International Freedom Coalition (OOC, APPS TEMP CLOSED)

[Shazbotdom]

Meh

I just use ships from Pharthan. He's got some good designs. My fav, right now, has to be the the Tyrfing SSVN.

[New Aeyariss]

Meh

I just use ships from Pharthan. He's got some good designs. My fav, right now, has to be the the Tyrfing SSVN.

Design that to be frank has several flaws, with no offence to Parthan.

[New Aeyariss]

Chatzy link

interested people TG for password.

[Inyourfaceistan]

Meh

I just use ships from Pharthan. He's got some good designs. My fav, right now, has to be the the Tyrfing SSVN.

Design that to be frank has several flaws, with no offence to Parthan.

Well Parthan admits his designs are PMT/NS-MT.

They are still good designs though, from an aesthetic and creativity point of view.

[New Carloso]

Meh

I just use ships from Pharthan. He's got some good designs. My fav, right now, has to be the the Tyrfing SSVN.

Design that to be frank has several flaws, with no offence to Parthan.

Yeah.

Wouldn't the shape of the bow mean the submarine is faster surfaced then it is submerged?

[New Carloso]

Chatzy link

interested people TG for password.

I would TG you but... you know.

[New Aeyariss]

Chatzy link

interested people TG for password.

I would TG you but... you know.

Pardon me, that will be taken down soon.

[New Carloso]

I would TG you but... you know.

Pardon me, that will be taken down soon.

Thank you.

[The Predator Federation]

I wish I had reliable allies.

[Organized States]

(Image) International Freedom Coalition Admissions Department, 500 Zavra Avenue, International Freedom Coalition Headquarters, Musrum, Bratislav IFC Admissions Application National Information Formal Nation Name: The Constitutional Monarchy of Meriad Shortened Nation Name: Meriad Demonym: Meriadni Capital city: Járnfjördur National Population (RP): 2,364,422 Form of Government: Constitutional Monarchy Is your Government by the people? (exercised either directly or through elected representatives): Yes. How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Head of State: King Sketli James Edhrophel II Head of Government: Prime Minister Jans Nordvich Economic System: Free-market capitalism Currency: Credit Exchange Rate to NSD: 9.862 Major Exports: ?? Major Imports: ?? Language: English Very Brief History of your nation: WIP at present. Map: (Optional) Here IIwiki page link (If you have one): N/A Political and Civil Rights and Freedoms Does your nation have Freedom of thought: Yes. Freedom of belief (religion): Yes. Freedom of expression: Yes. Freedom of the media: Yes. Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes. Freedom of association: Yes. Freedom of movement: Yes. Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes. Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes. Freedom from slavery: Yes. Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes. Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes. Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes. Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes. Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): Yes. Foreign Relations and Military Statistics What other military alliances are you a part of? (UL, SCP, SACTO, etc.): None. What other non-military organizations are you a part of? (ISA, UPA, etc.) None. Foreign Policy: Exactly what do you mean by this? Meriad is relatively neutral internationally, if that works for what I think you are asking. Number of active military personnel (RP): Unknown at present, although it is certainly under 900,000. Number of reserve military personnel (RP): Between 1/8 to 1/3 of the above. Nuclear Arsenal (if any): None. Name of Military: His Majesty's Armed Forces of Meriad Branches of Military: Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force. RP example (required - can be anything from a short paragraph on this form to a link to an RP example on another thread): viewtopic.php?p=25640824#p25640824 Delegate to the IFC Council Information Name: Mr. Ivan Stranddursun Age: 52 Gender: Male Biography (optional, but highly encouraged): Mr. Strandurson is the former Meriadni ambassador to Mynarion and Professor Emeritus of International Relations at the Sköntafell Military Institute Education (optional): Mr. Strandurson received his diploma in International Relations and Economics from Southern University in Húsavik, Meriad, and received his doctorate from the Sköntafell Military Institute. Reason for your nation desiring to join the IFC: To further peace and prosperity throughout the world, and to join in a military alliance with like-minded nations from across the globe. Do you hereby agree to abide by the terms and conditions set forth by the IFC's Charter?: We do. Signature: ______Mr. Jans Nordvich, Prime Minister of Meriad_______ Date:_____8/13/15_____ **IFCAPP**

Accepted.

[United States of Devonta]

I wish I had reliable allies.

That hurts!

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Yes, I have failed to provide statistics and sources. That is because the rich world IRL doesn't exclusively use worker-co-operatives and I don't need to prove that. Since the entire rich world, of over a billion people, doesn't exclusively use worker-co-operatives, and since the rich world is democratic, then obviously the majority - including over half a billion people - agree that it's not the best idea.

^Just in case any RP participants would like a really good argument for Ardoki being poorer than what Ardoki thinks.

Anyway, nice OP!

No offence, but you have failed to actually make a proper argument. You are merely stating your opinions without backing them up with facts or statistics (statistics I provided in fact prove the exact opposite of what you have been claiming).

I don't need proof: I'm not challenging the status quo! All I needed to do was prove your arguments are illogical, which I have done - to my own satisfaction, anyway.

http://iiwiki.com/images/4/4e/Unconquered-class.png

There, sexy new design and glorious shading.

Very nice!

I wish I had reliable allies.

If I might offer some humble advice in case you want it, try to find nations you are very closely ideologically aligned with - or very closely pragmatically aligned with; nations which will agree with every issue. But they can be rather difficult to find - in literally hundreds of nations I have interacted with, I can think of only two that are really close to Ausitoria.

