WorldVision Song Contest 49 | OOC & DISCUSSION

[Britonisea]

Postcards should be effective and simple. I have no idea where you are going if it takes you twenty minutes to do a postcard - I am sorry, but that is just too long.

I do think that some hosts want to live up to expectations that they're expected that have, but can't deliver. And it's not a bad thing, at all. I mean...look at Copenhagen 2014 ESC then look at 2015. The contest was much simpler...but looking at 2016, I do appreciate the simplicity of it.

Whenever I do host next, I am that person to complete everything I set out to do, even if it takes me a long time. Postcards in wv41 did take quite a long time (now that I think about it) and so, you would be happy to hear that it would be simpler hosting (Oocly in the IC Thread, not the bid) though perfection is the key to my bid in the upcoming editions. I'm looking forward to it.

Also, I don't tend to vote for joke bids because I look at, say N&P did for his bid and I look at the comparisons. I don't think it's fair.

[Cheongji]

Postcards should be effective and simple. I have no idea where you are going if it takes you twenty minutes to do a postcard - I am sorry, but that is just too long.

I do think that some hosts want to live up to expectations that they're expected that have, but can't deliver. And it's not a bad thing, at all. I mean...look at Copenhagen 2014 ESC then look at 2015. The contest was much simpler...but looking at 2016, I do appreciate the simplicity of it.

Whenever I do host next, I am that person to complete everything I set out to do, even if it takes me a long time. Postcards in wv41 did take quite a long time (now that I think about it) and so, you would be happy to hear that it would be simpler hosting (Oocly in the IC Thread, not the bid) though perfection is the key to my bid in the upcoming editions. I'm looking forward to it.

Also, I don't tend to vote for joke bids because I look at, say N&P did for his bid and I look at the comparisons. I don't think it's fair.

if I have the opportunity to make a host bid, I'd make it serious and comprehensive, although I have not decided whether to include postcards or not.

[Britonisea]

Postcards should be effective and simple. I have no idea where you are going if it takes you twenty minutes to do a postcard - I am sorry, but that is just too long.

I do think that some hosts want to live up to expectations that they're expected that have, but can't deliver. And it's not a bad thing, at all. I mean...look at Copenhagen 2014 ESC then look at 2015. The contest was much simpler...but looking at 2016, I do appreciate the simplicity of it.

Whenever I do host next, I am that person to complete everything I set out to do, even if it takes me a long time. Postcards in wv41 did take quite a long time (now that I think about it) and so, you would be happy to hear that it would be simpler hosting (Oocly in the IC Thread, not the bid) though perfection is the key to my bid in the upcoming editions. I'm looking forward to it.

Also, I don't tend to vote for joke bids because I look at, say N&P did for his bid and I look at the comparisons. I don't think it's fair.

if I have the opportunity to make a host bid, I'd make it serious and comprehensive, although I have not decided whether to include postcards or not.

I would suggest looking at the timetable for WV until December to see whenever WV Hosting falls on a break or time off work/school to do the postcards (if you really want to do it). Or, you could try to do it during - but that's a risk. It's up to you and how much time you would have available...

[Cheongji]

if I have the opportunity to make a host bid, I'd make it serious and comprehensive, although I have not decided whether to include postcards or not.

I would suggest looking at the timetable for WV until December to see whenever WV Hosting falls on a break or time off work/school to do the postcards (if you really want to do it). Or, you could try to do it during - but that's a risk. It's up to you and how much time you would have available...

That's a sound plan. However, the problem is more due to my deficient graphic skills. Do you guys all use MS Paint for making images and postcards for host bids?

[Britonisea]

I would suggest looking at the timetable for WV until December to see whenever WV Hosting falls on a break or time off work/school to do the postcards (if you really want to do it). Or, you could try to do it during - but that's a risk. It's up to you and how much time you would have available...

That's a sound plan. However, the problem is more due to my deficient graphic skills. Do you guys all use MS Paint for making images and postcards for host bids?

If I had the computer to use Photoshop and Fireworks, I would. I'm quite talented at that, but I don't. So, PowerPoint is your best friend.

[Polkopia]

speaking of hosting...

The Polkiopski Nationaliski Brodkastur, or PNB, has just announced that they plan to host the 49th edition of the Worldvision Song Contest. No other details have been revealed as of yet, but sources say that the host city may either be in Peeto, or Valinkova, Polkopia two largest cities. Peeto has hosted the contest before, whereas Valinkova has yet to host the contest.

