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by Alcase » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:17 am
by Aeuria » Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:43 am
Alcase wrote:President Angela Smith rises, a little confused as to what's being discussed, "Did you mean that we must invest, annually, our Gross National Product into ISARE? or that we must ensure our government funds a Space Agency that will help out in ISARE projects?"
by Mascargo » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:40 pm
The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:Having sat next to the Mascargian delegates, Alexander overheard their boast. He stood up with a smile on his face.
"The Great Warrior Rivers already spends five percent of it's GDP on research. I can reallocate 3 out of the five percent to the program. I would like to see ISARE do amazing things in times to come. For a brighter future!" Alexander seats himself, pleased with his answer. He awaited the surprised looks of the Mascargian leaders.
by The Great Warrior Rivers » Sun Apr 19, 2015 12:48 pm
Mascargo wrote:The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:Having sat next to the Mascargian delegates, Alexander overheard their boast. He stood up with a smile on his face.
"The Great Warrior Rivers already spends five percent of it's GDP on research. I can reallocate 3 out of the five percent to the program. I would like to see ISARE do amazing things in times to come. For a brighter future!" Alexander seats himself, pleased with his answer. He awaited the surprised looks of the Mascargian leaders.
Stanis looked over immediately as Alexander finished. He looked back frantically to Boris. "Did you hear that? Three percent!?"
"Let it go your excellency. It's just a percent, barely matters."
"Nobody is donating more than me Boris."
"We can barely afford-" Stanis cut the president off, standing up again.
"Mascargo would like to change their offer. We will donate four percent of our total GDP to ISARE." He sat back down, ignoring Boris and giving a sly smirk to the GWR diplomat.
by Alcase » Sun Apr 19, 2015 3:03 pm
Aeuria wrote:Alcase wrote:President Angela Smith rises, a little confused as to what's being discussed, "Did you mean that we must invest, annually, our Gross National Product into ISARE? or that we must ensure our government funds a Space Agency that will help out in ISARE projects?"
Aleksander turned to president. "The former," he began. "The proposed model of operations would see ISARE function as an independent, international space agency funded by member states committing a small percentage of their GDP annually to fund its operations. Everything from rocket and satellite launches to deep space telescopes."
by Aeuria » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:12 am
The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:Mascargo wrote:Stanis looked over immediately as Alexander finished. He looked back frantically to Boris. "Did you hear that? Three percent!?"
"Let it go your excellency. It's just a percent, barely matters."
"Nobody is donating more than me Boris."
"We can barely afford-" Stanis cut the president off, standing up again.
"Mascargo would like to change their offer. We will donate four percent of our total GDP to ISARE." He sat back down, ignoring Boris and giving a sly smirk to the GWR diplomat.
Alexander smiled back. Just as expected. Mascargo wanted to show off. Alexander knew that and raised them up one. Now they were spending 4% of their pitiful GDP to send spaceships up into the night sky! It made no difference to Alexander. It was no major change of budget, just a matter of which department the money went to. Alexander knew they couldn't afford that. It's called outspending and now you can't take yourself back for a long, long time without looking like a fool, Alexander thought as he watched the rest of the summit unfold. Let them bleed.
Alcase wrote:"Ah okay," Smith replies, a little shaky, "We already invest a lot of our annual budget into Space, most of which goes into the na -" She pauses for a moment, realizing what she was about to unveil to world, she begins again, a little more stern sounding, "I mean, national space agency. Would it be acceptable to include our own space agency into the ISARE project, fully integrating what we already muster?"
by Alcase » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:47 am
Aeuria wrote:The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:Alexander smiled back. Just as expected. Mascargo wanted to show off. Alexander knew that and raised them up one. Now they were spending 4% of their pitiful GDP to send spaceships up into the night sky! It made no difference to Alexander. It was no major change of budget, just a matter of which department the money went to. Alexander knew they couldn't afford that. It's called outspending and now you can't take yourself back for a long, long time without looking like a fool, Alexander thought as he watched the rest of the summit unfold. Let them bleed.
Emperor Aleksander had to bite his lip from laughing at the scene before him.
Sir Charles leaned over and whispered to him. "If only the taxpayers were so eager to pay their share." he said with a laugh.
Aleksander took a small drag of his cigarette. "You can't fault them for wanting to appear powerful, even if it is a pissing match." he said with a chuckle. "For now, this hall is the world stage."
