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Aigeantir
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Postby Aigeantir » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:04 pm

New Carloso wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:God forbid you be deemed a "homophobe"...
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Oh jesus what the fuck

Literally worse than Hitler

So, when do we start sending the bombs? :D
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Torrumbarry
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Postby Torrumbarry » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:16 pm

Aigeantir wrote:
New Carloso wrote:Oh jesus what the fuck

Literally worse than Hitler

So, when do we start sending the bombs? :D


People invading Ardoki be like...

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New Roma Republic
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Postby New Roma Republic » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:30 pm

Aigeantir wrote:
New Carloso wrote:Oh jesus what the fuck

Literally worse than Hitler

So, when do we start sending the bombs? :D


To paraphrase Reagan: "My fellow New Romans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Adorki forever. We begin bombing in five minutes."
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Inyourfaceistan
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:34 pm

New Carloso wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:God forbid you be deemed a "homophobe"...
viewtopic.php?p=19448729#p19448729
viewtopic.php?p=19448859#p19448859

Oh jesus what the fuck

Literally worse than Hitler

Thats what the lower-left panel of the NS-ball comic was representing, when Cuscatlan showed me this.
If you look close enough at the stick figures you can see how it fits...

Aigeantir wrote:So, when do we start sending the bombs? :D

Don't be such a homophobe!
Do you want your people to end up in concentration I mean public enemy I mean reeducation I mean "tolerance camps"?


It's not French,it's not Spanish,it's Inyurstan
"Inyourfaceistan" refers to my player/user name, "Inyursta" is my IC name. NOT INYURSTAN. IF YOU CALL INYURSTA "INYURSTAN" THEN IT SHOWS THAT YOU CANT READ. Just refer to me as IYF or Stan.

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Aigeantir
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Postby Aigeantir » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:33 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
New Carloso wrote:Oh jesus what the fuck

Literally worse than Hitler

Thats what the lower-left panel of the NS-ball comic was representing, when Cuscatlan showed me this.
If you look close enough at the stick figures you can see how it fits...

Aigeantir wrote:So, when do we start sending the bombs? :D

Don't be such a homophobe!
Do you want your people to end up in concentration I mean public enemy I mean reeducation I mean "tolerance camps"?

Yes! The Nordic System Socialist Monarchist Centrist nation is a homophobe. :D At least I have a "Freedom of thought, belief or opinion, including religious freedoms, cause my nation doesn't have a single, government enforced, religion. Thanks to Cusc, I probably have a demographic in there of a few Shinto subscribers... or are all people from Nihon Christian?
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Country: Kingdom of Aigéantir, Region: Atlas

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New Aeyariss
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Postby New Aeyariss » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:35 pm

Aigeantir wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:Thats what the lower-left panel of the NS-ball comic was representing, when Cuscatlan showed me this.
If you look close enough at the stick figures you can see how it fits...


Don't be such a homophobe!
Do you want your people to end up in concentration I mean public enemy I mean reeducation I mean "tolerance camps"?

Yes! The Nordic System Socialist Monarchist Centrist nation is a homophobe. :D At least I have a "Freedom of thought, belief or opinion, including religious freedoms, cause my nation doesn't have a single, government enforced, religion. Thanks to Cusc, I probably have a demographic in there of a few Shinto subscribers... or are all people from Nihon Christian?


Shinto is actually recognized and protected though it is a minority religion.

Buddhism is in real troubles. But that is because of history.
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Flardania
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Postby Flardania » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:37 pm

Aigeantir wrote:
Inyourfaceistan wrote:Thats what the lower-left panel of the NS-ball comic was representing, when Cuscatlan showed me this.
If you look close enough at the stick figures you can see how it fits...


Don't be such a homophobe!
Do you want your people to end up in concentration I mean public enemy I mean reeducation I mean "tolerance camps"?

