Star War Galaxy [General OOC Thread]

[Huntaer]

We could just make a hobo SWG Halloween thread, and make it almost as cheesy as the Star Wars Christmas Special.

Sorry, but nothing beats that level of Cheese, not even Jar jar. In fact, it's so bad even Lucas doesn't try to touch it to "improve it" .

[Thrashia]

WE DO NOT SPEAK ITS NAME!

[Asfaltum]

Which one of them?

[Orthodox Gnosticism]

Which one of them?

True, I see a lot of names and things in the last 4 posts that could easily be forgotten.

[Huntaer]

Which one of them?

True, I see a lot of names and things in the last 4 posts that could easily be forgotten.

What were we talking about? I forgot a ready... *cough*

[New Dornalia]

Nope, haven't heard anything here, and nothing worth confirming or denying.

[Thrashia]

OK, so I know that you've all been patient and that I've been both (a) recovering from a rather gruesome fight with a shark whilst rescuing a damsel [that's my story and I'm sticking to it] and (b) getting over a mountain of work that I've had to catch up on in the return from the doctors. That said, this coming weekend (after Halloween and the zombie apocalypse that will ensue) I will be catching up on all posts -- primarily focusing on the Dying Dawn thread and the continuation of any other threads. If there some something that you personally believe needs to be brought to my attention, then feel free to either TG me or leave a message here.

Cheers!

[Wandering Argonians]

I'll fine something to do in the meantime.

[New Terminus]

Someone just said I have a cool flag #proudface.png

[Orthodox Gnosticism]

And the Halloween Thread is up. Damn Sith Witches!!!!!!

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[New Terminus]

OG Told me to have fun in the Halloween thread and treat it as a sort of short stories thread so I did and I think you will all enjoy it Happy Halloween All!

[Thrashia]

DD post up.

[Orthodox Gnosticism]

DD post up.

Did you just take over Coruscant, with Tycho? I am just curious if it is now OK for Players (Note Players, not their nations) to take full governence of planets that you, yourself declared NPC planets by characters they created. I'd like to know if that precedent is allowed like the land grab debacle, so the Lady in White can rule Korriban in the next turn, as the Sith Empress. I'm sure a few others would like to create "The Mandalore" to rule the planet Mandalore, and I'm sure Wick won't mind creating a Jedi Master who popularly rules Ossus.

If that isn't the precedent you are setting, I do hope that Coruscant will be returned to all of the SWG's players - joint rule soon.

What ever happened to Wick's attacks against the Chaos Fleets?

[New Dornalia]

I don't mind the other stuff, but I agree the Coruscant thing does need some clarification so it doesn't go down some potentially very nasty roads. As a famous movie once cautioned, "Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."

[Huntaer]

If this means that you're effectively controlling Coruscant when it was clearly specified in the rules that coruscant will not be up for grabs, I'm not going to roll with it. This is a different issue from your problems with me RPing land grabs because there never was any actual rules on how to RP them, other than the original modification of not being RPed in the news thread and the the recent declaration requiring us to RP the land grab with someone else. You clearly stated from the beginning that Coruscant was out of bounds for land grabs, along with other NPC's. Then if you're going to decide that we can go ahead and claim NPC's, you still RPed it without giving anyone a chance to counter your claim, which is what your newest ruling required us to do. The post you just made isn't a matter of someone misinterpreting poorly posted rulings or lack of any actual posted rules, it really makes it look like you can decide what is NPC and then effectively control it's fate without consulting the rest of us simply so it can fit into your own RP needs/land holdings with your (the player) characters.

The Rebooted Star Wars Galaxy
[*]There are several NPC regions and qualifications: Hutt Space is, as before, out of bounds to any claims. Coruscant is also out of bounds and will be NPC controlled. Coruscant is now home to a SWG version of the United Nations, call it the "Galactic Conclave." All of us would be part of it, but no one entity in the galaxy controls it or the planet Coruscant directly. This is meant to create some incentive for political cloak and dagger and other fun RP ideas that can be created.

No one entity Thrash, that includes you. As a famous merc once said, "Hey, hey, hey, them ain't kosherized rules."

[Feazanthia]

So, if I want to claim an NPC world, I need to find someone to RP the NPCs, right?

[Godular]

ZONAMA SEKOT IS MINE!

is that an NPC world? It should be.

[Orthodox Gnosticism]

ZONAMA SEKOT IS MINE!

is that an NPC world? It should be.

Since it's a living, sentient planet that can travel in hyperspace, I'd personally say it qualifies as NPC. If not, then I'm claiming it as a character. (Kidding)

[Balrogga]

ZONAMA SEKOT IS MINE!

is that an NPC world? It should be.

Since it's a living, sentient planet that can travel in hyperspace, I'd personally say it qualifies as NPC. If not, then I'm claiming it as a character. (Kidding)

*Considers creating a Kythonized world*

[Orthodox Gnosticism]

Since it's a living, sentient planet that can travel in hyperspace, I'd personally say it qualifies as NPC. If not, then I'm claiming it as a character. (Kidding)

*Considers creating a Kythonized world*

Why not, after all there has already been a sigh alchemized planet sized death star.

