Internal Troubles- Fascists Rising (CLOSED, OOC)

[Raltirian Denethier]

I'm going to try and post tonight. Were heading out to California tomorrow so today is pretty busy with packing and all that. I'll try to get a response to all fronts, the meeting, the events with the riot, and events on Goran.

Also, just something to think about, Cap, but getting a satellite pass every three minutes is pretty extreme. Given the nature of naval warfare, that is a pretty wild advantage, too. All 65 of your satellites wouldn't be multipurpose platforms. You would have some GPS satellites (US GPS satellites are also fitted with sensors capable of detecting the distinct double flash of a nuclear detonation), another set of radar reconnaissance satellites, say, a set of SIGINT satellites, and a small number of IMINT satellites (photo reconnaissance satellites are large and expensive so you would not likely have a lot).

While in total you might have 65 satellites, it would be a bit of a stretch to claim 65 satellites all capable of multiple relevant recon missions.

[Capisaria]

They're supposed to be slightly more advanced than GPS. My country does have a technological edge, but I'm keeping it to a minimum for this RP. None of these satellites carry any weapons nor can they interface with weapons. This satellite just happens to be making a small pass over the relevant area, its only a nice coincidence, although I could say it was planned weeks in advance.

Point is I just wasn't thorough. I'm not going around with super satellites if that's what you're worrying about.

[Raltirian Denethier]

Why does Capisaria get to assume a technological edge?

Again, even if they are advanced GPS, they don't work the way you seem to want them to. It isn't that I worry about weaponized satellites. I just worry that 3 minutes for a recon pass is a pretty huge advantage that isn't really justified.

[Cyldavia]

They're supposed to be slightly more advanced than GPS. My country does have a technological edge, but I'm keeping it to a minimum for this RP. None of these satellites carry any weapons nor can they interface with weapons. This satellite just happens to be making a small pass over the relevant area, its only a nice coincidence, although I could say it was planned weeks in advance.

Point is I just wasn't thorough. I'm not going around with super satellites if that's what you're worrying about.

Why does Capisaria get to assume a technological edge?

Again, even if they are advanced GPS, they don't work the way you seem to want them to. It isn't that I worry about weaponized satellites. I just worry that 3 minutes for a recon pass is a pretty huge advantage that isn't really justified.

While I don't want to be seen "taking sides", I do agree with RD. I'm not going into the technical details and stuff, but having knowing exactly what Alderann's doing at leaves him with no room to maneuver, nowhere to go as whatever he does, he is still destined to be defeated. Maybe increase the amount of time between each picture, and have some "blind spots"? (my knowledge is limited on satellites)

[Raltirian Denethier]

Yeah, the real issue is the extreme frequency of recon passes.

The source of that issue is the assumption that you can plausibly have satellites that are GPS and reconnaissance satellites rolled into one. In theory, you could have a satellite with lots of different systems, but you would need a bigger satellite and therefore a heavier satellite, and you would need to meet larger power demands. Obviously, mass is a big issue when considering launching objects into orbit, and you need to consider the practicality of systems which can become outdated. Remember, you can scrap old tanks to replace them. You can't really do that with an orbiting satellite. As well, having an all in one satellite would mean any new model would need to have new everything. Having 65 such impractically high end satellites is like saying everyone in your nation drives a McLaren P1 day to day. Yeah, they exist, but that isn't really plausible. Similarly, one such satellite may well be technically plausible. It is not, however, realistic to suppose you would operate a constellation entirely of such satellites.

Consider that you have multiple satellite varieties. Your GPS satellites would be your navigation satellites. You'd have a bunch in order to have a grid across the whole planet where something on the surface is always in a line of communication to multiple orbiting units. GPS satellites orbit higher than LEO, but considerably lower than GSO. Your smaller reconnaissance satellites would be radar and signals intelligence satellites. These are relatively light and compact, since they require only electronic systems. Those are capable of detection using EM signals, like radar or infrared, or by intercepting radio communications. Imaging satellites are large, heavy, and expensive. The cameras onboard these satellites use large mirrors to focus light to form their high resolution images, meaning these cannot be especially small satellites. As such, you would likely only operate a small number of these satellites.

Keep this in mind. You wouldnt have just one kind of multi mission satellite platform.

[Raltirian Denethier]

Also, I apologize, folks. The packing job proved more time consuming than expected. I didn't get to post last night like I wanted, but I've got a post in the pipelines, and while my trip will involve a lot more visiting and not so much down time, I will have to just write a bit here and there as I get a chance. I'll be sure to get the post up as soon as I'm able.

[Capisaria]

You know what? You're right. I'll lower the frequency. Is an hour a good frequency rate?

