by Alfegos » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:42 am
by Mokastana » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:49 pm
by Zaheran » Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:15 am
by Alfegos » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:31 pm
by Mokastana » Sat Sep 12, 2009 1:07 pm
by Katonazag » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:20 pm
by Alfegos » Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:26 am
by Zaheran » Sun Sep 20, 2009 1:16 pm
by Katonazag » Mon Sep 21, 2009 5:46 pm
by The State of Monavia » Fri Sep 25, 2009 8:45 pm
But the Zaheran delegate has brought up an excellent point that we were to discuss. Depending on the size of the active core of the FURRF, which has yet to be decided on, we will at some point need to purchase or donate equipment. Currently, I believe that lyran armaments have been decided upon as the standard across the FURRF, with local arms supplementing the different garrisons - the current Operation Goshawk is using readily available arms from the Alfegan Overseas Territory of Neo'los, whilst I know that the Union Deployment Base and Garrison on the Oraz Joint Territory uses Zaheran armaments to supplement its stocks. Apart from the large purchase made of lyran armaments, in terms of IFVs and APCs, the only other equipment used by the Union are donated obsolescent equipment from Alfegos and a few other nations - for example, decommissioned transport airships seized from pirates have been donated to the Union, a few old C-130s and the odd other piece of equipment, including a few surface vessels. However, for the most part, the Union is currently relying on local logistical support from militaries - borrowing space aboard local air force flights, for example.
If anyone has any opinion on what should be done, I believe that we should focus armaments to having the FURRF as its name suggests - a Rapid Reaction Force - the emphasis should be on mechanisation of infantry, and on lighter armour and mobile artillery. Thus, the air arm will be an invaluable asset, as will the ocean arm. In that regards, we believe that the focus should be on lighter ships, steering clear of battleships and most submarines, to focus on lighter and faster vessels. Indeed, if air support can be provided as needed, we may be using lighter combat carriers as the main arm of the fleet. Airships would be invaluable for filling the middle ground between mass-transport of sea vessels, and the fast transit speed of air units, of which discounted purchases can be made through our delegation.
This also begs the question of funding. I know that most Union nations here put funding into the Union as part of the government budget, and that funding is received as a result of Union ownership of certain amounts of land, donated for the purpose of military installations. However, for large purchases such as this, I doubt that an acceptable amount of money could be diverted from foreign budgets to pay for it. Thus, as an extra note, we will need to discuss loans, possibly from the Novan Monetary Reserve, and other assets that the Union can acquire to aid with funding, or at least reduce running costs.
"We agree with the Alfegan delegate that the focus of the FURFF should on light and mobile mechanised infantry, supplemented with lighter naval vessels and air units. Should a situation demanding heavier equipment and doctrine arise, for example in a crisis situation above level three, I'm sure that the FURFF units could easily be strengthened by forces from the member nations' national forces.
"As for funding, we agree that monetary loans might be a viable solution in the short term. In the long term, we would prefer a solution that guarantees the FURFF steady funding. One idea brought up by our staff members would be to grant the Union the right to directly collect taxes from, for example, the free trade hubs that exists within its borders. I know that the subject of financing the Union with taxes on the commercial activity on Neo'Ilos have been discussed before between us and the Alfegans, and the new joint Zaheranian-Monavian colony S:t Therese might also come in question. Due to the enormous influx of goods and money to these trade hubs, a tax of only a few percent may give the Union a good income. Coupled with funding recieved from the national governments, I think it would cover the expenses by quite a good margin."
As to the raising of money, I believe the point raised by Zaheran would be viable. Oraz/Neo'Ilos, one of the most wealthy nations in terms of trade travelling through and to it, would provide vast amounts of funds. I believe that, even with the introduction of a 5% tax, that would keep it a competitive area for prices, not drive off trade, and provide at least $5 billion per annum. If any other such unique territories in joint governance were able to provide such income, then we would be able to fund equipment sales and a loan without having to implement taxation on union members, which I assure is a last resort."
Charles continued to listen to the delegates discuss the needs of the Rapid Reaction Forces and wondered quickly how Mokastana could contribute to the financial effort, already 2% of the Government budget went to the Fegosian Union, usually paid out of the Defense and Administration Budgets. Charles thought for a minute as he began to figure out the backbone of Mokan Industry, which was farming surprisingly enough. Farms in Sur, Mejico, and Aqua Anu provided everything the Mokans would need, literally a multi-trillion dollar industry made up of local farmers and haciendas. Perhaps a slight increase in tax for the...no no no...the farmers fight any increase in tax. The corporations, now there is a taxable income. Most notable the shipping and freight industries, already the Shipping Companies made a fortune charging farmers and businesses to ship their goods to the different continents of Mokastana, as well as her trading partners.
