Libertarian Alliance Summit (IC, LA Only, Open, TG for RSVP)

[Zurkerx]

" I Disagree with the right to bear arms and conceal carry laws however I do agree with the stand your ground laws. Guns in Qubec are legal however it is not a right and people are not allowed to conceal it. We tried to created conceal carry laws in the past however a majority of citizens opposed it." said Tywin

"I completely understand, which is why if we do put it in, we shall make it a basic right maybe even leaving arms out and making it something along the lines of: right to defend oneself with the appropriate equipment as designated by the authorities of said nation."

"I can accept this. As long as national sovereignty is not violated, I'm sure it can work perfectly fine."

"Are such Personal freedoms needed by a Libertarian Coalition? Libertarianism within itself shows such a mannerism"

Delegate Hans than turns his attention to Roskian.

"My friend, you can't have a Constitution without basic rights well, unless you were a dictator with control over his people. I know it sounds redundant but, it's important we settle this. The people of our nations must understand the importance of personal liberties. As you may know, there are several different kinds of Libertarians here. We, the Zurks in particular are Libertarians however, we tend to lean towards the Neo-Libertarian branch of Libertarians. Once we have decided the social side of issues, we can than can proceed to the economic and military issues in this coalition."

[Roski]

"I completely understand, which is why if we do put it in, we shall make it a basic right maybe even leaving arms out and making it something along the lines of: right to defend oneself with the appropriate equipment as designated by the authorities of said nation."

"I can accept this. As long as national sovereignty is not violated, I'm sure it can work perfectly fine."

"Are such Personal freedoms needed by a Libertarian Coalition? Libertarianism within itself shows such a mannerism"

Delegate Hans than turns his attention to Roskian.

"My friend, you can't have a Constitution without basic rights well, unless you were a dictator with control over his people. I know it sounds redundant but, it's important we settle this. The people of our nations must understand the importance of personal liberties. As you may know, there are several different kinds of Libertarians here. We, the Zurks in particular are Libertarians however, we tend to lean towards the Neo-Libertarian branch of Libertarians. Once we have decided the social side of issues, we can than can proceed to the economic and military issues in this coalition."

"Personal Freedoms goes into a national consitution, not an international consitution."

[Zurkerx]

"Personal Freedoms goes into a national consitution, not an international consitution."

"Eh, I suppose so. However, we must have a standing on such issues if this coalition going to have a backbone on the ideology that this coalition believes in. All I will say is as long as one nation does not force ones ideology on another, we should be good here."

[The United Regions]

"Were not going deep into the issue" says Bell, "We are merely putting the basic personal freedom issues into the constitution. Being careful to avoid forcing a specific ideology on other nations"

[Keventle]

Here is how I would like to see it:

A committee of elected members, by all members of the LA.
Chairman: Official representative and overseer of daily activity. Help accept and guide people as well.
Vice Chairman: Does what the chairman does when he/she is away. Also can accept and guide people, when the chairman is online.
Public Relations: Deal with foreign affairs, an overseer of the military (dealing support where needed, and collect donated military equipment) That is if we so chose to have a military.
Internal Relations:Simply oversees regulations and laws are followed...like a moderator for LA.
Judge: Oversees court cases.

When laws come up that need to be voted on, all people vote for them.

[The United Regions]

Here is how I would like to see it:

A committee of elected members, by all members of the LA.
Chairman: Official representative and overseer of daily activity. Help accept and guide people as well.
Vice Chairman: Does what the chairman does when he/she is away. Also can accept and guide people, when the chairman is online.
Public Relations: Deal with foreign affairs, an overseer of the military (dealing support where needed, and collect donated military equipment) That is if we so chose to have a military.
Internal Relations:Simply oversees regulations and laws are followed...like a moderator for LA.
Judge: Oversees court cases.

When laws come up that need to be voted on, all people vote for them.

"Not bad, I assume all positions are democratically elected, by majority vote?
My only suggestion would be that if we do infact get a military that the military commander and foreign affairs minister are two separate roles."

[Qubec]

Here is how I would like to see it:

A committee of elected members, by all members of the LA.
Chairman: Official representative and overseer of daily activity. Help accept and guide people as well.
Vice Chairman: Does what the chairman does when he/she is away. Also can accept and guide people, when the chairman is online.
Public Relations: Deal with foreign affairs, an overseer of the military (dealing support where needed, and collect donated military equipment) That is if we so chose to have a military.
Internal Relations:Simply oversees regulations and laws are followed...like a moderator for LA.
Judge: Oversees court cases.

