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Rise of Empires: 1750-2000 (OOC Signups and discussion)

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Rise of Empires: 1750-2000 (OOC Signups and discussion)

Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:09 pm

The year is 1750. You have come to power in your country and must make your mark on history. Your goal: Dominance. Your tools: War, Diplomacy, Subterfuge. Conquer territory, dominate trade routes, craft alliances, control resources, and watch your empire rise.

Before this RP begins, a few rules:
Don’t be a jerk. Don’t godmod, don’t metagame, don’t one liner post in the IC thread. This is supposed to be fun. Second, this a realistic situation. No machine guns until 1885. No Gatling guns until 1862. No submarines until 1770. Make sure that your technology is period accurate. If you have bolt action rifles in 1791, you are wrong. If you have M-16s in the 19th Century, you are wrong.
Territory claims will be up to the Co-OPs. A good rule of thumb is to keep them moderately sized. If it is an entire continent, then it won’t work. The exception to that rule is Australia, since it has a low population.
Be realistic in your population claims. South Korea will not get a billion people and Malta won’t get a population like the United States. Use the Real Life population of your claim. Google it, Bing it, find a book about it. Just make it as close to the RL population as possible. Your military population should not exceed 10% of your total population. How you divide that military is up to you, but it should not be more than 10%. Once you are accepted, you can increase the size of your forces through Conscription, though that is not recommended due to economics.
Military personnel are subject to morale. If they suffer heavy casualties in a charge, they will be suffering from low morale. On the other hand, if they are winning they will have high morale.
When fighting wars or making treaties with other players, send them a NS telegram, letting them know and asking for information. If it is a war, tell them where your invading army is and ask if there are defending forces in that area. That is where the war will start. Do not make one liner posts and remember that conquest takes time. You can’t say “Britain marches 1,000,000 men into Russia, seizing it.” That is not only a godmod, that is also completely impossible. It is Russia and Britain can’t just march into Russia. Wars in this RP will require extensive thought. With treaties and alliances, send a telegram informing the other player of your intentions. Then mention them in the treaty post, stating your offers/demands and requesting their answer. NO SECRET TREATIES!
Resources are important. The following resources are the most important immediately: Wood, Cotton, Tobacco, Sugar, Coffee, and Tea. Later it will be Oil, Uranium, Steel, Lithium, and other strategic elements like Titanium and Tungsten. When beginning trade, telegram the targeted nation or nations and tell them of your intent. Then post to the thread what you offer and what you demand.
I almost forgot. You can also use telegrams to play two rivals against each other. If they go to war, they will likely be severely weakened and you can expand into their territory. This is probably the hardest thing to do, as it will require a significant amount of thought.

Time is actually a very simple thing here: 1 Real Life Month is equal to 1 Year in the Role Play. If there is any confusion as to what the RP date is on any particular day, Brabantum or I will be more than willing to help.

To sign up, simply follow this format:
RP Nation:
Territory:
Population:
Military:
Government Type:
Ideology:
Head of State:
Head of Government:
Other information:

Upon filling it out and posting it, one of the Co-OPs will review it and either accept you or tell you what needs fixing. They will be very detailed in how to fix it as we don’t want to turn anyone away.
The Co-OPs will be as follows: The Manticoran Empire and Brabantum
The Cartographer is Serbatijan Empire
A map will be added shortly.
IC thread is here: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=359888
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Against: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism, Theocracy, Corporatocracy.


By the Blood of our Fathers, By the Blood of our Sons, we fight, we die, we sacrifice for the Good of the Empire.

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The Confederate States of America

Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:48 pm

RP Nation: The Confederate States of America
Territory: Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, California, and Illinois, USA and Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahiula, Baja California Sur, and Baja California, Mexico.
Population: 241,806,647
Military:
Army: 14,745,600 in 10 army groups, 4 Active, 6 Reserve
Navy: 410,563. 1,047 ships.
Marines: 368,640
Government Type: Constitutional Federal Republic
Ideology: Republicanism, Democracy
Head of State: George Washington
Head of Government: George Washington, Vice President Thomas Jefferson, Speaker of the House Patrick Henry
Other information: The Confederate States of America is a major North American power formed in 1750. Slavery is outlawed, military units are integrated, and the economy is primarily agrarian, though industry is on the rise, particularly out West in New Mexico, Arizona, and California, as well as Sonora, Chihuahua, Baja, and Coahiula.
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Against: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism, Theocracy, Corporatocracy.