Sir Charles simply nodded and leaned back in his chair.Alcase wrote:"Ah okay," Smith replies, a little shaky, "We already invest a lot of our annual budget into Space, most of which goes into the na -" She pauses for a moment, realizing what she was about to unveil to world, she begins again, a little more stern sounding, "I mean, national space agency. Would it be acceptable to include our own space agency into the ISARE project, fully integrating what we already muster?"
Aleksander again pulled on his cigarette, the ember reflecting off of his reading glasses, as he considered the president's offer.
As he sat forward, resting his arms on the table, he quickly put out his cigarette. "An interesting proposal, Madame President." he said, blowing the last of the smoke from his lungs. "So long as Alcase contributes its equal share to ISARE, totaling a value being no less than 1% of your GDP, I see no problem with integrating your space agency into ISARE. Of course, when we require a monetary investment from members, Alcase will be expected to provide capital rather than equipment." he finished.
by Mascargo » Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:57 am
by Alcase » Wed Apr 22, 2015 5:41 pm
by Dominion of New England » Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:59 pm
Alcase wrote:President Smith rises, sensing an atmosphere of conclusion, she grabs the opportunity to assert Alcase's own agenda.
"For the maintenance of global peace and security, I propose for this summit the addition of a clause to abolish "secret treaties". What are these, you ask? A secret treaty is one kept entirely between the signatories' respective governments and not known to the global community. Ensuring other nations are aware of international treaties is imperative to the prevention of chaos and escalation of security. Are there any objections on this matter?"
by Friedeck » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:58 pm
by Alcase » Thu Apr 23, 2015 2:06 pm
Dominion of New England wrote:Alcase wrote:President Smith rises, sensing an atmosphere of conclusion, she grabs the opportunity to assert Alcase's own agenda.
"For the maintenance of global peace and security, I propose for this summit the addition of a clause to abolish "secret treaties". What are these, you ask? A secret treaty is one kept entirely between the signatories' respective governments and not known to the global community. Ensuring other nations are aware of international treaties is imperative to the prevention of chaos and escalation of security. Are there any objections on this matter?"
The Diplomats from the Dominion of New England have remained mostly silent throughout the Summit thus far, but the envoy seemed somewhat conflicted at the idea of removing the secrecy of private treaties.
"We do not oppose the idea, but we would like to suggest an amendment to the clause." Spoke one of the diplomats
"The idea of removing the secrecy of international treaties is a good idea, but what of potential problems that could arise because of past treaties between nations? Wouldn't removing the secrecy of treaties potentially jeopardize international relations with other nations whom may be opposed to the deals that were struck? If we are to abolish the forming of secret treaties, we suggest keeping past deals under wraps and secret before a certain date. Possibly the date when the clause may be signed to prevent problems like this from starting."
Friedeck wrote:Volz spoke up. "We require, of course, a definition of 'treaty' for the purpose of any convention to this effect. We can consult the lawyers later, of course, but as far as working language goes, I would suggest a treaty be defined as 'a formal international agreement between two or more governments ratified according to each party's domestic law and holding the force of law.' This would allow signed agreements on things such as specific military operations to remain classified on the terms of the involved parties."
by Aeuria » Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:02 pm
Alcase wrote:President Smith rises, sensing an atmosphere of conclusion, she grabs the opportunity to assert Alcase's own agenda.
"For the maintenance of global peace and security, I propose for this summit the addition of a clause to abolish "secret treaties". What are these, you ask? A secret treaty is one kept entirely between the signatories' respective governments and not known to the global community. Ensuring other nations are aware of international treaties is imperative to the prevention of chaos and escalation of security. Are there any objections on this matter?"
by Friedeck » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:14 am
by Aeuria » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:09 pm
Friedeck wrote:Natalya, after sitting through the space drudgery, was fully alert again.
"Your Majesty, a treaty is an instrument of law, and in free societies, all laws are public. As such, the contents of treaties should not be classified. Friedeck does support the right of states to classify sensitive information, but such information would generally not appear in a legal instrument."
by Mascargo » Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:27 pm
Aeuria wrote:Aleksander began laughing uncontrollably at the Friedeckian, which with his lungs full of smoke, resulted in a coughing fit. As the Emperor wiped the tears from his eyes with more laughter, he put down his cigarette.
"Do not presume to impose your definition of a 'free society' upon Aeuria." he said, stifling his laughter. "I will not submit my empire to the standards and values of other nations just so they may monitor the actions of my government!"
Sir Charles laid his hand on Aleksander's arm as he leaned in to whisper. "Sir, taking this position will only arise suspicion amongst the other delegations."
