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Postby New Hayabusa » Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:34 am

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Now that I have your attention...

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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:18 am

I would like to integrate my RP into this mega RP of things

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Republic of Coldwater wrote:I would like to integrate my RP into this mega RP of things

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Postby Vangaziland » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:55 am

Carsodonia wrote:
Vangaziland wrote:I thought the UR thing might not be happening. Or was he Carsodonia just saying that half jokingly?

Maybe the clash involving New Carloso might make sense. We'll seeings play out.

Umm well I'm not to sure...my country has kinda changed its ways...I might just keep helping Versail and intervene with the kvenland proxy war and I might do some other things...Versail already has the best Carsodonian SF assisting them and like 80 bombers and 200 jets xD ...but I might help more depending on how things go down


That's good! No need to force a war. Better to rp what would make sense for your nation.

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Postby Estenia » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:27 am

Curentean Clashes, nao!
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Postby Valaran » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:16 am

Carsodonia wrote:
Vangaziland wrote:I thought the UR thing might not be happening. Or was he Carsodonia just saying that half jokingly?

Maybe the clash involving New Carloso might make sense. We'll seeings play out.

Umm well I'm not to sure...my country has kinda changed its ways...I might just keep helping Versail and intervene with the kvenland proxy war and I might do some other things...Versail already has the best Carsodonian SF assisting them and like 80 bombers and 200 jets xD ...but I might help more depending on how things go down



That's fine, I'll put you down for those instead :)

If anyone/group of someones have any other theatres planned, just say.
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Postby Zunkwentania » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:20 am

Valaran wrote:
Carsodonia wrote:Umm well I'm not to sure...my country has kinda changed its ways...I might just keep helping Versail and intervene with the kvenland proxy war and I might do some other things...Versail already has the best Carsodonian SF assisting them and like 80 bombers and 200 jets xD ...but I might help more depending on how things go down



That's fine, I'll put you down for those instead :)

If anyone/group of someones have any other theatres planned, just say.

Hm... I could host a small separatist group in Zunkwentania if you want.

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Postby Valaran » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:23 am

Zunkwentania wrote:
Valaran wrote:

That's fine, I'll put you down for those instead :)

If anyone/group of someones have any other theatres planned, just say.

Hm... I could host a small separatist group in Zunkwentania if you want.



Oh its not required at all; Its only if people really wanted to have more theatres (tbh this can easily be enough)
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Postby Zunkwentania » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:25 am

Valaran wrote:
Zunkwentania wrote:Hm... I could host a small separatist group in Zunkwentania if you want.



Oh its not required at all; Its only if people really wanted to have more theatres (tbh this can easily be enough)

No, I'd actually like to :D

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Postby Valaran » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:27 am

Zunkwentania wrote:
Valaran wrote:

Oh its not required at all; Its only if people really wanted to have more theatres (tbh this can easily be enough)

No, I'd actually like to :D



Sure, then :)

Any more details; sides, etc?
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Postby Zunkwentania » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:32 am

Valaran wrote:
Zunkwentania wrote:No, I'd actually like to :D



Sure, then :)

Any more details; sides, etc?

Well, it should come late in the war seeing as I might get more access to NS then :p
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Postby Valaran » Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:30 pm

The news thread is heating up - posts from HL, Wolfbenz, Stas, Esty, me

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Also Zunk, I'll add your stuff shortly :)
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Postby Waldriech » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:36 pm

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Postby Valaran » Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:37 pm

Waldriech wrote:Can I join the Collective Security and Cooperation Pact,
I agree to the articles,



I'd ask Brat first :)
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Postby New Hayabusa » Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:03 pm

Carsodonia, 400,000? A bit unrealistic, wouldn't you say? It would take months to transport 400,000 men PLUS APCs and IFVs.
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Postby Carsodonia » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:04 pm

New Hayabusa wrote:Carsodonia, 400,000? A bit unrealistic, wouldn't you say? It would take months to transport 400,000 men PLUS APCs and IFVs.

Yes I would agree thats why the 400,000 are not all leaving at once lol the only ones actually taking off and not all of them will arrive right away of course are the 100,000 to go on the eastern border...I said the 400,000 were mobilized and only the ones heading to the eastern border started to take off which are most likely infantry to arrive before all else. So I'm sorry if I was that unclear.
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Postby New Hayabusa » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:18 pm

Carsodonia wrote:Moscow Times:
Carsodonian Military bases:

The first troops to be sent off are the troops who will be put under Cydonian command and use on the eastern border of Cydonia with Hayabusa. The other 300,000 troops whose specs have not been released yet) will be heading to the northern border with Bratislav in Cydonia where they will set up a FOB at the Manujec airport where the troops will land and be supplyed from, the troops on the eastern border will land at the Tomislav airport and will be supplyed from there.

