The Lemon Islands wrote:-Snip-
This is not negotiable.
Dh'arco Rahavuhra Jukill
Supreme Warlord of Milograd
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by Milograd » Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:14 pm
The Lemon Islands wrote:-Snip-
by Tecknoko » Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:24 pm
by The Lemon Islands » Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:37 pm
by Saint Catherines and Leiszwiesen » Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:28 pm
by Milograd » Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:50 pm
by The Beatus » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:18 pm
by United World Order » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:34 pm
The Beatus wrote:Official Government Statement
Effective immediately, all diplomatic ties with the First Dh'arconian Empire of Milograd, have are being suspended. We have observed over these past days and weeks, a deliberate, and consistent trend of warmongering by the Imperial Milogradian Government. Repeated attempts at resolving this situation diplomatically, have failed. At this time, answering a call for help from the sovereign government of Vbingvan, Beatusian forces, are deploying to the waters around that nation. Their job, shall be to aide the Vbingvan armed forces, in the preservation of their national sovereignty, against Milogradian intrusion. Should our forces be attacked, they will retaliate. Should any nation, encroach upon Vbingvan territory, without permission of the Vbingvan Government, they shall be instructed to vacate Vbingvan territory. Should they fail to head such warnings, they shall be attacked. We find it quite a shame that Peacekeeping forces need to be deployed in this situation, however, we are not willing to sit idly by while a nation is burned to the ground.
Signed,
His Holiness,
Edwardo Listless
The Theocratic Dominion of The Beatus
by The Lemon Islands » Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:12 pm
by Jagada » Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:29 pm
by Yohannes » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:47 am
To: Dh'arco Rahavuhra Jukill and the Milogradian Imperial Government.
From: The Rt Hon. Julius Frej Shriver. Minister of Foreign Affairs to His Yohannesian Majesty's Government.
Subject: Pledge of bilateral diplomatic and economic assistance. [translation: English] [encryption: A6NE7JB]Your Honourary,
Representing the Commonwealth Government of the nineteen nations, it is in my capacity henceforth as the appointed Head for the Foreign & Trade Office of His Majesty's Government to voice the wish of the nineteen governments, and ultimately that of the Yohannesian Commonwealth and His Yohannesian Majesty's Government, regarding our intention; That of support, both diplomatically and economically, towards your represented government.
The Milogradian Government has long maintained and respected its pledge of bilateral diplomatic connection with that of His Majesty's Government; Some examples of which one may observed was the initiative of your represented government's part upon the quick commencement and existence of the Milogradian embassy within the capital district of Serfontein, its establishment of a further consulate-general mission within the district of Ardenfontein, and finally the trade agreements which both the Milogradian Empire and Yohannesian Crown Commonwealth Empire has maintained ever since the foundation of our represented nations' colonial empires overseas.
Both the Milogradian Government and that of the Yohannesian Commonwealth has maintained a strong, bilaterally beneficient joint-naval exercises throughout our various colonial holdings overseas, from that of lands as far flung as Xanadou and as close as Judea. The Milogradian Colonial Empire and Yohannesian Crown Commonwealth Empire has supported one another bilaterally, whether it be directly and/or non-directly, throughout multiple occassions overseas.
It was therefore that, with such factual evidence in mind, and historical connection spanning thrice a generation, the Yohannesian Crown and His Majesty's Government has pledged to commit a full monetary fund, granted and accredited by that of the central banking institution of His Majesty's Government, none other than that of the internationally renowned Yohannesische Bundesbank, within the direct injection sum of US$3,000,000,000,000.00 or three trillions in Universal Standard Dollar denomination. Further economic aid(s) shall be granted without a shadow of doubt, shall your represented government request as of such.
