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Luepola
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Postby Luepola » Thu May 08, 2014 7:42 pm

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Application to the International Freedom Alliance

Formal Country Name: The Sovereign Federation of Luepola (Luepolan: Ka Soverte Federazon fe Lupola)
Capital: Romagriá
Population: 545,000,000 [545 million] (I've chosen to keep it at approximately this number for slightly more realistic RPing. My IG population is currently 1.038 billion)
Head of State: President Ronas Sabasulu (elections coming in 1-2 months)
Head of Government: President Ronas Sabasulu
Form of Government: Federal Republic
Economic System: Free-Market Capitalism
Military Size (active): 1,844,280 [1.85 million] (plus 4,303,320 [4.3 million] reserves)
Reason for Joining IFA: We admire the stance of this alliance and its member nations, and wish to ally ourselves with a group whom we believe to be politically and economically like-minded.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? Right (Well, it's a bit more complicated, but I won't explain unless I need to).
Is your Government by the people? Yes: Elected representative voting, except in some areas (mainly elections).
Delegate to the IFA: Markus Ceregaya (Will change after elections)
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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Thu May 08, 2014 11:53 pm

Luepola wrote:page 25 boiiiiiiiiizzzz

Application to the International Freedom Alliance

Formal Country Name: The Sovereign Federation of Luepola (Luepolan: Ka Soverte Federazon fe Lupola)
Capital: Romagriá
Population: 545,000,000 [545 million] (I've chosen to keep it at approximately this number for slightly more realistic RPing. My IG population is currently 1.038 billion)
Head of State: President Ronas Sabasulu (elections coming in 1-2 months)
Head of Government: President Ronas Sabasulu
Form of Government: Federal Republic
Economic System: Free-Market Capitalism
Military Size (active): 1,844,280 [1.85 million] (plus 4,303,320 [4.3 million] reserves)
Reason for Joining IFA: We admire the stance of this alliance and its member nations, and wish to ally ourselves with a group whom we believe to be politically and economically like-minded.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? Right (Well, it's a bit more complicated, but I won't explain unless I need to).
Is your Government by the people? Yes: Elected representative voting, except in some areas (mainly elections).
Delegate to the IFA: Markus Ceregaya (Will change after elections)


What other military alliances are you part of?
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Country Info: http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Bratislav

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Luepola
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Postby Luepola » Fri May 09, 2014 12:19 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Luepola wrote:page 25 boiiiiiiiiizzzz

Application to the International Freedom Alliance

Formal Country Name: The Sovereign Federation of Luepola (Luepolan: Ka Soverte Federazon fe Lupola)
Capital: Romagriá
Population: 545,000,000 [545 million] (I've chosen to keep it at approximately this number for slightly more realistic RPing. My IG population is currently 1.038 billion)
Head of State: President Ronas Sabasulu (elections coming in 1-2 months)
Head of Government: President Ronas Sabasulu
Form of Government: Federal Republic
Economic System: Free-Market Capitalism
Military Size (active): 1,844,280 [1.85 million] (plus 4,303,320 [4.3 million] reserves)
Reason for Joining IFA: We admire the stance of this alliance and its member nations, and wish to ally ourselves with a group whom we believe to be politically and economically like-minded.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? Right (Well, it's a bit more complicated, but I won't explain unless I need to).
Is your Government by the people? Yes: Elected representative voting, except in some areas (mainly elections).
Delegate to the IFA: Markus Ceregaya (Will change after elections)


What other military alliances are you part of?


None, as of right now; I just withdrew from the Western Coalition, and I was once part of some Christian Nation Pact or something with a bunch of new nations at the time (months ago). So, for all practical purposes, none.
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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Fri May 09, 2014 2:59 pm

Luepola wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
What other military alliances are you part of?


None, as of right now; I just withdrew from the Western Coalition, and I was once part of some Christian Nation Pact or something with a bunch of new nations at the time (months ago). So, for all practical purposes, none.


Everything seems good - welcome to the IFA!
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Luepola
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Postby Luepola » Fri May 09, 2014 4:13 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Luepola wrote:
None, as of right now; I just withdrew from the Western Coalition, and I was once part of some Christian Nation Pact or something with a bunch of new nations at the time (months ago). So, for all practical purposes, none.


Everything seems good - welcome to the IFA!


Thank you!

I know I'm a new member, but what are the policies for military contribution? Is there a minimum or maximum as to how many troops I can allocate, and do I need to standardize armaments (we use locally-produced, indigenous arms and calibers)?
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The United Regions
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Postby The United Regions » Fri May 09, 2014 4:18 pm

Luepola wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
Everything seems good - welcome to the IFA!