"We in Mokastana should be able to contribute a half percent tax increase on the transport industry, once I can get it approved by parliament. At any given moment their are roughly a hundred freighters and dozens of planes transporting goods across Mokastana, not to mention international deliveries. We believe this should contribute roughly $3 billion annually to the Rapid reaction Forces. If we tax the transport Industry as a whole across the Union, or simply just the major Players like Montana Shipping and the Fegosian Airshipping Consortium, Miguel?"
"One second," Miguel began punching the numbers on his computer trying to figure out a close approximation to the effects a half percent increase on shipping would have.
"Rough estimate, if we charged Inter-Fegosian transport an additional Tax of half a percent, we could see an increase of roughly $10 billion. However I would recommend instead charging transport and trade outside the Union, perhaps 1% or so. This way our businesses and companies can still trade outside the Union, but we would make a little more off of it, and companies focus more on working within the Union. In other words, I propose a tariff of 1% for trading outside the Union. My only worry is that Nova policy restricts Tariffs within the Region. Since I am sure most of the non-Union trade is in Nova, it seems that I would need further information on them before I can determine the income this tariff would bring."
"Thank you, General," said the former President of St. Istvan University. "The new super-ports being established in each of the states in the HCSK were originally going to be a reduced tax point-of-entry. By raising the taxes on it to be comparable to other ports, that will generate an additional $12B a year that can go into FURRF."
by Mokastana » Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:37 pm
The State of Monavia wrote:
Minister Blake spoke up after the other delegates finished speaking. "Given the lack of high-grade, cutting-edge vehicles and arms, perhaps it would be prudent for us to take our standard designs and implement the creation of factories in all member states for producing what we need in larger numbers. The country known as Lyras, to my knowledge, is not located in Nova, therefore I cassume that all shipments have to travel vast distances. Such inconveniences add to the expense of producing and purchasing such arms. With internal means of production, we can more readily provide ourselves with the appropriate means of supplying our forces at a lower cost.
"On the matter of creating reaction forces for specific situations, I am inclined to accept the roposal from Katonazag's delegation, pending certain amendments and revisions to the same, in order to clarify the exact demands which these forces will place upon our logistical capabilities."
After listening to Charles' comments, Minister Blake thought about the numbers being given and wrote down a list. About $13 billion (USD, I assume) was possibly coming in from Mokastana. Curious, he turned to Charles. "Do you know how much money the Union's forces require to remain in operation? Exact figures can allow us to calculate exactly how much money that we would need to raise."
by The State of Monavia » Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:47 pm
So at the max, assuming we make it to 300,000 men all paid, feed and supplied very well, $30 billion.
by Alfegos » Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:59 pm
by The State of Monavia » Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:25 pm
by Katonazag » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:49 pm
"It's good to see you, Mr President, attend this most important of conferences. I hope I have not dragged you away from anything pressing in your nation - otherwise, I hope this next session will make it worth your while being here!"
by Mokastana » Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:42 pm
org, size and make-up of deterrent.
location
control/authorize launch
Union Treaty
by Zaheran » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:53 am
by Alfegos » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:50 am
The Zevkhay Amendent
Preface
In light of the ever-increased threat of attack by a power with CBRN weapons;
With the realisation of the increasing prevalence and potency of CBRN weapons;
And with the need for the Union to co-ordinate CBRN systems;
And with the need of a Joint System for the Co-ordination of counter-CBRN systems;
This Amendment will amend Article III, Chapter 5 of the Union Charter in line with the following amendment.
This Amendment will amend Article
Chapter VI - Concerning CBRN weaponry, and Defensive Systems[b]
[B]Article 1
Clause 1 - All member states of the Fegosian Union will agree to maintain, if required, Union facilities relating to Deterrent weapons, defensive systems, and the paraphernalia of facilities required in their upkeep.
Clause 2 - The alliance defines a 'Deterrent Weapon' as a weapon making use of a biological, lethal chemical, radiological, nuclear or electromagnetic pulse source that may cause mass indiscriminate damage to a nation. A deterrent weapon is also defined as an orbit-earth high-energy kinetic projectile, with a potential yield of above 1kT TNT equivalent.
Clause 3 - The alliance deterrent will be composed of weapons sufficient to provide an effective strategic deterrent, yet will not be of such a level as deemed unnecessarily high by the Fegosian Union.
