Flemish-Hollander Civil War [MT/IC/Ended]

[Elmerna]

OOC: @ Flanders. Could you please post soon? My entire involvement in this RP hangs on you participating, in response to your fleet attacking mine. Everyone else is on land, and I have no free range in terms of movement here.

[Vivoe]

OOC: Dude you can't take the capital city where 70% of our forces are home to without any resistance, it is going to be another Stalingrad not a walk in and everyone is just okay that they are being taken over by fascists and Nazis. the civilians will fight back as well as the thousands of soldiers stationed there!

OOC: Bruges is my Capital City, not Amsterdam. Although, it IS a city of extreme importance. Everything else, I agree with. The Quick capture of Amsterdam, and it being rigged with explosives is considered a God-Mod, and therefore, it shall be ignore-cannoned, and replaced with a heavy resistance by the Republican Troops.

OOC: I didn't realize, I just checked the map and Bruges is in Belgium haha not that I care all that much, I can accept suspension or reality to a large degree when it comes to nation borders, especially in Nation States.

OOC: @ Flanders. Could you please post soon? My entire involvement in this RP hangs on you participating, in response to your fleet attacking mine. Everyone else is on land, and I have no free range in terms of movement here.

OOC: Flanders is only online for a limited amount of time each day, for my time zone he usually goes offline about 5PM

Once again Vivoean forces are on the move, executing yet another lightning raid which they had started to be known for. Groningen was still a split city with a large portion of Republican and Nazi troops fighting to the death in what would become a house by house, street by street blood bath. The worst part being the soldiers fighting against each other used to be brothers in both camaraderie and blood. The new fascist regime had split families in half pitting siblings against each other in the worst civil war this century had seen.

The two Divisions Vivoe had to field which added to 18, 000 troops were yet again charging forwards with incredible speed that hadn't been seen since Rommel and his "Ghost Division of the 7th Panzers". Having so many troops and so much fire power in such a small area and the close by airbase meant that wherever they went local superiority was assured by default, it was only a matter of time before the fascists started mobilizing a hunting division to destroy them but until then they were marching on Groningen. The town of Emmen had given the troops a night's respite, more than could be said for the poor souls still in Death's scythe at Groningen.

Corporal Kerry rode on the back of a Panther APC, clad in her Versailles Heavy Combat armour with an SR15 in her hands. The fifteen millimetre electronically fired assault rifle punched one hell of a hole in someone and automatic fire was extremely difficult without bracing even with the impact gel in her should pads. The city was ablaze, no doubt it had been since the war began but this was... apocalyptic. The city glowed in flame and pillars of smoke rose hundreds of metres into the sky, truly they were entering dystopia.

The Panther lurched to a halt, this was their stop. From here on out they would be full tactical, wide spread going out to close with and destroy the enemy. It wasn't the firefight she hated, it wasn't the endless driving, it wasn't living off ration packs it was the wait, the slow walk towards the enemy. Searching, waiting, looking for enemy patrols and hoping like hell you found them before they found you because if they did... no, she didn't think about that. She gave her chest plate and sealed helmet a reassuring tap before leaping off the mechanize beast. She had taken a number of hits, they hadn't penetrated the armour thankfully but no doubt the structural integrity was half screwed and another shot might go clean through. Damn, here comes the walking and the waiting and the tired, stressful anxiety that plagued a combatant no matter where they were. Time to kills some Nazi scum.

[Greycoat]

A large greycoateense army of 250,000 troops, 500 leopard 27A+ tanks and 500 mirage planes cross in to aid in the fight agaisnt republic WE SHALL FIGHT AGAISNT THE REPUBLIC. Currently my forces are stationed in a millitary base south of brugge

[Vivoe]

A large greycoateense army of 250,000 troops, 500 leopard 27A+ tanks and 500 mirage planes cross in to aid in the fight agaisnt republic WE SHALL FIGHT AGAISNT THE REPUBLIC. Currently my forces are stationed in a millitary base south of brugge

OOC: I don't mean to be that guy but you haven't read the rules since you are trying to put down forces over 25,000. Judging by the lack of effort you put into the post and that way your troops magically materialized on the battlefield I would say you haven't read the rest of the thread either which I think is pretty essential if you want to join in. Also since you are so familiar with German MBTs you should know that there are only two or three Leopard 2A7+ tanks in existence, try being realistic here. So in conclusion, stop god modding and try putting some actual thought and effort in if you are going to bother at all.