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Postby Gyrenaica » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:51 pm

How the hell did the confederacy come to power before the USA exists? How did they get land from Spain, France, Britain, etc?

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:55 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:How the hell did the confederacy come to power before the USA exists? How did they get land from Spain, France, Britain, etc?

Imagination.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:59 pm

Reserve Canada and what's left of the USA as well as Greenland. And Siberia if I may. As the Canadian empire.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:06 pm

Gyrenaica wrote:Reserve Canada and what's left of the USA as well as Greenland. And Siberia if I may. As the Canadian empire.

I can get you Canada and Greenland and the remnants of the USA.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:18 pm

The following reservations were made on the Union of Confederate Regions RMB: Serbatijan Empire requested Russia and Siberia. Brabantum requested Scandinavia, Denmark, and Iceland.
Thank you.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:26 pm

Nation: Confederation of Canada
Territory: Canada, remnants of USA, Greenland
Population: 221,839,000
Military: 294,000 active 317,000 reserves
Government Type: Direct Democracy, Confederation
Ideology: Canadian Nationalism, imperialism
Head of State: Prime. Minister Eli Macdonald
Head of Government: ^
Other info: a fellow power in North America alongside the confederates, Canada was formed in 1750 in modern day Canada and Alaska. When the confederates consumed the south, Canada was quick to take the rest of the land and Greenland. It's industry is strong, with strong ties to Britain and France. The nation has taken a neutral stance however, yet still maintains a well regulated and well armed military.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:35 am

Gyrenaica wrote:Nation: Confederation of Canada
Territory: Canada, remnants of USA, Greenland
Population: 221,839,000
Military: 294,000 active 317,000 reserves
Government Type: Direct Democracy, Confederation
Ideology: Canadian Nationalism, imperialism
Head of State: Prime. Minister Eli Macdonald
Head of Government: ^
Other info: a fellow power in North America alongside the confederates, Canada was formed in 1750 in modern day Canada and Alaska. When the confederates consumed the south, Canada was quick to take the rest of the land and Greenland. It's industry is strong, with strong ties to Britain and France. The nation has taken a neutral stance however, yet still maintains a well regulated and well armed military.

Solid. You're in.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:56 am

Just remember, I'm a neutral player. You invade and you're condemned by all

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:57 am

Gyrenaica wrote:Just remember, I'm a neutral player. You invade and you're condemned by all

My interests are south. You're cool with me. Unless you elect Lincoln in 1860. Then you're toast.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:12 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Gyrenaica wrote:Just remember, I'm a neutral player. You invade and you're condemned by all

My interests are south. You're cool with me. Unless you elect Lincoln in 1860. Then you're toast.

Aren't you anti slavery?

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:34 am

Gyrenaica wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:My interests are south. You're cool with me. Unless you elect Lincoln in 1860. Then you're toast.

Aren't you anti slavery?

Yep. However, in keeping with history, Lincoln would likely seek to break Confederate economic power. Sanctions, blockades, so on and so forth. Keep Lincoln out of office.
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Postby Serbatijan Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:39 am

Reserve Russia.
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Pro-Serbia,Yugoslavia,Russia,USSR,Euroasian Union,Donstek,Belarus,Scotish Indepedence,Armenia,North Korea,Ireland and other...

Anti-NATO,EU,Germany,France,UK,USA,Ukraine,Aziberjan,Turkey,Albania,Kosovo Indepedence and other...


Kosovo is Serbia!

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Postby Gyrenaica » Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:54 am

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Gyrenaica wrote:Aren't you anti slavery?

Yep. However, in keeping with history, Lincoln would likely seek to break Confederate economic power. Sanctions, blockades, so on and so forth. Keep Lincoln out of office.

He only did so because of their slavery... besides, he would just be a normal person in this extreme alternate history.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:45 am

Gyrenaica wrote:
The Manticoran Empire wrote:Yep. However, in keeping with history, Lincoln would likely seek to break Confederate economic power. Sanctions, blockades, so on and so forth. Keep Lincoln out of office.