Thank you!

I know I'm a new member, but what are the policies for military contribution? Is there a minimum or maximum as to how many troops I can allocate, and do I need to standardize armaments (we use locally-produced, indigenous arms and calibers)?

2 million is the active duty military cap and I believe you can use what ever weapons you want. I do recommend that as you are a new member your experience will be enhanced as an IFA member if you move to Atlas[region].
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President: Muhammad Blaccic
Prime Minister: David Bell
Capital: Drasona
Government Type: Constitutional Parliamentary Republic
Economic System: Laissez Faire Capitalism
Status: PEACE
Armed Forces Size: 350,000 (active) [950,000 Reserve]
Population: 16,000,000
Region: Atlas
Demonym: Capitalist or Mormon

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Demporia
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Postby Demporia » Fri May 09, 2014 4:46 pm

Bratislav wrote:
VOTE COUNT FOR APPROVAL OF THE IMA NEUTRAL FERRY POLICY (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=268519&p=19985757#p19985531)

YAY: 4
NAY: 2
ABSTAIN: 3





I respect the opinion of all IFA matters on this issue. It is essential that we have a serious conversation on such a potential policy. From my view point, this policy is just a form to allow supplies to be transported without obstruction from enemy unity. It doesn't force us to use the IMA to transport supplies, but is an option.

There is one concern that has been raised and I pose this question to Demporia. If a country is under attack, than what is to stop an enemy country from using the IMA to ship weapons/troops to that country? Given the country can't attack IMA vessels it would provide a means for the enemy to send supplies without any obstruction. I would like Demporia to clarify this.


To put it in perspective, whats to stop you from doing the same? Regardless of our affiliations the IMA is a neutral party. However, this policy was not proposed with weapon shipments, or I'm surprised it even came up... slave trading in mind. It was drawn up with the distinct hope that the economies of affiliated nations would not be completely decimated due to any outside influences. The IMA has yet to form a policy on weapons of mass destruction, or even on the transport of arms. Still, as I've said this does not correlate with this policy. As it has been designed to ship medical supplies, and to not hinder trade and essential international communication within war time. And also to make an internationally supported shipping option to deter pirates, among other unscrupulous individuals, and to cut down shipping prices during peace. Not to create some untouchable arms dealer, in the guise of the IMA.

This is of the utmost importance simply because, even if damaging the economy of any enemy might provide a temporary victory. It would hardly perpetuate a thriving global state in the long run. Keep in mind that this policy will only affect parties affiliated with the IMA and the IMA itself. And not those outside of it, and thus these parties should have at least some reliance on each other trade-wise regardless. So, the creation of such a policy is in the best interest of the entire world stage, and the international standard of living as a whole.

Finally, I would like to state that this would only provide one option. And does not force you to rely entirely on the IMA for shipping. Domestic shipping was, and is not, and will never be discouraged, let along monopolized by our organization. As this stands against everything we were built upon. I do hope I've cleared up any misconceptions here, and that I've convinced any who were leaning towards voting nay, to instead vote for this policy. If you have any more questions feel free to pose them. I do thank you for your time.
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Smoya
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Postby Smoya » Fri May 09, 2014 5:44 pm

I have too little knowledge on the IMA, so I had to abstain.
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Demporia
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Postby Demporia » Fri May 09, 2014 5:46 pm

Smoya wrote:I have too little knowledge on the IMA, so I had to abstain.

Entirely understandable. One should never make a misinformed decision.

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Luepola
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Postby Luepola » Fri May 09, 2014 7:39 pm

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Giliberafta
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Postby Giliberafta » Fri May 09, 2014 8:11 pm

Formal Country Name: The Federal Parliamentary Republic of Giliberafta
Capital: Grand City
Population: 128 million
Head of State: Prime Minister Randy Moss
Head of Government: see above
Form of Government: Federal Parliamentary Constitutional Republic
Economic System: Mixed Economy(leaning towards socialism, but not by to much)
Military Size (active): 30,500
Reason for Joining IFA: To spread and promote democracy, personal freedom, and political freedom; to ally with nations with similar views
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Currently, it's Far-Left, culturally
Is your Government by the people (exercised either directly or through elected representatives)? All elections are done by the popular vote. They may also request referendums for anything they would disagree with(an appointed bureaucrat, a new law, etc.)
Delegate to the IFA: Deputy Minister Franklin Ortiz

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Bratislav
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Founded: May 03, 2013
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Postby Bratislav » Fri May 09, 2014 8:19 pm

Luepola wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
Everything seems good - welcome to the IFA!