[Organization of the Zodiac Federation]

Absolute Monarchies States of Oz Federation
World Assembly-Oz Peacekeeping missions in Flanders-Holland

To both Flanders-Holland factions
Please reconsidered and settle your differences between of you

World Assembly, Security Council, and Oz Federation has both agree to send larger Humanitarian Peacekeeping Forces and Relief Mission in Flanders-Holland to help and secure innocent civilians and protect the rights of the people to be neutral in this dramatic civil war in the country Oz Federation Imperial Expeditionary force number of 23,500 troops,10,600 armored vehicles battalions, 7,000 air force units,700 naval ship, and 3,600 W.A. Security Forces has being deploy both territories of the both parties in the country we hope both of you respect and obey the Rule of Law (Geneva-Vienna Convention )we will observe the situations in the country.

Sincerely respect ,honor,and gratitude for your time to us
Archduke Neil Francis III Hapsburg Monzon
Crown Prince/Chief Minister of the Oz Federation Government

[Greycoat]

Greycoat has reduced its millitary to 20,000 and is now aiding peace efforts in this region.

[Vivoe]

The Senatorial Body of Vivoe wishes to remind the so called Peacekeeping forces that the World Assembly has no power unless a nation chooses to accept their authority. The Senate should also remind the World Assembly that the destruction and complete elimination of Nazi ideologies is essential if humanity is to ever advance past the genocides of their brethren. For this reason all nations who value human life, their citizens and the right to safety for their civilians should immediately take action against the fascist forces in the region and not attempt to put a wall between two warring alliances, especially when the perpetrator has no previous involvement in the conflict.

Unless the Zodiac Federation wishes risk involvement in a war with Vivoe that their people will not support then the Senate implores you to abandon your ancient and barbaric leadership that you call a monarchy and let the people decide where and when they involve themselves in other's matters. For the time being however it is in your best interest as both a sovereign nation and a World Assembly representative to rethink your strategy of involvement.

The Senate also wants to inform you that invading under the premise of enforcing the Geneva-Vienna convention could only be a viable excuse if you had evidence that it was being abused or ignored. I can assure you that Vivoean troops are not ignoring it since every soldier is at risk of trial and execution should they abuse civilians or POWs. Unfortunately I cannot say the same for the fascist forces that do not undergo the same scrutiny as the elite Vivoean Armed Forces.

OOC: Rethink your numbers that you are sending in, 23, 500 is fine but 10, 600 armoured vehicles is ridiculous. Think about it, an M1A2 Abrams tank has a commander, gunner, driver and loader. Crewing 10, 600 Abrams tanks would require 42, 400 soldiers. Even if your vehicles were autoloading and the commander pulled double duty as the gunner that is still 21, 200 people, that leaves only 2, 300 people to be boots-on-the-ground. That doesn't take into account the 7, 000 aircraft you need, remembering that an F/A 18 Hornet takes two people, pilot and gunner while a support aircraft like a Hercules needs three people, pilot, co-pilot and navigator. That's just to fly by the way, you also need load masters and the man power to load the aircraft with supplies and stuff. Then there are logistics officers to make sure the supplies get there etc etc etc.

OOC: 700 naval ships? Are you serious? Did you even think of how much that would cost for just one day? The United States Navy has only 283 ships and that includes transport ships, supply barges, gun boats, amphibious landing ships and submarines! The amount of supplies you would need in fuel, ammo and food to supply 700 warships for 1 day would destroy a dozen 2nd world countries economies for the next three decades.

OOC: 7, 000 aircraft? What the hell were you thinking? The United States Air Force only has 5, 551 aircraft in service currently and that takes 330, 000 active, 184, 000 civilian and 71, 000 reserve to man! You seriously need to rethink your numbers. Try 23, 500 troops, 100 aircraft, 300 armoured vehicles and 60 ships including landing craft.

OOC: Also, how the hell would you just 'deploy' WA security forces even though there are over two hundred thousand soldiers currently operating in the theater? You would get blown out of the water by both sides navies or shot down by both sides air forces the moment you entered within three hundred kilometres of someone's air or naval combat vehicles. Ahhh, I'm sorry I just can't stand it when someone says they have X million troops and vehicles to just throw around without even thinking of the logistics.