He only did so because of their slavery... besides, he would just be a normal person in this extreme alternate history.

Quite likely.
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Postby Serbatijan Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:51 am

RP Nation: Russian Empire
Territory: Image
Population: 181,537,800
Military: 70.000 Soldiers, 6.000 Sailors
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Ideology: Imperialist...
Head of State: Peter the I
Head of Government: None until 1905 (Absolute Monarchy)
Other information: Russia is one of the largest countries in the world. It covers up mostly Siberia and eastern Europe. Even having big land, not that much of population but it's something at least something. Russia is sometimes called Euroasian country. It has very bad realations with Swedes and Turks, while in terms of best friends they consider Austria their best friend. Russia is orthodoxic country and as well main stronghold of Orthodoxy and Slavicism. Capital of Russia is Moscow which is as well one of biggest cities in Europe and it is growing very fast.
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Pro-Serbia,Yugoslavia,Russia,USSR,Euroasian Union,Donstek,Belarus,Scotish Indepedence,Armenia,North Korea,Ireland and other...

Anti-NATO,EU,Germany,France,UK,USA,Ukraine,Aziberjan,Turkey,Albania,Kosovo Indepedence and other...


Kosovo is Serbia!

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Postby Serbatijan Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:54 am

Also guys, you can start senting me claims for the map.
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Kosovo is Serbia!

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:34 am

Excellent.
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Postby Gyrenaica » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:33 am

I have Canada, the rest of the USA states not claimed by CSA, and Greenland.

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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:41 am

My claims are located in the territory section of my application.
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Postby Brabantum » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:49 pm

RP Nation: The Kingdom of Sweden
Territory: Modern day: Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland
Population: 2 882 000 (Denmark not yet found)
Military: (To be calculated)
Government Type: Constitutional monarchy
Ideology: Swedish Nationalism
Head of State: King Karel Storberg
Head of Government: Prime minister Johan Kerg
Other information: The Swedish kingdom, having recently joined the enlightened nations has started to show interest in military modernization. This means that they will be with the ones trying to keep their army as modern as possible, until another idea comes by. With the control over much of the north sea's coast, trade is a valuable part of their economy. The relatively peaceful life and good living standards allowed for the nation to have a relatively big population though a recently growing Russia is threatening that.

The last information will be given pretty soon.
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Postby The Manticoran Empire » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:57 pm

Brabantum wrote:
RP Nation: The Kingdom of Sweden
Territory: Modern day: Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland
Population: (To be calculated)
Military: (To be calculated)
Government Type: Constitutional monarchy (If I remember correctly)
Ideology: (To be researched)
Head of State: (To be research)
Head of Government: (To be researched)
Other information: The Swedish kingdom, having recently joined the enlightened nations has started to show interest in military modernization. This means that they will be with the ones trying to keep their army as modern as possible, until another idea comes by. With the control over much of the north sea's coast, trade is a valuable part of their economy.


I know that this is pretty blank, but I will edit this once I find the information I need.

You know that your government leaders can be completely made up? Just like your ideology and government?
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Against: Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Liberalism, Theocracy, Corporatocracy.


By the Blood of our Fathers, By the Blood of our Sons, we fight, we die, we sacrifice for the Good of the Empire.

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Postby Brabantum » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:58 pm

The Manticoran Empire wrote:
Brabantum wrote:
RP Nation: The Kingdom of Sweden
Territory: Modern day: Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland
Population: (To be calculated)
Military: (To be calculated)
Government Type: Constitutional monarchy (If I remember correctly)
Ideology: (To be researched)
Head of State: (To be research)
Head of Government: (To be researched)
Other information: The Swedish kingdom, having recently joined the enlightened nations has started to show interest in military modernization. This means that they will be with the ones trying to keep their army as modern as possible, until another idea comes by. With the control over much of the north sea's coast, trade is a valuable part of their economy.


I know that this is pretty blank, but I will edit this once I find the information I need.

You know that your government leaders can be completely made up? Just like your ideology and government?

Oh...

Why didn't you tell me?
;_;
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Postby Argentarino » Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:03 pm

Hey, I don't have the time to make my application right now, but can I please reserve the following: Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria, Macedonia, and Albania? I'm planning on having a Byzantine revival.
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