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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:10 am

What did i miss this time?
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Postby Daskoxian » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:32 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:What did i miss this time?

Neros and Miehm got warned.
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Postby Earth Empire » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:33 am

I will wait. Thanks for the links.
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Postby Sythyn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:37 am

Daskoxian wrote:But FanT is also prone to similar sorts of wanking, no?


Any tech is prone to wank, it's not black and white though FT seem to have the most prominent tech for it given a majority of NSers have that a little bit of scientific geek in them (myself not excluded). Given the prevalent trend of more and more futuristic games being released, surely this can or will concede to trigger an influx of newcomers into FT scale. I don't see fantasy genre have alot of players anyway (as in per II but i noted there are fantasy-themed groups like Ceaden).

Anyway putting that ramble aside, I do hope peeps know the differences between wide and tall empires, and having a large empire may prove a world of hurt just to think the plausible consequences and the full implications (not to mention ramifications) of playing as such. Every point of strength have its own flaw, and it's just a matter of time for a clever opponent to exploit it. I'm not trying to decide your empire size, no no. Just hope you can understand how hard it is to think of such scale, and the potential problems associated with it like the simple border problem. Empire A have a lot of ships and a large border. This at a glance can be seen that Empire A is indeed more powerful than its less unfortunate cousin, say Empire B that have only a handful of systems and a handful of ships.

Now, space as it is very huge and Empire A cannot have all of its ships everywhere at once as it would thin out its force too thin to stop a dedicated and persistent attacker from breaking into specific weakpoints of the empire's borders. The clever Empire B then would use this to its advantage, by collecting information on Empire A's weak points even though it's clearly militarily disadvantaged in terms of numbers. Depending on how clever Empire B, much damage can be done toward Empire A, like inciting rebellions, causing losses than profit from interstellar trade, or even breaking Empire A into multiple smaller splinter factions that are infused with Empire B propaganda to shoot each other while turning a blind eye to the real puppeteer. Anyhow end rant, and I know i'm being ironic to bring this up in this thread even though there are far more suitable thread listed on my sig for it. :p


Yeah, waiting for hlad to come online. :(
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Postby Daskoxian » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:44 am

Sythyn wrote:
Daskoxian wrote:But FanT is also prone to similar sorts of wanking, no?


Any tech is prone to wank, it's not black and white though FT seem to have the most prominent tech for it given a majority of NSers have that a little bit of scientific geek in them (myself not excluded). Given the prevalent trend of more and more futuristic games being released, surely this can or will concede to trigger an influx of newcomers into FT scale. I don't see fantasy genre have alot of players anyway (as in per II but i noted there are fantasy-themed groups like Ceaden).

Anyway putting that ramble aside, I do hope peeps know the differences between wide and tall empires, and having a large empire may prove a world of hurt just to think the plausible consequences and the full implications (not to mention ramifications) of playing as such. Every point of strength have its own flaw, and it's just a matter of time for a clever opponent to exploit it. I'm not trying to decide your empire size, no no. Just hope you can understand how hard it is to think of such scale, and the potential problems associated with it like the simple border problem. Empire A have a lot of ships and a large border. This at a glance can be seen that Empire A is indeed more powerful than its less unfortunate cousin, say Empire B that have only a handful of systems and a handful of ships.

Now, space as it is very huge and Empire A cannot have all of its ships everywhere at once as it would thin out its force too thin to stop a dedicated and persistent attacker from breaking into specific weakpoints of the empire's borders. The clever Empire B then would use this to its advantage, by collecting information on Empire A's weak points even though it's clearly militarily disadvantaged in terms of numbers. Depending on how clever Empire B, much damage can be done toward Empire A, like inciting rebellions, causing losses than profit from interstellar trade, or even breaking Empire A into multiple smaller splinter factions that are infused with Empire B propaganda to shoot each other while turning a blind eye to the real puppeteer. Anyhow end rant, and I know i'm being ironic to bring this up in this thread even though there are far more suitable thread listed on my sig for it. :p


Yeah, waiting for hlad to come online. :(

What I meant was that FanT and FT have no clear upper limits compared to MT, PT, and PMT, where a wank would be more obvious than the first two.
Nice rant, by the way.

