For New Players – The Genesis Program

[Smoya]

I wish I could help teach some people.

But, this is a spectacular idea, and should help our II community a lot.

[Kylarnatia]

How are we to communicate in this whole process? If it does not require me joining another region, then I may just use my primary. If it does, I may still use my primary. Depends.

I think we're communicating through a mix of everything - region message board, forums, IRC etc. - So long as you can access some of these things, you should be fine. :)

I wish I could help teach some people. :(

Just because you're not a Mentor doesn't mean you can't 'teach' people. If you think you've got something that can help, tell us! The worst-case scenario is that it's not helpful, but hey, that's how we all learn: making mistakes and picking ourselves back up. :P

[Zomania]

I'm interested.

[Army Souls]

I'd be interested in this. Seems pretty interesting

[Psycho Cement]

I would be interested too

[Lzherusskia]

This sounds fascinating. I'm up for it.

[Bolstavia]

Count Bolstavia in, if you can! Love to do it

[Aquitayne]

Glad to see something like this taking shape.

I'd be interested in assisting with the mentoring, if at all possible, as well as putting a puppet within the region.

[Kylarnatia]

I'd be interested in assisting with the mentoring, if at all possible, as well as putting a puppet within the region.

Although that's a swell offer, the Mentors and Mods have it covered. That doesn't mean you shouldn't share an idea if you have one, and we will keep your offer in mind, but you're fine. Just take part and have fun. :)

[The IASM]

Excellent.

[Common Territories]

I'd be interested in assisting with the mentoring, if at all possible, as well as putting a puppet within the region.

Although that's a swell offer, the Mentors and Mods have it covered. That doesn't mean you shouldn't share an idea if you have one, and we will keep your offer in mind, but you're fine. Just take part and have fun.

Since you aren't looking for more help, I wont pester, but I'll be here if you guys need help Kyle. As you can remember full well, I had problems long ago that I have learned from (RP and region manners alike); if you and the other mentors need help with anything, I an im sure others are here to help with anything. I'd like to participate in the program/region in any way you need if you ever need help in the future. Except mapping. I think I would get people killed with the maps I make

[The Black Plains]

I'd be interested in assisting with the mentoring, if at all possible, as well as putting a puppet within the region.

Although that's a swell offer, the Mentors and Mods have it covered. That doesn't mean you shouldn't share an idea if you have one, and we will keep your offer in mind, but you're fine. Just take part and have fun.

I have to question this a bit. It's common knowledge that RPing successfully in this community is 40% what you know and 60% who you know. No matter how well these players write upon completing the program, their regions will suffer for a lack of established RPers for them to contact. You have three or four players now who are respected writers in the community, and who likely know plenty of other respected RPers, and who write rather frequently who are offering to become those contacts for these regions. By rebuffing them, I feel that you're crippling any regions that will come out of this. It takes a village to raise a child. You should allow prominent writers in NS to become actively involved even if you don't necessarily need their assistance if for no other reason than to develop the new RPers' contacts. And it costs you absolutely nothing. Not to mention that RolePlayers are a persnickety folk and, though they'd never admit it, when you snub them now you run the risk of them snubbing the graduates of this program out of disdain for their being snubbed.

[Lzherusskia]

Although that's a swell offer, the Mentors and Mods have it covered. That doesn't mean you shouldn't share an idea if you have one, and we will keep your offer in mind, but you're fine. Just take part and have fun.

...Not to mention that RolePlayers are a persnickety folk and, though they'd never admit it, when you snub them now you run the risk of them snubbing the graduates of this program out of disdain for their being snubbed.

Well, if they want to be petty, I wish them good riddance.

[Kylarnatia]

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I never said anything about them not being able to get involved or trying to help. In fact, I said quite the opposite.

Although that's a swell offer, the Mentors and Mods have it covered. That doesn't mean you shouldn't share an idea if you have one, and we will keep your offer in mind, but you're fine. Just take part and have fun. :)

If you'd like me to rephrase my answer, what I'm basically saying is that we're always grateful for people offering their support - and I constantly encourage players to help each other, be they mentor or no - but to make sure this project is run effectively and with little confusion as possible, it'd be best if the straight forward guidance was given by the Mods and the Mentors. Remember, this project is primarily aimed at relatively new players: I think it'd become quite daunting if multiple players started overloading you with information all at once, especially if that information differed on a single subject.

What I'd like to think experienced RPers who take part would do is simply co-mingle with the newer players - socialise and break them in to the community, so to speak. Again, I'm not saying that these players can't say: "In my experience, I've always found that..." (On the contrary, I'd want them to talk about their experiences) - but when it comes down to it, it'd be best if the Mentors and Mods take the initial lead.

Imagine it like a Lecturer/Student relationship - the lecturer gives the student guidance on how to best carry out their studies and a general overview of what they are studying, and then the student goes off independently and carries out their studies, interacting with fellow students and members of the field (in this case, the experienced RPers) alike to make up their own minds.

Does that make sense? :)

[The Black Plains]

Okay, yeah, I misunderstood.