"After Branka Larisa brought home the victory in Talvezout, members of the PNB came together to discuss the possibility of [Polkopia] to host the contest." Executive producer Viktor Khassanov said in a statement hours ago. "The PNB had a bit of controversy recently, and we've had to pull out of a few editions, but now we're back and we plan on bringing international singers and musicians back into Polkopia!"

Journalists in Polkopia are eager to hear about details regarding the Polkopian bid for the 49th Worldvision Song Contest, and details will undoubtedly follow shortly.

[Cheongji]

That's a sound plan. However, the problem is more due to my deficient graphic skills. Do you guys all use MS Paint for making images and postcards for host bids?

If I had the computer to use Photoshop and Fireworks, I would. I'm quite talented at that, but I don't. So, PowerPoint is your best friend.

That's nice. Powerpoint is a good alternative.

Besides all that, I've sent a telegram to WV nation about being eliglble for making a host bid, but, so far, it has not replied.

[Mister X]

PowerPoint is good for making logos that look what I call "professional", in that they're not flashy and are quite simple and basic - but then again, one can play that to one's advantage, and can always be resized later. All my host bids were done in PowerPoint, including the one time I hosted it in WV34. Good times.

Besides all that, I've sent a telegram to WV nation about being eliglble for making a host bid, but, so far, it has not replied.

You have to have participated with this particular nation before hosting. Brit tried to bid once with "The Grand British Kingdom" on its (but not his) debut, so was not allowed.

[Cheongji]

You have to have participated with this particular nation before hosting. Brit tried to bid once with "The Grand British Kingdom" on its (but not his) debut, so was not allowed.

Okay, thanks for the clarification.

[Kalosia]

I think rather than having to strike a deal with a host, Luepola could just make the postcards outside any hosting capabilities; ICly these could be considered additional content submitted voluntarily by a broadcaster, or fanart.
Taking a RL example, all those ESC preview parties including EiC are reported on by Eurovision.tv but aren't actually organized by the EBU themselves. The WV host could acknowledge Luepola's work by linking it in the IC thread, perhaps in addition to their own postcards (actually I recall when I hosted WHF I made both a postcard and a title card for each participant).

Also when it comes to designing things... if you don't have Photoshop you could always try alternatives to it or use simpler photo-editing software (like a phone app), unless you're a perfectionist with a finalized word-by-word blueprint, you'll likely find it sufficient.
Powerpoint works well too... I use Keynote instead (the features are a bit more limited than Powerpoint but I find it less of a hassle to work with). That was actually the program I used to make my animated voting graphics for WHF19 (processing it into gifs was done with Photoshop though).
Honestly though when it comes to design the program you use doesn't matter as much as what you make of it. Expect improvisation and be creative!

Pretty sure Kalosia and E&E joint hosted at one point.

Correct. Due to circumstances (intentionally keeping this vague), I don't think WV43 was a very effectively-run contest, and I consider it not as good as my other 2 hostings (I don't blame the co-hosting, there were several factors to this).
About broken promises... this is all for good fun innit I will not understand why people would want to ban postcards when some bidders don't even submit a stage design. Like what's the point of bidding when you omit the most important element of it right?

When it comes to voting for a bid, the overall graphics are certainly a factor in my consideration but the single most important thing to me is the stage design, because I have to design my performance around it. When it comes to making a bid, I try to win everyone's hearts with my graphics and the amount of time I put into them... and my stage, which I usually design myself using SketchUp.

[Lupolska]

PowerPoint is good for making logos that look what I call "professional", in that they're not flashy and are quite simple and basic - but then again, one can play that to one's advantage, and can always be resized later. All my host bids were done in PowerPoint, including the one time I hosted it in WV34. Good times.

That's actually how I intended to make the postcards: screen recording of a slideshow (since im shit out of luck for movie animating software) that would e resized and converted into a GIF

That said, I'm happy to wait until next contest to do so. If anything, that would be the most fitting time to do it: have 'extra special' postcards or whatever for the extra special (50th) edition

[Mister X]

Coming Soon...

[Mister X]

This may or may not be the final version of the logo. I'm going for the effect on the X as similar to the "WHO" here:

At the moment, though, I'm worried the logo just looks like a big "no entry" sign, because whilst I got what I wanted, overall it doesn't look good, and so I thought I might just throw it out there and see initial reactions...

[Todlichebujoku]

I vote on bids in terms of content and acts planned.