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Postby Sythyn » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:57 am

Daskoxian wrote:What I meant was that FanT and FT have no clear upper limits compared to MT, PT, and PMT, where a wank would be more obvious than the first two.
Nice rant, by the way.


Oh, sorry for misinterpreting your statement, apologies mate. Well the issue of large and small had been brought up in FT many times before, and if you know you can handle it well on playing a large empire, then by all means do it as you wish. Just note on my previous point that every bit of advantage have its own caveats and tradeoffs, otherwise it would be quite wankish i.e you have a superinvincible ship that cannot be killed or massive warfleets that can bombard planets as if they're nothing more than a crumpled paper with no consequences whatsoever.

Now if you deduce correctly of my not so coherent line of thoughts here, you can see why newcomers with supposedly large empires from the start tend to get shunned by certain FT communities (not pointing any fingers here) as the current trend with them (analyzed by my pseudo-valid thoughts :P) tend to show them incapable of using their numerical advantage proper or roleplaying the full consequences and implications of having a huge empire. That's also a reason I've made a request for Hlad to actually check the posting history of applicants before accepting them, to see their current capabilities whether justify their lolhueg claim or not. If you cannot fly an airplane proper but decided to do it anyway, the end result won't be favourable.

EDIT : bad grammar :(
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:03 am

FT Is stuff After 2100 is what is see. FanTech is a total disregard for the most basic laws of the universe.
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Postby Kreanoltha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:08 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:FT Is stuff After 2100 is what is see. FanTech is a total disregard for the most basic laws of the universe.


FanTech is traditional fantasy fiction based magic and tech and encompass everything from Chinese folklore to Steam Punk. Diesel Punk sits on the line between FanTech and PMT ideas being applied to PT.
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Postby Daskoxian » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:11 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:FT Is stuff After 2100 is what is see. FanTech is a total disregard for the most basic laws of the universe.

That we know of. ;)

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:14 am

Daskoxian wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:FT Is stuff After 2100 is what is see. FanTech is a total disregard for the most basic laws of the universe.

That we know of. ;)


Exactly. Though i really doubt Many if any of those laws will be disprove in our lifetime

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Immoren wrote:Saphirasia and his ICBCPs (inter continental ballistic cattle prod)
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Postby Mini Miehm » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:18 am

Daskoxian wrote:
Mini Miehm wrote:
No.

FT is probably the segment of NS most opposed to techwanking. All of our gameplay hinges to a much greater degree on cooperation, compared to MT or PMT, or even PT or FanT. If we pointlessly inflate our own capabilities, we become guilty of attempting to win at Nationstates, which ruins the game for everyone.

But FanT is also prone to similar sorts of wanking, no?



Sometimes. Most FanT is organized in communities with a linked mythology. Wanking is trickier when everyone has the same base to work with.
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Postby Mini Miehm » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:23 am

Daskoxian wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:What did i miss this time?

Neros and Miehm got warned.


Worth it. Needed to be said to stop from negating all the work we're putting into this group.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:24 am

Not gonna ask...Anyway Guess what i figured out a few days ago? Theoretical sciences are very fun to discuses.
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Postby Daskoxian » Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:51 am

Mini Miehm wrote:
Daskoxian wrote:Neros and Miehm got warned.


Worth it. Needed to be said to stop from negating all the work we're putting into this group.

The RP's he posted aren't that bad... except for the run-on sentences everywhere and the tech base he posted in his app.

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Postby Casl » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:14 pm

So!!!!!

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Postby Mini Miehm » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:48 pm

Daskoxian wrote:
Mini Miehm wrote:
Worth it. Needed to be said to stop from negating all the work we're putting into this group.

