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Postby Neo-Chicago » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:25 pm

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I am aware you have not received any previous communications from me, or the nation of Neo-Chicago. I would like to notify you, on behalf of the government of Neo-Chicago, that we firmly stand by your decision. I personally urge you to take some measure to prevent "activity" in these prisons that would be unfavorable, especially under these circumstances. We eagerly await the ramifications of this law, and are intrigued to see how it plays out in your nation, so as to consider a similar law in our own great nation. Take precautions and make sure to include an incentive to report citizens breaking this law, as I am aware a little cash usually moves people's lips quickly. Be sure to keep us informed on the situation after this law is enacted.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:26 pm

Ieperithem wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:Because I don't do MT and the few times that I do entertain the notion of doing so, I decide to just go with modern US for simplicity's sake.


What I was saying is that they would too.




The Spokesman, one of the premier federalist think tanks of Ieperithem, has proposed an addendum to the law stating that Burleson allow homosexuals to exit to any nations willing to accept them at any point. The costs of emigration would be paid by the accepting nation in order to discourage abuse of such a program. This would better allow Burleson to maintain and enforce the legislation in the future, as more homosexuals may be born after the 14 day period. The think tank notes that such a modification would both greatly decrease the costs to the Burlesonian prison system and cool the international tension surrounding the bill.

As of October 11, 2014, Ieperithem has endorsed the proposal.





Lazssia wrote:I find it quiet amusing this Republic of Burleson is totally oblivious to the fact that this new legislation of theirs is in direct violation of several articles of international law according to the Word Assembly, of which I might stress, they are member.

It is even more laughable that they try to excuse this flagrant violation of sapient rights, by saying that it is to protect the homosexual community from bigotry and harassment. What utter nonsense! A wound does not heal by simply not looking at it, it has to be treated. If the leaders of Burleson truly cared about their safety queer citizens, then they would educate their people about homosexuality, and discourage bigotry towards it. Locking certain type of people away does not protect them, it puts them at greater risk of harm by labeling them as criminals and outsiders in society.

Honestly, I try to keep an open mind, it is after all, one of my many duties to foster good relations between the United Empire and our neighbors, but sometimes outlanders just baffle me.

-His Imperial Majesty, Emperor Xanthael I Raegan, when asked by a reporter about his thoughts on the Republic of Burleson's new anti-gay legislation.


OOC: I generally assume that the WA is so overloaded with re - checking every nation's statistics every 12 hours that it can't actually enforce any of its high - minded decrees. Makes sense, given that it's not getting very much funding, if any at all.

OOC: Burleson can have whatever he wants, but he said himself his "military" is little more than gun owners anyway.

Besides, it doesn't matter. I only briefly entertained the notion of war with my canon-mate for a laugh.
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Postby Conkerials » Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:32 pm

The Empire heavily denounces your actions as a complete and utter violation of the human rights the people of your nation are entitled to.
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Postby The Imperial Tribe of Chupapola » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:40 pm

Conkerials wrote:The Empire heavily denounces your actions as a complete and utter violation of the human rights the people of your nation are entitled to.

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Postby Gallifrey Secundaria » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:16 am

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From: President Nick Teleno, Republic of Burleson
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Questions have been raised about the conditions of Burlesonian federal prisons and treatment of inmates. As a result of this, Greg Dubott, sheriff of Grace County and former warden of Alachua Federal Prison, has offered to answer questions about the Burlesonian prison system.

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Due to the fact that there is a real danger of violence to future LGBTQ people that will be incarcerated in your nation (This is discounting the ones leaving now.), is it possible that you can make LGBTQ only prisons? Like males and females are often seperated?
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:20 am

Burleson wrote:
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From: President Nick Teleno, Republic of Burleson
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Questions have been raised about the conditions of Burlesonian federal prisons and treatment of inmates. As a result of this, Greg Dubott, sheriff of Grace County and former warden of Alachua Federal Prison, has offered to answer questions about the Burlesonian prison system.

Signed, Nick Teleno
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Postby Levistavia » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:54 am

Senata Populaque Romana wrote:
Gallifrey Secundaria wrote:The problem is that they wouldn't be thrown out in the present scenario (except for the ones who leave during the deal that is currently in place between Lamaredia and Burleson), they would be jailed.

