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Liberated Counties
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Postby Liberated Counties » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:05 pm

Phonencia wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:Regular Infantry

$2000 SAR-21 Assault Rifle
$700 IOTV
$300 SAPI Plates
$250 ACH Helmet
$50 Tactical Ascessories (eg flashlight)
$30 Boots
$20 Tinted ballistic glasses
$40 Camelbak
$40 Elbow & Kneepads
$80 Modular Pounches
$60 Battle Dress
$150 Combat Radio
$35 x7 Magazines
$55 x2 Frag Grenades
$20 2x Smoke Grenades

$3830

Well, I sure like to splash out. I'm going to edit this more or less.


$50 will buy you just that. A flashlight. ONE flashlight. If you want a red dot or ACOG? That's going to be upwards of $400.


Oh, By tactical accessories i mean flashlights, flares and other things, not weapon accessories
*Edit, I TG'ed you about it

And Prem, I never said that was training. this is simply how much it would cost to get one guy and kit him out.
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Postby Premislyd » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:15 pm

Liberated Counties wrote:I never said that was training. this is simply how much it would cost to get one guy and kit him out.


I know. I was referring how you're already 3830 down without even training him or paying him yet.
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Liberated Counties
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Postby Liberated Counties » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:18 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:I never said that was training. this is simply how much it would cost to get one guy and kit him out.


I know. I was referring how you're already 3830 down without even training him or paying him yet.


Heh, I don't even pay to train or pay them. Private Military Corporations do that part. My nation is excessively privatized.
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Phonencia
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Postby Phonencia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:51 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:Regular Infantry

$2000 SAR-21 Assault Rifle
$700 IOTV
$300 SAPI Plates
$250 ACH Helmet
$50 Tactical Ascessories (eg flashlight)
$30 Boots
$20 Tinted ballistic glasses
$40 Camelbak
$40 Elbow & Kneepads
$80 Modular Pounches
$60 Battle Dress
$150 Combat Radio
$35 x7 Magazines
$55 x2 Frag Grenades
$20 2x Smoke Grenades

$3830

Well, I sure like to splash out. I'm going to edit this more or less.


And that's not even going to paying them and their training?

lawl


What do your Riflemen use anyway Prem?
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Postby Premislyd » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:52 pm

Phonencia wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
And that's not even going to paying them and their training?

lawl


What do your Riflemen use anyway Prem?


What do you mean?
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Postby Erucia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:53 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Phonencia wrote:
What do your Riflemen use anyway Prem?


What do you mean?

As in equipment, so rifles, survival stuff, radio equipment, food, etc.
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Postby Premislyd » Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:58 pm

Erucia wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
What do you mean?

As in equipment, so rifles, survival stuff, radio equipment, food, etc.


Dunno, since it never really comes up in RPs, nor am I really OCD about it.
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Postby Phonencia » Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:56 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Erucia wrote:As in equipment, so rifles, survival stuff, radio equipment, food, etc.


Dunno, since it never really comes up in RPs, nor am I really OCD about it.


You prolly should. That kinda' thing can make a big difference in small scale infantry engagements. Like rather or not your handheld radios are encrypted or if everyone has a smoke grenade or flashlight. Any one of those things can give the enemy a HUGE advantage in certain scenarios.
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Postby Anacasppia » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:15 am

Premislyd wrote:
Erucia wrote:As in equipment, so rifles, survival stuff, radio equipment, food, etc.


Dunno, since it never really comes up in RPs, nor am I really OCD about it.


Hurr hurr its like how shit never jams or breaks down in combat huh? Whatever happened to Murphy? :lol:

Also, I've had the opportunity to put 24 rounds through a SAR-21 once, at a 100m range.

Scored 21/24 (12 supported and 12 unsupported), the built in 1.5x optic helped a lot there, though it would've been better if illumination was available.

The ergonomics were overall good particularly with regards to the handguard, though I can't speak for the position of the (automatic) fire selector since I was on semi-auto throughout. Still, located all the way back on the stock, I would imagine switching to automatic would not be very convenient nor speedy. Possibly a doctrinal-related choice, seeing as SAF is more Western in doctrine which translates to semi-auto being the firemode of choice for the rifleman, so perhaps the reasoning was to minimize the odds of a soldier 'going auto' and wasting ammunition in the heat and stress of battle.

So all in all, I'd say its pretty solid.
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Postby Phonencia » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:23 am

Anacasppia wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
Dunno, since it never really comes up in RPs, nor am I really OCD about it.


