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Vapor: A Steampunk RP Region (OOC v. 2.0 -- CLOSED)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Nukes?

Allow them and their use. Nuclear holocaust is inevitable. Opens possibility of post-apocalyptic RPs.
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53%
Allow them but not their use. No nuclear holocaust, but nations can make empty threats.
16
9%
(Mish's plan) Allow their discovery, but not their use beyond initial tests, after which, the weaponized technology will be destroyed. Allows for Mish's research RP and for later nuclear power, but no nuclear weapons.
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24%
Use alternative laws of physics that somehow prevent nuclear technology from functioning at all.
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14%
 
Total votes : 173

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Cygnar
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Postby Cygnar » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:20 pm

Vitzenburg wrote:
Pavlostani wrote:I think the key word in Inesea's sentence was "Basically".


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Sri Tschow
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Postby Sri Tschow » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:21 pm

No I mean you consider airships with armor on it the latest?

Inesea: The post on the war will come up later tonight.
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"Humans fight to the last. When all hope is lost, when everything stands to be taken? That's when they fight the hardest. I see no reason not to continue that tradition."~The Emerald Legion

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:26 pm

Sri Tschow wrote:No I mean you consider airships with armor on it the latest?

Inesea: The post on the war will come up later tonight.

YES!

Sri, Khamul has ALOT of catching up to do. H-V-A flight is just becomming standardized in the MODERN world. Armored Airships are not that old.
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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:43 pm

@Sri - Airplanes, at this point, are gonna look something like this, or if you push it, like this. Airplanes are not (yet) able to easily defeat airships, though in a few years, when these, these, and these take to the skies, Airships will probably be out matched.
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Sri Tschow
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Postby Sri Tschow » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:52 pm

Once more threatening aircraft come out, then I'll begin developing proper airship-borne deterrents, as airships are-and will remain- an integral part of my Air Force.
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"Humans fight to the last. When all hope is lost, when everything stands to be taken? That's when they fight the hardest. I see no reason not to continue that tradition."~The Emerald Legion

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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:54 pm

Inoroth wrote:@Sri - Airplanes, at this point, are gonna look something like this, or if you push it, like this. Airplanes are not (yet) able to easily defeat airships, though in a few years, when these, these, and these take to the skies, Airships will probably be out matched.


I'm imagining land-aircraft-carriers.

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:00 pm

@Mish - I know there will be airship aircraft carriers, and i suppose land carriers are also conceivable.

@Sri - Then, if we ever go to war, it will be a simple matter of attrition, for the costs of building an airship (especially an airship with decent anti-wwii style aircraft defenses) will probably build one about ten to twenty airplanes... and even battleships had trouble with air-raids of that magnitude. Even if, say, we lose 5-10 aiplanes for every airship destroyed, we cost our foe half of what it costs us. And when I say 'our foe', I mean anyone using airships against Inoroth, not you specifically.

@Everyone - Also, I have been mulling over in my mind the thought of creating a sort of international, non-governmental force organized to defeat the evils of the Khamulite death camps in the Sri-AMEN War... Kinda like the French Foreign Legion. It would be created around the start of this war, would accept members from any nation, and would move against Khamul to liberate the camps. I want to make it because Inoroth as a nation would remain neutral in almost any eventuality in that conflict, but I do ever-so-much wish to join in the RP fun, and this provides me with that opportunity (along with anyone else who wants to be involved but their official governmental policy won't allow it). Basically, it would be an individual RP for anyone who wanted to join. What do ya'll think?
Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
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secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

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Novairia
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Postby Novairia » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:14 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:1904 Coastal Defense Rifle

Mish, ~snip~.


Wait... thats the gun (well, 4 of them) type being fired at the Armageddon?
I could have sworn you said something in the 200mm range.. Ahh yes "238 Long Range Artillery Pieces", im assuming now the 238 did not mean 238mm (9.37inch) guns? Which would be these.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_cm_Kanone_3 :p

**Edit, the Mark 2 Paris Gun was also 238mm**
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Region: Vapor
Government: Democratic Technocracy Councils
Head of State: Lord Chairman Elad Nossral
Current RP Time: 1885-1900's
Tech Type: STEAM & STEEL

Primary service rifle: KR-86V4 revolver rifle (MTs-255 ~8.6mmLapua)
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Sri Tschow
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Postby Sri Tschow » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:16 pm

I approve.
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"There is no fixing the world. There is just making it suck a little less."~Corsca

"Humans fight to the last. When all hope is lost, when everything stands to be taken? That's when they fight the hardest. I see no reason not to continue that tradition."~The Emerald Legion

"Capitalism is a petrol station with unreasonably priced drinks on the highway to utopia."~Forster Keys
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Social Libertarian|Authoritarian: -6.87
Vapor Political Spectrum
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Pavlostani
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Postby Pavlostani » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:18 pm

Sri Tschow wrote:No I mean you consider airships with armor on it the latest?