When laws come up that need to be voted on, all people vote for them.

"I like the idea as long as they are all elected by majority vote. But I also that the Vice Chairman position should be appointed by an elected Chairman."

[Roski]

Constitution of the Libertarian Alliance

Section 1:

"Lets begin by going in order. Section one should be about the government, naturally."

[Chilokver]

OOC: Holy crap, I totally missed this. Could I have a brief summary please, or is this dead?

[Roski]

OOC: Holy crap, I totally missed this. Could I have a brief summary please, or is this dead?

(Bring it to life. We are currently supposed to be discussing Government formation)

[Chilokver]

"Barging into room frantically, President Huynh sits down panting as his personal aide hands him a glass of water.

"Ahh, much better. We are currently discussing government formation correct? After these positions have been elected, what would be their term limits?."

[Qubec]

"Well I think a full term for all positions should be only a few months and that one nation can have up to around two or three terms in one position."

[Roski]

"Well I think a full term for all positions should be only a few months and that one nation can have up to around two or three terms in one position."

"What about term limits? And what about limits of powers?"

[Qubec]

"Well I think a full term for all positions should be only a few months and that one nation can have up to around two or three terms in one position."

"What about term limits? And what about limits of powers?"

"Each nation should have a term limit of three for each position."

[Roski]

"What about term limits? And what about limits of powers?"

"Each nation should have a term limit of three for each position."

"Fair enough.

And what about limits of power? Should we implement a checks and balances field, or should we give said electee complete and unfiddled control of his area?"

[Chilokver]

"Each nation should have a term limit of three for each position."

"Fair enough.

And what about limits of power? Should we implement a checks and balances field, or should we give said electee complete and unfiddled control of his area?"

"I think complete control is fine, but with an option for removal by vote or executive decision if they are incompetent, or heaven forbid, conducting illegal activity." Having finished his glass, the President passed to back to his aide, he refilled it from an chilled jug.

[Zurkerx]

"Fair enough.

And what about limits of power? Should we implement a checks and balances field, or should we give said electee complete and unfiddled control of his area?"

"I think complete control is fine, but with an option for removal by vote or executive decision if they are incompetent, or heaven forbid, conducting illegal activity." Having finished his glass, the President passed to back to his aide, he refilled it from an chilled jug.

Having been quiet, Hans takes in the conversation. He than speaks.

"That is something I can agree with. We need these important positions to be elected, either by a simple majority or a majority. There should be an impeachment process in any case that these people abuse their power. That should also be determined by a vote."

[Qubec]

"I agree. The positions should all be elected and they should have full power, however there should be an impeachment process should things get out of hand"

[Keventle]

I believe a term should be 2 months, thus, one can serve in one position for 1/2 a year (If elected consecutively 3 times). I would further suggest all removal etc. must be brought to voting by a majority of the council members, then voted by the people of LA, by majority.

One can also be impeached through a 3/4 majority to have a vote by the members of LA, Then voted by the members of the council by a majority

(and the one being impeached does not vote, for either case.)

[Chilokver]

I believe a term should be 2 months, thus, one can serve in one position for 1/2 a year (If elected consecutively 3 times). I would further suggest all removal etc. must be brought to voting by a majority of the council members, then voted by the people of LA, by majority.

One can also be impeached through a 3/4 majority to have a vote by the members of LA, Then voted by the members of the council by a majority

(and the one being impeached does not vote, for either case.)

"Hmm, if one is serving well, why limit consecutive terms? Seems to me that if you get voted, people want and like your method of governing. Limiting consecutive terms just goes against that", muses Huynh as he sips the glass.

[Qubec]

"Now that you say that I do agree to no term limits"

[Zurkerx]

"With all of these term limits, I say we have a vote on this. Or, we can compromise. How about two, two month terms and you can't run for a third? However, after two months, they can run for another two terms and so on and so forth."

[Chilokver]

"I say we have month long terms, and the option for continuous reelection", says Huy6nh as he takes another sip of water.

[Roski]

"I say we have month long terms, and the option for continuous reelection", says Huy6nh as he takes another sip of water.

"Such an idea would be agreeable to me"

[Qubec]

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