Troops to be sent to the eastern Front: Time to destination: 15 hours
Carsodonian troops use the GTAR-21/with M203 launcher, H&K compact .45 as a sidearm, and the javelin launcher.
2nd Infantry Army Division - 10,000
3rd Infantry Army Division - 10,000
4th Combined Arms Army Division (Medium Armor) - 10,000
5th Motorised Army Division (Light Armor) -10,000
6th Infantry Army Division - 10,000
7th Cavalry Army Division - 10,000
8th Infantry Army Division - 10,000
9th Infantry Army Division - 10,000
10th Armour Army Division (Heavy Armor) -10,000
11th Armour Army Division (Heavy Armor) -10,000
in these armored devisions will be:
-Tanks: 1,000 Carsodonian made Merkava Mark IV
-AFVs: 5,000 BMP-3m IFVs, BTR-80 APCs, and Infantry Mobility Vehicles
-SPGs: 500
-Artillary: 500
-MLRSs: 500
Air support:
18th Mikoyan MiG-35 Squadron - 140(the 40 are bombers the rest are fighter jets)
20st A-10 Warthog Squadron - 140(same on all)

A few things here.

First off - in regards to your equipment: 1,000 tanks? Thats 1/6 of the entirety of the US vehicular arsenal. 5,000 various APCs? That is pretty close if not more than Russias entire stockpile of APCs - it's WAY too much. 500 artillery pieces, MLRS and SPGs? All for one area? Overpowered, wouldn't you say? And lastly, 140 A-10s, 100 MiGs, and 40 bombers? Come on, really?

Second off - in regards to the transportation methods: To tranport 1,000 tanks and a shit ton of whatever else you had in a mere 15 HOURS from one side of Currente to the other is an utter impossibilty. How are you going to get ALL of that over there anyways? Do you know exactly how much it would cost and how much sheer effort and money it would cost to transport that - A LOT. In addition, such a large movement like that would NOT go unnoticed. My allied nations could easily deny access to their air space and waterspace, and we could intercept everything you have from above and from below.

I suggest you HIGHLY tone down the amount of troops and equipment you are deploying, or increase the deployment time to a few months...

I'm sorry but this is just really unrealistic.
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Postby Carsodonia » Thu Nov 27, 2014 7:31 pm

New Hayodonia wrote:Moscow Times:
Carsodonian Military bases:

The first troops to be sent off are the troops who will be put under Cydonian command and use on the eastern border of Cydonia with Hayabusa. The other 300,000 troops whose specs have not been released yet) will be heading to the northern border with Bratislav in Cydonia where they will set up a FOB at the Manujec airport where the troops will land and be supplyed from, the troops on the eastern border will land at the Tomislav airport and will be supplyed from there.

Troops to be sent to the eastern Front: Time to destination: 15 hours
Carsodonian troops use the GTAR-21/with M203 launcher, H&K compact .45 as a sidearm, and the javelin launcher.
2nd Infantry Army Division - 10,000
3rd Infantry Army Division - 10,000
4th Combined Arms Army Division (Medium Armor) - 10,000
5th Motorised Army Division (Light Armor) -10,000
6th Infantry Army Division - 10,000
7th Cavalry Army Division - 10,000
8th Infantry Army Division - 10,000
9th Infantry Army Division - 10,000
10th Armour Army Division (Heavy Armor) -10,000
11th Armour Army Division (Heavy Armor) -10,000
in these armored devisions will be:
-Tanks: 1,000 Carsodonian made Merkava Mark IV
-AFVs: 5,000 BMP-3m IFVs, BTR-80 APCs, and Infantry Mobility Vehicles
-SPGs: 500
-Artillary: 500
-MLRSs: 500
Air support:
18th Mikoyan MiG-35 Squadron - 140(the 40 are bombers the rest are fighter jets)
20st A-10 Warthog Squadron - 140(same on all)

A few things here.

First off - in regards to your equipment: 1,000 tanks? Thats 1/6 of the entirety of the US vehicular arsenal. 5,000 various APCs? That is pretty close if not more than Russias entire stockpile of APCs - it's WAY too much. 500 artillery pieces, MLRS and SPGs? All for one area? Overpowered, wouldn't you say? And lastly, 140 A-10s, 100 MiGs, and 40 bombers? Come on, really?