[Thrashia]

Just because I do the rp'ing for the NPC means that their actions benefit my IC nation itself. In this case, it benefits no one except Coruscant and Tycho, who is an NPC. I've said many times before that Coruscant is going to become like an old city-state from the Italian civil war age in Machiavelli's time. Coruscant is becoming its own nation. At some later point if there is a player that I think capable of rp'ing it, or it by itself, then it might be handed off to them -- to continue it as an NPC or a nation in its own right, but never by any of us. I'm doing the NPC work for the time being because of the story line. Once it's reached the climax, things will go off script, so to speak, and who knows what will happen in the future.

[Thrashia]

DD post up.

Did you just take over Coruscant, with Tycho? I am just curious if it is now OK for Players (Note Players, not their nations) to take full governence of planets that you, yourself declared NPC planets by characters they created. I'd like to know if that precedent is allowed like the land grab debacle, so the Lady in White can rule Korriban in the next turn, as the Sith Empress. I'm sure a few others would like to create "The Mandalore" to rule the planet Mandalore, and I'm sure Wick won't mind creating a Jedi Master who popularly rules Ossus.

If that isn't the precedent you are setting, I do hope that Coruscant will be returned to all of the SWG's players - joint rule soon.

What ever happened to Wick's attacks against the Chaos Fleets?

Everything was written from the NPC character Tycho's perspective and never mentions any other government except ND's, and that only in reference to writing a letter in reply to his Legation. Tycho plans to create a Coruscant independent of other powers that be.

This is to make it so that it's that much harder for any nation to try and claim influence over Coruscant. Coruscant itself is rising for itself.

I'm just as confused over how this was interpreted as "Thrashian Empire Conquers Coruscant" when none of my characters were involved and not a single mention or thought is made of it...

[Thrashia]

OK, so ND has been explaining more in detail some of the concerns you guys had on IRC. He'll be getting our entire conversation copy-pasted over to anyone that would like it.

[Orthodox Gnosticism]

Did you just take over Coruscant, with Tycho? I am just curious if it is now OK for Players (Note Players, not their nations) to take full governence of planets that you, yourself declared NPC planets by characters they created. I'd like to know if that precedent is allowed like the land grab debacle, so the Lady in White can rule Korriban in the next turn, as the Sith Empress. I'm sure a few others would like to create "The Mandalore" to rule the planet Mandalore, and I'm sure Wick won't mind creating a Jedi Master who popularly rules Ossus.

If that isn't the precedent you are setting, I do hope that Coruscant will be returned to all of the SWG's players - joint rule soon.

What ever happened to Wick's attacks against the Chaos Fleets?

Everything was written from the NPC character Tycho's perspective and never mentions any other government except ND's, and that only in reference to writing a letter in reply to his Legation. Tycho plans to create a Coruscant independent of other powers that be.

This is to make it so that it's that much harder for any nation to try and claim influence over Coruscant. Coruscant itself is rising for itself.

I'm just as confused over how this was interpreted as "Thrashian Empire Conquers Coruscant" when none of my characters were involved and not a single mention or thought is made of it...

Thrashia, you must have misinterpreted my point. No one accused your IC nation of taking over Coruscant. We're saying OOCly that "The NPC" that you created has, without permission of the player base, violated our rules of Coruscant. Thrashia, you are a player, the same as the rest of us, and Coruscant was designated as a NON Player Character planet, by you and agreed upon by all the players. This is why I choose my analogy of Hera taking over Korriban. The Woman in White would be by the same standards a NPC. SHe is not affiliated with any government. She is not a member of the INternational Fleet, the Galactic Imperium, The Starways Congress or any player nation. Thus is she now able to take over Korriban under the guise of NPC?

Since you are a player Thrashia, like the rest of us, our objection is that you created a character, took control of a world, that none of us if we follow our rules would be allowed to do. You as a Player, the man behind the Thrashian Empire, now control Coruscant with your "NPC". So my question is now, does everyone have the ability to play Tycho, without talking to you (Since no player owns a Non Player Character) for the purpose of story, and the same playability including decisions without consulting you? If not then it's not an NPC but the player Thrashia's character. If so, then that's fine and admit that Tycho is your character.

Now i am aware that you are not SIthy, and that you won't use Tycho to support yourself 100% or be a puppet to the Thrashian Empire. My biggest concern here is not you, but the precident it sets for other players. Simply put after you did your Sympathy Annexation, the largest land grab expedition occurred using your actions as precedent, with land take overs, poorly written military offensives and dipl-offensives that nearly caused a lot of problems. I do care about this RP community, as I know you do and I don't want to go down that slippery slope again.

Now if this is for DD, I get it, and I'm fine with it as long as Tycho isn't leader by the end of it. If this is permanent, then all players should have equal access to controlling Tycho since no player owns any NPC, thus is equally owned and shared by all players then that's fine to. If none of these are the case, then I'm afraid that a new precedent will be set one that might cause more strife in our community as others take advantage of your new precedent. You must remember, not everyone thinks or agrees that Nationstates or this RP community has a DM, or needs one.

[New Dornalia]

OK, so ND has been explaining more in detail some of the concerns you guys had on IRC. He'll be getting our entire conversation copy-pasted over to anyone that would like it.

OG and Hunt; check TGs. Anyone else need the verbatim transcript, lemme know and I'll send it over.