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New Chilokver
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Postby New Chilokver » Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:46 pm

So far as I can see, Crippling IFC Issue No 429 is a result of Inyursta blocking Ausitorian shipping through their claimed waters. This isn't some jackshit about people RPing differently or respecting what they've already drawn up on a map, it's a genuine territorial dispute and something to be ICly debated instead of endlessly spammed here. :roll:

In real life, the universally recognized UN standard for territorial waters stands at twelve nautical miles, though there are certain nations such as Somalia which bring that up to 200 nautical miles. However, there is and will never be a true UN organization of NS due to the sheer amount of nations on II (which lets me get away with all sorts of WMD warfare and enhanced interrogation :twisted:). Equally, we can't RP if we don't have common rules and gentlemen's agreements between us- for the sake of this post, I'd estimate the most commonly agreed upon upper limit for naval borders as a nation's underwater continental shelves. If there was a scale on IYF's map, I don't remember it and underwater geological features certainly weren't, ahem, featured. In the end, it depends more on how many nations recognize those territorial claims that makes them substantial.

There are 3 main goals in the IFC- global security and stability, the enforcement of basic civil rights and liberties and finally, the growing development and prosperity of other nations through international trade. I doubt IYF's actually broken any of the resolutions, but what he's doing is certainly in flagrant violation of their spirit. It would certainly be interesting to see what would happen if the Ausitorians sent an armed naval convoy through anyway.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:50 pm

New Chilokver wrote:It would certainly be interesting to see what would happen if the Ausitorians sent an armed naval convoy through anyway.


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Postby Krjder » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:11 pm

I actually don't know why I bothered... making Gleursmo and Operation Meltdown. They've been completely ignored and I pit time aside when I should have been studying. It just pisses me off that all that ever happens here now is arguments rather than anything productive.
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Postby Valaran » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:13 pm

Krjder wrote:I actually don't know why I bothered... making Gleursmo and Operation Meltdown. They've been completely ignored and I pit time aside when I should have been studying. It just pisses me off that all that ever happens here now is arguments rather than anything productive.



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Postby Flardania » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:15 pm

Krjder wrote:I actually don't know why I bothered... making Gleursmo and Operation Meltdown. They've been completely ignored and I pit time aside when I should have been studying. It just pisses me off that all that ever happens here now is arguments rather than anything productive.

Well to be fair there could be tons of alternate reasons in addition.
1) Lack of Thread
2) Lack of Organization either by PM or Defense Minister
3) Not seen
4) bad timing

It literally can be all the above and more to none of the above.
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Postby Krjder » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:45 pm

Sorry, that was a really and completely unacceptable outburst, I'm really sorry, I shouldn't have said those things, that was hurtful to us as a whole. Please accept my apologies. I'm sorry, I've had a bad few days.. I'm so sorry, it's not like me to post something so rude.
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Postby New Chilokver » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:54 pm

wtf
go and take your self promised break from ns deian

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Postby Aravea » Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:59 pm

Deian please stay out of this and go on your promised break. Anyways Krdjer it is perfectly understandable as to why you would have such an outburst, especially given the recent arguments. Truth be told I am at a similar point myself. So here is what I propose we cease escalating the conflict be it through ooc insults or ic actions etc and instead focus on Operation Meltdown. Or do we need to waste yet another three weeks on this frankly pathetic topic?
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Postby Krjder » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:00 pm

New Chilokver wrote:wtf
go and take your self promised break from ns deian


Yeah Deian... that was a bit... excessive
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Postby Krjder » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:01 pm

Aravea wrote:Deian please stay out of this and go on your promised break. Anyways Krdjer it is perfectly understandable as to why you would have such an outburst, especially given the recent arguments. Truth be told I am at a similar point myself. So here is what I propose we cease escalating the conflict be it through ooc insults or ic actions etc and instead focus on Operation Meltdown. Or do we need to waste yet another three weeks on this frankly pathetic topic?


Thank you for understanding, though I prefer to hold myself to higher emotional standards.. :(
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Postby Krjder » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:05 pm

Deian salazar wrote:
New Chilokver wrote:wtf
go and take your self promised break from ns deian

Also, did you even read what I wrote before saying that?
I'm not raging or anything in that post-I'm explaining the five main alliance systems, and detailing why they work or don't work, and highlighting the facts why I think the IFC isn't working.

