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Bereia
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Postby Bereia » Sun May 05, 2013 9:26 am

Allanea wrote:OOC: What I have in my mind is a generic kit that would be stored and shipped inside its own rough military bag (something like the IDF paratrooper duffel bag). And then you could either ship them to your insurgency group for use in their war, or a government that could store them for use in emergencies, or a retail chain that could sell them.


This actually sounds pretty awesome, not to mention potentially very useful.
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Sun May 05, 2013 10:50 am

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As a comprehensive program of rearmament, modernization and extension of the G.P.H. Navy's warship fleet continues to be underway, a large quantity of older ship classes is being mothballed, making way for new, more sleek developments. Seeking to once again prove our dedication to the causes of CAPINTERN, the Greater Prussian Empire and the liberties that our allies in such stand, we have decided to donate a small quantity of mothballed vessels to the CAPINTERN arsenals, to assist in its peacekeeping, humanitarian and other missions and to be of use to any and all GPE members that should be in need of such.

Donation includes:

x1,000 Parasprite-class Missile Boats
x220 Constitution-class AA Frigates
x100 Reaper-class MCV
x50 Kelpie-class Amphibious Assault Air-Cushioned Craft
x5 Kindness-class Hospital Ships

Transfer signed and approved by:

The Ponies' Chamber (450 signatures omitted)
Right Honourable Bubble Burst, Director of the Navy, Ministry of Defence
Supreme Admiral Coltchak and the Grand Admiralty (125 signatures omitted)
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Commie ponies with guns and such. One of the OG MLP nations, funnily enough I don't care for EaW pretty much at all.

This nation represents the voices in my head.

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Voldoviana
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Postby Voldoviana » Sun May 05, 2013 6:23 pm

Nation name: The Republic of Voldoviana
Views on Capitalism: Traditional Adam Smith style is the best
Nation population: 406 Million
WA Government Classification: Republic
Economic level (WA): Thriving
National political party in power: Republicans (As in, they want a more of a Republic and less of a Democracy)
Current conflicts: None
Donation to CMFOU: 2 Billion per year
Level of membership: Full Member
Additional nations to be submitted under the IPA: None

RP Example: From here onwards
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Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Sun May 05, 2013 6:32 pm

Please understand that the minimum annual donation is 1 billion NSD.
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Voldoviana
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Postby Voldoviana » Sun May 05, 2013 6:35 pm

Allanea wrote:Please understand that the minimum annual donation is 1 billion NSD.

Ah, gotcha, changing that to a billion.

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Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Sun May 05, 2013 6:50 pm

Welcome to CAPINTERN.
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Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Mon May 06, 2013 5:34 am

Official Message from the Capitalist Internationale


We are thankful to our pony allies for their donations. As our first action, we will immediately transfer all five Kindness-class hospital ships to the Greenleaf Imperial Charity. In addition, we are hereby announcing the creation of four storage compounds, each ten square kilometers in size, in the territories of the High Treefolk, Pyrillic Empire, Terradin and the Hobbiest Republic.

Each storage compound will hold, at a minimum, the following armaments:

x100,000 Hellion cruise missiles,
x100,000 Charybdis heavy torpedoes
x100,000 Paveway II bombs
x100,000 R-73 missiles
x100,000 ATACMS missiles
x100,000 Mark 48 ADCAP torpedoes

Most of the storage capacity will be left empty, to be filled with other war materiel as per the needs of CAPINTERN.

Finally, to promote the goals of global capitalism and personal liberty, we are interested in discussing the transfer, to the Pyrillic Empire, of some of the ships that our friends the ponies have donated to us.
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United Earthlings
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Postby United Earthlings » Thu May 09, 2013 10:37 pm

Allanea wrote:Yes, we would be highly interested in purchasing your atomic arsenal.


In advance, we’d like to apologize for our government’s delayed response. That being the case, our government requires further clarification on the matter before terms can be agreed to. Does your interest extend to just the warhead's themselves or to the entire delivery system {warhead's included}?