Yes! The Nordic System Socialist Monarchist Centrist nation is a homophobe. :D At least I have a "Freedom of thought, belief or opinion, including religious freedoms, cause my nation doesn't have a single, government enforced, religion. Thanks to Cusc, I probably have a demographic in there of a few Shinto subscribers... or are all people from Nihon Christian?

You have better luck finding Shinto from me
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Ardoki
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Postby Ardoki » Mon Aug 10, 2015 11:59 pm

I no longer recognise the Chilean incident.

I was very new to RPing back then, and I overacted at the barbarity of the Chileans. Why it was absolutely hilarious, it was not the proper thing to do. So just be sure Ardoki is no longer like that.

Inyourfaceistan wrote:My point is that Inyursta spends most of its resources in one area (defense), while less in other areas (welfare, public services*); while Ardoki seems to spend its resources in both and somehow have an expansive and top-of-the-line armed forces (from what I have seen) as well as a massive and all-inclusive welfare state.

But this is rapidly turning into a Threadjack so...

I will start by outlining the economy and welfare system of the Unified Ardokian Socialist Republic:

We have a mixed economy. The majority of the economy is a market-orientated economy, though there is still strong state involvement in the economy.

The state has a monopoly on the following sectors of the economy:

Natural Resources (All the resources of the nation are owned by the people through the state. The profits from the resources are used as a source of revenue for the government.)
Infrastructure (Telecommunications, Sewers, Roads, Bridges, Tunnels, Airports, Ports, Libraries, Parks, Pools, Recreational Centres, etcetera)
Utilities (Electricity, Water Supply, Gas Supply, Internet, Post - Profits are used as a source of revenue for the government.)
Finance (Banking, Insurance - Profits are used as a source of revenue for the government.)
Armaments (Weapons and Police/Military-Grade Equipment)
Emergency Services (Fire Service, Police Force, Ambulance Service)
Public Transport (Buses, Trains, Ferries, Trams - Profits are used as a source of revenue for the government.)
Healthcare (Single-Payer Universal Healthcare System)
Education (Single-Payer Universal Education System)

The rest of the economy works on the basis of Market Socialism with Worker Cooperatives. Worker Cooperatives are owned and managed by the workers themselves and run for the benefit of the workers (workers receive the profits, after the allocation of a share profits for reinvestment) in a market economy.
Worker Cooperatives have been proven to be capable of great success and competition with private enterprises in real life, so I view this as an economic alternative to capitalism which is superior (both socially and economically).

Our welfare system really isn't nearly as cumbersome as you would think.

Unemployment has been eliminated due to state policy of absorbing unemployed people into a temporary labour force until they can find a more permanent job. This labour force could work on infrastructure projects, natural resource extraction, postal service, cleaners, there are many possibilities. However this temporary labour force has been very small for decades due to the prosperity of the worker cooperatives. However a job in the public sector still fetches a wage which at the very least can afford someone a comfortable lifestyle, even though it is generally not as good as being a member of a worker cooperative.
We also have a mandatory superannuation scheme, where all workers and their employment institution must set aside a portion of their pay for use in their retirement. This has allowed us to all but eliminate old age pensions (except in the very rare cases when an individual needs supplemental support), saving the state billions.
Those with disabilities are given a liveable pension if they cannot participate in the workforce. Those who need help participating in the workforce are subsidised by the state (the state pays some of their wage/salary if they are not as efficient as others). Disability benefits are given to all those who are afflicted by disabilities or illnesses on the national list.
All forms of healthcare (including dental) are completely free and universally available to all in the country throughout the country via the national network of medical centres and hospitals. Taxes and revenue from state-owned enterprises pay for this.
Education is also completely free and universally available, from pre-school all the way up to and including university. Taxes and revenue from state-owned enterprises pay for this.
Temporary sickness benefits, parental leave benefits, flexible working benefits, among other things are available through the mandatory social insurance scheme further cutting welfare costs from the state.
Family benefits (such as the baby bonus, childcare and school bonus), public housing, student allowances and housing, emergency allowances and payments, etcetera, is all paid for by taxes and revenue from state-owned enterprises.

