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Capitalist International (CAPITERN) Alliance

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Re: Capitalism International (Redone)

Postby Brydog » Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:56 am

Brydog wrote:Application to Join:
Nation name: Wolfenhalle
Views on Capitalism and Communism: Capitalism is Good, against authoritarian forms of Communism.
Nation population: 13.291 billion
National political party in power: Wolfenhaller Traditionalist Party
Current conflicts: none
Level of membership: VP
President Erika Stossberg
Vice President Karl Flieger
Wolfenhaller National People's Party
The Liberal Democratic Republic of Wolfenhalle
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Re: Capitalism International (Redone)

Postby Brydog » Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:57 am

Application to Join:
Nation name: Wolfenhalle
Views on Capitalism and Communism: Capitalism is Good, against authoritarian forms of Communism.
Nation population: 13.291 billion
National political party in power: Wolfenhaller Traditionalist Party
Current conflicts: none
Level of membership: VP
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President Erika Stossberg
Vice President Karl Flieger
Wolfenhaller National People's Party
The Liberal Democratic Republic of Wolfenhalle
Dictatorships foster oppression, dictatorships foster servitude, dictatorships foster cruelty; more abominable is the fact that they foster idiocy." - Jorge Luis Borges

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Re: Capitalism International (Redone)

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:05 am

Brydog wrote:Application to Join:
Nation name: Wolfenhalle
Views on Capitalism and Communism: Capitalism is Good, against authoritarian forms of Communism.
Nation population: 13.291 billion
National political party in power: Wolfenhaller Traditionalist Party
Current conflicts: none
Level of membership: VP

Acceptedyou are now VP

NOTE: One more member must join in order for the alliance to hold its first meeting.

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Crabulonia
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Re: Capitalism International (Redone)

Postby Crabulonia » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:50 am

This is very much a mirror image of Comintern isn't it?

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Re: Capitalism International (Redone)

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:52 am

Crabulonia wrote:This is very much a mirror image of Comintern isn't it?

No, we are not that far to the right as COMINTERN is to the left in terms of political stances.

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:49 am

I urge all members to take a look at this.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13702

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby Ketrily » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:03 pm

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On behalf of my humble nation, I would like to extend our wish to join this brilliant alliance.

Nation name: The Republic Of Ketrily

Views on Capitalism and Communism: Capitalism is a system that allows that Industrial, Scienctific, and Cultural progress to be shared freely, and where those who wish to do well in the world, and as long as they hold determination and intellignce at their side, shall be able to triumph, and unlock many riches in life. Communism, however, encourages the opposite.

Nation population: 480 million (And rapidly rising)

National political party in power: The Dominion of Freedom Party

Current conflicts: At the time of Application, None

Level of membership: Diplomatic Officer
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Economic Left/Right: 6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.59

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Moral Order: -0.5
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A White Hawk
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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:05 pm

Ketrily wrote:[img]httpimg258.imageshack.usimg2584935letterfromketrily.th8.png[/img]

On behalf of my humble nation, I would like to extend our wish to join this brilliant alliance.

Nation name: The Republic Of Ketrily

Views on Capitalism and Communism: Capitalism is a system that allows that Industrial, Scienctific, and Cultural progress to be shared freely, and where those who wish to do well in the world, and as long as they hold determination and intellignce at their side, shall be able to triumph, and unlock many riches in life. Communism, however, encourages the opposite.

Nation population: 480 million (And rapidly rising)

National political party in power: The Dominion of Freedom Party

Current conflicts: At the time of Application, None

Level of membership: Diplomatic Officer



Accepted. I need to you to send me a TG about your RP skills and the I will brief you.

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A White Hawk
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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:06 pm

NOTE: First alliance meeting held tomorrow at 10 A.M. US Eastern Time. We shall discuss alliance roles, stances, goals, the flag, and foreign and domestic relations.

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby Stoklomolvi » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:17 pm

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby Kagetora » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:47 pm

I would just like to say, that this alliance is basically glorifying Communism by stealing their idea. It does not look good. Kinda like why the Fascintern never became an alliance/
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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby Crabulonia » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:04 pm

Views on Capitalism and Communism: Capitalism is a system that allows that Industrial, Scienctific, and Cultural progress to be shared freely*, and where those who wish to do well in the world, and as long as they hold determination and intellignce at their side, shall be able to triumph, and unlock many riches in life**. Communism, however, encourages the opposite.***


I find your naivete on this topic quite adorable, a few points.

* You are suggesting that a system designed where people seek only to make money, shares all of its acheivements together. Taking the pharmaceutical industry as an example, this is completely wrong. Medicines are not provided for everyone for free by the loving companies are they?

** This point is interesting because yes there are stories of desolate individuals with not a hope at the start of their life growing into succesful billionaires. But there are people definitely as intelligent in different situations which outright exclude them, there are people in Africa who are easily as smart as investment bankers but they are not favoured by their system.

***Communism encourages the sharing of all triumph. It does not deny that people should do the best they can, but rather than be motivated for the quest for money, they are motivated to improve the society around them.

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President of Crabulonia, Alexei Wall of the ANTU (Anarchist National Trade Union)

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:10 pm

Kagetora wrote:I would just like to say, that this alliance is basically glorifying Communism by stealing their idea. It does not look good. Kinda like why the Fascintern never became an alliance/


Let me tell you their is NO PATENT or law that says we can not name our alliance this or run our alliance like this. If their is one, please bring it to my attention.

