The Great War of the World( Closed; CAS Only RP)

[The Parthian Crown]

Following suit after the mighty Black Sea Fleet of the Nova Roma, the Royal Fleet of the Crown King Akos, has deemed it worthy to seize up land in the Aydean, following the crumbling of the government. The Navy and Army of Croatia and Hungary have been sent forth by his royal majesty. The 24 missile ships and landing craft carry the force of the Croatian Army (12,500 soldiers) and that of Hungary (15,000 soldiers) on board. The fleet makes way for the Asian nations of Myanmar (Burma), Cambodia, and Thailand. The crumbling pockets of resistence against the invasion will not be sufficient to hold these territories from this initial push into these Aydean nations.

[Confederation of imperial states]

A unsuprising turn in the border conflict between the CIS and the Chinese Nationalists today, the Chinese nationalist army has placed an army of 75,000 at the Manchurian border which greatly outnumbers the CIS force of 5,000. the Chinese sent a message to the CIS stating,

To: the CIS
From: The Chinese Nationalist Army
Grive us Manchuria and your nation will be unharmed, don't and we'll invade, and take the entire eastern half of russia from you

.

CIS president Vladimir Reznov has stated the CIS will not Abandon the Manchuria people who have freely wanted to join the CIS and has now assigned the CIS 1st Division to be moved to Manchuria to protect the region. the CIS will not back down from the Chinese Nationalists.

- 1st Division will arrive in Manchuria in: 23 hours
- chinese nationalists invade in: 2 hours
- Chinese Reinforcements will arrive to support the invading force in: 25 hours

and so it begins...

[The Great Nova Roma]

The divided powers of Indonesia, Malasia, and Brunei have succumbed Nova Roman forces with little to no resistence. In many of the cities throughout, citizens joined the Nova Roman troops in the fight to reclaim their countries. The capital cities have been overtaken, and the in following weeks peace will be restored, and once stability has been retored, democratic elections for representation of the people will be held for the first time in the Indonesian Archipelago. The one city to withhold against Nova Roma is Singapore, a center of Aydean power, where the crumbling Aydean power has held out, but the might of the BSF and its full firepower turns towards Singapore and is expected to route the remaining military strength of Aydean.

[The Great Nova Roma]

A unsuprising turn in the border conflict between the CIS and the Chinese Nationalists today, the Chinese nationalist army has placed an army of 75,000 at the Manchurian border which greatly outnumbers the CIS force of 5,000. the Chinese sent a message to the CIS stating,

To: the CIS
From: The Chinese Nationalist Army
Grive us Manchuria and your nation will be unharmed, don't and we'll invade, and take the entire eastern half of russia from you

.

CIS president Vladimir Reznov has stated the CIS will not Abandon the Manchuria people who have freely wanted to join the CIS and has now assigned the CIS 1st Division to be moved to Manchuria to protect the region. the CIS will not back down from the Chinese Nationalists.

- 1st Division will arrive in Manchuria in: 23 hours
- chinese nationalists invade in: 2 hours
- Chinese Reinforcements will arrive to support the invading force in: 25 hours

and so it begins...

The Great Nova Roma will be willing to give what military aid it can spare to aid you in this combat if requested. As always, you can count on our support. Although our military force is tied down in the securing of the Indonesian Archipelago, but when we can, you can call on us.

[Confederation of imperial states]

[Vladimir's office]

Vladimir sits in his office with his minister,

what's the situation with the Chinese invasion?, Considering the nationalists are fighting a brutal war with Indochina, the Nationalists invasion force has no tanks or artillery. they'll be invading Manchuria with Troops and Troop tansports.. ....you're kidding me>, no sir, they seem to underestimate our forces in manchuria. they will be targeting Blastbrooke, probably to gain a foothold, but don't worry sir, unlike the chinese we have plenty of tanks and artillery stationed at blastbrooke., so...when will they be invading?. the Minister looks at his watch, now...
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[The Chinese Nationalist Military Crosses the Manchurian Border with a large invasion force]
Chinese Nationalists:
- 75,000 Poorly armed infantry
- 5,000 2015 military transport trucks

[Confederation of imperial states]

A unsuprising turn in the border conflict between the CIS and the Chinese Nationalists today, the Chinese nationalist army has placed an army of 75,000 at the Manchurian border which greatly outnumbers the CIS force of 5,000. the Chinese sent a message to the CIS stating,

To: the CIS
From: The Chinese Nationalist Army
Grive us Manchuria and your nation will be unharmed, don't and we'll invade, and take the entire eastern half of russia from you

.