The Emperor waved his hand in dismissal. "Aeuria will make public only the treaties I deem appropriate. I'm not about to sign over my government's right to privacy." he said, all laughter absent from his now stoic face.
by Friedeck » Sat Apr 25, 2015 1:28 am
by Aeuria » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:24 pm
Friedeck wrote:The Friedeckers in the room were visibly uncomfortable with Aleksander's fit of laughter. One aide had already begun drafting a letter demanding an apology on her legal pad.
Natalya had several points floating around in her head that could have been used to support the measure, but silently acknowledged that what Stanis had said was the truth: it would be impossible to detect a secret treaty. The minister had actually made this point to Goldstein back in Wasserschloss, but her instructions were clear: defend any measure that could better guarantee Friedeck's security.
"Have secret laws if you will then, gentlemen, but a ban on secret treaties would do much for global security.
"Consider the working definition I have provided. Under that definition, practically anything, including international agreements, of a legitimately sensitive nature, from plans for joint strikes to trade secrets, would typically not fall under the definition in discussion.
"In fact, the only information considered private that would be likely to fulfill the definition would be secret alliances. Such alliances have no role in the pursuit of international stability, as they distort the world's political landscape and have serious potential to cause unnecessary proxy wars."
by Mascargo » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:18 pm
by Aelturia » Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:31 pm
by The Great Warrior Rivers » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:44 pm
by Mascargo » Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:52 pm
The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:"Ah."
Alexander stood after a long period of silence among the delegates.
"I think we've mostly agreed on ISARE, it's members to be determined, and the publicization of alliances to a certain extent," Alexander searches the eyes in the room for guarantee and then continues, "So I think it's time we brought up the idea we had at the beginning of this progressive summit. No need to get stale over subjects that have been thought out already." Alexander notions to the Aeurian and Alcasian delegates primarily, for being of the most help in coming up with these proposals.
"The organization is primarily to determine international law and settle issues between it's members. A name could be discussed at this time, but, before we go any further, let us make it clear that membership is voluntary and if there are any concerns about national sovereignty between non-members you'd best not bring it up. Rousing trouble is not the purpose of this convention." Alexander adjusts his glasses and looks upon the members of the crowd before him. "Are there any nations interested in being a member of such an organization? I know, for the Riverians, it would be an honor to be allowed entry into this cooperation."
by The Great Warrior Rivers » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:04 pm
Mascargo wrote:The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:"Ah."
Alexander stood after a long period of silence among the delegates.
"I think we've mostly agreed on ISARE, it's members to be determined, and the publicization of alliances to a certain extent," Alexander searches the eyes in the room for guarantee and then continues, "So I think it's time we brought up the idea we had at the beginning of this progressive summit. No need to get stale over subjects that have been thought out already." Alexander notions to the Aeurian and Alcasian delegates primarily, for being of the most help in coming up with these proposals.
"The organization is primarily to determine international law and settle issues between it's members. A name could be discussed at this time, but, before we go any further, let us make it clear that membership is voluntary and if there are any concerns about national sovereignty between non-members you'd best not bring it up. Rousing trouble is not the purpose of this convention." Alexander adjusts his glasses and looks upon the members of the crowd before him. "Are there any nations interested in being a member of such an organization? I know, for the Riverians, it would be an honor to be allowed entry into this cooperation."
Stanis stood up, having taken a large drink from his champagne glass. "Would entry into this international organization preclude membership in other organizations that operate on a international level?"
by Mascargo » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:09 pm
The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:"As long as there are no conflicting issues between the multiple international organizations, I cannot see why a nation shouldn't be able to be a part of such organizations." Alexander says to Stanis, "Does that answer your question?"
by Aeuria » Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:56 pm
The Great Warrior Rivers wrote:"Ah."
Alexander stood after a long period of silence among the delegates.
"I think we've mostly agreed on ISARE, it's members to be determined, and the publicization of alliances to a certain extent," Alexander searches the eyes in the room for guarantee and then continues, "So I think it's time we brought up the idea we had at the beginning of this progressive summit. No need to get stale over subjects that have been thought out already." Alexander notions to the Aeurian and Alcasian delegates primarily, for being of the most help in coming up with these proposals.
"The organization is primarily to determine international law and settle issues between it's members. A name could be discussed at this time, but, before we go any further, let us make it clear that membership is voluntary and if there are any concerns about national sovereignty between non-members you'd best not bring it up. Rousing trouble is not the purpose of this convention." Alexander adjusts his glasses and looks upon the members of the crowd before him. "Are there any nations interested in being a member of such an organization? I know, for the Riverians, it would be an honor to be allowed entry into this cooperation."
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