Thank you!

I know I'm a new member, but what are the policies for military contribution? Is there a minimum or maximum as to how many troops I can allocate, and do I need to standardize armaments (we use locally-produced, indigenous arms and calibers)?


As of yet, there is no armament standardization. However, in the IFA Rapid Reaction Force there is standardization. You are free to allocate how many troops you want to the IFA RRF.

Demporia wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
VOTE COUNT FOR APPROVAL OF THE IMA NEUTRAL FERRY POLICY (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=268519&p=19985757#p19985531)

YAY: 4
NAY: 2
ABSTAIN: 3





I respect the opinion of all IFA matters on this issue. It is essential that we have a serious conversation on such a potential policy. From my view point, this policy is just a form to allow supplies to be transported without obstruction from enemy unity. It doesn't force us to use the IMA to transport supplies, but is an option.

There is one concern that has been raised and I pose this question to Demporia. If a country is under attack, than what is to stop an enemy country from using the IMA to ship weapons/troops to that country? Given the country can't attack IMA vessels it would provide a means for the enemy to send supplies without any obstruction. I would like Demporia to clarify this.


To put it in perspective, whats to stop you from doing the same? Regardless of our affiliations the IMA is a neutral party. However, this policy was not proposed with weapon shipments, or I'm surprised it even came up... slave trading in mind. It was drawn up with the distinct hope that the economies of affiliated nations would not be completely decimated due to any outside influences. The IMA has yet to form a policy on weapons of mass destruction, or even on the transport of arms. Still, as I've said this does not correlate with this policy. As it has been designed to ship medical supplies, and to not hinder trade and essential international communication within war time. And also to make an internationally supported shipping option to deter pirates, among other unscrupulous individuals, and to cut down shipping prices during peace. Not to create some untouchable arms dealer, in the guise of the IMA.

This is of the utmost importance simply because, even if damaging the economy of any enemy might provide a temporary victory. It would hardly perpetuate a thriving global state in the long run. Keep in mind that this policy will only affect parties affiliated with the IMA and the IMA itself. And not those outside of it, and thus these parties should have at least some reliance on each other trade-wise regardless. So, the creation of such a policy is in the best interest of the entire world stage, and the international standard of living as a whole.

Finally, I would like to state that this would only provide one option. And does not force you to rely entirely on the IMA for shipping. Domestic shipping was, and is not, and will never be discouraged, let along monopolized by our organization. As this stands against everything we were built upon. I do hope I've cleared up any misconceptions here, and that I've convinced any who were leaning towards voting nay, to instead vote for this policy. If you have any more questions feel free to pose them. I do thank you for your time.


Could the IMA disallow any type of military shipments? My fear is that in case of an attack my enemies use IMA to ship weapons and troops to my coasts and under the protection that IMA has I can't touch IMA ships. How can this be prevented? It would be a major security problem.

Smoya wrote:I have too little knowledge on the IMA, so I had to abstain.


VOTE COUNT FOR APPROVAL OF THE IMA NEUTRAL FERRY POLICY (http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=268519&p=19985757#p19985531)

YAY: 4
NAY: 2
ABSTAIN: 4


Giliberafta wrote:Formal Country Name: The Federal Parliamentary Republic of Giliberafta
Capital: Grand City
Population: 128 million
Head of State: Prime Minister Randy Moss
Head of Government: see above
Form of Government: Federal Parliamentary Constitutional Republic
Economic System: Mixed Economy(leaning towards socialism, but not by to much)
Military Size (active): 30,500
Reason for Joining IFA: To spread and promote democracy, personal freedom, and political freedom; to ally with nations with similar views
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right): Currently, it's Far-Left, culturally
Is your Government by the people (exercised either directly or through elected representatives)? All elections are done by the popular vote. They may also request referendums for anything they would disagree with(an appointed bureaucrat, a new law, etc.)
Delegate to the IFA: Deputy Minister Franklin Ortiz


Please clarify on the 'far-left' political atmosphere in your country.
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Giliberafta
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Postby Giliberafta » Fri May 09, 2014 8:22 pm

We are very liberal. Most of the nation supports gay marriage, universal health care, and social refrom.

