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AMW (A Modern World) Applications Centre

Postby Dra-pol » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:40 am

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Welcome to the world of... today!

WHAT IS THIS THREAD?

Applications thread for AMW.

Post here if you already understand what AMW is, and want to propose your nation's involvement.

If you have questions about AMW, if you're not sure quite what you want to do with your claim or just wonder how your nation might fit into the existing community, or if you just want to expand on your basic application and get us all interested, then you should go to The AMW Discussion Thread and get posting there!

WHAT IS AMW?

A Modern World (AMW) is a Role Playing community within Nationstates.

It has existed since pre-Jolt days, and plans to stick around for years to come.

We use real-world geography and populations as bases for our NS countries.

We want people to come and play creative accounts with us and mean it... we don't view the community as just another alternate history group to be played for a month and then moved on from. Some of us have been here for years.

As an easy example, Dra-pol covers much of the Korean peninsula and as such has Korean dimensions, natural resources, weather, and population size, but it is Dra-pol, not Korea.

You'll find that some real-world cultures are represented here, and some real-world history has mirrors in ours, but that's pretty near always the way with Modern Tech RPs in which humans are the only sentient characters.

Well, we thank you for your interest, and now the rule-ish bit...

THINGS TO KNOW

Of course the usual NS rules of conduct apply as ever, but those particular parameters that define AMW are as follows:

Geography: AMW uses the real world as a geographic template. Claims are placed on real territory and adopt the approximate dimensions, natural resources and hazards, as well as the general climate of the territory they cover.

Population: Populations for each claim are based on the real-world population of the territory they cover, regardless of how many people your nation's homepage says you have today. Simply for argument's sake we use the CIA factbook as a reference when whole national entities are consumed by a claim, though other sources must be found when claims cover less than the complete territory of a real nation or other listed entity (as if your nation, New Cornwall, should cover only Florida, or the West Indus Republic both Pakistani and Iranian Balochistan).

Economy: This is not based upon the territory consumed by a claim, but is free-form within reason. We can't all be superpowers. This doesn't mean that the old-guard players have all taken the positions of leading powers and now seek whipping boys: at time of writing Dra-pol is the oldest active member and has an economy smaller in per-capita terms than that of RL Uzbekistan, and the biggest economies at present aren't worth half that of RL USA's.

Technology: As the name suggests, this is modern tech. If you want to use a technology, and there isn't already a direct equivalent in production and active use today (or in the past) in the real world, it's usually not right for AMW. Earlier in AMW we had variable throttle hyper agile air-to-air missiles because humanity knows how to make them and is working on it right now, but then there were arguments about whether that made electro-thermal chemical guns allowable, and so on and so forth. This ruling keeps things from snowballing and putting-off those of us without time of inclination to spend hours on end reading technology journals et cetera when we'd rather be RPing. You can still design your own weapons, and some of us do, they just have to be confined by the bounds of modern in-service technologies.

Claiming!!!: We ask that players wishing to join AMW either share with us some links to examples of their past Role-Playing experience, or accept that we'll want a more detailed introduction to their nation and perhaps a sample of what they'll be RPing with it. Thanks!

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AMW Region
Join if you like, but it's not a requirement for RP. We chat informally on the regional HQ, but important stuff will be shared by telegram and/or on these forums.

AMW Off-Site Forum
Again, a good place to be a regular, but AMW is primarily an in-game NS roleplaying thang, so don't be put off by thinking you need to sign up to another messageboard. However, many players base or back-up factbook threads here, raise RP ideas for consideration, chat nonsense, it's all good.

AMW Discussion Thread
Anything and everything AMW related. Discussion of applications, a place to pose general or particular questions that don't seem to fit anywhere else, somewhere to say hi or let us know if you're going to busy for a while, whatever!