CIS president Vladimir Reznov has stated the CIS will not Abandon the Manchuria people who have freely wanted to join the CIS and has now assigned the CIS 1st Division to be moved to Manchuria to protect the region. the CIS will not back down from the Chinese Nationalists.

- 1st Division will arrive in Manchuria in: 23 hours
- chinese nationalists invade in: 2 hours
- Chinese Reinforcements will arrive to support the invading force in: 25 hours

and so it begins...

The Great Nova Roma will be willing to give what military aid it can spare to aid you in this combat if requested. As always, you can count on our support. Although our military force is tied down in the securing of the Indonesian Archipelago, but when we can, you can call on us.

The CIS Thanks Nova Roma for the Offer of Support but for Now it is not necessary, we have troops on route to back up the forces in manchuria

[Shaler]

It was happening...
The thing the Shalian government had been fearing would happen all along...
Argentinian jet planes where bombing brazil...

Inside Shalian war room, 2015

5:18 AM

"THIS PROMPTS AN IMEDIATE RESPONSE!"
"No lets not be hasty General!"
"They are ATTACKING Shalian soil! What would you have us do? Simply let them bomb us into submission!"

"Gentleman!" Yelled Presidente Davi.
The soldiers and generals in the room instantly snap to attention a preform a Shalian salute (Ball your right fist, and place it over your heart)
"I am in favor of supporting an invasion, but please Mr. Blanco tell me why you don't want this?"
"Well for one... it would cripple industry to call the militia into service..."
"Always with you and your damn industries..." Replied on of the generals.

"I have no intention of calling the workers party to fight... As a matter of fact, I recall giving the order last night to stay indoors and equip in case of an emergency..."
"They are still out of the businesses and factories Presidente."
"I will not have my people working while we have a war going on... That's final..."
"Yes Presidente."
"High General Donato Bermudo, Call the Infantaria Da Selva and Exército Choque Shalian... March on Argentina by tonight. Minister of defense, get the AA guns firing, and scramble the Víboras."
"As you command."
"Get the admiral to remain vigilant also. We have no idea if Argentina has allies."
"Yes Presidente!"

OOC: This isn't a claim on Argentina, but I am going to war with them and will soon claim them.

[The Parthian Crown]

[/quote]The CIS Thanks Nova Roma for the Offer of Support but for Now it is not necessary, we have troops on route to back up the forces in manchuria[/quote]

Pleased to help. As it stands, Nova Roman troops will be held down taking Singapore, securing the Indonesian Islands, and providing military support to our allies in the Parthian Kingdom in their invasion of Indochina, which I hope will work in all our favors. As Indochina and China fight between themselves, we should be able to take advantage and press into the former Aydean realms.

[Confederation of imperial states]

The CIS Thanks Nova Roma for the Offer of Support but for Now it is not necessary, we have troops on route to back up the forces in manchuria[/quote]

Pleased to help. As it stands, Nova Roman troops will be held down taking Singapore, securing the Indonesian Islands, and providing military support to our allies in the Parthian Kingdom in their invasion of Indochina, which I hope will work in all our favors. As Indochina and China fight between themselves, we should be able to take advantage and press into the former Aydean realms.[/quote]

The CIS is currently planning on invading and expanding into the rest of china after we've gained control and have repelled the Nationalists invasion force. We will however liberate the region known as Tibet from nationalist annexation.

