The IU Conflict Discussion (OOC only, IU only)

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

This chat thread is for the IU conflict which concerns the destruction of the signup threads.
Currently, the IU remnants are being observed by FA&A. Any signups here are not going to be looked at since this is discussion.
Please keep discussion about what we should do, what we can do, and if you want military action, please telegram me, as announced by the post made by me before EN announced the hacking of the IU.
Please refer and telegram FA&A or EN for any questions about the IU, and proposals of the IU and how it should be reformed should be said here in order to get a public vote, then to me, so I can telegram EN.
Don't even bring up the words military and coup in the same sentence. I'm pissed off as it is, and so is EN, along with Every Other member, or so I'm told otherwise.

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[Chilokver]

The problem with our alliance is that any one administrator can bring it down.

[Valaran]

I would suggest looking at how the Axis, IFC and UL run their shows. They are by far the most successful alliances, and all have endured these problems (and worse) before.

[West Aurelia]

So basically:

The IU admin account was hacked by Qubec, who is our leader. This was confirmed by a forum mod. Qubec has since been impeached. Am I correct?

[Valaran]

Great. Just fucking great. I hope this isn't EN or Valaran or Valdiu. I'm going to be PISSED if it's one of them.

I know its not important now, but I never even had access to the old admin account, even before the password changed... (not to mention that I was alseep)

[Valaran]

So basically:

The IU admin account was hacked by Qubec, who is our leader. This was confirmed by a forum mod. Qubec has since been impeached. Am I correct?

Qubec was impeached for several other things as well . But yeah.

[Zatak]

I believe the best thing we can do now is a total reform of the IU from the ground up as admittedly with Qubec and EN in power we got nothing done.

[Valaran]

I believe the best thing we can do now is a total reform of the IU from the ground up as admittedly with Qubec and EN in power we got nothing done.

That wasn't EN's fault though. I also think we shouldn't just rely on those in power to do stuff for us... it needs to be open so that we can all contribute with our won ideas, suggestions, etc.

But reforms are certainly needed.

[Zatak]

I believe the best thing we can do now is a total reform of the IU from the ground up as admittedly with Qubec and EN in power we got nothing done.

That wasn't EN's fault though. I also think we shouldn't just rely on those in power to do stuff for us... it needs to be open so that we can all contribute with our won ideas, suggestions, etc.

But reforms are certainly needed.

Well the two leaders of the alliance left and did not technically do anything to help transition power to well anyone.


i posted a new app for the group just so we had something

[Chilokver]

Oh, definitely.

[Valaran]

That wasn't EN's fault though. I also think we shouldn't just rely on those in power to do stuff for us... it needs to be open so that we can all contribute with our won ideas, suggestions, etc.

But reforms are certainly needed.

Well the two leaders of the alliance left and did not technically do anything to help transition power to well anyone.


i posted a new app for the group just so we had something

EN had RL stuff going on. That takes precedence over anything.


And when he was able to come on, he was active and helpful (ides of the IU storefront). He also wasn't the day-to-day leader (which was Qubec), and most founders tend to take a backseat in these alliances, only helping when its needed. Just like Bratisalv, Gibbern for the IFC, Boijkami for the UL, and Aeyariss for the Axis.

[Zatak]

also Cyllea left

i thought he was downgraded to observer

[Zatak]

Well the two leaders of the alliance left and did not technically do anything to help transition power to well anyone.


i posted a new app for the group just so we had something

EN had RL stuff going on. That takes precedence over anything.


And when he was able to come on, he was active and helpful (ides of the IU storefront). He also wasn't the day-to-day leader (which was Qubec), and most founders tend to take a backseat in these alliances, only helping when its needed. Just like Bratisalv, Gibbern for the IFC, Boijkami for the UL, and Aeyariss for the Axis.

It was mostly qubec who never really did anything to push the alliance when he demanded his approval first

[Valaran]

also Cyllea left

i thought he was downgraded to observer

That's a shame. Cyl is good.