[Elmerna]

Retracted.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

OOC: Elmerna, just because you have the patience of a baby who has wet his diaper doesn't mean that the rest of us do. Think about it. He could be having a family crisis. None of this is his fault. So for you to blame him for that is like me blaming you for the way your toilet flushes in the middle of the night.

IC:

The Fleet didn't wait any longer. They had waited too long for the reply, and the Admiral gave the go ahead to move. As one, the whole fleet, 39 ships in total, sailed out away from the borders of DEN water, and began moving towards the civil war. All the ships were put on high alert because, as it was noted, the Fascists had soldiers already deployed, and might have a small fleet out there somewhere.

The fleet itself began sending out the submarines to scan for enemy ships, as well as patrol boats, which were small, but still had anti ship capabilities. These began scanning, and checking the friendly port for a way to dock. There was the friendly fleet, but because of safety reasons, the subs couldn't give any transmission to let them know they were there.

[Ryrgistan]

March 4th 02:00

During the night the Allied navy moved close to the coast once again, approaching the town of Emden. Some of the men unloaded and infiltrated an industrial park full of warehouses. The small force was able to silently capture the harbor masters building without alerting anyone. Blood was shed, 2 Ryrgistani soldiers were shot in the temple when the night shift made a desperate attempt to defend the building. They were then able to open the loch to allow the transport ships into the harbor to unload the rest of the army and tanks. However it would be near impossible to move military ships unannounced into the harbor and station more destroyers in the water outside it. When the transports finally docked, Aslanbek disembarked, his face proud that no fierce resistance had yet been found. Emden would be Ryrgistan's last stand, if defeat found them once again, then the men had orders to disperse into the countryside in groups of 10-15 and attempt to sabotage and cripple the enemy war machine. But the time for that had not yet come. He ordered for the tanks to be prepared, for any military installations near by to be captured. He wanted AA guns to be seized and manned and defended constantly within the port. All the while a mine layer was attempting to block the entrance to the Eems to keep the allied fleet as safe as it could in the middle of enemy waters. Aslanbek decided it would be best to maintain a camp around the harbour and the industrial park. In the morning they would launch a full scale attack when their camp was properly defended. In the mean time, Aslanbek had small dispatches of men enter the town and lay small explosives around the bridges and main roads through the city. They were to detonate in the morning, to cause extra confusion before the attack.





OOC: I do believe it is possible to station large naval craft so near the coast because the port has some pretty large freight ships docked in it.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

No. Not if they're Fascists. I'm republican, and I have ships stationed nearby. So... If you send a ship there, I'm going to pick it up. Anything within 500 clicks, I'm going to pick it up. That means that your ships? Probably going to be gone before you can even return fire because I have forward submarines and a MISSILE BATTLESHIP.

[Ryrgistan]

OOC: Well we can say it is done. If you also could find the town on a map, you would see that the town is on an inlet and river estuary. So unless your navy is just happens to be floating in the Eems, I feel my allied navy would be able to make it into the estuary without a battle. From your previous posts I understand you navy is still yet to arrive totally in Flanders-Holland and if it has it is near a port with a friendly navy which I am lead to believe is that of Antarticaria, which is based to the south of Amsterdam, not close to Emden.

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

OOC: Dude, no. I have a submarine that scouted there. Also, one of my ALLIES is there, and I followed him in. Do realize that my missiles have ranges of over 320 miles. You're right. It wouldn't be a battle. It would be a slaughter for your ships.

[Ryrgistan]

OOC: Go ahead slaughter them, this only prompts a full scale attack straight away on the town, and then proceeding to occupy it, since my forces clearly do not have the sufficient manpower to survive in the middle of enemy territory, we shall melt away and proceed with scorched earth tactics, burning the town and the countryside, and go ahead, if we are not one force put together, we are many small "terrorist" groups

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

OOC: Then edit your post and stop godmodding.

[Ryrgistan]

OOC: How am I godmodding?! I moved my troops into a town, is that not what happens in a war, no one shot them, hurrah

[Flanders-Holland]

Dear: Goverment Leaders of Flanders-Holland

It has come to the attention of our organizations that your nation is suffering from serious civil unrest something that we hope to end in your nation. We are the leaders of two of Luxa's largest private military organizations and we are here to offer you our servicesin exchange for a small sum of money and the promise of continued business in the future.