[Confederation of imperial states]

[Seige of Blastbrooke]

The Chinese militants threw themselves at the Citadel, confident that their sheer numbers would overwhelm the CIS forces that only numbered at 5,000. the CIS prepared for their assault and heavily entrenched the Citadel with fortifications, barricades, and booby traps.

the Nationalists charged the CIS citadel and atacked from all southern ends. the CIS retaliated with artillery, tank and machine gun fire, the Chinese Nationalists were caught off guard by the sheer amount of firepower the CIS forces mustered against them ven at their small size. the Nationalists were bombarded by both tank and artillery fire when they charged, both ob their trucks and on foot. when they reached the moats they only found more of a mess and hell when they walked straight into a moat filled with barbed wire and shrapnel, as well as being mowed down by the CIS machine guns mounted on the Citadel walls. The charges happened every hours, which lasted for 15 hours.

at the end of the assault, the chinese Nationalists crawled out of Manchuria, batered and bloody by the massacre they walked into at blastbrooke. the CIS Reinforcements arrived just a few hours later, then began the CIS's counter offensive, to push the Chinese from the Manchuria border.
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Casualties:
CIS:
- 265 CIS infantry
Chinese Nationalists:
- 16,674 poorly armed infantry
- 1,784 2015 military troop transport trucks

CIS Reinforcements:
- 600,000 Heavily armed infantry
- 1,500 Tanks
- 200 Rocket Artillery
- 2,000 Afv's

[Brovarria]

[Seige of Blastbrooke]

The Chinese militants threw themselves at the Citadel, confident that their sheer numbers would overwhelm the CIS forces that only numbered at 5,000. the CIS prepared for their assault and heavily entrenched the Citadel with fortifications, barricades, and booby traps.

the Nationalists charged the CIS citadel and atacked from all southern ends. the CIS retaliated with artillery, tank and machine gun fire, the Chinese Nationalists were caught off guard by the sheer amount of firepower the CIS forces mustered against them ven at their small size. the Nationalists were bombarded by both tank and artillery fire when they charged, both ob their trucks and on foot. when they reached the moats they only found more of a mess and hell when they walked straight into a moat filled with barbed wire and shrapnel, as well as being mowed down by the CIS machine guns mounted on the Citadel walls.

at the end of the assault, the chinese Nationalists crawled out of Manchuria, batered and bloody by the massacre they walked into at blastbrooke. the CIS Reinforcements arrived just a few hours later, then began the CIS's counter offensive, to push the Chinese from the Manchuria border.
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Casualties:
CIS:
- none, i'm not even kidding
Chinese Nationalists:
- 21,674 poorly armed infantry
- 2,784 2015 military troop transport trucks

CIS Reinforcements:
- 600,000 Heavily armed infantry
- 1,500 Tanks
- 200 Rocket Artillery
- 2,000 Afv's

With danger close to Brovarria, our government, has proposed a coalition of CIS and Brovarrian forces to help eradicate the nationalist movement. A CIS reply is still pending.

[Shaler]

It has begun.....

Argentinio-Shalian border, 2015

15:00

"RUN UP THE GUNS!"
"GIVE EM' EVERYTHING YOU HAVE!"
"UHHHRAAAAAA!"

The tank batteries opened up and began shelling the Argentinian border defenses. Víbora fighter jets had been shooting down Argentinian bombers all day, and it was finally safe enough for the tanks batteries and infantry to move up. The Argentinians had fortified their positions in the jungles and were ready for Shalian soldiers. This would be a hard fought war....

Shalian group designated SCAF (Shalian counter attack force)
Argentinian border defenses designated as ABD (Argentinian border defenses)

ABD forces:
15,000 rugged militia; well trained in jungle warfare, excellent guerrilla fighters.
1,500 Infantería antitanque; Strong Anti-tank infantry, also quite capable of doing damage to infantry
300 APC's
1st Choque ejército artillería; 120; anti-tank guns, 50; 125 caliber artillery guns, 250; SPG-9's.