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby Kagetora » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:14 pm

A White Hawk wrote:
Kagetora wrote:I would just like to say, that this alliance is basically glorifying Communism by stealing their idea. It does not look good. Kinda like why the Fascintern never became an alliance/


Let me tell you their is NO PATENT or law that says we can not name our alliance this or run our alliance like this. If their is one, please bring it to my attention.


I never said you couldn't. Where did I say that? I'm just saying it looks like you're copying another ideology, which you apparently don't like. It doesn't look good, and makes the alliance look inferior. There was an alliance named Fascintern, but all those who were ICly serious about Fascism/Imperialism shot it down saying "It makes you look inferior to Communism/Comintern!"
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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:20 pm

Crabulonia wrote:* You are suggesting that a system designed where people seek only to make money, shares all of its acheivements together. Taking the pharmaceutical industry as an example, this is completely wrong. Medicines are not provided for everyone for free by the loving companies are they?


Capitalism is an economic idea not a political ideology (please get your facts straight). In this alliance we encourage and prefer libertarian (true liberalism) type political values which totally go against modern liberalism.

** This point is interesting because yes there are stories of desolate individuals with not a hope at the start of their life growing into succesful billionaires. But there are people definitely as intelligent in different situations which outright exclude them, there are people in Africa who are easily as smart as investment bankers but they are not favoured by their system.


So basically, you should take away the rights and earnings of those people who work hard and distribute to those who are less intelligent and do less work. Sounds intelligent. :palm:

***Communism encourages the sharing of all triumph. It does not deny that people should do the best they can, but rather than be motivated for the quest for money, they are motivated to improve the society around them.


And that is the problem with Communism. It does not encourage human individually, and therefore will never be successful. Modern humans are not meant to be grouped and ruled by strong authority and will eventually resist in favor of more rights, exc.

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:24 pm

Kagetora wrote:
A White Hawk wrote:
Kagetora wrote:I would just like to say, that this alliance is basically glorifying Communism by stealing their idea. It does not look good. Kinda like why the Fascintern never became an alliance/


Let me tell you their is NO PATENT or law that says we can not name our alliance this or run our alliance like this. If their is one, please bring it to my attention.


I never said you couldn't. Where did I say that? I'm just saying it looks like you're copying another ideology, which you apparently don't like. It doesn't look good, and makes the alliance look inferior. There was an alliance named Fascintern, but all those who were ICly serious about Fascism/Imperialism shot it down saying "It makes you look inferior to Communism/Comintern!"


This is a Capitalist/Libertarian alliance, not a extremist alliance like that of this so called "Fascintern."

Please point out any similar political/structural ideas we share with Comitern and I shall change them (Excluding the name).

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby Kagetora » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:26 pm

A White Hawk wrote:This is a Capitalist/Libertarian alliance, not a extremist alliance like that of this so called "Fascintern."

Please point out any similar political/structural ideas we share with Comitern and I shall change them (Excluding the name).


I have no problem with anything but the name. But I'm not planning on joining, so I'll shut up now.
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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:27 pm

Kagetora wrote:
A White Hawk wrote:This is a Capitalist/Libertarian alliance, not a extremist alliance like that of this so called "Fascintern."

Please point out any similar political/structural ideas we share with Comitern and I shall change them (Excluding the name).


I have no problem with anything but the name. But I'm not planning on joining, so I'll shut up now.

One last thing.

I notice you are an IFA and GIA member which concludes you are Fascist. I assumed you had no intention of joining.

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby Kagetora » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:30 pm

Actually Imperialist, but the difference to people on NS is neglible so whatever.
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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:31 pm

Kagetora wrote:Actually Imperialist, but the difference to people on NS is neglible so whatever.

Ah, Imperialist. Ok, I have bit more respect for you now.

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby Kagetora » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:41 pm

A White Hawk wrote:
Kagetora wrote:Actually Imperialist, but the difference to people on NS is neglible so whatever.

Ah, Imperialist. Ok, I have bit more respect for you now.

Yay? Shutting up now.
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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:31 pm

BUMP

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby Jakra » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:40 pm

Official Communique From the Federal States of Jakra, Ministry of State

The Federal States of Jakra hereby condemns this alliance on the basis it promotes ignorance towards the political left, and encourages a corrupt and broken system. Therefore the FSJ sincerely hopes that all who join this alliance live long enough to the their beloved capitalist system collapse around them, while the true systems of the left live on and thrive long after capitalism's demise.
-Jakran Minister of State, David Pelad

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:46 pm

Comaack wrote:Nation name: The Reich of Comaack
Views on Capitalism and Communism: We love Capitalism, we tolerate the Communists but are willing to defend ourselves and throw in an occasional propaganda film.
Nation population: 1.9 Billion
National political party in power: United Cipolloist Party
Current conflicts: None
Level of membership: VP

ACCEPTED but, you have been given the status of PART-MEMBER due to frequent political instability in your nation.

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Re: CAPITERN Alliance

Postby A White Hawk » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:48 pm

Comaack wrote:Wait, Political Instability is an occasional terrorist attack, or the entire flag issue.

OOC: I thought Arivida is annexing you.

IC: Add it in your signature you are a member. Also, meeting will be held tomorrow at 10 AM ET US.
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