Inesea: The post on the war will come up later tonight.

The latest aspect is that it's an airship that is viable to use in combat.
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Pavlostani
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Postby Pavlostani » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:20 pm

Inoroth wrote:@Mish - I know there will be airship aircraft carriers, and i suppose land carriers are also conceivable.

@Sri - Then, if we ever go to war, it will be a simple matter of attrition, for the costs of building an airship (especially an airship with decent anti-wwii style aircraft defenses) will probably build one about ten to twenty airplanes... and even battleships had trouble with air-raids of that magnitude. Even if, say, we lose 5-10 aiplanes for every airship destroyed, we cost our foe half of what it costs us. And when I say 'our foe', I mean anyone using airships against Inoroth, not you specifically.

@Everyone - Also, I have been mulling over in my mind the thought of creating a sort of international, non-governmental force organized to defeat the evils of the Khamulite death camps in the Sri-AMEN War... Kinda like the French Foreign Legion. It would be created around the start of this war, would accept members from any nation, and would move against Khamul to liberate the camps. I want to make it because Inoroth as a nation would remain neutral in almost any eventuality in that conflict, but I do ever-so-much wish to join in the RP fun, and this provides me with that opportunity (along with anyone else who wants to be involved but their official governmental policy won't allow it). Basically, it would be an individual RP for anyone who wanted to join. What do ya'll think?

Just remember that no matter what you do, the camps will be liberated. Fighting to liberate them will just get a lot of people killed. The end result would be the same, just with more bodies.
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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:27 pm

@Khamul - But Khamul, that's OOC knowledge... IC people don't know this (or perhaps don't trust it if they do).

@Nov - yeah, the gun in the link was 15 inches. 15 inches = 381 mm... almost double 238, though honestly the calculation is velocity x mass, so a smaller projectile with the same mass traveling at the same speed would be more devestating. And I am still waiting on your armor reports for my calculations, good sir :p

@Sri - You aprove of...?
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secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

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Sri Tschow
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Postby Sri Tschow » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:28 pm

Your proposal for the French Foreign Legion.
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"There is no fixing the world. There is just making it suck a little less."~Corsca

"Humans fight to the last. When all hope is lost, when everything stands to be taken? That's when they fight the hardest. I see no reason not to continue that tradition."~The Emerald Legion

"Capitalism is a petrol station with unreasonably priced drinks on the highway to utopia."~Forster Keys
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Social Libertarian|Authoritarian: -6.87
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:30 pm

Novairia wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:1904 Coastal Defense Rifle

Mish, ~snip~.


Wait... thats the gun (well, 4 of them) type being fired at the Armageddon?
I could have sworn you said something in the 200mm range.. Ahh yes "238 Long Range Artillery Pieces", im assuming now the 238 did not mean 238mm (9.37inch) guns? Which would be these.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_cm_Kanone_3 :p

**Edit, the Mark 2 Paris Gun was also 238mm**

This was a typo on my part. Those guns are static Internal Bay Defense Guns. The Rail Fortresses use 238mm slightky modified Paris Guns. I forgot to put 238mm in he post.
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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:32 pm

@Sri - Well of course you would, you're already in the war and the Legion would come in on your side :p. I was just wondering if people who are not currently involved in the conflict but wish to be (Fan, Wirble, Servoth, Vijay, Vitz, Dal, and so on) were interested.

@Inesea - ok, so what are the rail guns like?
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pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

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Servoth
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Postby Servoth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:34 pm

Inoroth wrote:@Sri - Well of course you would, you're already in the war and the Legion would come in on your side :p. I was just wondering if people who are not currently involved in the conflict but wish to be (Fan, Wirble, Servoth, Vijay, Vitz, Dal, and so on) were interested.