SCAF forces
150,000 Infantaria Da Selva
2nd Exército Choque Shalian (The whole thing)
250 Víbora fighter panes (Can function as light bombers)
400 Main battle tanks
APC's to accompany the Choque army

Only time will tell, but for now the battle rages on.

[Shaler]

[Seige of Blastbrooke]

The Chinese militants threw themselves at the Citadel, confident that their sheer numbers would overwhelm the CIS forces that only numbered at 5,000. the CIS prepared for their assault and heavily entrenched the Citadel with fortifications, barricades, and booby traps.

the Nationalists charged the CIS citadel and atacked from all southern ends. the CIS retaliated with artillery, tank and machine gun fire, the Chinese Nationalists were caught off guard by the sheer amount of firepower the CIS forces mustered against them ven at their small size. the Nationalists were bombarded by both tank and artillery fire when they charged, both ob their trucks and on foot. when they reached the moats they only found more of a mess and hell when they walked straight into a moat filled with barbed wire and shrapnel, as well as being mowed down by the CIS machine guns mounted on the Citadel walls.

at the end of the assault, the chinese Nationalists crawled out of Manchuria, batered and bloody by the massacre they walked into at blastbrooke. the CIS Reinforcements arrived just a few hours later, then began the CIS's counter offensive, to push the Chinese from the Manchuria border.
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Casualties:
CIS:
- none, i'm not even kidding
Chinese Nationalists:
- 21,674 poorly armed infantry
- 2,784 2015 military troop transport trucks

CIS Reinforcements:
- 600,000 Heavily armed infantry
- 1,500 Tanks
- 200 Rocket Artillery
- 2,000 Afv's

Your men would run out of ammo before you could kill that many of them... Or they would run away...
War isn't about killing the enemy, it's about making them retreat or surrender.. There is no possible way you would achieve that casualty count realistically in one attack...

[The Great Nova Roma]

After a massive naval battle in the Singapore Straight, the last remnants of the fallen Aydean dynasty has been routed and driven from power. All the land between Thailand and Papua New Guinea has been unified as the new realm of the Asiatic Nova Roma, to be divided as a division of the realm into two sections. Prime Minister Theodosius himself has flown to Singapore, the newly declared regional capital of the Asiatic, to declare the new democratic elections for the Asiatic Nova Roman Parliment, held in Singapore, and held in ruled over by the Prime Minister of Nova Roma as a whole.

OOC: So basically, I'm dividing the nation into two states of the Roma Europa (Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, and West Greece) and Roma Asiatica (Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, and Brunei), each controlling a local parliment, with both parliment wings under the Federal Congress, with representitives from all nations of the Great Nova Roma, headed by the Prime Minister of all of Nova Roma.

[Shaler]

Against all odds, the Argentinian Border Defenses have held!

After having an extensive pre planned defense network, access to anti-tank weapons and artillery, and foreign weaponry the Argentinian Border defenses managed to hold off the first night of Shalian forces. Initially the SCAF pushed into the small border town with APC's, and they were immediately met with heavy resistance. The SCAF then immediately rushed reinforcements to the APC's only to be beat back. The Second wave came with full intent to win, and was crippled by enemy emplacements, and a unknown force of guerrillas springing up behind them. The final attack failed due to some of the APC's fuel lines being shot and them being immobilized. The last SCAF attack made it past the border unsupported, but was then pushed back by a fierce counter-attack. And on top of that the ABD have yet to even deploy their APC's to the front.

This night belongs to Argentina.

ABD casualties (estimates)
6,000 Rugged militia
760 Infantería antitanque
20 SPG-9's, 30 anti-tank guns
400 Unknown guerrillas

SCAF casualties
9,745 Infantaria Da Selva
7,526 Choque Infantaria
40 APC's destroyed
120 APC's damaged


Shalian soldier moving to the Argentinian border.