Active RPs

Africa-
All Rhodes lead to Salisbury
Where They Make a Wasteland, They Call it Peace

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Asia-
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Europe-
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Postby Dra-pol » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:41 am

A Modern World as it stands

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Incomplete map not 100% authoritative.

Notes
Stuff be out of date. No time now.

MEMBERS
With Factbook Links
And real-world geographic reference

Saxemberg
The Principality of Saxemberg
New Caledonia

Dra-pol
The Choist People's Republic of Dra-pol
Most of Korea

Spyr
The People's Republic of Spyr
Northeastern China, Southern Pacific-Russia

The Holy Empire of Yashima
Japanese islands of Ryukyu, Kyushu, Shikoku, Awaji; part of Korea

The RSU
The Shogunate of Joesen
Guangxi, Guangdong, Fujian, Zhejiang, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Macau

The Crooked Beat
Democratic Republic of Parsistan
Iran less Sistan and Baluchistan, Socotra (in Yemen), Garabogaz (in Turkmenistan)

Spizania
[url]India (factbook pending)[/url]
India

Kagetora
Arabian Oil
Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar

Jatriqya and Hoya
The Byzantine Empire
Turkey less Eastern Thrace, Ağrı, Iğdır, Artvin, Ardahan, Kars and Rize; Syria less Quneitra, Daraa, As-Suwayda governates and Duma district; most of Iraq, Lebanon

Beth Gellert
The Igovian Soviet Commonwealth of Tamil Eelam
Northern Sri Lanka

Beddgelert
The Beddgelert Democratic Republic
Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, Albania, (Eastern Thrace?); Moldova disputed with Kievskaya Rus

Unified Tord
[url]Kingdom of Tord (factbook pending)[/url]
Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg

Vecron
Roman Empire
Italy, France, Spain, Greece

Cassanos
Cassanos / Germany
Poland, Germany

Kievskaya Rus
Kieven Rus'
Most of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus; Moldova disputed with Beddgelert

Somewhereistonia
The Baltic Federation
Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania

The United Taifas
The United Taifas of Al'Andalus
Portugal

Gurguvungunit
The United Kingdom of Britain and Empire
UK, Ireland, Egypt, Sudan, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore

Deltuva
The Kingdom of Axum
Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti, Somalia

San Cristofore
[url]San Cristofore (factbook pending)[/url]
Tunisia

Marimaia
Great Rhodesia
South Africa, Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Malawi, Zambia

Tiurabo
The Independent Dominion of Tiurabo
Texas

Wesleyopia
The Commonwealth of Wesleyopia
Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware

Iansisle
The Republic of California
Southern California, Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Nevada, Colorado, and Utah

Nova Gaul
El Reino de Nueva España
Mexico, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Panama Canal Zone

Tahuantinsuyu Empire
Tawantinsuyu
Peru; Ecuador; Pando, La Paz, Oruro, and Potosi in Bolivia; Arica, Iquique, and Antofagasta in Chile; Narino in Colombia; Acre in Brazil.

A Rightist Puppet
The Confederated Royal Charters of Brazil
Most of Northeast, Southeast, Amapa regions of Brazil
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Postby Dra-pol » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:42 am

Saved incase I've missed something.

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Postby Nova Gaul » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:11 pm

*bump*

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Postby Gurguvungunit » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:28 pm

We really need a map that includes East Asia.

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Tiurabo
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Postby Tiurabo » Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:42 pm

I'm still interested, even though I let it go the first time because I had enough on my plate way-back-then. Not real sure what you want in the application, so I'll just let you know what it is I want. Also, I use RL examples of people and such that may not be correct, so just add the stipulation 'like peoples' if it's a problem.

My idea is a country which covers a small portion of the RL Southern United States, namely Texas and parts of nearby states. This would be a very small country, nothing showy, settled mainly by displaced Scots and Scandinavians. However, given the area, it would probably be very well off and may have an emnity with New Spain, if I am correct in seeing that he owns Mexico. Other points that are ideal but workable:

Most people practice the Asatru faith, though there are some other denominations.
Society is what you might call militaristic, with most people in the Guard at least, if not in the active military.
People are highly independent, and the country has more smallholdings and private farms or ranches than most.
Except for key cities such as the nation's and local capitols, it is highly rural, with most businesses preferring pro-environmental policies.