@Inesea - ok, so what are the rail guns like?


GO FOR IT! WOOOOOO. Seriously.
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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:37 pm

Alright! One interest vote! I'll get on it tomorrow!

EDIT* Antidotal Moment:

Q: Where does a General keep his armies?

A:
Up his sleeveies
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Life is what you make it -- I made it into a peach cobbler
cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:41 pm

Inoroth wrote:@Sri - Well of course you would, you're already in the war and the Legion would come in on your side :p. I was just wondering if people who are not currently involved in the conflict but wish to be (Fan, Wirble, Servoth, Vijay, Vitz, Dal, and so on) were interested.

@Inesea - ok, so what are the rail guns like?


The Guns(LRAGs) are Rail Mobile, but require a stopped train to fire. Other rail guns are most likely Rail Mobile Big Berthas or such.
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Sri Tschow
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Founded: Jul 23, 2012
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Postby Sri Tschow » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:42 pm

I do hope Amplector doesn't use this as an opportunity to gain a foot... naw they wouldn't.
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"Capitalism is a petrol station with unreasonably priced drinks on the highway to utopia."~Forster Keys
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Itailian Maifias
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Postby Itailian Maifias » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:42 pm

@Ino, Averi would be up for a Foreign Legion. It could use it to get some of it's soldiers some experience outside of fighting bandits every spring.
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:43 pm

Inoroth wrote:
@Everyone - Also, I have been mulling over in my mind the thought of creating a sort of international, non-governmental force organized to defeat the evils of the Khamulite death camps in the Sri-AMEN War... Kinda like the French Foreign Legion. It would be created around the start of this war, would accept members from any nation, and would move against Khamul to liberate the camps. I want to make it because Inoroth as a nation would remain neutral in almost any eventuality in that conflict, but I do ever-so-much wish to join in the RP fun, and this provides me with that opportunity (along with anyone else who wants to be involved but their official governmental policy won't allow it). Basically, it would be an individual RP for anyone who wanted to join. What do ya'll think?

So, If Inesean Airships and Inesean Troops were near the camps, would you want Rothian Soldiers found near there?
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Pavlostani
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Postby Pavlostani » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:46 pm

Inesea and I have decided that at the end of fall, he will have his territory encompass mine. That way, it would dissuade hostile force from attacking my camps, like I'm sure you all want to do,
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Cyprum Xecuii
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Postby Cyprum Xecuii » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:47 pm

Pavlostani wrote:Inesea and I have decided that at the end of fall, he will have his territory encompass mine. That way, it would dissuade hostile force from attacking my camps, like I'm sure you all want to do,


Say what? Inesea is dissolving into Khamul? So I'll be doing cooperation projects with...Inemul? Idk...

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Inoroth
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Postby Inoroth » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:49 pm

@Inesea - I'm looking for projectile mass, caliber, and velocity of the guns/projectiles. Also, I didn't understand you question regarding Rothian Troops... was that to imply that the Legion would be attacked if they did anything? Cause if so, that comes with the territory.

@Sri - Yeah, that'd never happen...

@Averi - Two Votes! Now I am definitely making it!

@Khamul - What the Heck? Inesea and Khamul assimilate, or that Inesea's territory wraps around yours... cause if the latter, there's always the sea, my friend, there's always the sea...
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cosmopolitan/nationalistic: 4%
secular/religious: 63%
visionary/reactionary: 39%
anarchistc/authoritarian: 25%
communistic/capitalistic: 37%
pacifistic/militaristic: 48%
ecological.anthropological: 66%
I am apperantly a Neo-Conservative... who knew?

Inoroth's Military Here.
Nations Represented By This Account: Inoroth, New Inorothian Space Empire,

Inoroth's Factbook Here

"A fool's words cut down friends on the eve of battle" - Vinchero

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:50 pm

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Pavlostani wrote:Inesea and I have decided that at the end of fall, he will have his territory encompass mine. That way, it would dissuade hostile force from attacking my camps, like I'm sure you all want to do,


Say what? Inesea is dissolving into Khamul? So I'll be doing cooperation projects with...Inemul? Idk...

He forgot to say in V-Land, pending my retention of Onheath, which I DO Intend to keep.

EDIT: Which are patrolled by Menya
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