Aravean Coup OOC Thread

[New Aeyariss]

Guys, calm down.

Every fact if rule was broken will be decided collectively by people involved, with OP having final say (as it is his thread). I am confirming it as Co - OP (Buri given me that title) but it will be purely for moderation purposes.

[Aeyariss]

Chill guys. Enough chance to kill one another in the IC thread.

[New Aeyariss]

Yeah, we already stated that. OP has final say, tough we will always conduct those decisions collectively.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I thought the agreement was that POWs would be returned uninjured?


Good, that'll give me something fun to RP about in the opening stages.


Yes (ICly) and No (OOCly). I'm asking whether we are all ICly going to find it easy to stay within the ROE (for instance, I know most of SACTO ICly doesn't usually abide by POW rights) - would you like a few nations to help make the OOC rules IC rules (by threatening to act as IC arbiters)?

No. I wont recognize you as any authority on if the rules are broken IC or OOC.

Obviously you don't understand me. I shall ask someone else.

Understood, though I still find it problematic ICly, unless you SACTOs plan to agree to the IFC's terms ICly.

Depends. We agreed only on certain rules of war, which are rather general. To be honest it is problematic for me because Nihonese are like Japanese during WWII or North Koreans today, but I will have to halt my bloodthirsty fanatical hordes a bit .

That's why I'm offering to give you an IC reason. Blimey, talk about offering something on a silver platter...

[New Aeyariss]

@Ausitoria: Please specify what IC reason you mean .

[New Carloso]

Prepare your angus.

And you prepare your seriousness; for this can be considered spam.

Seriously?

I'm merely stating for you to prepare for hell. My intent is not malicious I assure.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

@Ausitoria: Please specify what IC reason you mean .

The IC reason would be knowing that Ausitoria would only go to war if you did all those horrible things. Of course, if you don't think it would make much difference, I won't do so.

[Inyourfaceistan]

@Ausitoria: Please specify what IC reason you mean .

The IC reason would be knowing that Ausitoria would only go to war if you did all those horrible things. Of course, if you don't think it would make much difference, I won't do so.

Nobody here is afraid of you and your escalation threats if that's what your trying to get at. I would naturally follow most of the RoE listed here anyways (except I could make a damn good arguement certain unarmed players are actually far more valid targets than the average soldier); but I beleive other members of SACTO are agreeing to it only because a retcon was threatened.

News Flash, your'e not world police, and we don't care.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Why do you think I care whether you care? I'm not talking to you.

[Valaran]

*sighs*

I just woke up to this...

[Inyourfaceistan]

Why do you think I care whether you care? I'm not talking to you.

You're talking to SACTO, and in case you haven't noticed I'm in SACTO.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I'm making an offer open to any members in SACTO involved: there might be some of you who would find it useful to your IC continuity. I don't get quite why you're offended by my making the offer to other people?

[Inyourfaceistan]

I'm making an offer open to any members in SACTO involved: there might be some of you who would find it useful to your IC continuity. I don't get quite why you're offended by my making the offer to other people?

Well I just don't get why we can't just agree to leave at the OOC agreement and just go from there without further discussion about our own seperate reasons and reservations about it.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I never said we couldn't.

[New Aeyariss]

Ausitoria, it is pretty much not like that. Nihonese foreign policy is all about fighting globalism and questioning International Organisations like WA (portrayed by Nihonese propaganda as "The Great Red Oni"). Nihonese government by nature hates all forms of world policing and by nature dislikes your government (Ausitoria is portrayed in Nihon as big evil policeman with enormous baton). Such world policing attempts actually are seen by Nihonese as offensive diplomacy directed at them - and they do not help as Nihonese see it as diplomatic attacks made by your country. So please, do not go that way as Nihonese consider your nation a threat to Nihonese interests already.

On side note, I will be posting soon list of problems I have with Carloso's post. There are some, and I would be very thankful if you read them. Thank you all!

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Thanks for your clarification. While I cannot rewrite Ausitoria's history, I can of course dampen the Ausitorian governments' "world police" sentiment, just as you are so very kindly dampening your governments' "torture enemies" sentiment; for the sake of a workable RP.

[Krjder]

I want to post but......

I won't have enough time.

i'll try to make a post, but it'll probably be up in a couple days. Class and lunch ain't enough time, sorry.

B-but, you're my attack buddy...

[Mizrad]

Also, the rules of engagement:

RULES OF ENGAGEMENT

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* THERE WILL BE NO INTENTIONAL ATTACKS OF CIVILIANS [SUCH AS HIJACKING COMMERCIAL SHIPS OR SHOOTING DOWN AIRLINERS]

* NO KILLING OF NON-COMBATANTS, A COMBATANT IS ANYBODY WHO FIRES A SHOT AGAINST A RIVAL FACTION WITH INTENT TO MAIM OR KILL

* NO NUKES

* NO WMD'S [NBCR]

* NO BREACHING OF NEUTRALITY [FIGHTING IN NEIGHBORING NATIONS]

* NO ATTACKS OUTSIDE OF PRE-SET BOUNDARIES

* YOU MUST FOLLOW ALL PRE-SET GUIDELINES FOR TREATMENT OF PRISONERS

* NO POLITICAL OR OUTSIDE ESCALATION

*THE TERRORIST GROUP [CRG] INVOLVED MUST ABIDE BY THE NO ESCALATION OR FIGHITNG OUTSIDE OF ARAVEA RULE. A NON-COMBATANT IS A PERSON OR PERSONS NOT CARRYING OUT HOSTILE ACTIONS TO EITHER SIDE OF THE WAR. THEY ARE NOT TO BE SHOT UNTIL THEY MEET THE DEFINITION OF A COMBATANT WHICH WAS STATED PREVIOUSLY.