Just read your sig...

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Postby Flardania » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:07 pm

Krjder wrote:
Aravea wrote:Deian please stay out of this and go on your promised break. Anyways Krdjer it is perfectly understandable as to why you would have such an outburst, especially given the recent arguments. Truth be told I am at a similar point myself. So here is what I propose we cease escalating the conflict be it through ooc insults or ic actions etc and instead focus on Operation Meltdown. Or do we need to waste yet another three weeks on this frankly pathetic topic?


Thank you for understanding, though I prefer to hold myself to higher emotional standards.. :(

I think the point is you can hold yourself to a higher standard but don't beat yourself up over it :)
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Postby Great Feng » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:08 pm

Krjder wrote:
Deian salazar wrote:Also, did you even read what I wrote before saying that?
I'm not raging or anything in that post-I'm explaining the five main alliance systems, and detailing why they work or don't work, and highlighting the facts why I think the IFC isn't working.

Just read your sig...

How can you be an agnostic Christian?

It's...really a long story. Involving Satanism(THE ATHEISTIC KIND NOT DEMON WORSHIPING ONE!), my ex, debates with her on Christianity and the like, and me eventually coming to believe a lot of her beliefs but still my Christian ones, and also the belief of a possibility of a God through not the Bible, but reason and logic, but also accepting the possibility of him not existing, which I have been told is the literal definition of Agnostic. Yet I still have faith in God through the Bible so...
It's really complicated.

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Postby Krjder » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:10 pm

Flardania wrote:
Krjder wrote:
Thank you for understanding, though I prefer to hold myself to higher emotional standards.. :(

I think the point is you can hold yourself to a higher standard but don't beat yourself up over it :)


I shall, because I have been educated all my life to remain calm and civilised in circumstances, by family and school. I have failed this, on an online forum of all places. It is most disappointing and distasteful.
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Postby Krjder » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:12 pm

Great Feng wrote:
Krjder wrote:Just read your sig...

How can you be an agnostic Christian?

It's...really a long story. Involving Satanism(THE ATHEISTIC KIND NOT DEMON WORSHIPING ONE!), my ex, debates with her on Christianity and the like, and me eventually coming to believe a lot of her beliefs but still my Christian ones, and also the belief of a possibility of a God through not the Bible, but reason and logic, but also accepting the possibility of him not existing, which I have been told is the literal definition of Agnostic. Yet I still have faith in God through the Bible so...
It's really complicated.


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Postby Aravea » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:13 pm

Deian salazar wrote:
New Chilokver wrote:wtf
go and take your self promised break from ns deian

Also, did you even read what I wrote before saying that?
I'm not raging or anything in that post-I'm explaining the five main alliance systems, and detailing why they work or don't work, and highlighting the facts why I think the IFC isn't working.



Deian the IFC is crumbling simply because none of the membership can agree upon its direction or its ultimate purpose. Simply put there are two to three factions within the membership. There is one faction that wishes to keep IFC as loose military alliance/humanitarian alliance similar to NATO wherein its ultimate purpose is to defend the interests of its members, while at the same time wishing to avoid having officials or other members of the IFC "infringe" on their sovereignty. In contrast the second faction seems to want closer political, economic, and military integration similar to that of the European Union, whereas the third faction consists of those who either want to keep the status quo or a mix of the best elements of both. The arguments up to now are simply symptoms of the root cause of differences in what direction the IFC should take. So thus we are at an impasse...What do we want the IFC to be? Do we want a simple military and humanitarian alliance or do we desire an EU esque body? Or do we want somethng in the middle? Anyways I am done ranting so onto the next order of business. Tell me would any of you guys be up for that cultural summit?
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Postby New Chilokver » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:18 pm

Deian salazar wrote:
New Chilokver wrote:wtf
go and take your self promised break from ns deian

Also, did you even read what I wrote before saying that?
I'm not raging or anything in that post-I'm explaining the five main alliance systems, and detailing why they work or don't work, and highlighting the facts why I think the IFC isn't working.

