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Asignism movement (IDEOLOGY OOC)

Postby Asigna » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:59 am

OOC: I am looking for people willing to create common ideological front with me, around national progressivism. One can relate their own ideologies to this one if they sound similar.

What is Patriotic progressivism?

For starters.

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The Phi is the symbol often used to represent the
community oriented ideology of Patriotic progressivism

Patriotic progressivism, colloquially known with its slang identifier "Asignism" (Derived from the Filipino name of the party who upholds this ideology in the Philippines, Asignatura Partido ng Pilipnas) is an ideology created by Erin Terten, the founder of the Asigna party in the Philippines and its incumbent President. His views where rather publicized in his editorials for the weekly newsletters of his party which is entitled "And masa" (the masses) which expresses journals of the most appropriate thing to do in the current political situations in the eyes of a patriotic progressivist.

Not to be confused with conventional progressivism, patriotic progressivism believes in the following points which it treats as its fundamentals.

- It declares that nationalism/patriotism is the means for nations to improve or develop. So that nations who seek to rise should unite themselves under the banner of inspiration and pride of their nation in order for them to make an effective community that acts as one people or community.

- It rejects political homogeneousness as it believes certain nations would not become effective under conventional democracy as displayed to us by the west's debacle in Iraq. Certain nations need a strongman that answers properly to the issues such as sectarianism and other things to keep the nation together.

- It supports the usage of mass media and education as apparatuses to gain popular understanding for the movement of national progressivism.

- Though it supports democracy, it does not agree that the western model of democracy should be imposed on every single nation. Rather, if a dictator remains in power through popular support, they are considered as legitimate leaders since they act while being backed by the support of their people. As long as popular support exists to back a leadership, there is democracy, it further argues these type of leaderships are better than nations who have leaders elected yet still in power even though their own people already begin to look at them with discontent and disdain. Example: Obama.

- The bayan (Filipino: "the people") should always remain united. It rejects individualism for some communities.

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"That principle of total individualism only applies for nations who are big like the US, because even when divided by conflicting interests of individuals, their numbers could easily deal with threats that come by them, however, that is not the case in the Philippines and other nations who are not as big in terms of territory or population, those nations we could say who are physically fragile. We are still a small nation (by all means "still" is being used because possibilities might make the Philippines territorially larger) and this small nation of ours demands that a collectivist attitude must be maintained by its people, this is a small nation, we need not to be divided, it would only make us weaker. Such, we have competitors or potentially, even enemies in the region, such as China.

We ought to act together, culture is not subjective after all, culture depends on the circumstances that shape a country's people, influenced by natural factors such as availability of land masses that could become settlements, in this country, when at times we were divided we were easily conquered and lost therefore subjected to torture and oppression by the foreign powers, we never want to let that happen again, so we could not say that we should act individualistic rather we should offer up ourselves for the good of society. As this small society of ours, the Filipino people is easier to handle under the guide of one particular idea than big nations like China and the US, they barely could contain their population under one idea which is why democracy is urgent in their region."


- Minorities should be given rights but they should remain united towards the cause of a singular community, to support and back the nation, the community.

- A nation should not be united under a linguistic banner but rather should be united under the banner of shared values such as respect, justice, celebrating a nation's development achieved under progressivism and a common historical background. This way sectarian tensions rooted under multiculturalism or heritage would be neutralized.

- It calls for competence. It calls for all nations oppressed by the after and passive effects of historical western hegemony, such as the chaos in the middle east, the chaos and the plight in Africa and for the nations bullied by stronger and arrogant nations to rise up with force of arms through an armed revolt and unite to show the rest of the world that these people no longer want to be oppressed so they break free from the trend and to convey a message such as "don't mess with us". The armed revolt is not literal, it could be through show of force in any way, a competent leadership and an attitude of belligerency as acts of protest.

- It then calls for the nations who promulgated the ideology of national progress to march and ally with other nations under the banner of progress not only to further create world peace, but also to strengthen the march for the improvement of mankind.
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Postby El Cuscatlan » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:00 am

Writing as representative of Sonacist movement, I am interested in cooperation.
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Postby Iraniyyah » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:03 am

This could maybe work with Iraniyyah
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Postby Asigna » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:04 am

El Cuscatlan wrote:Writing as representative of Sonacist movement, I am interested in cooperation.


Even though there are significant differences, as long as progress is achieved, let's consider each other as allies. :hug:
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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
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THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby Whiteshore » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:07 am

Aguilar has cited Patriotic Progressivism as one of his main political influences in his speeches and is interested in creating an ideology which is a hybrid of said system and social democracy.
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Postby Zhouran » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:11 am

Mmmhhhh... an ideological front. Interesting concept in NS.

Although, the only thing I share is democracy.