Our organization together number nearly 3000 soldiers as well as dozens of advanced weapons that would be unavailable to your smaller regime. With your permission we would be able to deploy to your aid by bolstering your logistical elements and defending your current land allowing you and your government to take back lost areas without fear of counter attack. In addition we are able to function and operate outside of your administration and would be able to engage in operations that may put you at odds with the international community.

In exchange for our services we are asking for 20 million dollars a week plus the promise that if any future conflicts break out in your nation you will rehire us at a reduced rate.

Sincerely: Emerald Crown and Gold Claw

We accept the offer. We need to crush these fascists ASAP, so that Democracy is protected. These Fascists wish to destroy the 200 years of freedom and prosperity, and replace it, with death and oppression, which will be the downfall of Flanders-Holland.

OOC: Ok. Count me out of this RP. This is clearly Flanders-Holland's very first time starting, or at least playing a major roll in an RP. Not to mention these idiots here thinking that military resources grow on trees. As a tip, Flanders, if you're going to be the host of an RP, make sure you can post more than one time a day.

OOC: I agree with the people who think that military resources grow on trees like the Organization of the Zodiac Federation, but no. I played major roles as other nations. I'll revive my other nations, JUST so that you can see what I did with them. I once had to deal with a Colonial RP, that was wars every ten seconds, and was around 50 Pages Long. Also, I need a life. I don't just sit on the computer all day, doing this. I have to go to school, and do homework! I don't have that much time, checking in and out every single second! Elmerna, make sure you have enough patience. Why do you think that ALL HOSTS OF AN RP have to post more than one time a day. When I was running my Colonial RP as a nation called "Great Holy Prussia", I posted less often. Yet, I only had to deal with God-Modders and annoying people. Now, deal with it, and be patient.

Greycoat has reduced its millitary to 20,000 and is now aiding peace efforts in this region.

Absolute Monarchies States of Oz Federation
World Assembly-Oz Peacekeeping missions in Flanders-Holland

To both Flanders-Holland factions
Please reconsidered and settle your differences between of you

World Assembly, Security Council, and Oz Federation has both agree to send larger Humanitarian Peacekeeping Forces and Relief Mission in Flanders-Holland to help and secure innocent civilians and protect the rights of the people to be neutral in this dramatic civil war in the country Oz Federation Imperial Expeditionary force number of 23,500 troops,10,600 armored vehicles battalions, 7,000 air force units,700 naval ship, and 3,600 W.A. Security Forces has being deploy both territories of the both parties in the country we hope both of you respect and obey the Rule of Law (Geneva-Vienna Convention )we will observe the situations in the country.

Sincerely respect ,honor,and gratitude for your time to us
Archduke Neil Francis III Hapsburg Monzon
Crown Prince/Chief Minister of the Oz Federation Government

OOC: No. GET. OUT. OF. MY. RP. In fact, click here on the way out the door.

[Vivoe]

OOC: You guys do realize Emden is inside GERMAN territory right? Also I am going to side with Ryrgistan on this one. If Die erworbenen Namen wanted to engage the fascist fleet then they would have to be positioned outside Leeuwarden and outside of the sandbanks and islands. Should they have been anywhere else then you would have no line of sight to engage them and since Radar works on line of sight (unless you are going to bounce it off the stratosphere, which you can't in this instance because they are within 1000 kilometres) then you wouldn't detect them. Even at the position I named I doubt you would have them exposed long enough to lock, fire and keep the lock until impact. Anyway, let him keep the city, all he did was invade Germany.

Without any aid to Groningen the fascists were crumbling fast, both sides had taken heavy casualties but the new assault by Vivoean forces had given life back to the fight and increased its ferocity. None of the fascist-allied nations were even close to the city and they owned local superiority as well as air superiority. Close air support was dominating the battlefield and it was only a matter of time before all resistance melted away. Once Groningen was secure they would add it to the list of Leeuwarden, Emmen and Emmeloord to safe, republican cities. Once that was done the north would be all but won and the south would soon follow.