Yes, I did. My “wtf” was directed instead at your opening statement in said post, your confirmation of your inability to keep promises and now your latest post.

Deian, if you ever want to be respected, keep your promises, never talk about how good you are and please don't ever whine about your RL dramas online and ruin NS for other people.

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Postby Great Feng » Sat Feb 13, 2016 7:05 pm

Aravea wrote:
Deian salazar wrote:Also, did you even read what I wrote before saying that?
I'm not raging or anything in that post-I'm explaining the five main alliance systems, and detailing why they work or don't work, and highlighting the facts why I think the IFC isn't working.



Deian the IFC is crumbling simply because none of the membership can agree upon its direction or its ultimate purpose.
I agree entirely with everything said, even that bits I deleted.
My entire post was dedicated to explaining that in the shortest way possible. The differing opinions is caused by widely varying opinions.
And the current system is unable to deal with these opinions effectively, essentially locking us into a deadlock between the factions, such as the Democracy/Republican debate(Just with a third party) that is raging and dividing the nation and making it hard for anyone to agree on anything.

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Postby Aeyariss » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:40 pm

Deian salazar wrote:-The second, is the complete reverse of the first: a Dictatorship, and what I see as SACTO's model, though, there are some differences to SACTO's system as it is unique, and thus this is more a general overview. While not that good at preserving democracy within an alliance's structure(Though it depends on the dictator or group and the other facets, as there are exceptions to the rule), it allows quick and efficient responses and results in a more unified command structure that is not hampered by arguments as the first one is, as the dictator can squash squabbling with his or her authority. However, it's not all dictating everything-The so called dictator has to ensure members of his alliance are happy, without letting sides develop. This creates a more single party, single minded alliance that can work more efficiently towards it's goals, at the cost of a large democratic system(Though exceptions can be made to the general rule. Specific beats General).


Correction, IC-ly SACTO is a right wing organization that doesn't give a shit crap about democracy. But behind close door the main principles is actually Consensus and Cooperation. We do the discussion and democratic methods offsite, OOC-ly. We understand that to become efficient we need to get rid as much as red tape as possible, and all you have to do is to participate in the decision making process...IFC is too bureaucrap infested; and one person tries to force too many thing (*Cough* 2ria) the world brands hims as dictator. :lol: Although I like how you interpret your understanding toward SACTO.

as the leader of such an alliance needs to be able to appeal to the wants and needs of the general group whilst keeping order through use of both diplomacy and authority. It can also fail if the leader is a total and complete imbecile, indecisive, or incompetent in key areas, making so only the most talented or skilled can run this type effectively.


Well, basically the previous MF, UCASIRE, BABEL, whatever lesser formations used to existed typically falls under the above model: You are right though. I've seens lots of wannabe badass tries to lead a community of RPer but ends up getting sacked because they're a bloody idiot who doesn't know the principles of organizational behaviour, management and leadership. In SACTO context, pretty true without the No.1 and No.2 SACTO would be affected (if Cuscy got hit by a bus, or his illness caused him to retire, SACTO would pretty much ends).

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Postby The Lendol Archipelago » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:49 am

Aravea wrote:
Deian salazar wrote:Also, did you even read what I wrote before saying that?
I'm not raging or anything in that post-I'm explaining the five main alliance systems, and detailing why they work or don't work, and highlighting the facts why I think the IFC isn't working.



Deian the IFC is crumbling simply because none of the membership can agree upon its direction or its ultimate purpose. Simply put there are two to three factions within the membership. There is one faction that wishes to keep IFC as loose military alliance/humanitarian alliance similar to NATO wherein its ultimate purpose is to defend the interests of its members, while at the same time wishing to avoid having officials or other members of the IFC "infringe" on their sovereignty. In contrast the second faction seems to want closer political, economic, and military integration similar to that of the European Union, whereas the third faction consists of those who either want to keep the status quo or a mix of the best elements of both. The arguments up to now are simply symptoms of the root cause of differences in what direction the IFC should take. So thus we are at an impasse...What do we want the IFC to be? Do we want a simple military and humanitarian alliance or do we desire an EU esque body? Or do we want somethng in the middle? Anyways I am done ranting so onto the next order of business. Tell me would any of you guys be up for that cultural summit?