EX...The majority of our nation's nuclear arsenal is mainly concentrated within our Navy and more to the point our SSBNs. While we are slightly hesitant to part with our ballistic missile subs, we are amendable to parting with our subs especially if the price is right. That just leaves our arsenal of SLBMs and CMs open to discussion.

Our government awaits your response.
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Postby Allanea » Fri May 10, 2013 3:54 am

Official Response from the CAPINTERN Leadership

Either the delivery systems or the warheads alone would be good. Please inform us posthaste of the number and type of systems involved so we could come to a determination on price!
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United Earthlings
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Postby United Earthlings » Fri May 10, 2013 8:44 pm

Classified Report {Unclassified Viewing for CAPINTERN Leadership ONLY}

  • 8 Triomphant Class SSBN mounting sixteen M51 SLBMs with each sub having eight SLBMs armed with six 100Kt WC-100 Mod-2 thermonuclear warheads and eight M51 SLBMs armed with twelve 25 kiloton WC-50 Mod-1 thermonuclear warheads.
  • 4 Borei Class SSBNs mounting sixteen Bulava [RSM-56] SLBMs each also armed with six 100Kt WC-100 Mod-2 thermonuclear warheads
  • 4 Vanguard Class SSBNs mounting sixteen Trident D-5s each armed with twelve 25 kiloton WC-50 Mod-1 thermonuclear warheads.
  • Total SLBM Warheads: 2,304

  • 348 Poseidon-N AShM each armed with one WC-50 Mod-1/2 thermonuclear warhead.
  • 690 AGM-129 ACM (Advanced Cruise Missile) each armed with one WC-50 Mod-1 thermonuclear warhead.
  • 325 WBC-12 Mod-1 is a light weight, intermediate yield JDAM {“bunker busting-ground penetrating”} thermonuclear bomb with variable yield options ("dial-a-yield" or DAY) of 25kT, 50kT, 75kT and 100kT with flexible fusing and delivery options. A two stage radiation implosion weapon designed for high-speed external carriage and low altitude delivery.

Notes: The WC-50 and WC-100 warheads come in two DAY modes, either 25 or 50 kilotons for the WC-50 and 75 or 100 kilotons for the WC-100.


OC: A pretty impressive little nuclear arsenal I do say so myself and as you can see one which would of been very hard to detect and/or prevent thereof launch of. As you can also see, my military switch it's focus to lower yield weapons settling on the 25 kiloton version, which when deployed as an airburst would maximum damage while limiting excessive fallout and while our doctrine may not be compatible with those of other CAPINTERN members, it does offer enhanced tactical flexibility.
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Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Sat May 11, 2013 8:51 am

Official Reply from CAPINTERN leadership:

We will happily offer you a 50-billion grant for this weaponry.

OOC: Yes, we're probably overpaying a big but we have a large budget surplus and would like to help you out with upgrades.
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United Earthlings
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Postby United Earthlings » Sat May 11, 2013 7:34 pm

Your generous offer is accepted.

OC: Two things, first off I've been contributing {paying} this alliance 25 billion dollars annually for years on end and that's on top of only being an observer and not full member, so I ask who's overpaying who now? :p :roll:

Second, I'm assuming that offer includes the transfer of the subs themselves, in addition do note that this transfer of ownership isn't going to be all of a sudden, but a more gradually decade long transfer. I figure this should give my military sufficient time to bring similar weapon capabilities into service while not completely leaving the Commonwealth without a nuclear arsenal all of a sudden should a situation present itself and some semblance of a nuclear response be required.

Say a third of what's listed every three years or so starting now.

Ex: In the first three years-5 of the subs and their corresponding missiles and warheads, 116 of the Poseidon-N AShMs, 230 of the AGM-129 ACMs and 108 of the WBC-12s. Complete transfer completed within 9 or 10 years.

Sound good to you?
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Postby Allanea » Sat May 11, 2013 8:23 pm

OOC: Yes, absolutely.