May the Imperial Realms of Gholgoth stand the test of time, and glorious be Milograd and Yohannes for thrice more a generation.
by Dneprdaniya » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:51 am
Lol no, I'm here for a fight, not for an NBC exchange.Tecknoko wrote:The biological agents will be nerve gas, weaponized smallpox, ricin, and potentially staphylococcal enterotoxin B used later
by Automagfreek » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:42 pm
Dneprdaniya wrote: Er, except we don't. You can't claim to know everything about something since your knowledge of everything is necessarily limited by what you don't know. In other words you don't know how much you know. That's a rule of military intelligence. Secondly, HUMINT is an extremely important part of intelligence. I don't know how you can claim to have immediate on-hand HUMINT about my country. Virtually everything you learn about "on the ground" is taken from HUMINT. Without HUMINT your intelligence operations amount to nothing. North Korea has extremely deep HUMINT penetration.
You don't know the very specific areas. There's no way you could know them [immediately.]
] Decoys do produce heat and radar signatures. That's the point of a decoy. You would have to be constantly monitoring my country to be able to plot the movement of all decoy forces and all conventional forces, but not only that, you would have to be following them all the time so that you always knew which were real and which weren't.
All forms of intelligence are vital and valuable. Nonetheless, all forms of intelligence should be combined with in-field reconnaissance to be really accurate.
lol
Also your technology is completely unproven, sorry.
Uh, the S-300 complex can attack hypersonic weapons. S-300PMU-3 i.e. S-400 was specifically designed to be an ABM complex.
by Vbingvan » Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:42 pm
Milograd wrote:The Vbingvanians made the fatal mistake of assuming their relevance in the affairs of Milograd, and for that they shall pay the price of extermination, subjugation, and annihilation. Our war has arisen due to such, and Vbingvan shall fall as did Bisgea, Tecknoko, and Argatov. All others whom wish to infringe on Milograd's rightful sovereignty, and therein our right to isolation, shall meet the same fate." He paused yet again to capture his breath, and wiped off a batch of sweat from his forehead. "We realize that our interaction with the inherently flawed international community is unnecessary, and we realize that it is within the best interests of our people to refrain from maintaining an active international presence. We embrace these concepts - Dh'arconian thought - and realize that the annihilation of all those whom dare attempt to threaten us is entirely necessary. Like a sleeping beast, we will not harm those whom do not harm us. Milograd desires nothing more than peaceful isolation within the secluded Gholgoth region; we do not inflict outwardly harm, so why must others feel it necessary to threaten us? Intervention with Milograd leads to nothing but death and despair, so I would like to pose this question to the international community; why intervene when peace can be achieved through leaving us alone? Why must the sons and daughters of the state sacrifice their lives in the name of an unnecessary war?"
Foreign Delegate
Tshariik Vbarvk
Representing the Hivemind Council
The nation of Vbingvan would likewise wish to end hostilities with Milograd. Without aid, Vbingvan wouldn't survive an invasion. We have our people to consider. We will not contact Milograd in the future unless they initiate communication.The Dh'arconian High Command would normally reject this offer of peace, however, for the sake of being inoffensive, the Empire shall accept it. This acceptance will only occur with the condition that every firstborn Vbingvanian child be transported to Milograd for Volcano Sacrifice*. Vbingvan must redeem itself in the eyes of the Dark Gods, and failure to comply with this demand will result in the annihilation of Vbingvan and the extermination of its population.
Dh'arco Rahavuhra JukillForeign Delegate, Tshariik Vbarvk
Representing the Hivemind Council of Vbingvan
Even if we were willing to comply with such a demand, which we're not, we wouldn't be able to carry it out. We'd have an all-out rebellion on our hands if we told our entire population to surrender their firstborn children, and that would destroy our nation just as much as if you and your allies invaded.
So flkt no, we won't be complying with that demand. We won't communicate with you again or make any threats of war, but we won't be sending you our firstborn children, either.
-End Transmission-
Annihilation and extermination shall commence as planned.
Dh'arco Rahavuhra Jukill
Supreme Warlord of Milograd
by The Beatus » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:44 pm
Jagada wrote:(Image)The Empire of All JagitesYou must walk through the darkness to see the light ...