The competitions I tend to like (and no offence to Mister X's style) are the ones where it isn't left on 'automatic' persay, and prefer ones with more interval acts and the like (as long as hosts are willing to commit to them). I do realise there is a saturation point though, and competitions where there are too many 'artificially inserted' acts by the host can also put me off a bid.

I mainly look at where I would most want to perform though. I also sometimes vote for the more 'joke' entries, because I feel like a 'different' venue every once in awhile would be good.

I don't look at postcards too much, because I know most hosts won't complete them.

If I ever do a bid, I want you to know some things, as it seems as though you wouldn't vote for me based on the type of bid I would do.

1. I like to have a basic number of opening and interval acts but make them quality pieces.

2. I like to keep my performances secret. Maybe I'll hint at them, but in the end I want people to be surprised and impressed.

3. I make sure that the postcards I offer will be easily made so that I can actually complete them all. And I make sure I do. Mostly because I personally get at least mildly annoyed when hosts don't follow up on their postcards, though I'm rather jaded by now.

The first two also can apply to pretty much anyone bidding. The third, though, is my personal process and reasoning.

PowerPoint is good for making logos that look what I call "professional", in that they're not flashy and are quite simple and basic - but then again, one can play that to one's advantage, and can always be resized later. All my host bids were done in PowerPoint, including the one time I hosted it in WV34. Good times.

Yeah, I use PowerPoint for all of my graphics as well, maybe with an occasional bit of Pixlr. I've also made all of my voting graphics through PowerPoint, and at one point made someone wonder how I somehow used the Photoshop file they had used in their host bid (because I had replicated it so closely).

Also I'm quite sure you can make flashy logos through PowerPoint, you just need a lot of time and a deep knowledge of how PowerPoint works. But mostly time.

[Lupolska]

uhh

I don't know how I feel about a worldvision bid that forces me to canonically acknowledge the existence of a country thats actually called 'Mister X'...

[Todlichebujoku]

uhh

I don't know how I feel about a worldvision bid that forces me to canonically acknowledge the existence of a country thats actually called 'Mister X'...

It appears to be in a relationship as well. News on the offspring has not been released yet (aside from speculation of a "Junior X"), but inter-national intercourse must be a striking thing.

[Lupolska]

uhh

I don't know how I feel about a worldvision bid that forces me to canonically acknowledge the existence of a country thats actually called 'Mister X'...

It appears to be in a relationship as well. News on the offspring has not been released yet (aside from speculation of a "Junior X"), but inter-national intercourse must be a striking thing.

as someone who tries to maintain a realistic canon i have little room for actual countries literally fucking eachother

[Britonisea]

PowerPoint is good for making logos that look what I call "professional", in that they're not flashy and are quite simple and basic - but then again, one can play that to one's advantage, and can always be resized later. All my host bids were done in PowerPoint, including the one time I hosted it in WV34. Good times.

Besides all that, I've sent a telegram to WV nation about being eliglble for making a host bid, but, so far, it has not replied.

You have to have participated with this particular nation before hosting. Brit tried to bid once with "The Grand British Kingdom" on its (but not his) debut, so was not allowed.

Did I?

I would also allow a joint account though. Say if you did decide to joint host? I think it would be fair to use a joint account to host (though, not to participate or vote). Of course stating that you are not to participate and that this account is solely for hosting and making it flexible between you two.

@Polkopia: Valinkova pls.

[Britonisea]

Coming Soon...

(Image)

I quite like that background colour, not gonna lie. I do look forward to these bids. I'm expecting only good things from y'all.

[Polkopia]

Welcome to Valinkova, Polkopia's largest city in terms of size and population. The city was once a candidate to host the 29th edition of the Worldvision Song Contest, but came second, losing out to Proletariat City in Communist Quinntopia. Nevertheless, the city is more than ready to jump back into the Worldvision spotlight and put forth a formal bid to host the 49th Worldvision Song Contest.

Where is Valinkova?: Well, if you look at a map of Polkopia, you will be able to locate Valinkova on the southern half of the nation. The city is bordered by the Marima Bay to its north, which acts as Polkopia's prime tourist attraction. Sailing into Marima bay, you will have the opportunity to see the islands of Yam Stuki and Nutkin, both of which are the closest two islands to the mainland, and offer a breathtaking view. The area surrounding Valinkova also offers pristine sightseeing opportunities. To the east, visitors will be able to visit the beautiful beaches of Pravdi and Gradzi, both of which provide a relaxing getaway from the hubbub of the bustling urban life. To the west, visitors will be able to visit the Marikov Cliffs which are famous all throughout the multiverse for their pristine beauty.