* ANY BREACH OF THESE RULES WILL RESULT IN A BOOT FROM THE RP

I understand the neccesity of this OOC, but ICly wouldn't the bolded sections be uh, problematic?

Considering how much of a pain in the ass it was for me to just get that it better not be.

[New Aeyariss]

@Krjder: just for your information hear me please. Your amount of ships - from what I have seen - is over 280 ships. For reference that is close to actual US Navy's size, but that is not what matters. What matters is that this is the same situation as with Aigenatir. Transporting 280 ships at once + number of Marines WILL BE logistical and financial hell. Keep in mind that each ship needs logistics.

Therefore what I am urging you to do is to decrease your fleet to a reasonable level. Thank you!

[Krjder]

@Krjder: just for your information hear me please. Your amount of ships - from what I have seen - is over 280 ships. For reference that is close to actual US Navy's size, but that is not what matters. What matters is that this is the same situation as with Aigenatir. Transporting 280 ships at once + number of Marines WILL BE logistical and financial hell. Keep in mind that each ship needs logistics.

Therefore what I am urging you to do is to decrease your fleet to a reasonable level. Thank you!

I am larger and richer than the US. I have accounted for logistics, and it's fine. Trust me, should this war get too heavy, I've got a lot more than that to put on the table..

[New Aeyariss]

@Krjder: just for your information hear me please. Your amount of ships - from what I have seen - is over 280 ships. For reference that is close to actual US Navy's size, but that is not what matters. What matters is that this is the same situation as with Aigenatir. Transporting 280 ships at once + number of Marines WILL BE logistical and financial hell. Keep in mind that each ship needs logistics.

Therefore what I am urging you to do is to decrease your fleet to a reasonable level. Thank you!

I am larger and richer than the US. I have accounted for logistics, and it's fine. Trust me, should this war get too heavy, I've got a lot more than that to put on the table..

And I can guarantee you you can not accounted for logistics, because if you did, your fleet would be MUCH smaller. Please explain your logistics to me then .

And by the way if you want to wank, keep in mind that some nations in SACTO tanking part in this intervention (Aeyariss, New Aeyariss, Greater Americania, Romic) have populations that are double yours population. We have much bigger navies that you have, and trust me, you do not want this thread to be turned into wank feast.

[Inyourfaceistan]

@Krjder: just for your information hear me please. Your amount of ships - from what I have seen - is over 280 ships. For reference that is close to actual US Navy's size, but that is not what matters. What matters is that this is the same situation as with Aigenatir. Transporting 280 ships at once + number of Marines WILL BE logistical and financial hell. Keep in mind that each ship needs logistics.

Therefore what I am urging you to do is to decrease your fleet to a reasonable level. Thank you!

I am larger and richer than the US. I have accounted for logistics, and it's fine. Trust me, should this war get too heavy, I've got a lot more than that to put on the table..

Bullshit you are.

And I can create massive earthquakes with my 999,999,999,999,999 man army on the march...

[Krjder]

I am larger and richer than the US. I have accounted for logistics, and it's fine. Trust me, should this war get too heavy, I've got a lot more than that to put on the table..

And I can guarantee you you can not accounted for logistics, because if you did, your fleet would be MUCH smaller. Please explain your logistics to me then .

And by the way if you want to wank, keep in mind that some nations in SACTO tanking part in this intervention have populations that are double yours population. We have much bigger navies that you have, and trust me, you do not want this thread to be turned into wank feast.

I don't RP full pop. Anyway, logistics... Well, I don't really know how to explain it other than the fact that I've got it covered. Each ship has all it's necessary supplies, and Aravea is just out range for my supply ships at Míyaoté, so I can re supply the fleet well. Also, I was called into this because I have a large military, my main use here being to hold/puncture the SACTO lines whilst the smaller nations do what they gotta do. If this wasn't a major war, I would be deploying a mere battle group.

[Krjder]

I am larger and richer than the US. I have accounted for logistics, and it's fine. Trust me, should this war get too heavy, I've got a lot more than that to put on the table..

Bullshit you are.

And I can create massive earthquakes with my 999,999,999,999,999 man army on the march...

I don't have an army that large.

[Valaran]

@Krjder: just for your information hear me please. Your amount of ships - from what I have seen - is over 280 ships. For reference that is close to actual US Navy's size, but that is not what matters. What matters is that this is the same situation as with Aigenatir. Transporting 280 ships at once + number of Marines WILL BE logistical and financial hell. Keep in mind that each ship needs logistics.

Therefore what I am urging you to do is to decrease your fleet to a reasonable level. Thank you!

I am larger and richer than the US. I have accounted for logistics, and it's fine. Trust me, should this war get too heavy, I've got a lot more than that to put on the table..

ok, but the US wouldn't deploy its entire navy to one combat zone.