To The Theocratic Dominion of The Beatus,
Your open statements to our brothers in the First Dh'arconian Empire of Milograd have been recieved by myself and in extension the Emperor of All Jagites, most sourly. Your Dominion has no place in this conflict beyond attempting to save an already broken nation from its own belligerence and foolishness. It is therefore the Emperor's desire to extend a final chance to your theocracy to recant your beliefs in war and renounce your declaration of war against Milograd. Your nation has a long, and no doubt proud history, it would be unfortunate to see it collapse in a heap of ruin and debris after a Gothic invasion. The sheer scale of the devastation would be worthy of song and tales, but only of a time to be cursed by your own people who will look to the skies and ask why their gods did not save them.
Should you refuse to comply with this statment, this olive branch of peace extended from the empire, or simply ignore it the Emperor will consider it an Act of War that will be dealt with with all necessary methods. The choice of is yours Mr. Listless -- your pride or your existance.
You must walk through the darkness to see the light ...
Lord Telge Pearland
House Pearland
Department of Foreign Relations
by The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:49 am
by Allanea » Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:08 am
by Kazakhstan- » Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:20 am
by Dneprdaniya » Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:42 am
[OOC: I am not objecting to the use of any form of intelligence or weaponry nor am I claiming any form of invincibility. What I directly object to is your claim to be able to hit anything in my nation at any time with accuracy and impunity. That is a metagame and a godmod.]Automagfreek wrote:/
What's it's' speed? S-400 complex is capable of engaging hypersonic targets. It's an ABM. You're quite right, I don't care for tech arguments particularly, but if you're going to insist on the invincibility of your equipment, I'm going to argue with you about it. I'm not going to sit here and accept that any attack you make on my country must automatically result in victory because you are Automagfreek. You can be reasonable, or we can have an argument.Automagfreek wrote:First off, S-300=/=S-400. Secondly, the S-300 variants can engage tactical short range and some medium range nuclear missiles (and even these capabilities are token at best), not full on strategic missiles. Against tactical ballistic missiles it has a 0.7 probability of kill (on paper), but that number gets worse when you stack it up against faster and longer range missiles. And no, they wouldn't be able to engage ICBM class hypersonics either, since it's basically a conventional ICBM to being with and its terminal phase is too fast for the S-300 to properly engage. You can attack it, sure, but the odds of interception are hilariously slim. I've talked with our regional aerospace engineer (real life) about all of this. And by the way, the S-300 has never been fired in actual combat, so we don't even know how it would operate in a real world scenario. Of course it has a 100% SUCCESS! rate in state run tests, but such claims are dubious at best, especially considering the Russians have a reputation for over-stating their military capabilities.
by Automagfreek » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:05 am
Dneprdaniya wrote:OOC: I am not objecting to the use of any form of intelligence or weaponry nor am I claiming any form of invincibility. What I directly object to is your claim to be able to hit anything in my nation at any time with accuracy and impunity. That is a metagame and a godmod.]
What's it's' speed? S-400 complex is capable of engaging hypersonic targets. It's an ABM. You're quite right, I don't care for tech arguments particularly, but if you're going to insist on the invincibility of your equipment, I'm going to argue with you about it. I'm not going to sit here and accept that any attack you make on my country must automatically result in victory because you are Automagfreek. You can be reasonable, or we can have an argument.
Remember that it is you who to chose to invade me because I insulted you IC.
by Dneprdaniya » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:35 am
by Allanea » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:36 am
by Automagfreek » Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:56 am
Dneprdaniya wrote:[OOC: S-400 is a continuation of S-300. They're in the same family; they're as different as M1A1 is to M1A2 SEP. S-400 is only a reclassification of S-300PMU3. Nonetheless I admit fault here. I agree that hypersonic weapons exist and work IRL. No doubt that the USA can produce a hypersonic and hit accurately a target in their own country. But a target in a country with which they must have limited/no HUMINT? I agree that your weapons are precise and accurate. Intelligence, however, is half of accuracy. I dispute only that you have the intelligence. Also I don't know how many a "salvo" of missiles is. An OOC thread would be useful if this is going to continue so that you can keep these numbers out of IC posts but post them OOCly. Also I'm unfamiliar with the use of hypersonic to represent Mach 20+.
by Cylarn » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:50 pm
by The Black Plains » Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:03 pm
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