Clause 4 - No alliance member may use, interfere with or impede any deterrent system in use by the FURRF, unless the use of such a weapon has been made without permission from the FURRF Supreme Council.
Clause 5 - All decisions related to the aggressive use of CBRN systems must be agreed unanimously by the FURRF Supreme Council.
Article II
Clause 1 - Union members will agree to stock a fair share of CBRN weapons, in whatever form they may be in, relative to the need of their use by the FUSC.
Clause 2 - CBRN weapons in the Union's possession will be under the permanent control of the FURRF Deterrent Control (FURRFDC).
Clause 3 - All CBRN weapons must be suitably defended by all means against attack or hijack, and must be kept in a state suitable for use should it arise.
Article III
Clause 1 - The Union will form a permanent Early Warning Systems (the UEWS), to provide a Union-wide analysis of threats and detection of CBRN deployment.
Clause 2 - Union-wide responses to occurances highlighted by the UEWS will be co-ordinated by the Union Combined Anti-Ballistic System (UCABS), using FURRF assets and aiding in the control of Union member assets.
by The State of Monavia » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:22 pm
by Katonazag » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:28 pm
by Zaheran » Thu Nov 12, 2009 1:51 pm
by The State of Monavia » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:47 pm
The Zevkhay Amendent
Preface
In light of the ever-increased threat of attack by a power with CBRN weapons;
With the realisation of the increasing prevalence and potency of CBRN weapons;
And with the need for the Union to co-ordinate CBRN systems;
And with the need of a Joint System for the co-ordination of counter-CBRN systems;
This Amendment will amend Article III, Chapter 5 of the Union Charter in line with the following amendment. [line below modified]
Chapter VI - Concerning CBRN weaponry, and Defensive Systems
Article I
Clause 1 - All member states of the Fegosian Union will agree to maintain, if required, Union facilities relating to Deterrent weapons, defensive systems, and the paraphernalia of facilities required in their upkeep.
Clause 2 - The alliance defines a 'Deterrent Weapon' as a weapon making use of a biological, lethal chemical, radiological, nuclear or electromagnetic pulse source that may cause mass indiscriminate damage to a nation. A deterrent weapon is also defined as an orbit-earth high-energy kinetic projectile, with a potential yield of above one kiloton of TNT or a comparable equivalent.
Clause 3 - The alliance deterrent will be composed of weapons sufficient to provide an effective strategic deterrent against foreign aggression, yet will not be of such a level as deemed unnecessarily high by the Fegosian Union Supreme Council.
Clause 4 - No alliance member may use, interfere with, or impede any deterrent system in use by the FURRF, unless the use of such a weapon has been made without permission from the FURRF Supreme Council.
Clause 5 - All decisions related to the aggressive use of CBRN systems must obtain unanimous agreement by the FURRF Supreme Council. [old wording revised]
Article II
Clause 1 - Union members will agree to stock a fair share of CBRN weapons, in whatever form they deem practical, relative to the need of their use by the FUSC.
Clause 2 - CBRN weapons in the Union's possession will be under the permanent control of the FURRF Deterrent Control (FURRFDC).
Clause 3 - All CBRN weapons and facilities constructed for storing, deploying, launching, or producing them must be suitably defended by all means against attack or hijack, and must be kept in a state suitable for use should the need arise. Members are obligated to maintain appropriate security forces to protect said facilities.
Article III
Clause 1 - The Union will form a permanent Early Warning Systems (the UEWS), to provide a Union-wide analysis of threats and detection of CBRN deployment.
Clause 2 - Union-wide responses to occurances highlighted by the UEWS will be co-ordinated by the Union Combined Anti-Ballistic System (UCABS), using FURRF assets and aiding in the control of Union member assets.
by Alfegos » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:53 pm
The Zevkhay Amendent
Preface
In light of the ever-increased threat of attack by a power with CBRN weapons;
With the realisation of the increasing prevalence and potency of CBRN weapons;
And with the need for the Union to co-ordinate CBRN systems;
And with the need of a Joint System for the Co-ordination of counter-CBRN systems;
This Amendment will amend Article III, Chapter 5 of the Union Charter in line with the following amendment.
Chapter VI - Concerning CBRN weaponry, and Defensive Systems
Article 1 - Definitions and Restrictions
Clause 1 - All member states of the Fegosian Union will agree to maintain, if required, Union facilities relating to Deterrent weapons, defensive systems, and the paraphernalia of facilities required in their upkeep, as part of the FURRFDC (Fegosian Union Rapid Reaction Force Deterrent Control).