In response to your quips about the expensieness, my country's space program has been a centerpiece of government spending for decades, and I can dive into a detailed explanation of my domestic economic structure but I doubt you want to hear about it. The government doesn't really make a lot of contracts with private corporations and it owns many its own

I will certainly the frequency. Also I can say the satellites are a multinational effort if it makes more sense.

[Capisaria]

I don't really intend on making them have a big role in this rp

[San Mazer]

You know what? You're right. I'll lower the frequency. Is an hour a good frequency rate?

In response to your quips about the expensiveness, my country's space program has been a centerpiece of government spending for decades, and I can dive into a detailed explanation of my domestic economic structure but I doubt you want to hear about it. The government doesn't really make a lot of contracts with private corporations and it owns many its own

I will certainly the frequency. Also I can say the satellites are a multinational effort if it makes more sense.

Nah, go on. It'd help a lot in understanding the economic side of your country.

[Capisaria]

So like I fully admit my satellites are a bit unrealistic. I won't bring em up again if it makes everyone happy.

Government exerts a huge amount of power in industry so it can make more expensive things for a cheaper price. Its late. I wanna go to bed. I don't want to argue about my economic system.

[Cyldavia]

So like I fully admit my satellites are a bit unrealistic. I won't bring em up again if it makes everyone happy.

Government exerts a huge amount of power in industry so it can make more expensive things for a cheaper price. Its late. I wanna go to bed. I don't want to argue about my economic system.

Okay, thanks. Well, if you've got any spare time, we'd be glad to read about it

[Capisaria]

Sure you would. YOu just wanna criticise it, you capitalists.

[Cyldavia]

Sure you would. YOu just wanna criticise it, you capitalists.

Well, why not? You're free to criticize ours, too. And since Murovanka, my alt, should also be following the same socialist concept in your country (albeit with less political freedoms), I'd love to hear how things are run in your country

[Capisaria]

Capisaria has a largely small level capitalist economy. Individuals are free to trade, buy, and sell as they please so long as their activity is not deemed threatening to the rest of society.

The overall concept is that the benefit of the collective nation is more important than the profit of a few individuals. As such, banks offer better interest rates on savings accounts, businesses must pay all workers living wages. If the 2008 financial crisis had happened and my government was in control, there would have been criminal prosecution of the people who made the decisions that lead to the meltdown (credit-default swaps, etc etc).

[San Mazer]

Everybody alright? No posts for a little while!

[Cyldavia]

Everybody alright? No posts for a little while!

Yup yup, writing the next right now. Hope Serder and RD post soon, though.

[Cyldavia]

As for the Battle of Goran, I'm not sure about that as RD hasn't said much about it up to now. I think we can assume that with the capture of a vital airfield, he has been able to land even more troops and is on the verge of securing the entire island. What do you guys think?

[Capisaria]

I'd like to raise some issues with a supposedly communist/left government being warmly welcomed into a nationalist country.

Muro and Borduria, although I am unaware of what you have planned.

EDIT: Capisaria wants to see this resolved and we want to see a thawing of relations with Murovanka (unless I decide I don't like them). Is there anything we can do with them?

EDIT 2: And of course the elimination of fascism and reinstatement of true free speech.

[Serderistan]

As for the Battle of Goran, I'm not sure about that as RD hasn't said much about it up to now. I think we can assume that with the capture of a vital airfield, he has been able to land even more troops and is on the verge of securing the entire island. What do you guys think?

Well, I'm fine with that. While I would have loved to expand on the actions in Goran, it makes sense and it allows us to keep from getting bogged down.

[Alderann]

Hey guys I'm going to have a post up today. And I've been editing my factbook. You can view the units I have in each army that way it eliminates godmodding. Also if you all think that my units may be too big or such I would greatly appreciate your input. Thank you currently only the 1st army is complete. So view that one and tell me what you think

[Raltirian Denethier]

Hey guys. I'm flying home today. I'll try to get a post up tonight.

[Capisaria]

Alderann the conference that I think you're referring to is of the people in support of the government and against you. Are you even reading this? Or am I missing something?

[Cyldavia]

Alderann the conference that I think you're referring to is of the people in support of the government and against you. Are you even reading this? Or am I missing something?

Yeah, Alderann, keep in mind that the allied "democratic" nations are holding a conference aimed against the fascists. Anyway, Capisaria, would it be OK to led Alderann's ships pass unharmed? It would be good to have some more fascist support on the continent itself.

[Alderann]

Hey guys yeah sorry for the confusion. I know the conference is against the fascist what I was trying to do is get me and the marshal on the same page to strengthen our alliance

[Capisaria]

Capitalisation please.

Okay, I'll need to figure out some way to allow them to pass. Perhaps my nation's position as a Delegate in the WA for my region makes it hard to act in international waters without the WA's approval.