We don't overspend on our military, definitely not like the USA. However we have a military of decent size (under 0.5% of total population - I think this might be a little too small for a country such as mine), with advanced and up-to-date equipment.
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Head of Government: Grand Imperial Chancellor Kennedy Rowan Coleman
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The Predator Federation
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Postby The Predator Federation » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:54 am

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Postby The Predator Federation » Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:55 am

The Predator Federation wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=349218

GO GO GO!
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New Carloso
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Postby New Carloso » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:15 am

Ardoki wrote:-snip-

How big exactly is your population?
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Shazbotdom
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Postby Shazbotdom » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:32 am

The Predator Federation wrote:
The Predator Federation wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=349218

GO GO GO!

I've been allies with Scand for quite some time. Therefore if you do something, count me out.
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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:48 am

i have put Ardoki into a formula of mine as a country ten times less open to trade than Ausitoria typically regards as minimally acceptable, and on that basis I would expect Ausitoria probably has about ten billion dollars (per billion people in Ardoki) in annual trade with Ardoki, probably mostly indirect, via a complex web of shell companies in increasingly socialist states. This trade might be rather useful to Ardoki in times of war, as Ausitoria defends its trade, and regards SACTO as the single most dangerous organization to Ausitoria excluding Ralkovia and the Scandinvans.

However Ausitoria might be persuaded to put a stop to the trade if say Novo Wagondia and other respected IFC members made a good case and won a media campaign? Even the Ausitorian government pays attention to public opinion, particularly in an election year.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:54 am

Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:i have put Ardoki into a formula of mine as a country ten times less open to trade than Ausitoria typically regards as minimally acceptable, and on that basis I would expect Ausitoria probably has about ten billion dollars (per billion people in Ardoki) in annual trade with Ardoki, probably mostly indirect, via a complex web of shell companies in increasingly socialist states. This trade might be rather useful to Ardoki in times of war, as Ausitoria defends its trade, and regards SACTO as the single most dangerous organization to Ausitoria excluding Ralkovia and the Scandinvans.

However Ausitoria might be persuaded to put a stop to the trade if say Novo Wagondia and other respected IFC members made a good case and won a media campaign? Even the Ausitorian government pays attention to public opinion, particularly in an election year.


Hint: Your trade does not reach everywhere.

It does not reach into Nihon which had embargoed you, it's dependant territories, for example.

If somebody does not acknowledge that you trade with him, you do not. That is how NS works.
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Postby The Predator Federation » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:54 am

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=349218

Seriously I cannot be alone on this.
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Postby Ardoki » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:57 am

Novo Wagondia wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:
Believe me, that is not even half of the list.

Human experimentation, genocide... there is everything.


Upon thorough examination of the evidence, we have been convinced of the aggressive, radical, and violent nature of Ardoki's government, and are committed to a cooperative effort to topple the regime and restore full freedoms to the people. However, in line with Wagain foreign policy doctrine, we believe all avenues of diplomacy must be explored first, or we are no better than them. Perhaps an ultimatum, or some other shot across the bow.

United States Of Devonta wrote:The United States of Devonta will be open to an invasion of Ardoki but only if diplomacy is exhausted.

Any invasion of Ardoki by the IFC and/or SACTO will only see a small Devontan force deployed in a supporting rule; as we are currently on the brink of a massive regional conflict and will focus most of our resources on that.

Okay.

You may send your diplomatic parties (it would be even better if your leaders came as well) to our capital, New Socialist City, for a diplomatic conference to prevent any unnecessary escalations. Chairman Alesdair Moriarty will negotiate for the UASR, and the Communist Party is willing to negotiate.