As for overpaying... go look at your storefront. :D
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Gaveo
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Postby Gaveo » Sat May 11, 2013 8:44 pm

Nation name: The Republic of Gaveo
Views on Capitalism: Positive
Nation population: 1.29 Billion
WA Government Classification: Anarchy (but really isn't)
Economic level (WA): Frightening
National political party in power: Capitalist Freedom Party of Gaveo (CFPG)
Current conflicts: None
Donation to CMFOU: 1.19 Billion NSD a year.
Level of membership: Full member
Additional nations to be submitted under the IPA: Yes?
Bruh.

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Schmiegelland
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Postby Schmiegelland » Sat May 11, 2013 8:54 pm

Nation name: The Smiley Republic of Schmiegelland
Views on Capitalism: Good, better than some other ways.
Nation population: 501 million
WA Government Classification: Democratic Socialists (trying to change from monarchy to full democracy)
Economic level (WA): Struggling
National political party in power: The Democratic Party
Current conflicts: Zanbradia–Rarity War (Eastern Zanbradia Liberation), Urran Costa Cookies War
Donation to CMFOU: $1 billion per year
Level of membership: Full member
Additional nations to be submitted under the IPA: None
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Allanea
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Postby Allanea » Sat May 11, 2013 10:01 pm

OOC: Can you explain what you mean by 'democratic socialist'?
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United Earthlings
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Postby United Earthlings » Sun May 12, 2013 7:18 pm

Allanea wrote:As for overpaying... go look at your storefront. :D


Looked, don't see you overpaying for anything, if anything your underpaying {those massive discounts ring a bell :p}. Besides we have already well established the fact that your math is wonky. Did you not see my footnote?

However, if you don't like paying for things that's fine eventually you'll be able to get it all for free when I send UEMS into the abyss with a GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE.

Allanea wrote:OOC: Can you explain what you mean by 'democratic socialist'?


Wiki says HI, How are you?! :D :rofl: :p

Would be nice to have another market socialism member. Capitalism is so yesterday as in 18th century...yesterday. :roll:
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Postby Allanea » Sun May 12, 2013 7:42 pm

OOC:

WhaT I mean to say.

I'm UEMS' best client.

And when you go out of business... can I bid on the storefront itself?
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Bereia
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Postby Bereia » Sun May 12, 2013 7:46 pm

United Earthlings wrote:Would be nice to have another market socialism member. Capitalism is so yesterday as in 18th century...yesterday. :roll:


(OOC: Yes, because old automatically equals inferior, as we all know. ;)

Also, for anybody interested in potential good reading, here. It's closed, but once it gets rolling it might prove engaging to watch.)




IC:

Official Message from the U.S. State Department

I am pleased to inform you that the U.S. Congress has authorized a permanent tripling of the yearly monetary donation made to this Alliance, effective immediately.

Signed by,
Amaya Tagliaferro, U.S. Secretary of State
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Man exists for his own sake, and not to add a laborer to the State.

Look below for some views of mine and interesting ideas.

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There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. Thank you.

The population of Bereia is presently capped at three hundred and fifty million people. That's enough for now.

Whatsoever, for any cause,
Seeketh to take or give,
Power above or beyond the Laws,
Suffer it not to live!
Holy State or Holy King—
Or Holy People’s Will—
Have no truck with the senseless thing.
Order the guns and kill!

-- Rudyard Kipling, MacDonough's Song, 1917.

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Gorgashia
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Postby Gorgashia » Sun May 12, 2013 8:01 pm

United Earthlings wrote:
Allanea wrote:OOC: Can you explain what you mean by 'democratic socialist'?


Wiki says HI, How are you?! :D :rofl: :p

Would be nice to have another market socialism member. Capitalism is so yesterday as in 18th century...yesterday. :roll:


(OoC: Wait..... Do you guys actually allow Market Socialists in, or is United Earthlings joking here?