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Postby Demporia » Fri May 09, 2014 8:26 pm

"Could the IMA disallow any type of military shipments? My fear is that in case of an attack my enemies use IMA to ship weapons and troops to my coasts and under the protection that IMA has I can't touch IMA ships. How can this be prevented? It would be a major security problem."

Actually, this is what I had in mind all along. The IMA's main concern is hardly militaristic, and while Arms Trade is a large boon to economics. It doesn't exactly need to be supported by a Neutral Ferry Policy.

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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Fri May 09, 2014 8:26 pm

Dear IFA members,

The IMA Policy has not passed yet. We are still in the phase of debating. As Executive President, I will only sign the IMA policy into force given a clear consensus in the IFA community for its passage.

Thank You,

Simon Gurgenev, Executive President of the IFA (representing Republic of Bratislav)
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Postby Bratislav » Fri May 09, 2014 8:29 pm

Giliberafta wrote:We are very liberal. Most of the nation supports gay marriage, universal health care, and social refrom.


I see, that is fine, my final question is are your part of any other military alliances?

Demporia wrote:"Could the IMA disallow any type of military shipments? My fear is that in case of an attack my enemies use IMA to ship weapons and troops to my coasts and under the protection that IMA has I can't touch IMA ships. How can this be prevented? It would be a major security problem."

Actually, this is what I had in mind all along. The IMA's main concern is hardly militaristic, and while Arms Trade is a large boon to economics. It doesn't exactly need to be supported by a Neutral Ferry Policy.


I think it would be good to have a strict clause against any form of military aid, supplies, weapons, or troops, to be carried by such ferrier, and of course, countries have the absolute right to inspect any shipment that comes to their shores and reject or detain any shipment that is illegal or deemed a threat.
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Postby Confederate States of Hawaii » Fri May 09, 2014 8:29 pm

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Demporia
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Postby Demporia » Fri May 09, 2014 8:32 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Giliberafta wrote:We are very liberal. Most of the nation supports gay marriage, universal health care, and social refrom.


I see, that is fine, my final question is are your part of any other military alliances?

Demporia wrote:"Could the IMA disallow any type of military shipments? My fear is that in case of an attack my enemies use IMA to ship weapons and troops to my coasts and under the protection that IMA has I can't touch IMA ships. How can this be prevented? It would be a major security problem."

Actually, this is what I had in mind all along. The IMA's main concern is hardly militaristic, and while Arms Trade is a large boon to economics. It doesn't exactly need to be supported by a Neutral Ferry Policy.


I think it would be good to have a strict clause against any form of military aid, supplies, weapons, or troops, to be carried by such ferrier, and of course, countries have the absolute right to inspect any shipment that comes to their shores and reject or detain any shipment that is illegal or deemed a threat.



Obviously this was never intended to be used for anything the government of recipient countries did not support. I think these clauses should be added, along with a clause strictly and plainly prohibiting bringing any good deemed "illegal" by a nation into said nation's waters without prior government approval.

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Postby Giliberafta » Fri May 09, 2014 8:33 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Giliberafta wrote:We are very liberal. Most of the nation supports gay marriage, universal health care, and social refrom.


I see, that is fine, my final question is are your part of any other military alliances?

Demporia wrote:"Could the IMA disallow any type of military shipments? My fear is that in case of an attack my enemies use IMA to ship weapons and troops to my coasts and under the protection that IMA has I can't touch IMA ships. How can this be prevented? It would be a major security problem."

Actually, this is what I had in mind all along. The IMA's main concern is hardly militaristic, and while Arms Trade is a large boon to economics. It doesn't exactly need to be supported by a Neutral Ferry Policy.


I think it would be good to have a strict clause against any form of military aid, supplies, weapons, or troops, to be carried by such ferrier, and of course, countries have the absolute right to inspect any shipment that comes to their shores and reject or detain any shipment that is illegal or deemed a threat.


Yes i am but I am considering to withdraw because the alliances seem to be in active. I am a member of the Welch Pact and Parcus Belleum Alliance.

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Demporia
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Postby Demporia » Fri May 09, 2014 8:42 pm

Proposal of IMA Neutral Ferry Policy


Greetings,

This message has already been ran by the founder Bratislav, and he was in favor of it. However, as is the nature of the IFA. I must now post this proposal here for all to see, and offer their input/approval. More specifically, I'm writing this to purpose an agreement between the IFA and the IMA. The IMA was formed with the vision of creating an organization that extends beyond political parties, borders, and even war-time. Basically this very same deal has/will also be offered to the STO and other organizations. And hopefully if all parties agree, it will insure that IMA shipping even in war-time will not be hindered. And that IFA members shall open their ports to the IMA at all times, within reason. In return all STO members and IFA members will be able to utilize IMA vessels, for a small fee of course. As is to be expected, the IMA will remain entirely neutral, offering priority to neither the IFA, STO, or any other organization. Nor making public the contents of any shipments outside the respective parties of those who contracted us.