[Valaran]

It was mostly qubec who never really did anything to push the alliance when he demanded his approval first

No disagreement there.

[Zatak]

also Cyllea left

i thought he was downgraded to observer

That's a shame. Cyl is good.

I can TG him and see if he wants full membership again when we get the group back up

[Valaran]

That's a shame. Cyl is good.

I can TG him and see if he wants full membership again when we get the group back up

Well him and In are in the same region so I can just ask there.

But more improtantly, what reforms should we enact?

[Zatak]

It was mostly qubec who never really did anything to push the alliance when he demanded his approval first

No disagreement there.

actually qubec almost never did anything really

I did try and stay in my military position by organizing the IU forces into a cleaner and much organized force while also trying to maintain said forces and promote war games.

Furry took up a major role in leadership when it was needed and also tried to improve the group

We all had a hand in helping but i noticed the qubec and Tuva who claimed to be leaders of the group never actually did anything to help the group

[Zatak]

I can TG him and see if he wants full membership again when we get the group back up

Well him and In are in the same region so I can just ask there.

But more improtantly, what reforms should we enact?

Everything.

[Valaran]

Well him and In are in the same region so I can just ask there.

But more improtantly, what reforms should we enact?

Everything.

Anything specific you want to suggest?

No disagreement there.

actually qubec almost never did anything really

I did try and stay in my military position by organizing the IU forces into a cleaner and much organized force while also trying to maintain said forces and promote war games.

Furry took up a major role in leadership when it was needed and also tried to improve the group

We all had a hand in helping but i noticed the qubec and Tuva who claimed to be leaders of the group never actually did anything to help the group

Yeah I agree with that.

[Zatak]

The entire government needs reformed as it is failing this includes new positions and position leaders along with many others including in my opinion a form of IU constitution.

We need to revive the IU bank and economic center as well since it was a amazing idea but again no one ran it good.

While i still believe i can run the military i will say that it also needs be to started from scratch again.

i still want a IU store front and a stock exchange center.

We also need to try and recruit more active members

[Valaran]

The entire government needs reformed as it is failing this includes new positions and position leaders along with many others including in my opinion a form of IU constitution.

We need to revive the IU bank and economic center as well since it was a amazing idea but again no one ran it good.

While i still believe i can run the military i will say that it also needs be to started from scratch again.

i still want a IU store front and a stock exchange center.

We also need to try and recruit more active members

There are pretty much all the stuff I would have said that needs to be reformed.

The only thing is I think the military was done fine, so relatively little needs to be changed there.

[Zatak]

and also my nation aint in a great position to give massive funds so a reform will give me time to rack up some cash as the Zatakian economy has seen no growth and higher unemployment

[Zatak]

The entire government needs reformed as it is failing this includes new positions and position leaders along with many others including in my opinion a form of IU constitution.

We need to revive the IU bank and economic center as well since it was a amazing idea but again no one ran it good.

While i still believe i can run the military i will say that it also needs be to started from scratch again.

i still want a IU store front and a stock exchange center.

We also need to try and recruit more active members

There are pretty much all the stuff I would have said that needs to be reformed.

The only thing is I think the military was done fine, so relatively little needs to be changed there.

No the military needs reformed


i had no idea what we had or what bases we had which made it hard for me to do anything

even the organization needed massive changes almost daily because i left out thing or said things wernt in the military anymore

[Valaran]

There are pretty much all the stuff I would have said that needs to be reformed.

The only thing is I think the military was done fine, so relatively little needs to be changed there.

No the military needs reformed


i had no idea what we had or what bases we had which made it hard for me to do anything

even the organization needed massive changes almost daily because i left out thing or said things wernt in the military anymore

No what I meant is the the structure of how its done remains the same, as do most past contributions.

And only said less reform relative to the others. just do the bases, wargames, updated contirbutions and set up a proper procedure for the military arm and its mainly done.