Dein Vaterland[OOC/MT/Closed]

[The Selkie]

The sword discussion is quite unusual.

Obviously people used sword ands pikes extensively in WW2 - Cossacks and other Soviet cavalry, German cavalry, the Japanese and the Chinese with swords and even polearms.

We can debate extensively the usefulness of the sword (and in my mind, outside niche scenarios it is less efficient than a bayonet), but it's not per se unrealistic that people would choose to use them.

Allanea, the question is not "Is it realistic for WW2-Forces to use swords?", because you are correct, they did, with varying degrees of efficiency.
The question is "Is it realistic for our MT-Forces to run around with bloody two-handed swords, dane-axes and baseball bats?"

[Gallian Fifth Republic]

Tbh any attack conducted with cold steel after the advent of the tank and the machine gun is more designed to inspire the fear of god in the godless rather than actually stabbing and hacking ppl... at least that's imo... also there's something viscerally frightening about the prospect of getting stabbed when you are already on the verge of running away in defeat, so there's also that.

Also im trying to post but im watching Hibike Euphonium... season 3's here after all...

[Allanea]

If they want to issue them, they should be free to, IMO. Whether this is a good idea is a whole other story.

[The Selkie]

[...]
Also im trying to post but im watching Hibike Euphonium... season 3's here after all...

Ah, I know that song and dance...

[Astares Amauricanum]

[...]
Also im trying to post but im watching Hibike Euphonium... season 3's here after all...

Ah, I know that song and dance...

Is this a good anime?

[The Selkie]

Ah, I know that song and dance...

Is this a good anime?

You'll have to ask ABH about the specifics of that Hibike, I was more talking about other anime, some of which may or may not have inspired several of my RPs...
...I really should host a Tank Fest again this year again, I think.

[Sky Reavers]

You'll have to ask ABH about the specifics of that Hibike, I was more talking about other anime, some of which may or may not have inspired several of my RPs...
...I really should host a Tank Fest again this year again, I think.

A tank fest?

[The Selkie]

You'll have to ask ABH about the specifics of that Hibike, I was more talking about other anime, some of which may or may not have inspired several of my RPs...
...I really should host a Tank Fest again this year again, I think.

A tank fest?

One of these. But this is not the thread to talk about that. ; )

[Independent Republic of Boldonia]

Posted, TL;DR:

• Boldonians at Saipan fix up an A6M, take it for a test flight and find Japanese forces approaching
• Boldonians make plan to throw almost everything they have at Yamoto, starting with destroying Yamoto's escort
• Message from Joseon satellite ignored, Boldonians assume it's a ploy by the Japanese to confuse them and draw them towards Japanese controlled waters near Korea
• Michael Carter knows music at White House, says it's possible that it's Boldonia but it could very well just be anyone from the 21st century
• Lieutenant Commander Eason warns about IRBS Orlando's approach to Chicago and says not to shoot, IRBS Orlando sails into view of naval base

[Sky Reavers]

What if Reavers decide to mount a raid against nazi in North Africa? While also trying to flood Portugal and it's markets with lots of different goods. Spanish frontline shouldn't stagnate after all...

[Gallian Fifth Republic]

What if Reavers decide to mount a raid against nazi in North Africa? While also trying to flood Portugal and it's markets with lots of different goods. Spanish frontline shouldn't stagnate after all...

We must consider that any move by anybody basically on Nazis in North Africa immediately leads to Operation Attila. While idk how much of the Nazi army groups in occupied France is tied up with Astares' invasion/liberation I doubt they're just going to put Operation Attila in the shredder.
I'm just saying, if the French fleet gets rekt in this process things will get harder. Also if British trade and the British alliance with Portugal gets disrupted things will also get harder. Much harder. We'd have to replace basically all of the Mid-Atlantic air patrols ourselves.

[Sky Reavers]

We must consider that any move by anybody basically on Nazis in North Africa immediately leads to Operation Attila. While idk how much of the Nazi army groups in occupied France is tied up with Astares' invasion/liberation I doubt they're just going to put Operation Attila in the shredder.
I'm just saying, if the French fleet gets rekt in this process things will get harder. Also if British trade and the British alliance with Portugal gets disrupted things will also get harder. Much harder. We'd have to replace basically all of the Mid-Atlantic air patrols ourselves.

Thankfully, Reavers can pull the weight and they won't refuse the requests of help agaisnt nazi. Sure, some things will get messed up, but... that's the famous Reaver recklessness for ya'! And it's not like Reavers want to disrupt Portugese trade, they just want to sell their goods through it to the other countries.