After that, it pretty much falls to you to ask any questions I haven't answered, so ask away.

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Postby Nova Gaul » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:14 pm

Heya---is this Britain in disguise? Or Beth Gellert? :ugeek:

The idea sounds fine, but it does fill in a lot of the U.S., offhandedly I think California or Florida might work out better (those states also seem to fit your claim better than Texas), but of course it is up to you. And we need not have enmity!

Basically though to me at least it sounds interesting. What would the prospective history be of your country, and what of its politics? Did you want Texas, Texas and Louisiana, what exactly would the refined claim be? And before I go on, and before we cut up the U.S., may I also suggest Canada* as a fit for your claim.

EDIT: Canada, or parts of Canada.
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Postby Beddgelert » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:49 pm

Hehe, stop being such a coward, Frenchy! What's wrong with a rancher society in Texas?

Anyway, Tiurabo, good to have your interest. I'm afraid my memory's shot full of vodka, so I don't remember your last expression of interest off-hand, but we are suddenly in need of good players in the vastness of the New World. Off hand I'd say that at the moment we haven't any Scandinavians per se, but you could certainly have Scots, and for now nondescript 'northern Europeans' or something like that.

I wouldn't call the claim 'tiny', as Texas alone covers significantly more than three times the area of Great Britain and has something like twenty-four million residents, but that's beside the point, I suppose. It's perfectly reasonable.

Do you have any thoughts about the economic condition? I assume since you have all the smallholdings it's probably a capitalist market economy?
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Postby Tiurabo » Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:51 pm

I am not a puppet, and I am curious as to why you ask.

No, having Texas is sort of the point. I'm from Texas, and I endeavor to claim it whenever possible, since it makes it easier for me to mess with it, for some strange and bizarre reason. I won't say that it's mandatory for me to have it, but it certainly is preferable by me. I would like to know why you say those places would be better for my claim, though, since you might be right, or at least have more logical reasoning for such a claim.

As to the refined claim, that depends on what the rest of AMW sees as reasonable. I'd like to just have Texas, but I thought that might be too small. I don't want the whole South, just a small pocket of it, which may or may not follow state lines, depending on what is permissible. if claims need to follow state lines, I'll figure it out from there. If you don't want me claiming individual states, but instead the entire things, we may have problems, because I honestly don't want that much space to have to mess with. Give me a small area and I'll do fine, give me a big one and I'll freak out and drop, or something similarly unhelpful.

Politics I'm unsure of. Possible a Republic where landowners are the voters, and they elect representatives in a parliament or congress. On the other hand, my regular NS nation of Tiurabo is a Military Dictatorship where you have to be a senior officer in the military to have any political say, and most of the civilians really don't care much because the government is sensible and for their interest almost all the time. I think I'm more likely to go with the latter, though it may or may not be the same as my NS nation.


For Beth Gellert, the Scandinavian influence would mainly serve to give a wider genetic base and also to add the religious influence. It would mainly be of Scottish and, as you said, various North European people, and many of them have married with other races. Economy would be very capitalist, with a very free market, and no enormous corporations or all-encompassing government to interrupt family claims on hereditary lands. The land system is in some ways similar to feudal baronies, with a single person being held as the owner over whatever land there was, and responsible for maintaining and profiting from his lands. Competition for land can be fierce, and inter-ranch contests with holdings or material as stakes are respected and unseatable traditions.


Other questions?
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Postby Nova Gaul » Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:15 pm

I am not a coward! And I only surrendered France...to the Italians...