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Postby The Predator Federation » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:13 am

Speaking of revolutions, I think I may have a nationalist one.
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Postby Luxdonia » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:26 am

Luxdonia wrote:
Luxdonia wrote:
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IFC Admissions Application


National Information
Formal Nation Name: The Kingdom of Luxdonia
Shortened Nation Name: Luxdonia
Demonym: Luxdonian
Capital city: Herald
National Population (RP): 22 million
Form of Government: Constitutional monarchy
Is your Government by the people? (exercised either directly or through elected representatives): Yes
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Centre
Head of State: King Henry the Ninth
Head of Government: Thomas Hull
Economic System: Regulated capitalism
Currency: Crown
Exchange Rate to NSD: 0.76 crown/1.00 NSD
Major Exports: Computers, bicycles, coal, oil, solar energy
Major Imports:
Language: Luxdonian
Very Brief History of your nation:
Map: (Optional)
IIwiki page link (If you have one): None yet.

Political and Civil Rights and Freedoms
Does your nation have
Freedom of thought: Yes
Freedom of belief (religion): Yes
Freedom of expression: Yes
Freedom of the media: Yes
Freedom of peaceful assembly: Yes
Freedom of association: Yes
Freedom of movement: Yes
Freedom from unreasonable search and seizure: Yes
Freedom from arbitrary detention or imprisonment: Yes
Freedom from slavery: Yes
Right to life, liberty and security of the individual: Yes
Right to vote (The ability to vote upon reaching the age of majority): Yes
Right to a fair trial, legal council, and a guarantee of habeas corpus: Yes
Right to not be subject to cruel or unusual punishment: Yes
Rights of equality (Equality regardless of racial, gender, sexual orientation, religion, age or mental or physical disability): Yes

Foreign Relations and Military Statistics
What other military alliances are you a part of? (UL, SCP, SACTO, etc.): International Union
What other non-military organizations are you a part of? (ISA, UPA, etc.): International Union
Foreign Policy: Peaceful.
Number of active military personnel (RP): 12,00
Number of reserve military personnel (RP): 5,000
Nuclear Arsenal (if any): None
Name of Military: The Royal Luxdonian Armed Forces (the RLAF)
Branches of Military: The Royal Luxdonian Air Force, Royal Luxdonian Navy, Royal Luxdonian Army
RP example (required - can be anything from a short paragraph on this form to a link to an RP example on another thread):

Delegate to the IFC Council Information
Name:
Age: 45
Gender: Female
Biography (optional, but highly encouraged):
Education (optional):
Reason for your nation desiring to join the IFC: To establish relations with other liberty loving nations.
Do you hereby agree to abide by the terms and conditions set forth by the IFC's Charter?:
Signature: __________Thomas Hull___________________
Date:_______8/8/15________________

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Is anyone going to be looking at my application?

Bump for visibility.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:36 am

Luxdonia wrote:
Luxdonia wrote:Is anyone going to be looking at my application?

Bump for visibility.

Honestly, as a member,
You are missing a few things within your Application. Including a RP examble.
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Libraria and Ausitoria
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:39 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
Libraria and Ausitoria wrote:i have put Ardoki into a formula of mine as a country ten times less open to trade than Ausitoria typically regards as minimally acceptable, and on that basis I would expect Ausitoria probably has about ten billion dollars (per billion people in Ardoki) in annual trade with Ardoki, probably mostly indirect, via a complex web of shell companies in increasingly socialist states. This trade might be rather useful to Ardoki in times of war, as Ausitoria defends its trade, and regards SACTO as the single most dangerous organization to Ausitoria excluding Ralkovia and the Scandinvans.

However Ausitoria might be persuaded to put a stop to the trade if say Novo Wagondia and other respected IFC members made a good case and won a media campaign? Even the Ausitorian government pays attention to public opinion, particularly in an election year.


Hint: Your trade does not reach everywhere.

Hint: stop being so aggressive and pay attention. I said 'on that basis'.

Incidentally, it is highly likely that Ausitoria does trade a little with you via Capintern proxies who you can't stop, but you can believe what you like.
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Disclaimer: Notwithstanding any mention of their nations, Ausitoria and its canon does not exist nor impact the canon of many IFC & SACTO & closed-region nations; and it is harassment to presume it does. However in accordance with my open-door policy the converse does not apply: they still impact Ausitoria's canon.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:58 am

LAA wrote:Hint: stop being so aggressive and pay attention. I said 'on that basis'.