Hurr hurr its like how shit never jams or breaks down in combat huh? Whatever happened to Murphy? :lol:



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Postby Liberated Counties » Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:43 am

What missile defense systems would you recommend we use?

We need one thats short/medium range, and one long range system.
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Postby Phonencia » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:38 am

Liberated Counties wrote:What missile defense systems would you recommend we use?

We need one thats short/medium range, and one long range system.


*shrug* I guess the SeaRAM (RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile) and the MIM-104 Patriot or S-300?
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Postby Erucia » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:13 am

Liberated Counties wrote:What missile defense systems would you recommend we use?

We need one thats short/medium range, and one long range system.

Someone once whooped my ass in an invasion using the S-300 system I mean S-400 system (opps!). Couldn't even fly in my own controlled airspace, so my hat's off to that for a long-range system.
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Postby Arthurista » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:17 am

Liberated Counties wrote:What missile defense systems would you recommend we use?

We need one thats short/medium range, and one long range system.


If you're talking about SAMs, I suggest either the NASAMs, SPYDER (if you're NATO-inclined in terms of equipment) or SA-17 (if you like Russian gear) in the battalion-brigade-division level. At the corps level or above you may want either the S-400 (Russian) or a Patriot/THAAD combo (NATO).

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Postby Phonencia » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:19 am

Erucia wrote:
Liberated Counties wrote:What missile defense systems would you recommend we use?

We need one thats short/medium range, and one long range system.

Someone once whooped my ass in an invasion using the S-300 system. Couldn't even fly in my own controlled airspace, so my hat's off to that for a long-range system.


Yep. To be fair though, it's an unproven system IRL. For all we know it could suck ass. I doubt it does, but still. I wish we could see some actual use of the thing IRL.
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Postby Erucia » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:22 am

Phonencia wrote:Yep. To be fair though, it's an unproven system IRL. For all we know it could suck ass. I doubt it does, but still. I wish we could see some actual use of the thing IRL.

...Yeah, meant S-400 by accident. Although the guy I fought did GM a lot because he was using a ridiculously small force to battle these decently sized divisions, it did teach me a bit about dealing with AA.
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Postby Phonencia » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:27 am

shut up and come to my RP!
This is for that military exercise we mentioned earlier btw.
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Postby The IASM » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:25 am

I was wondering, would the ICE be interested in an small scale anti slavery mission with me?
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Postby Aleckandor » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:27 am

The IASM wrote:I was wondering, would the ICE be interested in an small scale anti slavery mission with me?


Question For Clarity: Are you the slave state OR are you against the slave state(s)?

I know that Titanicia is a hardcore (but very awesome) place, but I don't know the answer to the above question.
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The IASM
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Postby The IASM » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:36 am

Aleckandor wrote:
The IASM wrote:I was wondering, would the ICE be interested in an small scale anti slavery mission with me?


Question For Clarity: Are you the slave state OR are you against the slave state(s)?

I know that Titanicia is a hardcore (but very awesome) place, but I don't know the answer to the above question.

For and is a slaver state.
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Postby Arthurista » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:45 am

The IASM wrote:
Aleckandor wrote:
Question For Clarity: Are you the slave state OR are you against the slave state(s)?

I know that Titanicia is a hardcore (but very awesome) place, but I don't know the answer to the above question.

For and is a slaver state.


Considering how we handled IASM forces last time, I'm sure it won't be much trouble.

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Postby Aleckandor » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:49 am

Arthurista wrote:
The IASM wrote:For and is a slaver state.


Considering how we handled IASM forces last time, I'm sure it won't be much trouble.


I'd like to know how that went. Link please?
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Postby Afalia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:51 am

The IASM wrote:I was wondering, would the ICE be interested in an small scale anti slavery mission with me?


Any chance to get back at you is a great opportunity.

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Postby Afalia » Sun Jul 07, 2013 9:52 am

Aleckandor wrote:
I'd like to know how that went. Link please?


Here's my factbook on the matter

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Postby Aleckandor » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:08 am

Afalia wrote:
Aleckandor wrote:
I'd like to know how that went. Link please?


Here's my factbook on the matter


Impressive. Oh, and on the subject of the anti-slavery mission, I'll be down. My country hasn't fought any major slaver powers since its Founding, when the Maeflowuhran Thralls & Exiles led by a 15-year old completely and brutally overthrew the LEC in their own homeland through violent democratic rebellion.
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