Oh no offence meant Tiurabo, it was a inside joke aimed for myself Gurg and BG. At any rate:

I agree with BG...Texas is not a small claim, but as I read your post above I think it is a good one for you. I mentioned California and Florida just because they seemed a bit more progressive (to fit with Asatru that is) but no matter, as I read the emphasis on ranching Texas would surely be to place to pick. And the only reason we mentioned Swedes is that we do not have an AMW Sweden--as yet--but we do have an AMW Great Britain, hence you might be able to couple your history (settlement or independance) to him.

Overall I think it is a good claim, size and economy and population are right. So, now we just need to see what AMW thinks. If I could put in my two cents I would say research our world (off-site boards and on-site threads) and come up with a post to introduce your nation to AMW based on those sources.

Looks good.

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Postby Beth Gellert » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:20 pm

Reads pretty well to me, Tiurabo.

You can, in theory, draw your borders wherever you like. For simplicity's sake I'd be use state lines or other real-life administrative divisions just because it makes it easier to find out the population (and area, natural resources etc) of your claim. If you just want to claim Texas, I think that's perfectly reasonable. It'd give you just under 700,000 sq.km of land and just over 24million people, I think, which makes it marginally bigger than Burma with a population between that of Ghana and Malaysia. A viable country that should be able to make its voice heard on the world stage, but not a superpower.

I'm inclined to support your claim.

The only other questions, I suppose, would be history-based. Any thoughts on when Europeans arrived, or what was going on before? Such things can probably be worked out with other players as you go along, so I'm just wondering if you have any particular thoughts at the start.

(Oh, sorry, seem to have changed accounts again... Beddgelert and Beth Gellert are the same thing, nothing to see here!)
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Postby Tiurabo » Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:45 pm

I haven't really put a whole lot of thought into it, and mostly it depends on other histories. For instance, if the guy who runs Britain never colonized America in his history, then there were no thirteen colonies. If Spain hadn't colonized Mexico, a lot of the Tiuraboans who come from the South wouldn't have been there. So, is it suspension of belief, or is there a recognized history to it?

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Postby Cassanos » Fri Sep 25, 2009 9:20 am

The whole of North America is unclaimed as of now, therefore, there is no history per se, because NPC nations don't exist for RPing purposes. This is to avoid future conflicts. What if, say, we have the regular history of the thirteen colonies, and then someone comes along and claims Maine, Rhode Island and New Hampshire for a people of southwest Kenyan basket weavers?

So I think it would be a good idea if you make up some history for your claim, maybe Scots sailed the Atlantic to get away from those nasty famines and/or English and wound up where you are now?

Anyway, I like this claim, it is located in the Americas, it is reasonable and original.
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Postby Nova Gaul » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:07 pm

Agreed!

Tiurabo---I suggest you do an introduction post introducing us to your new state. I think you are good to go.

Also, maybe put a factbook on the offsite forum?

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Postby Gurguvungunit » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:34 pm

Well, while it doesn't matter at this point, I'm inclined to support your claim. If you like, we can work something simple out whereby a group of Scots left the British Isles during a convenient point in my history (any number of highland revolts, for example, or even earlier depending on how much history you want).

Anyhow, I'm curious to see how this all goes.

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Postby Tiurabo » Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:39 pm

I was thinking about the historical event known to at least one source as the Clearing, when the english kicked tons of highlanders out of scotland to make room for the herds. Which is where my family comes from, which is why this stuff pops up in my mind and sounds good to me.

Anyway, I'll see what I can do about getting post and factbook up.

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Postby Beth Gellert » Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:14 pm

I'd say having your nation rise in the wake of the clearances seems reasonable enough, but potentially offensive and blatantly misleading statements to the effect that, 'the English did it' should probably be left in-character if such propaganda is still in circulation in your proposed nation. Granted, Gurg's history of the period may be different for all I know, but if it follows reality then the crime was a capitalist one, not a perculiarly English one. Privatisation of common land had already proceeded similarly in England, and was going on in the Lowlands, too, and in the Highlands often as not it was Scottish landlords and even Clan chiefs who were responsible for driving people out, either violently -sometimes, and not always, employing English managers and such experienced in doing the same thing to the English working class- or as a consequence of increasing rents et cetera.