[Confederation of imperial states]

[Seige of Blastbrooke]

The Chinese militants threw themselves at the Citadel, confident that their sheer numbers would overwhelm the CIS forces that only numbered at 5,000. the CIS prepared for their assault and heavily entrenched the Citadel with fortifications, barricades, and booby traps.

the Nationalists charged the CIS citadel and atacked from all southern ends. the CIS retaliated with artillery, tank and machine gun fire, the Chinese Nationalists were caught off guard by the sheer amount of firepower the CIS forces mustered against them ven at their small size. the Nationalists were bombarded by both tank and artillery fire when they charged, both ob their trucks and on foot. when they reached the moats they only found more of a mess and hell when they walked straight into a moat filled with barbed wire and shrapnel, as well as being mowed down by the CIS machine guns mounted on the Citadel walls.

at the end of the assault, the chinese Nationalists crawled out of Manchuria, batered and bloody by the massacre they walked into at blastbrooke. the CIS Reinforcements arrived just a few hours later, then began the CIS's counter offensive, to push the Chinese from the Manchuria border.
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Casualties:
CIS:
- none, i'm not even kidding
Chinese Nationalists:
- 21,674 poorly armed infantry
- 2,784 2015 military troop transport trucks

CIS Reinforcements:
- 600,000 Heavily armed infantry
- 1,500 Tanks
- 200 Rocket Artillery
- 2,000 Afv's

Your men would run out of ammo before you could kill that many of them... Or they would run away...
War isn't about killing the enemy, it's about making them retreat or surrender.. There is no possible way you would achieve that casualty count realistically in one attack...

they were poorly armed, had nothing but infantry and transports. i'll shrink the casualty count to some degree but the Nationalists were charging the citadel in hopes that the CIS weren't ready. and don't think the CIS well be getting any easy battles in the future, the next ones will be brutal for both sides.

[Confederation of imperial states]

[Seige of Blastbrooke]

The Chinese militants threw themselves at the Citadel, confident that their sheer numbers would overwhelm the CIS forces that only numbered at 5,000. the CIS prepared for their assault and heavily entrenched the Citadel with fortifications, barricades, and booby traps.

the Nationalists charged the CIS citadel and atacked from all southern ends. the CIS retaliated with artillery, tank and machine gun fire, the Chinese Nationalists were caught off guard by the sheer amount of firepower the CIS forces mustered against them ven at their small size. the Nationalists were bombarded by both tank and artillery fire when they charged, both ob their trucks and on foot. when they reached the moats they only found more of a mess and hell when they walked straight into a moat filled with barbed wire and shrapnel, as well as being mowed down by the CIS machine guns mounted on the Citadel walls.

at the end of the assault, the chinese Nationalists crawled out of Manchuria, batered and bloody by the massacre they walked into at blastbrooke. the CIS Reinforcements arrived just a few hours later, then began the CIS's counter offensive, to push the Chinese from the Manchuria border.
-----------------------------------
Casualties:
CIS:
- none, i'm not even kidding
Chinese Nationalists:
- 21,674 poorly armed infantry
- 2,784 2015 military troop transport trucks

CIS Reinforcements:
- 600,000 Heavily armed infantry
- 1,500 Tanks
- 200 Rocket Artillery
- 2,000 Afv's

With danger close to Brovarria, our government, has proposed a coalition of CIS and Brovarrian forces to help eradicate the nationalist movement. A CIS reply is still pending.

to: the government of brovarria
from: CIS
we have heard your proposal and think creaing a coalition would be a good idea, however the Fighting in manchuria is mostly under control when we rcieved our reinforcements. however we think creating a coalition would be good for the nations fighting the remenants of the Adyean.

[Confederation of imperial states]

CIS forces have pushed Chinese Nationalists from the Northern Manchurian - Chinese border. the Encounter started When CIS forces moved through the northern mountain passes and looped behind the Chinese Nationalists. the CIS blocked the Nationalists from both sides and assaulted them in their encampment, when th CIS arrivbed at the Encampment the Naionalists looked half dead from the freezing tempatures but still whatever soldiers weren't frozen solid, picked up their rifles and returned fire. the CIS took over the encampment and pushed the Nationalists from the northern half of the border. the CIS have renovated the encampment to prepare for the nationalists's atempt to retake the Encampment.