[Jenrak]

For those of you unfamiliar with the forum, you can subscribe to this topic via the 'Subscribe Topic' button at the bottom of the thread. There, you can keep track of updates through the User Control Panel in your subscriptions fairly easily. I'm keeping this open again, and once we get a good idea of the number, I'll craft out an intended schedule, do a roll call, and begin the program.

How are we to communicate in this whole process? If it does not require me joining another region, then I may just use my primary. If it does, I may still use my primary. Depends.

The primary instructions will be sent via telegram, the discussion will be done via IRC, and once entrants get through the setting-up-the-forums phase, the forums will be used as a third means of communication. Both IRC and telegrams will also be explained as a means of communicating with others within a given region. We'll try and ensure as redundant a system of communication as possible, so what you've seen in the IRC will be mentioned or replicated in a forum discussion, but part of this program will be forcing newer players to take full advantage of all communicative options to the best of their ability.

[The greater Vakolicci Haven]

Jenrak/Kyle, I know you're concerned about a lot of people giving information, but if more people want to join the team in a full capacity, isn't that something that should be encouraged?
I've been here since 2009, and am currently in the process of setting up an rp region which is going well (largely because I've done it before,) so I think it would be useful to have more people with actual experience of setting up a region on side, rather than the closed group of mentors (I've no idea how to even become a mentor since I can't find the old thread to see if their was an update.)

[Kylarnatia]

Jenrak/Kyle, I know you're concerned about a lot of people giving information, but if more people want to join the team in a full capacity, isn't that something that should be encouraged?

I've been here since 2009, and am currently in the process of setting up an rp region which is going well (largely because I've done it before,) so I think it would be useful to have more people with actual experience of setting up a region on side, rather than the closed group of mentors (I've no idea how to even become a mentor since I can't find the old thread to see if their was an update.)

I'll say again:

If you'd like me to rephrase my answer, what I'm basically saying is that we're always grateful for people offering their support - and I constantly encourage players to help each other, be they mentor or no - but to make sure this project is run effectively and with little confusion as possible, it'd be best if the straight forward guidance was given by the Mods and the Mentors. Remember, this project is primarily aimed at relatively new players: I think it'd become quite daunting if multiple players started overloading you with information all at once, especially if that information differed on a single subject.

What I'd like to think experienced RPers who take part would do is simply co-mingle with the newer players - socialise and break them in to the community, so to speak. Again, I'm not saying that these players can't say: "In my experience, I've always found that..." (On the contrary, I'd want them to talk about their experiences) - but when it comes down to it, it'd be best if the Mentors and Mods take the initial lead.

Imagine it like a Lecturer/Student relationship - the lecturer gives the student guidance on how to best carry out their studies and a general overview of what they are studying, and then the student goes off independently and carries out their studies, interacting with fellow students and members of the field (in this case, the experienced RPers) alike to make up their own minds.

Does that make sense? :)

So, I'll try and rephrase again - The Mentors and the Mods are only giving these new players the simple, necessary guidance needed to start on their own. After that point, they'll be encouraged to co-mingle with experienced RPers (such as yourself) in order to learn more about the community and how people have done things over the years.

Therefore, at no point is your experience being brushed aside or your points being unconsidered, but for the sake of not overloading our participants at the get go, we'd like to keep them focused on the basics. You're always welcome to pitch in your own ideas and opinions, but we'd already be encouraging them to come and find you.

Still confused? :P

[Nueo Soled]

I'm interested. Better join in while i still can.

[Jenrak]

Jenrak/Kyle, I know you're concerned about a lot of people giving information, but if more people want to join the team in a full capacity, isn't that something that should be encouraged?
I've been here since 2009, and am currently in the process of setting up an rp region which is going well (largely because I've done it before,) so I think it would be useful to have more people with actual experience of setting up a region on side, rather than the closed group of mentors (I've no idea how to even become a mentor since I can't find the old thread to see if their was an update.)

Too many captains will sink a ship.

The Mentors and the Mods can work together to carve a pretty (and relatively) seamless foundation upon which to provide the basics players will need. If problems arise, I can ream them out or get reamed out without anybody being any the wiser since we've a lot of ways to solve issues behind the sales floor of operation. With experienced players, you guys are essentially consultants, so how much control is there is very limited. We don't want experienced players giving mixed messages, since every experience is different and that doesn't help new players as much.

Once we get into more advanced topics and whatnot, experienced players are more than welcomed to provide their input. I'm not against players outside the Mentor sphere to give advice whatsoever, but the basics of the program depend upon a team that is already well acquainted with each other, instead of risking potential major disagreements in the grand plan of operation.

[Naybra]

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Please place me on the list. I'm interested in seeing what this has to offer for my region. We try to revolve around this and these are the topics that we need some smoothing on. I'll draft a better post tomorrow.

[Pac union]

I'm interested. May i join
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[Anzinzar]

I too am interested.

[The Holy Roman Empire WZ]

I'm interested!

[The Republic Of Ardenhelm]

Wish I had this when I started.

agreed