[The Selkie]

[...] And it's not like Reavers want to disrupt Portugese trade, they just want to sell their goods through it to the other countries.

Please keep in mind, that Portugal at the time was ruled by a chap by the name of António de Oliveira Salazar. Said Mister Salazar, despite his relationship with the Austrian, is a military dictator ruling the so-called Estado Novo or Portuguese New State.
It is firmly against anarchism, communism, socialism, and a few other -isms.
Also, keep in mind, that Portugal in the 1940s is a highly agrarian country, almost solely reliant on that and its tungsten exports. We are not yet at the drought from 1943 to 1946, but in 1940, we nearly got there. Portugal was also quite isolated during the 1930s, which in part informed politics in the 1940s, even after people realized how neat Tungsten works as a core for AP-ammo.
And even then, exporting things through Portugal to the world - to whom, exactly? Across the Atlantic, with which merchant fleet through the Battle of the Atlantic, Mark III? To which part of Europe? One could make a case for Ireland, which had pre-existing close trade ties to Portugal, seeing that they relied on Portugal as a point of transshipment and for food imports, but calling Ireland poor in the 1940s would be a compliment. So chances of a market there are as limited as in Portugal.
Now, you could make a case for waiting for the Atlantic be cleared, politely asking the Allies, if and on which routes shipments of goods to the US would be possible (which would also give you time to build your own ships, SDY does sell DPRs ; )), plus would enable you to negotiate trade agreements with the US, and then you'd have a market. And/or same with the UK (though I doubt that Churchill would let a Reaver even close to London).

[Nalver And]

Sad day, but I'll probably leave this place and leave this rp shortly after NS is online, other projects and irl has been bugging me for the past few days and I am getting sick of it.
Since the trading cards are going to mostly disappear, if it's true and ALL of my effort back in 2020 disappear there's... Really no point in continuing.

[Sky Reavers]

And even then, exporting things through Portugal to the world - to whom, exactly? Across the Atlantic, with which merchant fleet through the Battle of the Atlantic, Mark III? To which part of Europe? One could make a case for Ireland, which had pre-existing close trade ties to Portugal, seeing that they relied on Portugal as a point of transshipment and for food imports, but calling Ireland poor in the 1940s would be a compliment. So chances of a market there are as limited as in Portugal.
Now, you could make a case for waiting for the Atlantic be cleared, politely asking the Allies, if and on which routes shipments of goods to the US would be possible (which would also give you time to build your own ships, SDY does sell DPRs ; )), plus would enable you to negotiate trade agreements with the US, and then you'd have a market. And/or same with the UK (though I doubt that Churchill would let a Reaver even close to London).

Nice point! I might amend post a little bit and tone epic trade project down. Of course, Atlantic will not be chaotic forever... Still, I bet not many WW2 world powers gonna like Sky Reavers and their antics.

[The Selkie]

And even then, exporting things through Portugal to the world - to whom, exactly? Across the Atlantic, with which merchant fleet through the Battle of the Atlantic, Mark III? To which part of Europe? One could make a case for Ireland, which had pre-existing close trade ties to Portugal, seeing that they relied on Portugal as a point of transshipment and for food imports, but calling Ireland poor in the 1940s would be a compliment. So chances of a market there are as limited as in Portugal.
Now, you could make a case for waiting for the Atlantic be cleared, politely asking the Allies, if and on which routes shipments of goods to the US would be possible (which would also give you time to build your own ships, SDY does sell DPRs ; )), plus would enable you to negotiate trade agreements with the US, and then you'd have a market. And/or same with the UK (though I doubt that Churchill would let a Reaver even close to London).

Nice point! I might amend post a little bit and tone epic trade project down. Of course, Atlantic will not be chaotic forever... Still, I bet not many WW2 world powers gonna like Sky Reavers and their antics.

You're welcome.

[Sky Reavers]

So, Churchill won't like Sky Reaver presence even a bit, huh? I just imagine, that peace conference after the defeat of Germany with Sky Reavers being there would be... very interesting one.

[The Selkie]

So, Churchill won't like Sky Reaver presence even a bit, huh? I just imagine, what peace conference after the defeat of Germany would look like with Sky Reavers being there...

Some people call him somewhat liberal, others somewhat conservative and forget that these terms meant different things back then then they do today. He did push through reforms in his long political career, which were aimed at preserving the social structure as it was - a benevolent paternalist, as it were.
Thing is, he was very much against socialism in any form and as one can place anarchism at the furthest to the left you can go... yeah, he's not gonna like the Reavers.