Anyway, sorry, bit of a tangent. Being me I just don't like over-simplification when it's used as if to mask infamous crimes of privatisation and capitalist exploitation. Even if that's not what you meant to do, it was still a fire on which I had to pee.

Well, in any case, -hopefully- welcome to AMW!
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Postby Tiurabo » Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:43 pm

I wasn't entirely aware of that, though I did know it wasn't entirely the English. Still, that would almost certainly be the position of the locals, but not exactly something they worry about. Kind of like the RL English-American 'haha, we beat you three hundred years ago' situation. Something everyone knows at least a little about, but not terribly important to modern society past it's historial implications.

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Postby Somewhereistonia » Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:30 pm

Tiurabo wrote:I wasn't entirely aware of that, though I did know it wasn't entirely the English. Still, that would almost certainly be the position of the locals, but not exactly something they worry about. Kind of like the RL English-American 'haha, we beat you three hundred years ago' situation. Something everyone knows at least a little about, but not terribly important to modern society past it's historial implications.


If you wish you could also be home to a large number of migrants/refugees from the Baltic from around the period of the two world wars (when the Baltic states were free from Kiev). There are a number of people from this movement in modern USA so it is not unprecedented, you could have a larger number than in real life if you wish to add some non-scots "northern Europeans". This might also give your nation a more established anti-Kievan side if the demographic group is large enough.

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Postby Nova Gaul » Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:42 pm

*bump*

Come one, come all---step right up ladies and gentlemen!

Plenty of room left here in AMW, the more the merrier!

Stop on by an' RP a spell.
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Belgium/Netherlands/Luxemburg application

Postby Unified Tord » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:17 pm

Hello!

I'd like to play in the unclaimed region of Belgium/Netherlands/Luxembourg.

I'd play a Liberal leaning Kingdom with a charismatic left-leaning King who'd push for ties to alike Liberal neighbouring Nations (Britain), while nobles of a conservative mindset would try to solidify their own power while pursuing ties with like minded conservative neighbours (Kieven/Roman nobles).

It'd be a tricky balance, The King and people pursuing a more leftist Nation but not TOO leftist that it'd completely erode tradition and faith. While the conservative nobles would struggle for more power in a state alike Kiev or New Spain.

Economically The Benelux area I want would have to import all its raw materials, the Nobles trading with people like Kiev and the Liberals trading with Britain.

The Kingdom'd have a Unique pseudo Catholic Church (The Church of Tord) that would have different practices/teachings depending on its location ranging from liberal to conservative within the Kingdom but still consider itself a whole church. Yet separate from its Neighbours' Christendom. Similar to what the Anglican church has going on. It would have its own practices however, taking a lot from ancient/local folk practices and shaping that into church ritual, while developing newer rituals/traditions of its own, like unique Saint worship, veneration of icons, ritualistic dance and various other funky Christian rituals (communion in the form of a banquet, portions of the Church that accept/include homosexuality, marriage of priests, leadership of women).

Historically there'd be a bit of guilt/180-ing from the Nazi era when a prince of the royal family performed a coup to install a regime that supported Nazism. So with Tord's lines crumbling after the Allies invasion and general shame over being on the wrong side during WWII, the modern Tord King and populace are very liberal minded.

Population: 27 million

Aruba: 103,065
Belgium: 10,414,336
Luxembourg: 491,775
Netherlands: 16,715,999
Netherlands Antilles: 227,049

Total: 27,952,224

economy: same as Belgium except only $20,000 per capita to represent a more agrarian population due to its feudal traditions

Religion: Church of Tord 75%, other (includes Protestant) 25%

I'd also like to claim Aruba and the Netherlands Antilles, as those would've been colonies Tord would've nabbed up to look like a big kid in the 1800's when all the other big powers were collecting colonies.