And if you do step in if war does happen due to some circumstance, prepare to be destroyed.


They have time to leave. I'm sure the homosexual beasts can refrain from engaging in any gay activities before they leave the country. If they're too weak-willed, then we wish them the best of luck. However, you're preparing to take on several countries who wish to protect the autonomous republic's decision, I think you'll need to pray a little harder if you want to win.


Clearly not an accurate representation of Rome at all, be it historical or modern.

Besides, the gay/bisexual/transgender men and women born (yes, BORN, that's how homosexuals are created) after this law will still be persecuted for something that is neither wrong nor in their control.

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Postby Levistavia » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:59 am

Dewhurst-Narculis wrote:If Burleson is a WA Member, isn't that state in violation of:

Section 2 of General Assembly Resolution #91, A Convention on Gender, stipulates that "no intersex, transgender or intergender person shall be considered diseased by the sole reason of being intersex, transgender or intergender." Additionally, Section 4 continues by stating that "no intersex, transgender or intergender person shall be forced to choose to fit in any gender." Furthermore, Section 5 concludes that "full recognition shall be given to gender changes & intersex/gender status in international/national personal documents, if they mention gender."

Section 1 of General Assembly Resolution #200, Foreign Marriage Recognition, "Requires every member state to provide every foreign marriage that meets all of the following conditions the same legal recognition as a domestic marriage: The marriage was performed legally under the jurisdiction of a foreign member state, and that marriage remains legally valid in that same foreign member state; The marriage does not violate World Assembly law; and The marriage would be legally valid if it had been performed domestically."

Article 3, Section A of General Assembly Resolution #16, the Sexual Privacy Act, stipulates that "no nation shall enact legislation prohibiting, criminalizing or otherwise regulating sexual acts between consenting individuals when practiced in the privacy of the home, or otherwise away from public exposure."

Article 1, Section A of General Assembly Resolution #35, the Charter of Civil Rights, stipulates that "all inhabitants of member states have the right not to be and indeed must not be discriminated against on grounds including ...sexual orientation or sexual identity."

General Assembly Resolution #15, the Freedom of Marriage Act opens with "CONVINCED that the union of two persons should be equally protected by the State regardless of gender or sexual orientation" then "DETERMINED to further the rights of persons that have been oppressed and discriminated against for ages". Article 3, Section A says that "no State shall restrict the right to enter into such unions to persons of a certain sex or sexual orientation, nor shall they require that they be of the same or different sex.", then b) "No State shall establish different conditions, requirements or effects to unions of persons of the same or different sex."


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Yes, we will be bringing this matter up with the appropriate WA members, I would urge all other member-states to also do this and get worldwide condemnation on this disgusting, barbaric act.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:10 am

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"The Vassenor Ministry of National Defence today confirmed that a pair of RVAF Voyagers departed Santa Jasta air base this morning, bound for the Republic of Burleson. The VMoND also stressed that participation in the airlift did not, in the eyes of the government, constitute an acceptance or consent to what it considers a barbaric law, but rather an act to safeguard those displaced or otherwise affected by it.
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Postby Burleson » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:32 am

Gallifrey Secundaria wrote:
Burleson wrote:
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From: President Nick Teleno, Republic of Burleson
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Questions have been raised about the conditions of Burlesonian federal prisons and treatment of inmates. As a result of this, Greg Dubott, sheriff of Grace County and former warden of Alachua Federal Prison, has offered to answer questions about the Burlesonian prison system.

Signed, Nick Teleno
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Due to the fact that there is a real danger of violence to future LGBTQ people that will be incarcerated in your nation (This is discounting the ones leaving now.), is it possible that you can make LGBTQ only prisons? Like males and females are often seperated?

That would be too expensive and potentially lead to more prison rape.
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Postby Burleson » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:46 pm

Update
All counties in Burleson will hold referendum voting.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:26 pm

Burleson wrote:
Gallifrey Secundaria wrote:Due to the fact that there is a real danger of violence to future LGBTQ people that will be incarcerated in your nation (This is discounting the ones leaving now.), is it possible that you can make LGBTQ only prisons? Like males and females are often seperated?

That would be too expensive and potentially lead to more prison rape.