Why Valinkova?: Why not Valinkova? The city is the largest in Polkopia and has the greatest diversity of any city in Polkopia. Throughout the years, immigrants would cross over from neighboring countries and sail though the Marima Bay before landing in Valinkova. Thus, the city is dotted with people from all different nations. Looking for an authentic Kishraeli restaurant? The closest one is most likely three blocks away! What about a Kalosian designer store? Just around the corner! Lupolskan trinkets? You're standing right in front of a stall selling them! The point is, any outsider visiting Valinkova will fit right at home and will not feel like an outsider. Of course, the city predominantly consists of Polkopian influence, but don't let that stop you from seeing all that there is to see in lovely Valinkova!

How Can I Get To Valinkova? Oh that's easy! Being the largest city in Polkopia, the city of Valinkova actually has two airports. Ulaan Aeroport is the largest and is the easiest to travel to, as it's Valinkova's only international airport, but visitors may also fly in through Vilik Aeroport, which only has hubs in a handful of other countries. Visitors may also feel free to fly into Peeto, the capital of Polkopia, and take a train all the way south, where they'll be treated with fantastic views of the Polkopian countryside. Of course, the last option is to take a ferry in through Marima Bay, where the breathtaking Polkopian coastline will be right in front of you. Really, the city offers so many reliable methods of transportation, visitors will have no problem entering and exiting the city.

The Contest

The theme for the 49th Worldvision Song Contest, if held in Polkopia, is "Become A Star." This is because the Worldvision Song Contest offers so many artists and musicians the chance to let their talent be broadcast all over the multiverse. From Ethane to Normandy and Picardy, audiences everywhere will have the chance to see what talent your nation can bring to the table. It isn't rare to have artists participating in Worldvision to have success outside of the contest. For example, despite not participating, the winning song for the 47th Worldvision Song Contest from Britonisea, Centre Of Attraction, peaked at #2 in the Polkopian charts for an entire week. Her followup single also broke the top 10, peaking at #9 for three days. Mini Surrey-North is now adored by her Polkopian fan base and enjoys sell-out shows whenever she performs in the nation.

Will you be the next star?

The proposed venue for the 49th Worldvision Song Contest is the Toropis' Arena and hosts FC Valinkova in the Polkopian Premier League. The arena seats up to 89,000 persons and it will be renovated in time to suit the requirements of the Worldvision Song Contest. A stage will be constructed, and in doing so, room for an estimated 2,000 more people will become available. The arena sits alongside the Borischev channel on the northern side of the city, and is within walking distance from any of the major hotels and accommodations that are in Valinkova. All major forms of mass transit including the bus, monorail, and subway systems, all make stops at the stadium, so getting to and fro will not be a problem, even during a major event such as Worldvision.

The stage is already being planned, and should Polkopia win the bid, will take very little time to construct. The stage will consist of five different LED screens, each propped up by a quadrilateral foundation, also equipped with an LED screen. Furthermore, the floor of the stage acts as its own LED screen as well so artists will be able to put on a fantastic show using the wall and the floor for animations. The stage also comes equipped with a catwalk that runs from the back of the stage, to the audience. Pyrotechnics, fireworks, water, and smoke effects will also be readily available for use for any participating nation that chooses to use them. Views for the proposed staging can be found below:

The Postcards

The postcards are to follow a simple design. The proposed postcards will feature the nation's flag with an artistic touch. Overlapping the nation's flag will a portrait of the singer, either in a professional portfolio setting, or on stage. At the bottom will be a rectangular box with information regarding the participating nation's name, singer(s), and song title. The color of the box can be chosen by the nation's broadcaster, but if no decision is made, the PNB will make the decision themselves. An example of a Polkopian postcard in this format can be found below:

That's it! That concludes the Polkopian bid for the 49th Worldvision Song Contest. We hope you make the right choice and let your stars shine by voting for Polkopia!

[Amouraland]

AMT confirms that Amouraland will return to Worldvision Song Contest.

Nation Name: Amouraland
Official Broadcaster: AMT
Song Title: Long Live My Life (Hur kan jag fly?)
Artist(s) Name(s): Deliah Ajax

The song will be sung in Swedish and English.