Clause 2 - The alliance defines a 'Deterrent Weapon' as a weapon making use of a biological, lethal chemical, radiological, nuclear or electromagnetic pulse source that may cause mass indiscriminate damage to a nation. A deterrent weapon is also defined as an orbit-earth high-energy kinetic projectile, with a potential yield of above one kiloton of TNT or a comparable equivalent.
Clause 3 - The Union Deterrant will be restricted to perform its need as a tactical and strategic weaponry, complying with the following guidelines:
(a) - The stockpile will only utilise lethal biological agents, which can either effectively be vaccinated against or treated with inexpensive drugs.
(b) - Radiological weapons will be limited to a maximum yield of 1 Gray/m^2 above background radiation levels, with at least 80% of the component isotopes having half lives of under 2 years.
(c) - Agents acting specifically as carcinogenic or tetragenic agents will not be used in the Deterrent.
(d) - Nuclear weaponry will be limited in the deterrent to a maximum yield of 1Mt TNT equivalent. Devices must have a fuel-energy conversion efficiency of at least 80%, and either be high yield fission or fusion devices. Special consideration must be sought if such devices are to be used in a ground burst.
(e) - So-called 'salted' nuclear devices will not be used in the deterrent.
(f) - To prevent collateral damage, no EMP or Nuclear device in the stockpile may be converted to be used at either high altitude (>20km) or in space.
Clause 4 - Alliance members have a right to maintain and produce prohibited weaponry from the article above, though will have to notify the Union of the type and quantity of such devices, and give special consideration before their use, even if the Union approves of launch of CBRNE weaponry.
Clause 5 - The alliance deterrent will be composed of weapons sufficient to provide an effective strategic deterrent against foreign aggression, yet will not be of such a level as deemed unnecessarily high by the Fegosian Union Supreme Council, to avoid provokation.
Clause 6 - No alliance member may use, interfere with or impede any deterrent system in use by the FURRF, unless the use of such a weapon has been made without permission from the FURRF Supreme Council.
Clause 7 - All decisions related to the aggressive use of CBRNE systems must obtain unanimous agreement by the FURRF Supreme Council..
Article II
Clause 1 - Union members will agree to stock a fair share of CBRN weapons, in whatever form they may be in, relative to the need of their use by the FUSC.
Clause 2 - CBRN weapons in the Union's possession will be under the permanent control of the FURRF Deterrent Control (FURRFDC).
Clause 3 - All CBRN weapons and facilities constructed for storing, deploying, launching, or producing them must be suitably defended by all means against attack or hijack, and must be kept in a state suitable for use should the need arise. Members are obligated to maintain appropriate security forces to protect said facilities.
Article III - Early Warning and Defence
Clause 1 - The Union will form a permanent Early Warning Systems (the UEWS), to provide a Union-wide analysis of threats and detection of CBRNE deployment. The UEWS will also be responsible for co-ordinating Union Member defence strategm against the deployment of CBRNE
weapons, and advise member governments accordingly.
Clause 2 - The UEWS will be provided with sensory resources sufficient to carry out its purpose, and offices in each Union Member nation from where it can carry out national advisory roles.
Clause 3 - Union-wide responses to occurances highlighted by the UEWS will be co-ordinated by the Union Combined Anti-Ballistic System (UCABS), using FURRF assets and aiding in the control of Union member assets.
Clause 4 - The UCABS will be provided with anti-ballistic weaponry systems able to defend Union members sufficiently, yet not to an excess. UCABS will be allowed to use sensory resources of Union members, and of the UEWS.
Article 4 - Concerning Union Member's Usage of CBRNE weaponry, and Maintenance
Clause 1 - Union Members must recognise the significance of the manufacture, stockpiling and use of CBRNE weaponry, and as such recognise the impact of the use of such weapon systems.
Clause 2 - Union Members must agree to the foundation and upkeep of the Fegosian Union Deterrent Supervisory Office (FUDSO). This office will be tasked with the inspection of FURRF and Union members CBRNE weaponry, and of the facilities of UEWS and UCABS, ensuring that Chapter VI, Article II, Clause 3 of the Union Charter is upheld. Inspection of national Deterrents and support systems is voluntary.
Clause 3 - All FURRFDC, UCABS and UEWS facilities in Union territories must be maintained by the host nation alongside the relevant agencies, and must have an appropriate level of defence provided alongside the FURRF.
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