Because shoving them in there with actual criminals is grade A rape prevention.
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Postby Christo et Ecclesiae » Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:54 pm

Burleson wrote:Update
All counties in Burleson will hold referendum voting.


Christo et Ecclesiae will monitor closely the results of these referendums. Any attempt to tamper with the legitimacy of this vote will sway the Prime President toward violence against your government.

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Postby United States Kingdom » Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:57 pm

Burleson wrote:Update
All counties in Burleson will hold referendum voting.

The USK has sent monitors to monitor closely on the situation to see if anything bad will occur and if they will be attempts at destabilization or to ruin the legal process of the referendum. Any WA country that attempts to interfere with Burleson's internal affairs will be subject to hash treatment form the USK

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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:59 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:
Burleson wrote:Update
All counties in Burleson will hold referendum voting.

The USK has sent monitors to monitor closely on the situation to see if anything bad will occur and if they will be attempts at destabilization or to ruin the legal process of the referendum. Any WA country that attempts to interfere with Burleson's internal affairs will be subject to hash treatment form the USK

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Postby Defwa » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:04 pm

Christopher Thornton, Grand Wizard of Arl, appears in a public address with his two husbands and their assorted husbands.

"The trend of nations recently to target their own populations for oppression based on qualifiers that have no measurable impact on others is sickening. It is even more disgusting to see this coming from a World Assembly member nation in clear violation of half a dozen resolutions. This is a display of an incredible disregard for human rights and a willful hate based ignorance of what homosexuality is. That said, we hope that these extremist views do not accurately reflect the true desires of the people of Burleson.
"I can only guess that representative elections are coming up in Burleson and legislators are begging for attention. A scapegoat for some failure. If Burleson has not already violated their World Assembly guaranteed right of Emigration, Defwa will pay all costs related to bringing potential victims that cannot reach other evacuation points to Defwa where they will subsequently be given citizenship with refugee based welfare status. We understand the pain of fleeing one's home," he calls over one of the men beside him and they stand arm in arm, "But Angelo did it. And we have never been happier."
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Postby Christo et Ecclesiae » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:05 pm

The Prime President also questions how this law will be enforced, if it does pass referendum. How will one actually be "caught in the act"?

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Postby Fezkovia » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:08 pm

The Fezkovian Ministry of Foreign Affairs hereby issues a condemnation of the Burlesonian Republic and hereby places an embargo and travel ban on the nation. All homosexual refugees from Burleson are welcome in our nation.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:10 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
United States Kingdom wrote:The USK has sent monitors to monitor closely on the situation to see if anything bad will occur and if they will be attempts at destabilization or to ruin the legal process of the referendum. Any WA country that attempts to interfere with Burleson's internal affairs will be subject to hash treatment form the USK

I don't see how you can be a problem.

Why don't you actually post something on the rp instead of just making a statement.
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Postby Christo et Ecclesiae » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:32 pm

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Because of your lack of communication to the monitors, PP Tridentina ordered this.

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=219204
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Postby Burleson » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:12 pm

Christo et Ecclesiae wrote:The Prime President also questions how this law will be enforced, if it does pass referendum. How will one actually be "caught in the act"?

The same way drug users are caught.
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Postby Burleson » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:13 pm

Fezkovia wrote:The Fezkovian Ministry of Foreign Affairs hereby issues a condemnation of the Burlesonian Republic and hereby places an embargo and travel ban on the nation. All homosexual refugees from Burleson are welcome in our nation.

If there is a travel ban from Burleson, how are gays going to get into your country? A travel ban would mean the discontinuation of airline service between our nations.
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Postby Burleson » Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:18 pm

Christo et Ecclesiae wrote:

Because of your lack of communication to the monitors, PP Tridentina ordered this.

http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=219204

The referendums will all be held in county court houses of each county. If any further communications are needed between your nations officials, please notify Minister of State, Katherine Lambert.
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Postby Welskerland » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:06 am

The Kingdom of Welskerland commends you for stopping such perversion within your nation, however, even if you did legalize it, we would still hold your respect for sovereignty in very high regard. We hope to establish an alliance in the future.
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Postby Medwedian Democratic Federation » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:09 am

The Medwedian Democratic Federation fully supports this action, and recommends you to increase the minimum punishment for all offences regarding to this law to mandatory death penalty.

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