280mil and another of like 700mil don't have a complex back story.

But seriously, how are we going to resolve this?

yeah but i'd expect at least one, you know :lol2:

anyway

like i said

your guys realise they are going round in circles and it's probably just a failure in translation or something, and give up and go away. Sucks to be them, but they drew the short straw and their buddy Agent Fakename has the juicy intelligence officer to interrogate.

And please don't choose now to be a stickler for 'realism' - not after the poopbox diplomacy fiasco.

or tbh do whatever. She's already free and away unharmed, you can't even mutilate or torture her because it's already been established she got back unharmed, so tbh I don't care. If you just feel like arguing till the end of today then go for it, when we're done I'll just kill Mulhern and end it there
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:33 pm

Brytene wrote:yeah but i'd expect at least one, you know :lol2:

Because Vasquez, Nuelle, Peresque, DeLoroza, Ramirez, etc. are such stock characters with no backstory, lol.

your guys realise they are going round in circles and it's probably just a failure in translation or something, and give up and go away. Sucks to be them, but they drew the short straw and their buddy Agent Fakename has the juicy intelligence officer to interrogate.

Wait I thought English was her first language as well...?

And please don't choose now to be a stickler for 'realism' - not after the poopbox diplomacy fiasco.

Lol Mr. Underbarrel flamethrower.

K I'm sorry you believe feces can't fit in a box. Lol.


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Postby Brytene » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:38 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:words

so that's a vote for 'I'd rather argue than interrogate Mulhern' then

k

mulhern is dying
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Postby Brytene » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:43 pm

An explanation of my last post:

No, Mulhern is not the man described on the first page of the thread. As you can see during the 'arrest' post, no actual reference to him being the officer responsible for Saoroules' murder was made, indeed no reference to the case was made at all, other than the narrator's description of Fitzpatrick as a 'paper-white slut' (a charming quote, by the way, one I shall cherish forever) and the fact that Mulhern's 'crimes' were turned up in the course of the investigation, which they were.

His crime was attempting to contact the Inyurstan government in order to give/sell them restricted information - to whit, the personnel roster for the military base the events took place in, the duty log for said base, and standard information regarding R-DARK interrogation procedures. This was his 'playing with SACTO', which got him 'burnt'.

Unfortunately, he approached Fitzpatrick for the roster, since she was the only officer rated for that installation during the time period in question, and promised her money. He had no idea that she was behind the killing, however, and so she stalled him and ratted him out to the investigative team, who had already noticed him poking around and asking questions. He was arrested before he could even attempt to communicate SACTO, taken into custody, and then eventually traded for the prisoners.

So he is a legit R-DARK Major, with a black-and-white beard too. Just not the one you wanted or needed. Sorry! If you want proof this was my plan all along, read the first letter of every sentence in the 'Somewhere in Contwaraburg' paragraph.

PS: As for the corpses, the two civilian aides and the soldiers have not been tampered with at all, other than the injuries they sustained in the attack. The ambassador, however, was thoroughly ransacked, and his body further damaged so that it looks like he simply sustained hideous injuries in the attack and that parts of him were simply obliterated. The evidence is all there, in the state previously described
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Postby Brytene » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:39 pm

btw what make was the armoured car you had under the embassy? if you don't care then i'll just pick a generic South American one, probably an Argentinian make or a Brazilian
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Postby Brytene » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:44 pm

PS if you're not interested in replying i'll just kill mulhern and that's that :) probs later today
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Postby New Aeyariss » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:51 pm

Brytene wrote:PS if you're not interested in replying i'll just kill mulhern and that's that :) probs later today


For your information IYF is at this moment busy. Talked with him minutes ago.

There is no requirement to reply instantly after post is made. Everybody replies when he wants to reply - or when he has time.
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Postby Brytene » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:53 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
Brytene wrote:PS if you're not interested in replying i'll just kill mulhern and that's that :) probs later today


For your information IYF is at this moment busy. Talked with him minutes ago.

There is no requirement to reply instantly after post is made. Everybody replies when he wants to reply - or when he has time.

Oh yes, but an OOC reply takes a matter of seconds. But thanks for the heads-up!
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:55 pm

Brytene wrote:PS if you're not interested in replying i'll just kill mulhern and that's that :) probs later today

Kill if you think that gives you some kind of authority over me.

In fact get off my thread while you're at it.

Good-bye!


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Postby Brytene » Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:39 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:Kill if you think that gives you some kind of authority over me.

In fact get off my thread while you're at it.

Good-bye!

Whoa calm down buddy, it was an offer of convenience, just if you didn't want to RP further, nothing more! :hug:

Holy fuck, you know what I just noticed whilst I was going back through the thread to fix some continuity errors about the Captain/Venetar rank?

I clearly stated that it took hours for the ricin to kick in (plural) and yet somehow you turned that into like 30 minutes, meaning that you could chase and catch the Eftwyrd...it's all in the past now but bad Iny, bad bad Iny!

Image

anyway i know iny's off camping till sunday, i'm travelling too so if by the time I land in a couple days Iny's not responded, I guess we're not playing anymore ;_; if you have any objections to me posting a final 'epilogue' post, just let me know before then. Otherwise, gg! :clap:
Brytene is: centrist, pagan, democratic, free-market
Imperalizt Russia wrote:Being on fire will affect shot placement

Socialist Mercanda wrote:Incumbent Blessed Brytene, who is rumoured to be one of the many lovechildren made by Amin and his 69,420,666 wives has retired and we thank him for his glorious service to this region! Glory!

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