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Postby Asigna » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:14 am

Zhouran wrote:Mmmhhhh... an ideological front. Interesting concept in NS.

Although, the only thing I share is democracy.


Oh, come on. What about progress?
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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
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THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby Whiteshore » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:21 am

Asigna, reply to my post?
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Postby Iraniyyah » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:22 am

and mine.
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Postby Asigna » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:23 am

Whiteshore wrote:Aguilar has cited Patriotic Progressivism as one of his main political influences in his speeches and is interested in creating an ideology which is a hybrid of said system and social democracy.


*Looks unto the definition of social democracy*

Nice. This is good. Social democracy can become the end means for the nation who follows PPism.
NS's resident Filipino patriot. May also be that weird Vietnamese guy whose name must not be spoken.

Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
Hukbo/Military -
THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby Iraniyyah » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:24 am

We could do this minus the democracy and minority rights
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Postby Asigna » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:25 am

Iraniyyah wrote:We could do this minus the democracy and minority rights


Then progressivism is rooted out. In the field of minority rights, there is no compromise.
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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
Hukbo/Military -
THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby Iraniyyah » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:27 am

Asigna wrote:
Iraniyyah wrote:We could do this minus the democracy and minority rights


Then progressivism is rooted out. In the field of minority rights, there is no compromise.

well.
I guess we could do it with no religious rights.
Does not represent views. (although i am Shiite)
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Postby Asigna » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:27 am

Iraniyyah wrote:
Asigna wrote:
Then progressivism is rooted out. In the field of minority rights, there is no compromise.

well.
I guess we could do it with no religious rights.


There's still no compromise.

Respect is one of the key words.
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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
Hukbo/Military -
THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby Whiteshore » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:28 am

Asigna wrote:
Whiteshore wrote:Aguilar has cited Patriotic Progressivism as one of his main political influences in his speeches and is interested in creating an ideology which is a hybrid of said system and social democracy.


*Looks unto the definition of social democracy*

Nice. This is good. Social democracy can become the end means for the nation who follows PPism.

Yes, and Social Democratic(with a nationalist lean)Whiteshore FTW!
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

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Postby Zhouran » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:28 am

Asigna wrote:
Zhouran wrote:Mmmhhhh... an ideological front. Interesting concept in NS.

Although, the only thing I share is democracy.


Oh, come on. What about progress?

Well, Zhouran is liberal.

But it says "Asignism Movement."

Zhouran follows democratic socialism.

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Postby Iraniyyah » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:29 am

Asigna wrote:
Iraniyyah wrote:well.
I guess we could do it with no religious rights.


There's still no compromise.

Respect is one of the key words.

Respect for the Shiites which compromise 99.9% of the pop. We can do it silly :P
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Postby Asigna » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:30 am

Iraniyyah wrote:Respect for the Shiites which compromise 99.9% of the pop. We can do it silly :P


What about the Sunnis? :(
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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
Hukbo/Military -
THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby Iraniyyah » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:31 am

Asigna wrote:
Iraniyyah wrote:Respect for the Shiites which compromise 99.9% of the pop. We can do it silly :P


What about the Sunnis? :(

There are litterally none in Iraniyyah
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Postby Flardania » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:57 am

I don't know, tell me if Taitsuism is relatable in any way.
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Postby Whiteshore » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:58 am

El Cuscatlan, what do you think of Aguilar planning to adopt a hybrid system of Social Democracy and Asignism?
My Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.49

My favorite singers are Psy,Carly Rae Jepsen,and Katy Perry

#DownWithReactionaries
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Postby Asigna » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:59 am

Flardania wrote:I don't know, tell me if Taitsuism is relatable in any way.


67%

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NS's resident Filipino patriot. May also be that weird Vietnamese guy whose name must not be spoken.

Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
Hukbo/Military -
THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby The Time Alliance » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:01 am

Well. I can form another political party with this policy.

It looks interesting for sure

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Postby Asigna » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:02 am

The Time Alliance wrote:Well. I can form another political party with this policy.

It looks interesting for sure


I will join such a political party. Anyways, can one explain how the NS party system works?
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Erian: If you are gay (like me) and looking, PM me. ;/\) (SO I CAN PRAY YOUR SOUL BURNS IN HELL) Kekekekek. No straighty and no wamen. I want no pussycats.

The Filipino dude is a Mangotreestian, yes, he is a believer in the gospel of the mango tree. The one true religion.
Totalitarian Theocracy
THE GREATER PHILIPPINE BAYAN
Hukbo/Military -
THE HOMELAND TERRITORIES - foreign affairs
Visit our nation! - Asigna TV - Know the Light of Heaven

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Postby Vedria » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:03 am

Love it. Just needs more...


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