I agree, absolutely. Anyone in power who tries to push the IFC in any one of these directions gets shot down, and fast.

Yeah, but I'll take a bit of a back seat role in it, if you don't mind. (Definitely no speeches :p )
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:41 am

Krjder wrote:I actually don't know why I bothered... making Gleursmo and Operation Meltdown. They've been completely ignored and I pit time aside when I should have been studying. It just pisses me off that all that ever happens here now is arguments rather than anything productive.

No, no, no; I'm simply horrendously busy IRL. I've found time to order an IFC navy specifically for Operation Meltdown, and I'll be making a post in that thread later today.

New Chilokver wrote:So far as I can see, Crippling IFC Issue No 429 is a result of Inyursta blocking Ausitorian shipping through their claimed waters. This isn't some jackshit about people RPing differently or respecting what they've already drawn up on a map, it's a genuine territorial dispute and something to be ICly debated instead of endlessly spammed here. :roll:

In real life, the universally recognized UN standard for territorial waters stands at twelve nautical miles, though there are certain nations such as Somalia which bring that up to 200 nautical miles. However, there is and will never be a true UN organization of NS due to the sheer amount of nations on II (which lets me get away with all sorts of WMD warfare and enhanced interrogation :twisted:). Equally, we can't RP if we don't have common rules and gentlemen's agreements between us- for the sake of this post, I'd estimate the most commonly agreed upon upper limit for naval borders as a nation's underwater continental shelves. If there was a scale on IYF's map, I don't remember it and underwater geological features certainly weren't, ahem, featured. In the end, it depends more on how many nations recognize those territorial claims that makes them substantial.

There are 3 main goals in the IFC- global security and stability, the enforcement of basic civil rights and liberties and finally, the growing development and prosperity of other nations through international trade. I doubt IYF's actually broken any of the resolutions, but what he's doing is certainly in flagrant violation of their spirit. It would certainly be interesting to see what would happen if the Ausitorians sent an armed naval convoy through anyway.

It's much more than 12 nautical miles. But while Ausitorian (?) shipping continues to proceed through under foreign flags, let us move on the next stage in a game of multi-dimensional chess that these aggressive military powers are surprisingly ill-equipped to win. I must say SACTO is providing a rather flexible way to interpret 'non-aggression'. They seem to be breaking the treaty before it is even signed.

As for what is realistic in economics, most trade in advanced economies is not managed by nations, ergo managing trade at a nation level means not running advanced economies.

And Inyursta, in case you didn't notice, this is an internet forum - we are all confined to words.
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:43 am

Anyway, I'm fed up with these arguments interfering with IFC internal business. In the past month I've had to spend about 95% of my time on this thread responding to SACTO - one if the reasons why I'm simply giving up on them. This topic is meant to be for the IFC. IFC members, can we agree to make this topic IFC only?
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The Lendol Archipelago
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Founded: Mar 08, 2014
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Postby The Lendol Archipelago » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:47 am

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Anyway, I'm fed up with these arguments interfering with IFC internal business. This topic is meant to be for the IFC. IFC members, can we agree to make this topic IFC only?

Yes, let's.
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Singaporean Transhumans
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Founded: Dec 31, 2014
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Postby Singaporean Transhumans » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:05 am

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Anyway, I'm fed up with these arguments interfering with IFC internal business. In the past month I've had to spend about 95% of my time on this thread responding to SACTO - one if the reasons why I'm simply giving up on them. This topic is meant to be for the IFC. IFC members, can we agree to make this topic IFC only?

How did this even continue for that long is beyond me.
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Organized States
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Founded: Apr 26, 2014
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Postby Organized States » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:55 am

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:Anyway, I'm fed up with these arguments interfering with IFC internal business. In the past month I've had to spend about 95% of my time on this thread responding to SACTO - one if the reasons why I'm simply giving up on them. This topic is meant to be for the IFC. IFC members, can we agree to make this topic IFC only?

Perhaps we could have a discussion/chat thread that's open to everyone and allows for general talking as to both lessen the amount of non-related OOC discussion, and then we can close this thread here to only IFC.
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