Also, Bereia, old doesn't equal inferior, it's just that revolutionary equals better! :p

Also, the WA ranking for 'Democratic Socialism' usually means "Socialists that like a democratic system of government" (which can be Marxist-Leninist) not the decentralization of political and economic power actual Democratic Socialism upholds :geek: ).
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Postby Allanea » Sun May 12, 2013 8:03 pm

(Well, as the wiki points out, it can mean a variety of things.

So the question is open: does he allow for private ownership of the means of production, or?)
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Postby Gorgashia » Sun May 12, 2013 8:08 pm

Wikipedia wrote:Democratic socialists endorse a post-capitalist, socialist economic system as an alternative to capitalism. Some democratic socialists advocate market socialism based on workplace self-management, while others support a non-market system based on decentralized-participatory planning. Many contemporary democratic socialists reject centralized planning as a basis for democratic socialism.


(OoC: Yeah, Democratic Socialism isn't big on private ownership of the means of production. The most liberal it gets in terms of economy would be the worker self-management types, but that's usually mutual ownership of the means of production, not private).
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United Earthlings
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Postby United Earthlings » Sun May 12, 2013 9:33 pm

Allanea wrote:OOC: WhaT I mean to say.

I'm UEMS' best only client.


*Fixed*

And when you go out of business... can I bid on the storefront itself?


Maybe, will see as I fully haven't decided what to do with it yet, integrate it into the defense establishment I'm going to set up, make it a completely owned state enterprise as the Commonwealth Government is already the majority shareholder or even if I shouldn't just let it completely fade into the background.

Also, you should think twice before making a bid, for some reason the majority of NSers don't like you having a giant list of modern military equipment they can browse through to help them decide in what to choose for building up their military forces. I know weird huh?

Bereia wrote:(OOC: Yes, because old automatically equals inferior, as we all know. ;)


That's funny, I was under the impression it was always the young that were inferior, you know the whole think of the children rallying cry. ;) :roll:

Gorgashia wrote:(OoC: Wait..... Do you guys actually allow Market Socialists in, or is United Earthlings joking here?


Semi-joking as I'm neither a member {merely an very active observer-where do you think a lot of those weapons came from?} and as a form of a Social Market Economy the closed minded idiots of the world sometimes tend to refer to us as Market Socialists, which we are not. We like Capitalism very much, we just don't fully trust it. Think of it as a love-hate relationship.

Allanea wrote:(Well, as the wiki points out, it can mean a variety of things.

So the question is open: does he allow for private ownership of the means of production, or?)


What Gorgashia was trying to say before s{h}e got carried away was, NO.

Question Closed

and I'm guessing membership declined? Because we are Capitalists are we not!
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Postby Allanea » Sun May 12, 2013 9:56 pm

Also, you should think twice before making a bid, for some reason the majority of NSers don't like you having a giant list of modern military equipment they can browse through to help them decide in what to choose for building up their military forces. I know weird huh?


You may imagine my opinion on this topic.
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Delmonte
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Postby Delmonte » Sun May 12, 2013 11:10 pm

Nation name: The Most Serene Republic and Grand City of Delmonte
Views on Capitalism: God's way of determining who is smart and who is poor.
Nation population: I roleplay with about 200 million, maybe a bit more, perhaps a bit less. I've never really said: THIS IS MY POPULATION! I like to remain flexible.
WA Government Classification: Jesus... Does it even matter? *ctrl-clicks nation name* Capitalist Paradise, apparently.
Economic level (WA): Oh my God... I closed the page *ctrl-clicks again* Thriving.
National political party in power: We do not have political parties.
Current conflicts: None
Donation to CMFOU: The annual one billion NSD as requested...
Level of membership: Member
Additional nations to be submitted under the IPA:
[15:35] <Tag> I have a big, heavy sealed box that I have no idea what is in side of it.
[15:35] <Tag> I can only presume it is treasure.
The Batorys wrote:The Delmontese like money, yeah, but they also like to throw down.

<Delmonte> I don't mean literally kill their family. I mean kill their metaphorical family.
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