[Casualties]:
CIS:
- 574 Heavy infantry
Nationalists:
- 1,784 militia men
- 3,892 froze to death
- 200 2015 Troop transport trucks (captured)

[Shaler]

Your men would run out of ammo before you could kill that many of them... Or they would run away...
War isn't about killing the enemy, it's about making them retreat or surrender.. There is no possible way you would achieve that casualty count realistically in one attack...

they were poorly armed, had nothing but infantry and transports. i'll shrink the casualty count to some degree but the Nationalists were charging the citadel in hopes that the CIS weren't ready. and don't think the CIS well be getting any easy battles in the future, the next ones will be brutal for both sides.

Actually it would help your case to say that the enemy repeatedly charged them. It isn't godmodding because of the casualty count alone, it is godmodding because in order to kill 21,000 people in one attack, that whole fort would have needed to be full of ammo, and you would need to have all of the enemy attack from one side. There is simply no way your men wouldn't be overwhelmed, unless the enemy was using only melee weapons (And from what I can tell, Ayden was a rather powerful nation). This would be a Russia vs Germany scenario (With you as Germany) Numbers always win in the end, so long as your equipment if from the 1940's forward. They could be using shit from ww2 and they would still win. So I would suggest either making a shitload of the Nationalists run away for no reason, or simply saying that that battle never happened.

[Confederation of imperial states]

they were poorly armed, had nothing but infantry and transports. i'll shrink the casualty count to some degree but the Nationalists were charging the citadel in hopes that the CIS weren't ready. and don't think the CIS well be getting any easy battles in the future, the next ones will be brutal for both sides.

Actually it would help your case to say that the enemy repeatedly charged them. It isn't godmodding because of the casualty count alone, it is godmodding because in order to kill 21,000 people in one attack, that whole fort would have needed to be full of ammo, and you would need to have all of the enemy attack from one side. There is simply no way your men wouldn't be overwhelmed, unless the enemy was using only melee weapons (And from what I can tell, Ayden was a rather powerful nation). This would be a Russia vs Germany scenario (With you as Germany) Numbers always win in the end, so long as your equipment if from the 1940's forward. They could be using shit from ww2 and they would still win. So I would suggest either making a shitload of the Nationalists run away for no reason, or simply saying that that battle never happened.

These are not the Adyean. What you would call the Adyean broke into the Indo-china, china, and Indonesia. The Chinese are fighting the Indo-china forces in the south so they had no well armed forces to send up north. They thought with the overwhelming force they could overtake the citadel and win but instead, they walked into a massacre for themselves. Whatever well armed forces are concentrated in the southern region of china. At some point, they did see that if they would keep throwing themselves at the citadel they were just going to get killed so in put, a shit load of nationalists did run away.

[Confederation of imperial states]

[CIS northern china invasion]

After pushing the Chinese nationalists from the northern Manchuria border, CIS forces have pushed into northern china and have started through the northern lands of china. The Chinese forces in the north have not been able to muster a successful counter offensive seeing as how most of their forces are concentrated in the south, fighting Indo-china. Mongolia, who is the stuck between the CIS and china have allowed the CIS to pass troops through their country into china, they now see china as a common enemy and wish to join the CIS in due time.

[Shaler]

Actually it would help your case to say that the enemy repeatedly charged them. It isn't godmodding because of the casualty count alone, it is godmodding because in order to kill 21,000 people in one attack, that whole fort would have needed to be full of ammo, and you would need to have all of the enemy attack from one side. There is simply no way your men wouldn't be overwhelmed, unless the enemy was using only melee weapons (And from what I can tell, Ayden was a rather powerful nation). This would be a Russia vs Germany scenario (With you as Germany) Numbers always win in the end, so long as your equipment if from the 1940's forward. They could be using shit from ww2 and they would still win. So I would suggest either making a shitload of the Nationalists run away for no reason, or simply saying that that battle never happened.