As for a "Potsdam Conference", presuming there will be a Potsdam after we're all through with the Germans, I personally would like to keep us, from the MT-side of things out of it as much as possible. We defeated the Nazis, dismantled any possible threat to our nations from them and made it clear to the rest of them, that any action taken against us is... unwise.
Let them clean up their own world, we have no business there.

[Sky Reavers]

Some people call him somewhat liberal, others somewhat conservative and forget that these terms meant different things back then then they do today. He did push through reforms in his long political career, which were aimed at preserving the social structure as it was - a benevolent paternalist, as it were.
Thing is, he was very much against socialism in any form and as one can place anarchism at the furthest to the left you can go... yeah, he's not gonna like the Reavers.

As for a "Potsdam Conference", presuming there will be a Potsdam after we're all through with the Germans, I personally would like to keep us, from the MT-side of things out of it as much as possible. We defeated the Nazis, dismantled any possible threat to our nations from them and made it clear to the rest of them, that any action taken against us is... unwise.
Let them clean up their own world, we have no business there.

Well... Reavers are a bit different in approach. They don't care about such things as "cultural contamination" and just spread their culture and ideas like that... A bull in a china shop.

[The Selkie]

Some people call him somewhat liberal, others somewhat conservative and forget that these terms meant different things back then then they do today. He did push through reforms in his long political career, which were aimed at preserving the social structure as it was - a benevolent paternalist, as it were.
Thing is, he was very much against socialism in any form and as one can place anarchism at the furthest to the left you can go... yeah, he's not gonna like the Reavers.

As for a "Potsdam Conference", presuming there will be a Potsdam after we're all through with the Germans, I personally would like to keep us, from the MT-side of things out of it as much as possible. We defeated the Nazis, dismantled any possible threat to our nations from them and made it clear to the rest of them, that any action taken against us is... unwise.
Let them clean up their own world, we have no business there.

Well... Reavers are a bit different in approach. They don't care about such things as "cultural contamination" and just spread their culture and ideas like that... A bull in a china shop.

Others do care. And others will not like the Reavers on principle.
And who knows, what goes around comes around - maybe the contact with Merry, ol' England creates a new warband, the Gentlemen Warriors, with top hats and heavy machine guns?
(Brainstorming here while drunk, so don't worry. A 15yo Jameson Stout Edition, Irish Whiskey, God, I love the people of the Emerald Isle...)

[Sky Reavers]

Others do care. And others will not like the Reavers on principle.
And who knows, what goes around comes around - maybe the contact with Merry, ol' England creates a new warband, the Gentlemen Warriors, with top hats and heavy machine guns?
(Brainstorming here while drunk, so don't worry. A 15yo Jameson Stout Edition, Irish Whiskey, God, I love the people of the Emerald Isle...)

This is actually a nice idea... Maybe, some people from WW2 world decide to enter the portals and run away with Sky Reaver circus.

[The Selkie]

Others do care. And others will not like the Reavers on principle.
And who knows, what goes around comes around - maybe the contact with Merry, ol' England creates a new warband, the Gentlemen Warriors, with top hats and heavy machine guns?
(Brainstorming here while drunk, so don't worry. A 15yo Jameson Stout Edition, Irish Whiskey, God, I love the people of the Emerald Isle...)

This is actually a nice idea... Maybe, some people from WW2 world decide to enter the portals and run away with Sky Reaver circus.

No, I actually meant some Reavers being invited for a cuppa by George VI (poor bastard) and going "Well, that's pretty nice actually, we should try tea parties every now and again!" and thus, Reavers begin having English-style tea parties... with hemp tea. ; )

[Sky Reavers]

It seems, that powers from beyond the portal will interact very soon. I bet, reaction to Sky Reaver antics gonna be priceless...

[The Selkie]

It seems, that powers from beyond the portal will interact very soon. I bet, reaction to Sky Reaver antics gonna be priceless...

"Oh, no, not you lot... again..." ; )

[Polish Prussian Commonwealth]

for the issue of battleships and since abh having shilled battleships both here and in my discord DMs makes my blood boil:

don't reinvent the wheel. just toss a bunch of (ideally armor-piercing) guided bombs from high altitude and laugh as the overbred tin can gets sent to the bottom of the sea. bombs from the air is how you kill battleships as a carrier. if you're a comblock nation maybe do something fancy with the big missiles you probably have instead? idk but iirc soviet bomber-carried ashms get fucking nasty.

anyway.

i'm not keeping up with the pacific rn so idk what's going on or why a helicopter is landing on the yamato - but i'm feeling particularly vindictive right now so if there's any remaining major japanese surface combatants i'm calling dibs on at least one of them. ideally yamato or musashi.

fat lot of good that armored deck will do against an f-111 loaded down with GBUs.