The main benefit here for both you and us, is that the IMA will expect certain privileges to be extended to our vessels. More specifically, all IMA ships whether they carry IFA, STO, or even the cargo of an unaligned nation. Shall not be attacked nor will they be hindered in any way when it comes to reaching their destination with the cargo intact. Or even on the return trip. Finally, if any nation within your own organization breaks these terms, we will expect you to take action against them. Or, if a nation not aligned with you attacks one of our vessels, we do expect you to condemn them, whether this involves military force or a public shaming. Essentially, we hope to force compliance with the neutrality of the IMA even among non-allied nations, by accumulating a strong backing which will condemn any actions against us, and by extension you.


Outline


-Offers a neutral, cheap, and safe shipping option to all even during wartime.

-Shipping will not be effected by struggles, foreign or domestic.

-A streamlined system, available to all.

-You agree to condemn any action against IMA shipping.

-You agree not to infringe upon this agreement.

-You agree to recognize the IMA as a separate, neutral body. And judge it by it's official actions. And not the actions of it's members.

-You agree to take no legal or militaristic action against us.

Clauses:


-No supplies intended as military aid may be shipped via this clause on an IMA vessel, otherwise the neutrality of said vessel is discarded for the duration of it's hauling of said cargo. And it is not considered IMA.

-No troops of any nation may be shipped via this clause on an IMA vessel, otherwise the neutrality of said vessel is discarded for the duration of it's hauling of said cargo. And it is not considered IMA.

-No WOMD may be shipped via IMA vessels period.

-No substances deemed illegal by a recipient nation may enter into said nation's waters on and IMA vessel, without prior documented approval.

-An IMA vessel may be refused access to a nation's port, but may not be denied access to it's waters if said vessel must cross said waters to enter into a recipient nation. Claus number four is deemed null and void in a case where a substance is illegal in the nation that an IMA vessel is crossing through, however said item or substance may not leave the vessel. Or the ship is subject to detainment by the nation's respective authorities.

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Bratislav
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Postby Bratislav » Fri May 09, 2014 8:42 pm

Demporia wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
I see, that is fine, my final question is are your part of any other military alliances?



I think it would be good to have a strict clause against any form of military aid, supplies, weapons, or troops, to be carried by such ferrier, and of course, countries have the absolute right to inspect any shipment that comes to their shores and reject or detain any shipment that is illegal or deemed a threat.



Obviously this was never intended to be used for anything the government of recipient countries did not support. I think these clauses should be added, along with a clause strictly and plainly prohibiting bringing any good deemed "illegal" by a nation into said nation's waters without prior government approval.


This would be better and maybe will reverse the mixed response that IFA members have towards adopting this policy.




Giliberafta wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
I see, that is fine, my final question is are your part of any other military alliances?



I think it would be good to have a strict clause against any form of military aid, supplies, weapons, or troops, to be carried by such ferrier, and of course, countries have the absolute right to inspect any shipment that comes to their shores and reject or detain any shipment that is illegal or deemed a threat.


Yes i am but I am considering to withdraw because the alliances seem to be in active. I am a member of the Welch Pact and Parcus Belleum Alliance.


Understood, welcome to the IFA!
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Demporia
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Postby Demporia » Fri May 09, 2014 8:43 pm

Demporia wrote:Proposal of IMA Neutral Ferry Policy


Greetings,

This message has already been ran by the founder Bratislav, and he was in favor of it. However, as is the nature of the IFA. I must now post this proposal here for all to see, and offer their input/approval. More specifically, I'm writing this to purpose an agreement between the IFA and the IMA. The IMA was formed with the vision of creating an organization that extends beyond political parties, borders, and even war-time. Basically this very same deal has/will also be offered to the STO and other organizations. And hopefully if all parties agree, it will insure that IMA shipping even in war-time will not be hindered. And that IFA members shall open their ports to the IMA at all times, within reason. In return all STO members and IFA members will be able to utilize IMA vessels, for a small fee of course. As is to be expected, the IMA will remain entirely neutral, offering priority to neither the IFA, STO, or any other organization. Nor making public the contents of any shipments outside the respective parties of those who contracted us.