Incidentally, it is highly likely that Ausitoria does trade a little with you via Capintern proxies who you can't stop, but you can believe what you like.


If somebody drives Ausitorian goods into Nihon, said goods are confiscated and person arrested. Probably lands in prison.

Also as a note, my intelligence agencies are heavy present in business, generally with purpose of targeting economic institutions that Nihonese government or Zaibatsus do not like. So I would believe that Ausitorian corporations would be one of primary ones where Gunjitai would attempt to put their agents into, infiltrate them and take control to cause crash.

Corrupt, inspire or blackmail important personnel and make them carry mistaken decision that will ruin their company, allowing Nihonese one to get into it's place. Ausitoria is considered enemy, thus it will be target of economic sabotage carried by Nihonese intelligence.

Certain Yakuza groups will also probably be involved, sensing chance to earn a lot of money. And as long as they damage your corporations, Gunjitai will give them free hand.
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Inyourfaceistan wrote:You didn't know that Cusc is actually a 4-armed cyborg genius commander and skillful warrior created in secret by a cabal of rich capitalist financiers built to lead and army of drones and other renegades against and overbearing socialist regime?
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Postby Libraria and Ausitoria » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:02 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
LAA wrote:Hint: stop being so aggressive and pay attention. I said 'on that basis'.

Incidentally, it is highly likely that Ausitoria does trade a little with you via Capintern proxies who you can't stop, but you can believe what you like.

Also as a note, my intelligence agencies are heavy present in business, generally with purpose of targeting economic institutions that Nihonese government or Zaibatsus do not like. So I would believe that Ausitorian corporations would be one of primary ones where Gunjitai would attempt to put their agents into, infiltrate them and take control to cause crash.

Corrupt, inspire or blackmail important personnel and make them carry mistaken decision that will ruin their company, allowing Nihonese one to get into it's place. Ausitoria is considered enemy, thus it will be target of economic sabotage carried by Nihonese intelligence.

Certain Yakuza groups will also probably be involved, sensing chance to earn a lot of money. And as long as they damage your corporations, Gunjitai will give them free hand.


Ausitoria spends 4% of GDP on intelligence and would certainly know all about such events - and for as long as they have been going on, we have been at (initially economic) war. Ausitoria does not tolerate economic sabotage.
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The Aestorian Commonwealth - Pax Prosperitas - Gloria in Maere - (Factbook)

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Postby Shazbotdom » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:08 am

Pffft


I'd sabotage both of your economies for a Klondike bar.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:17 am

2ria wrote:Ausitoria spends 4% of GDP on intelligence and would certainly know all about such events - and for as long as they have been going on, we have been at war.


Well, to begin about spending. I will answer the intelligence questions later, since there is no chance you would have detected all even if this was 40% of your GDP, but about that. You claim that:

GDP: $215.9 trillion =>

BUDGET: $129.7 trillion =>

Now, no matter value of your currency, this means that your budget is roughly 50% of your GDP. To collect such budget you would need roughly 50% of all taxes combined.

Which would have destroyed your economy and stopped growth for good.

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Postby Ardoki » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:21 am

New Aeyariss wrote:
2ria wrote:Ausitoria spends 4% of GDP on intelligence and would certainly know all about such events - and for as long as they have been going on, we have been at war.


Well, to begin about spending. I will answer the intelligence questions later, since there is no chance you would have detected all even if this was 40% of your GDP, but about that. You claim that:

GDP: $215.9 trillion =>

BUDGET: $129.7 trillion =>

Now, no matter value of your currency, this means that your budget is roughly 50% of your GDP. To collect such budget you would need roughly 50% of all taxes combined.

Which would have destroyed your economy and stopped growth for good.

Shaz - here ;)!

So if he only collects 50% of his taxes, it would destroy his economy? What do you think would happen if he collected all of his taxes?
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