Second off - in regards to the transportation methods: To tranport 1,000 tanks and a shit ton of whatever else you had in a mere 15 HOURS from one side of Currente to the other is an utter impossibilty. How are you going to get ALL of that over there anyways? Do you know exactly how much it would cost and how much sheer effort and money it would cost to transport that - A LOT. In addition, such a large movement like that would NOT go unnoticed. My allied nations could easily deny access to their air space and waterspace, and we could intercept everything you have from above and from below.

I suggest you HIGHLY tone down the amount of troops and equipment you are deploying, or increase the deployment time to a few months...

I'm sorry but this is just really unrealistic.[/quote]
Ummm OK there was no reason to flip a tit, the 15 hours was fixed because it was a temporary since I'm confined to my sucky tablet for I don't know how long so I didn't want it to kill itself and I loose all my stuff....second off I have all of Russia's up to date numbers and you are way off the actually have
-Tanks: 15,500
-AFVs: 27,607
-SPGs: 5,990
-Artillary: 4,625
-MLRSs: 3,781
So please... And on aircraft Russia was thinking about invading Ukraine with 200 aircraft and Ukraine is barely a big deal so when you go up against another power it is very smart to use more in my opinion...and they went all going at once! I said the 100,000 have started to take off and I was saying where everything will be going so I can get it out of the way. So next time you wish to call me out please TG me first I would respect that more.
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Postby New Hayabusa » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:41 pm

Alright, you switched it to 2 months, so thats good. But the problem here is Russia is right next to Ukraine (meaning that they can easily transport loads and loads of equipment at a constant rate and with excessive protection), whereas we are on seperate sides of a huge continent (meaning that it can be intercepted or destroyed along the way and you have to evenly distribute protection), so I will be willing to compromise so long as your transportation is open to be attacked by myself or my allies, because in reality - what powerful nation would let all of that get to its destination without any efforts to cut it off?
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Postby Carsodonia » Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:56 pm

New Hayabusa wrote:Alright, you switched it to 2 months, so thats good. But the problem here is Russia is right next to Ukraine (meaning that they can easily transport loads and loads of equipment at a constant rate and with excessive protection), whereas we are on seperate sides of a huge continent (meaning that it can be intercepted or destroyed along the way and you have to evenly distribute protection), so I will be willing to compromise so long as your transportation is open to be attacked by myself or my allies, because in reality - what powerful nation would let all of that get to its destination without any efforts to cut it off?


Aye I agree with you which is why Cydonia were talking about it and the 300,000 won't even go and the 100,000 if and when it arrives it will be split up to the north and east so it won't seem as much when I do that, and to attack my troops will start a world war...my troops are going as peacekeeping troops and they will intervene on our allies side if necessary... That is why I will have a FOB up north and such, since there isn't open declaration of war there would be no reason to attack me or feel threatened...
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Postby New Hayabusa » Thu Nov 27, 2014 9:07 pm

Carsodonia wrote:
New Hayabusa wrote:Alright, you switched it to 2 months, so thats good. But the problem here is Russia is right next to Ukraine (meaning that they can easily transport loads and loads of equipment at a constant rate and with excessive protection), whereas we are on seperate sides of a huge continent (meaning that it can be intercepted or destroyed along the way and you have to evenly distribute protection), so I will be willing to compromise so long as your transportation is open to be attacked by myself or my allies, because in reality - what powerful nation would let all of that get to its destination without any efforts to cut it off?


Aye I agree with you which is why Cydonia were talking about it and the 300,000 won't even go and the 100,000 if and when it arrives it will be split up to the north and east so it won't seem as much when I do that, and to attack my troops will start a world war...my troops are going as peacekeeping troops and they will intervene on our allies side if necessary... That is why I will have a FOB up north and such, since there isn't open declaration of war there would be no reason to attack me or feel threatened...

Right. We have compromise, then. Good luck.
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Postby West Aurelia » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:56 am

Valaran wrote:If anyone/group of someones have any other theatres planned, just say.


Well there's Coldwater's RP:

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Postby Valaran » Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:12 am

West Aurelia wrote:
Valaran wrote:If anyone/group of someones have any other theatres planned, just say.


Well there's Coldwater's RP:

Republic of Coldwater wrote:I would like to integrate my RP into this mega RP of things

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=319053



it was added to the roster yesterday....
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Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Postby United States of Devonta » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:27 pm

Can I join in the Curente Crisis?
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Postby Valaran » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:30 pm

United States Of Devonta wrote:Can I join in the Curente Crisis?



I'm perfectly happy for this to occur. Anyone else have a strong opinion?
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
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Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
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Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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