Tune: Laleh - Colors

[Lupolska]

-snip-

extending voting for my national final by a day, meaning it will close in 48 hours

Also, i'll be making another playlist with all songs in the contest in order of their confirmation on this board, to be reordered to fit the running order of the contest once the IC is up. feel free to use it when i get it done

[Ekoz]

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The STE announced today that the eighth finalist for the huge selection format MelodieFestivålen has been changed at the last minute, to due issues of copyright and plagiarism. Bosses had no choice but to remove the song from the competition, and thus has been replaced with a new entry, see Melodie #8.

The STE released the Official Playlist of the eight finalists, in the order in which they will perform, in the Kårnisarena in two weeks time. They also premiered on STE Radio One's breakfast show, 'Morgonsmusik' hosted by Alfaans, a previous WorldVision commentator.

For more information on MelodieFestivålen, or any WorldVision related topic, visit ste.ez/melodiefestivålen.

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MelodieFestivålen | The Finalists

Melodie #1
to the tune of Glassface - Holland (Inukshuk Remix)

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Melodie #2
Cher - Believe (Rookies Remix)

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Melodie #3
Mike Perry - The Ocean feat. Shy Martin

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Melodie #4
to the tune of Jai Waetford - Heart Miles

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Melodie #5
to the tune of Miriam Bryant - Black Car

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Melodie #6
to the tune of Hasse Andersson - Guld Och Grona Skogar

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Melodie #7
to the tune of Zwette feat Molly - Rush

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Melodie #8
to the tune of Rihanna - Sledgehammer

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To vote, telegram Ekoz with your points from 2,4,6,8, 10 and 12, the lowest being your least favourite and the highest being your most favourite. All nations that have previously voted will be contacted to revise their votes whenever possible.

[Estogium]

"I'm Back"


Rumours of Elektroe coming back to WorldVision Song Contest has finally come true, and the fans of Elektroe will probably jump and down wherever they are when they find out she is coming back to sing her song "Ultrasonic Sound" which is a song about, not necessarily a partner, but a friend that you love ever so much or anyone who is very important to you. In the song, it has been describe to have a lot of metaphors and it has a bit of cheekiness of her song back in WorldVision Song Contest 43, where the song placed 4th place ¹ - which was the country's highest place until it was broken last edition by amazing Ellie Morgent who sang the song "Healer."

In WorldVision 43, she sang the song Ready? Get Set, Go!" which went down well with the commentators.

Nation Name: Estogium
Official Broadcaster: (VRW) Vefecosoin Rwhitten
Song Title: Ultrasonic Sound
Artist(s) Name(s): Elektroe
Tune: Time To Fight - Barei

¹: I recounted the points, and it did place higher than Britonisea.

[South Bourbonstan]

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The Theme

The theme this year is "Connecting through music". As the world, even though wars might be going on, has one uniform language: Esperanto! And after that music. Isolated countries can express their political views and unite with other countries. But hey, if you don't like them,don't give them votes.

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The City
Oldburn:City of two speeds. The slow,calm life in the city centre. Where the large squares and people selling their wares dot the scenery. You'll find many of the citizens being welcoming and kind, such is the Bourbonstan way. The old city or sa'ter mias has many markets for your singer to spend hours in, smelling the spices and buying overpriced reasonably priced food. At the centre is the beautiful Plaz Wohna.

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Lets move on to the bigger part of the city, the new city. The city has many class establishments willing to serve your competitors. The city has 4 distinct quarters: The Old Quarter, the bustling Centre, the peaceful Art Quarter with rolling hills and art museums and the quiet suburbs. The centre is where will find the stadium: Sta'de Ma'linwa.

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The Stadium

The stadium is served well by rail, tram and bicycles. The stadium is named after Lowa'n Ma'linwa who was one of the revolutionaries who fought against the oppressive Empire of Bourbonstan. The revolutionary died during the independence war. The stadium is named in her memory. The stadium fits 92,000 people and can cater to many needs. Inside, there are bars and food stall for the visitors to sate thirst and hunger. The stadium, at night, lights up in bright colours and can be changed on command. Backstage will be crew and refreshments.

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The stage
This is the stage. Fit with fully functioning lights and a back screen. The curtains can be raised or lowered for your convenience. Screens for animations or climbing can be sent out. The full WorldVision experience right here. The staff onstage will be accommodating and if your competitors need an item, we'll see what we can rustle up.

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Postcards
This year the postcards will look like this:

The blank space is for a picture of the artist.

This is the South Bourbonstan Bid. Vote if you want. I won't force you.