The main benefit here for both you and us, is that the IMA will expect certain privileges to be extended to our vessels. More specifically, all IMA ships whether they carry IFA, STO, or even the cargo of an unaligned nation. Shall not be attacked nor will they be hindered in any way when it comes to reaching their destination with the cargo intact. Or even on the return trip. Finally, if any nation within your own organization breaks these terms, we will expect you to take action against them. Or, if a nation not aligned with you attacks one of our vessels, we do expect you to condemn them, whether this involves military force or a public shaming. Essentially, we hope to force compliance with the neutrality of the IMA even among non-allied nations, by accumulating a strong backing which will condemn any actions against us, and by extension you.


Outline


-Offers a neutral, cheap, and safe shipping option to all even during wartime.

-Shipping will not be effected by struggles, foreign or domestic.

-A streamlined system, available to all.

-You agree to condemn any action against IMA shipping.

-You agree not to infringe upon this agreement.

-You agree to recognize the IMA as a separate, neutral body. And judge it by it's official actions. And not the actions of it's members.

-You agree to take no legal or militaristic action against us.

Clauses:


-No supplies intended as military aid may be shipped via this clause on an IMA vessel, otherwise the neutrality of said vessel is discarded for the duration of it's hauling of said cargo. And it is not considered IMA.

-No troops of any nation may be shipped via this clause on an IMA vessel, otherwise the neutrality of said vessel is discarded for the duration of it's hauling of said cargo. And it is not considered IMA.

-No WOMD may be shipped via IMA vessels period.

-No substances deemed illegal by a recipient nation may enter into said nation's waters on and IMA vessel, without prior documented approval.

-An IMA vessel may be refused access to a nation's port, but may not be denied access to it's waters if said vessel must cross said waters to enter into a recipient nation. Claus number four is deemed null and void in a case where a substance is illegal in the nation that an IMA vessel is crossing through, however said item or substance may not leave the vessel. Or the ship is subject to detainment by the nation's respective authorities.


Edited to conform to negotiations.

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Postby Luepola » Fri May 09, 2014 8:44 pm

Bratislav wrote:
Luepola wrote:
Thank you!

I know I'm a new member, but what are the policies for military contribution? Is there a minimum or maximum as to how many troops I can allocate, and do I need to standardize armaments (we use locally-produced, indigenous arms and calibers)?


As of yet, there is no armament standardization. However, in the IFA Rapid Reaction Force there is standardization. You are free to allocate how many troops you want to the IFA RRF.


I'd like to allocate some APC-type vehicles (since the RRF has no land vehicles, barring North Israel's Merkavas), but I'd first like to know what standardization, if any, exists for weapons used by that category of vehicles.

The AFVs come in multiple variants, each with different weapons, but here's what's important. The AFV, across its various versions and variants, currently hosts a 30mm Chaingun, 7.5mm MMGs, 12mm HMGs, 20mm Autocannons, a 70mm automated mortar, 200mm VL-ATGMs, a 120mm smoothbore gun, 81mm Passive-Radar missiles, and a 25mm rotary cannon.

And, in case you're curious, I OOCly based them off the Polish BWP-2000.
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Postby Bratislav » Fri May 09, 2014 8:52 pm

Luepola wrote:
Bratislav wrote:
As of yet, there is no armament standardization. However, in the IFA Rapid Reaction Force there is standardization. You are free to allocate how many troops you want to the IFA RRF.


I'd like to allocate some APC-type vehicles (since the RRF has no land vehicles, barring North Israel's Merkavas), but I'd first like to know what standardization, if any, exists for weapons used by that category of vehicles.

The AFVs come in multiple variants, each with different weapons, but here's what's important. The AFV, across its various versions and variants, currently hosts a 30mm Chaingun, 7.5mm MMGs, 12mm HMGs, 20mm Autocannons, a 70mm automated mortar, 200mm VL-ATGMs, a 120mm smoothbore gun, 81mm Passive-Radar missiles, and a 25mm rotary cannon.

And, in case you're curious, I OOCly based them off the Polish BWP-2000.


There's no real standardization for APC vehicles, but Western APCs are preferred of course. We are welcome to receive the APC that you wish to allocate to the RRF.

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Economic System:Socialist Market System
Military Size (active):35 Million
Reason for Joining RTO:To spread Democracy to all nations who need it.
How do you describe the political atmosphere of your state? (Far-Left/Left/Center-Left/Center/Center-Right/Right/Far-Right):Center
Delegate to the RTO:Padar Yugurov


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