The RP's he posted aren't that bad... except for the run-on sentences everywhere and the tech base he posted in his app.


And you've never interacted with him OOC. Trust me. It needed to be said.
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Postby Kreanoltha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:58 pm

Mini Miehm wrote:
Daskoxian wrote:The RP's he posted aren't that bad... except for the run-on sentences everywhere and the tech base he posted in his app.


And you've never interacted with him OOC. Trust me. It needed to be said.


He's an ass in OOC. See the last few pages, now known as the Neros vs. Nations-with-"Terran"-in-Their-Names saga.
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Postby Hladgos » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:28 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
Mini Miehm wrote:He's not a Terran nation. He is a functional moron, and one of the worst people to interact with on the entire website. To whit, he is the standard of BAD in the general FT community. I would advise excising his brand of ineptness before its given a chance to take hold. I've been dealing with it for something like seven years, and he was a joke even then.

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Sythyn's talking about Neros. I'm talking about you. To whatever extent my opinion carries wait in this group, which may not be much based on some of the applications that have been accepted, I am entirely against your being permitted to join, as you have the potential to entirely undo the good work that I and others have put in to improve their RP.

*** Warned for flaming. ***

And now I'm going to look through what is going on. I'm kicking people from the group if this happens again.
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Postby Saurisisia » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:29 pm

Kreanoltha wrote:
Mini Miehm wrote:
And you've never interacted with him OOC. Trust me. It needed to be said.


He's an ass in OOC. See the last few pages, now known as the Neros vs. Nations-with-"Terran"-in-Their-Names saga.


Who is, by the way? Neros, Miehm, or Terran?
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Postby Hladgos » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:30 pm

Len Hyet wrote:snip

Accepted.
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Postby Kreanoltha » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:32 pm

Saurisisia wrote:
Kreanoltha wrote:
He's an ass in OOC. See the last few pages, now known as the Neros vs. Nations-with-"Terran"-in-Their-Names saga.


Who is, by the way? Neros, Miehm, or Terran?


Neros was being an ass to Miehm and Telros.
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Postby Hladgos » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:33 pm

Kreanoltha wrote:
Saurisisia wrote:
Who is, by the way? Neros, Miehm, or Terran?


Neros was being an ass to Miehm and Telros.

Then he's had his warning. Once more and he's gone. Also Miehm has been warned as well.
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Life is suffering. Suffering is caused by craving and aversion. Suffering can be overcome and happiness can be attained. Live a moral life.

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"The purpose of our life is to be happy." -Dali Lama

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Postby Earth Empire » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:38 pm

I don't know if you saw this mr hlad so I'll paste it again


(all of these are FT only tell me If you need all time periods)

Nation name: The Empire of Capella

Population: 3.4 Trillion 

Government type: Empire

Economy base: Mining, soon to become massive at trading

Species percentage in nation: 81% Human, 19% mixed intelligent aliens 

Tech base: legend of the galactic heroes (basically strength in numbers with no shields, on lasers) moving into star wars tech base

Weapon types: Lasers, heavy lasers, Ground forces use laser weapons as well

Area controlled: 465 star systems

Amount of habited planets: only 287 (but are terraformed perfectly)

Amount of claimed planets: 1,230

Space Fleet size size: approx. 4 million warships
Capitol ships: 500k
Frigates: (more like battleships) 3.5 million
Mechanical details
Length: 624 metres
Width: 65 metres
Height: 136 metres
Armament: 8 forward cannons; 14 port cannons; 14 starboard cannons

Bombers/starfighters: 8 million
Drones: 5 million

Superweapons: Artemis necklace-http://gineipaedia.com/wiki/Artemis_Necklace

Iserlohn fortress-http://gineipaedia.com/wiki/Iserlohn_Fortress

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Postby Vetega » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:39 pm

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Postby Hladgos » Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:40 pm

Earth Empire wrote:snip

Accepted.
Divair wrote:Hladcore.

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