I played NationStates a few years ago as the same Kingdom, the Kingdom of Tord. At the time I played in the Lyong Penninsula with Spyr as my neighbour. It was awesome fun. I stopped playing after starting University and having Tord annexed into Spyr. But I'd played for years up until that point, my interest has be re-kindled and I'm eager for many more years+ of Nationstates roleplay. Heck I had my neopets account for years and years, couldn't stand the thought of the thing dying...
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Postby Nova Gaul » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:33 pm

My God Tord it is fantastic to see you once again!

I heartily second your claim in its entirety. I am also very happy about your Caribbean Islands claim (maybe founded before 1808 to create consistency with New Spain's history?) as it will give a chance for us to build a history between New Spain and Tord…maybe colonial allies against the British etc, or maybe you and Britain were aligned against me…but we all had sugar plantations!

I daresay you will be approved by all easily enough being an old AMW-hand. And it would be nice to see some more activity in Europe. Its great to see you again--welcome back! :clap:
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Postby Spyr » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:46 pm

At last, they begin to return, though our little peninsula has vanished into the Sea of Japan!

As you might expect, I'll voice my full support for bringing an old friend into the AMW fold. I often look back fondly on some of our long-past roleplays (the nostalgia makes me feel ancient... most of it happened in the old old forum, before the travesty of Jolt). Tord will certainly bring a bit of soulful character RP with him, perhaps this time out of the shadow of Spyr's soul-crushing bureaucracy.

The proposal seems good, filling one more corner of Europe (the Nazis would finally have a way around the Maginot line!) without being overly large. But I'm on the other side of the world, really... hopefully your would-be neighbours (the Germans, British, and Romans) will agree!

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Postby Beth Gellert » Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:50 pm

Ooh. Well, I don't think I saw much of your RP before you left, but on the assumption that, well, you're no noob, I'm all for this proposal.

Seems like AMW's Church is a hectic affair. Rome's more powerful with its empire, and there are more theocratic Christian states, but few of them seem to agree on the basics. Presumably the fact that there's still a large, vocal pagan country in Europe keeps the Pope from worrying too much about Tordian unorthodoxy.

I wouldn't normally respond with such a specific question, but I just happen to be in the midst of writing a proposed history for AMW's First World War equivalent, so I'll have to ask. At the moment Germany would have to attack France where France expects it, and probably lose horribly in a matter of months, because Belgium and Luxembourg as NPCs were off-limits... would you mind if the Germans forced a way through Tord in 1914, or if Tord allowed them passage, or even joined the Central Powers?
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Hello and Tordian Nazism

Postby Unified Tord » Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:05 pm

Thanks muchly for the warm welcome! It's great to be back, looking forward to diving into the realm of political intrigue and sabre rattling (and drawing).

About Tord in the World Wars;

Tord would've put up a paltry resistance to Germany in The first Great War (and the cooler of the two wars, if you ask me). General consensus in Tord is that there wasn't much of a general consensus. The King would have officially made Tord's stance against Germany's aggressive neighbour-eating ways. But after a quick defeat and surrender wouldn't have played much of a role except as a somewhat unwilling invasion mat.

Then in WW2 The consensus in Tord is that there still wasn't one, but sides were more divided between those who supported the Allies and Axis. Wanting to be on the side of the big dangerous neighbour and disliking the results from Tord's side in WWI however won out when a Nazi supporting Tordian Prince led a coup to place Tord solidly on the Nazi side. Leading to a spectacular sense of shame and defeat for picking what everyone agreed was the wrong side after the dust settled, as well as some very dramatic war criminal trials, among them members of the Tordian Royal family facing off against each other in court.

And Tord founding its colonies in the 1700s sounds good to me to go along with your history, Nova Gaul.
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