However you don't really need reliable allies if you have so many diverse allies that it can be relied upon that at least a few of those allies can be relied upon for any argument. Having lots of allies who you regularly disagree with is really quite helpful. It certainly makes RPs more interesting.

[Ardoki]

No offence, but you have failed to actually make a proper argument. You are merely stating your opinions without backing them up with facts or statistics (statistics I provided in fact prove the exact opposite of what you have been claiming).

I don't need proof: I'm not challenging the status quo! All I needed to do was prove your arguments are illogical, which I have done - to my own satisfaction, anyway.

Well I provided statistics to back up my argument - Something you didn't do.

Anyway, stop drawing on this argument and polluting this thread.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I don't need proof: I'm not challenging the status quo! All I needed to do was prove your arguments are illogical, which I have done - to my own satisfaction, anyway.

Well I provided statistics to back up my argument - Something you didn't do.

Your statistics don't actually back up your argument.

Anyway, stop drawing on this argument and polluting this thread.

So having a discussion about the background for an RP is now 'polluting' this thread?

[Ardoki]

Well I provided statistics to back up my argument - Something you didn't do.

Your statistics don't actually back up your argument.

Anyway, stop drawing on this argument and polluting this thread.

So having a discussion about the background for an RP is now 'polluting' this thread?

They did back up what I was arguing. While you didn't even have something that resembles an argument.

Of course it is polluting this thread. This is not the thread for the discussion of the RP.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

Your statistics don't actually back up your argument.


So having a discussion about the background for an RP is now 'polluting' this thread?

They did back up what I was arguing. While you didn't even have something that resembles an argument.

You're challenging economic orthodoxy. When you challenge something as simple as 1+1=2, it's up to you to prove 1+1=/=2, which you have not done. It is not up to me to prove 1+1=2.

Of course it is polluting this thread. This is not the thread for the discussion of the RP.

Actually this is the thread for discussion of IFC RP related activity. It's rather obvious from the title/OP.

So, you think this entire thread is 'pollution'?

[Ardoki]

I thought it would have been better to discuss things related to this specific RP, in the discussion/planning thread created for it, rather than in this thread.

However seeing that you have other opinions - I'll just leave it at this:

Good day to you sir.
*Tips fedora*
Pip pip cheerio.

[Libraria and Ausitoria]

I thought it would have been better to discuss things related to this specific RP, in the discussion/planning thread created for it, rather than in this thread.

It has general implications and applications to IFC RPing beyond your specific RP, and as such I judged it appropriate for continued discussion here. That we have different judgments on more than one issue is hardly a surprise.

Moving on to more important subjects, is it just me, or has the Council turned defunct?

[Ardoki]

I thought it would have been better to discuss things related to this specific RP, in the discussion/planning thread created for it, rather than in this thread.

It has general implications and applications to IFC RPing beyond your specific RP, and as such I judged it appropriate for continued discussion here. That we have different judgments on more than one issue is hardly a surprise.

Moving on to more important subjects, is it just me, or has the Council turned defunct?

What implications does it have beyond the RP, exactly?

[The Predator Federation]

I wish I had reliable allies.

That hurts!

I don't know you.

[Aigeantir]

That hurts!

I don't know you.

Is this about the request form? Sorry, I forgot about that, but I will follow up on it and determine whether it's something I want to wade into... (at the discretion of my conscience). From what you've said so far, I'm at an 80% in support, because this is a aid form filled out by a member, but I've also responded to requests before, where the government in need has taken some drastic measures before contacting us, so that's why I always check first... sorry I haven't yet.

Just for the sake of a reminder to everyone else that there IS a request form on the board...

Formal Country Name: Predator Federation
IFC Membership Status (member, observer, or non-member): Member
What is the emergency for which you are requesting IFC Blue Cross support? (provide link): viewtopic.php?f=5&t=349218
What is the current state of your nation? (Civil War, External War, Peace): Deployment, Edge of war.
How many individuals have been affected by this event? (Include displaced refugees): 1,000,000+ Unknown at this time.
What is the current state of your infrastructure, and do you have any way of distributing supplies and keeping the peace?:
What is the nature of the assistance that you require and will RRF presence be necessary?: Full military assistance

And after a quick review... *sighs* not again! We would have to approach this VERY differently than from the direction of the rebels, since it kind of started with the rebels nuking the city... so yeah, not sure how you wanted to approach that, but I don't feel completely comfortable throwing in my lots with the rebels, with such an "extreme" method of getting their way (That's irony! Read the OP if you don't get what I mean).

[Meriad]

Yay!

Hello, everyone! New member here!

[United States of Devonta]

Yay!

Hello, everyone! New member here!

Get yo ass in the war!

[Novo Wagondia]

Yay!

Hello, everyone! New member here!

Get yo ass in the war!

Step on up, everybody! Grab your rifle, grab your helmet. One size fits all, keep it moving. Onto the boats, soldiers, let's hustle. Bullets will be provided en route; get a move on. No time for conversation; there's freedom to be defended

[United States of Devonta]

Get yo ass in the war!

Step on up, everybody! Grab your rifle, grab your helmet. One size fits all, keep it moving. Onto the boats, soldiers, let's hustle. Bullets will be provided en route; get a move on. No time for conversation; there's freedom to be defended

Finally the IFC getting some combat! It's been months!