These are not the Adyean. What you would call the Adyean broke into the Indo-china, china, and Indonesia. The Chinese are fighting the Indo-china forces in the south so they had no well armed forces to send up north. They thought with the overwhelming force they could overtake the citadel and win but instead, they walked into a massacre for themselves. Whatever well armed forces are concentrated in the southern region of china. At some point, they did see that if they would keep throwing themselves at the citadel they were just going to get killed so in put, a shit load of nationalists did run away.

I don't think you understand what I mean.... It would be literally impossible for you to win.... Never mind have no casualties... Even if they are armed with bolt action rifles or pistols they would have won CIS......

They had 20,000 soldiers... Even if they had muskets they might have won.... because that is 20,000 bullets coming at your men.

Your forces would have been pinned down before they could have even peeked up over the wall, then they would have been rushed and overwhelmed.... The 20,000 that was attacking you could only realistically be 15,000 with about 4,000 of them running away with no reason for you to even have a chance.....

[Confederation of imperial states]

These are not the Adyean. What you would call the Adyean broke into the Indo-china, china, and Indonesia. The Chinese are fighting the Indo-china forces in the south so they had no well armed forces to send up north. They thought with the overwhelming force they could overtake the citadel and win but instead, they walked into a massacre for themselves. Whatever well armed forces are concentrated in the southern region of china. At some point, they did see that if they would keep throwing themselves at the citadel they were just going to get killed so in put, a shit load of nationalists did run away.

I don't think you understand what I mean.... It would be literally impossible for you to win.... Never mind have no casualties... Even if they are armed with bolt action rifles or pistols they would have won CIS......

They had 20,000 soldiers... Even if they had muskets they might have won.... because that is 20,000 bullets coming at your men.

Your forces would have been pinned down before they could have even peeked up over the wall, then they would have been rushed and overwhelmed.... The 20,000 that was attacking you could only realistically be 15,000 with about 4,000 of them running away with no reason for you to even have a chance.....

The attacking force was around 25,000 and the defending force was 5,000. After around 16,000 of their men died it woudl be realistic for their men to realize that retreating was the correct choice in the battle.

[Brovarria]

I don't think you understand what I mean.... It would be literally impossible for you to win.... Never mind have no casualties... Even if they are armed with bolt action rifles or pistols they would have won CIS......

They had 20,000 soldiers... Even if they had muskets they might have won.... because that is 20,000 bullets coming at your men.

Your forces would have been pinned down before they could have even peeked up over the wall, then they would have been rushed and overwhelmed.... The 20,000 that was attacking you could only realistically be 15,000 with about 4,000 of them running away with no reason for you to even have a chance.....

The attacking force was around 25,000 and the defending force was 5,000. After around 16,000 of their men died it woudl be realistic for their men to realize that retreating was the correct choice in the battle.

*NEW TELEGRAM*

With China close to the borders of Brovarria, and the recent uprisings and battles Brovarrian officials have announced that Brovarria will be stepping in on the battles upon the CIS approval of this act. CIS must comply with the following for a coalition with Brovarria: Brovarrian troops do have the right of passage through your country, all battles fought and conquered by Brovarria will become SHARED territory, after the conflict ends the SHARED territory will be divided between CIS and Brovarria. Response is needed ASAP.

[Shaler]

I don't think you understand what I mean.... It would be literally impossible for you to win.... Never mind have no casualties... Even if they are armed with bolt action rifles or pistols they would have won CIS......

They had 20,000 soldiers... Even if they had muskets they might have won.... because that is 20,000 bullets coming at your men.

Your forces would have been pinned down before they could have even peeked up over the wall, then they would have been rushed and overwhelmed.... The 20,000 that was attacking you could only realistically be 15,000 with about 4,000 of them running away with no reason for you to even have a chance.....

The attacking force was around 25,000 and the defending force was 5,000. After around 16,000 of their men died it woudl be realistic for their men to realize that retreating was the correct choice in the battle.

There is still no way in hell you would have no casualties. And the fact that they lost is simply staggering, unless of course they were using knifes as weapons.