[Primordial Luxa]

With that a group of Luxan mercenaries is deploy to Flanders-Holland to help support the government. This group consists of one Headquarter and Headquarters Company, one Mechanized Infantry Battalion, two infantry battalions, one Artillery Battalion, and one support battalion. This mercenary group also comes equipped with an Engineer Company, a signal Company a Military Intelligence Company and an Anti-armor Company. It will take these troops roughly nine days to arrive in one of Flanders-Holland western ports.

[Antarticaria]

Over the horizon due east flies a set of 4 cargo ships inbound on the Antarticarian FOB.

Total Reinforcing supplies include;

Ammo, Food, Various temporary structures such as command tents.

Two Antarticarian light Tanks (check my fact book), and the last plane is filled with a short number of 16 soldiers who after landing will begin supplying our previous occupying military with resources and fortifications along the southern bank of the small inlet which will serve as artillery positions over the Rosenberg area and over the bottom of the City of Naaldwe.

The ships patrol the outside of our harbor with our allied fleet.

[Flanders-Holland]

OOC: You guys do realize Emden is inside GERMAN territory right? Also I am going to side with Ryrgistan on this one. If Die erworbenen Namen wanted to engage the fascist fleet then they would have to be positioned outside Leeuwarden and outside of the sandbanks and islands. Should they have been anywhere else then you would have no line of sight to engage them and since Radar works on line of sight (unless you are going to bounce it off the stratosphere, which you can't in this instance because they are within 1000 kilometres) then you wouldn't detect them. Even at the position I named I doubt you would have them exposed long enough to lock, fire and keep the lock until impact. Anyway, let him keep the city, all he did was invade Germany.

Without any aid to Groningen the fascists were crumbling fast, both sides had taken heavy casualties but the new assault by Vivoean forces had given life back to the fight and increased its ferocity. None of the fascist-allied nations were even close to the city and they owned local superiority as well as air superiority. Close air support was dominating the battlefield and it was only a matter of time before all resistance melted away. Once Groningen was secure they would add it to the list of Leeuwarden, Emmen and Emmeloord to safe, republican cities. Once that was done the north would be all but won and the south would soon follow.

OOC: Emden belongs to Flanders-Holland. Ostfriesland in Flanders-Holland was conquered during King Boudewijn the Wise's rule serving the King of Lotharingia as "Duke" Boudewijn.

[Flanders-Holland]

OOC: Also, did anyone get Utrecht yet?

[Ryrgistan]

March 5th 07:15

As the town of Emden wok up that morning, several explosions shock the town, killing several people. A few minutes later, the tanks rolled into the center of the town. Soldiers filled in from the north, south and west capturing civilians and rounding them up. In an hours time most of the town was controlled by Aslanbek and he had captured all of the residents he could find. They were rounded up and kept under guard in several building in the center of the town. Emden had fallen much easier than Groningen, but Groningen was not that far away. So he had the allied fleet to be prepared to bombard the town and its surroundings at short notice in case of an attack.

[Vivoe]

Without assistance and with communications all but cut off Groningen begins falling one block at a time, small squads of isolated, exhausted and broken fascist troops begin to abandon their posts either to be cut down by their own more fervent comrades or to be greeted by the accepting forces of Vivoe. Over one hundred prisoners were taken in just a few hours and word spread that Vivoean forces would willingly take prisoners and they would be treated with the utmost respect. The core forces of fascists still remained fighting a losing battle but the edges slowly broke away and surrendered.

With ten thousand or more troops involved in Groningen originally the addition of eighteen thousand elite, battle hardened and heavily armoured Vivoean forces of the 33rd Airborne "Falling Lightning" and the 15th Armoured "Stampeding Steel" Divisions tipped the balance wildly in the favour of the Republic. The Vivoean forces were well prepared for a counter attack from the fascists in their rear since military intelligence had notified them of Fascist supporters landing in a port some tens of kilometres away. Even if they did hit the city there was no way they could outnumber or outmaneuver the republican forces.

OOC: Due to Utrecht's proximity to Amsterdam, shouldn't it be under Republican control?

[Greycoat]

The Greycoateense peace army of 20,000 demands the halt of this war. "We can sort this out peacefully no need to waste oil,resources,money, and innocent lives just so you can get what you want. We Greycoat order this war to stop or will have to send extra troops to use force to stop this war. no more innocent lives can be spent on this war. "We will decide who gets which territory" says greycoat minister equinox.