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Alpha and Delta Pact
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Postby Alpha and Delta Pact » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:35 pm

Nation Full Name: The Reformed Federation of Alpha and Delta Pact
Nation Head of State: President Jonathan
Nation Head of Government: President Jonathan
Do you Accept Terms of this Charter: Yes
Do you Support Democracy: Yes
Do you wish for Member/Observer: Member
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Salvarity
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Postby Salvarity » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:36 pm

Urmanian wrote:
Salvarity wrote:OOC: Even though this is an OOC thread the Reason is because what would we put in the charter if that was all that was mentioned.


OOC: Still looks a trifle silly to me truth be told, I don't understand the purpose of the list. Also, I believe that member states are free to opress and disenfranchise species that weren't lucky enough to get on the list to their heart's content?




They are not open to opression. But that would go against Freedom. So Oppression is kinda canceled out as a member states alternative because of the fact that would destroy Freedom.



Alpha and Delta Pact wrote:Nation Full Name: The Reformed Federation of Alpha and Delta Pact
Nation Head of State: President Jonathan
Nation Head of Government: President Jonathan
Do you Accept Terms of this Charter: Yes
Do you Support Democracy: Yes
Do you wish for Member/Observer: Member


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Greater Mackonia
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:38 pm

Apparently my species is not sentient according to this pro pony organization
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Durmatagno
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Postby Durmatagno » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:40 pm

I have a little of everything in this version of Durmatagno, including AI's as thats one of the most advanced areas of Durmatagno, followed closely by aircraft and bio-engeniring
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:42 pm

Greater Mackonia wrote:Apparently my species is not sentient according to this pro pony organization


And so apparently are Zebras (while ponies and "sea ponies", whatever they are, are listed as sentient, Morning Star approves), Diamond Dogs and Sea Serpents, so we finally agree with you on something. A miraculous occurrence.
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YellowApple
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Postby YellowApple » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:42 pm

Urmanian wrote:
Salvarity wrote:OOC: Even though this is an OOC thread the Reason is because what would we put in the charter if that was all that was mentioned.


OOC: Still looks a trifle silly to me truth be told, I don't understand the purpose of the list. Also, I believe that member states are free to opress and disenfranchise species that weren't lucky enough to get on the list to their heart's content?


Oh you and your human-oppressing ways.

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Salvarity
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Postby Salvarity » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:43 pm

Beastling and Demi-Humans pretty much covers everything. So i could use that as a defence is a nation asks why are there random species not included on a list.



Greater Mackonia wrote:Apparently my species is not sentient according to this pro pony organization


the lizards are Beastlings and so are the Cats


Urmanian wrote:
Greater Mackonia wrote:Apparently my species is not sentient according to this pro pony organization


And so apparently are Zebras (while ponies and "sea ponies", whatever they are, are listed as sentient, Morning Star approves), Diamond Dogs and Sea Serpents, so we finally agree with you on something. A miraculous occurrence.


can they solve 2+2 if so Beastling
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:43 pm

YellowApple wrote:Oh you and your human-oppressing ways.


hush
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:45 pm

Salvarity wrote:can they solve 2+2 if so Beastling


I doubt "beastlings" covers zebras and sea serpents
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Durmatagno
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Postby Durmatagno » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:45 pm

The majority of my nation is still human, followed by our AI's followed by cats at 23,546 and ponies at 21,234

Computers=FT
Aircraft= Late PMT
Bio- Late PMT
Everything else= Mid level PMT
Official ranking=65% of the way to FT meaning barely past mid-PMT
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Salvarity
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Postby Salvarity » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:46 pm

Urmanian wrote:
Salvarity wrote:can they solve 2+2 if so Beastling


I doubt "beastlings" covers zebras and sea serpents



it does.
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:49 pm

Salvarity wrote:it does.


OOC: Then all species in the list fall under "beastlings". I swear this list was done solely to troll me about the Discord's vile spawn sea ponies
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Crystal Spires
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Postby Crystal Spires » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:50 pm

Indeed it does.
Beastling= Any Anthropomorphic sapient creature.
Demihuman= Any sapient Creature with a meld of Human and animal features.
Changeling= Any shape shifting sapient creature
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Crystal Spires
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Postby Crystal Spires » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:51 pm

Urmanian wrote:
Salvarity wrote:it does.


OOC: Then all species in the list fall under "beastlings". I swear this list was done solely to troll me about the Discord's vile spawn sea ponies


Special protections were put, because they're being singled out. It's emphatic.
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Salvarity
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Postby Salvarity » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:52 pm

Urmanian wrote:
Salvarity wrote:it does.


OOC: Then all species in the list fall under "beastlings". I swear this list was done solely to troll me about the Discord's vile spawn sea ponies



you heavily inspired it. This list singled our species that required extra protection from Powerful and Hypocrital regimes that wanted to harm said species. *Cough Urmania Cough Hippostainia cough Earth Sphere Coalition cough*
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Urmanian
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Postby Urmanian » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:54 pm

Salvarity wrote:you heavily inspired it. This list singled our species that required extra protection from Powerful and Hypocrital regimes that wanted to harm said species. *Cough Urmania Cough Hippostainia cough Earth Sphere Coalition cough*


I fail to see any regimes that would want to opress dinosaurs, dragons, walrusfolk and bulldogs, among others, then. Why are these singled out?
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Salvarity
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Postby Salvarity » Mon Nov 07, 2011 1:56 pm

Urmanian wrote:
Salvarity wrote:you heavily inspired it. This list singled our species that required extra protection from Powerful and Hypocrital regimes that wanted to harm said species. *Cough Urmania Cough Hippostainia cough Earth Sphere Coalition cough*


I fail to see any regimes that would want to opress dinosaurs, dragons, walrusfolk and bulldogs, among others, then. Why are these singled out?


by request of said species

Dinosaurs and Dragons were requested by Salvarity
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Salvarity
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Postby Salvarity » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:37 pm

Which is a better name Union of
1) Freedom and Equality
2) Equality and Freedom
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Alpha and Delta Pact
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Postby Alpha and Delta Pact » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:39 pm

Freedom and Equality
DEFCON: [1][2][3]][4][5]
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Salvarity
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Postby Salvarity » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:43 pm

Can you guys do us a Favour and RP an entrance into the IC thread. the IC Thread is in the Second Post
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Durmatagno
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Postby Durmatagno » Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:45 pm

UFE or UEF
I go with UFE

and I made an entrance and was ignored
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Crystal Spires
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Postby Crystal Spires » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:23 pm

Durmatagno wrote:UFE or UEF
I go with UFE

and I made an entrance and was ignored


WERE NOOOT...
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Rupudska
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Postby Rupudska » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:25 pm

Nation Full Name: The Grand and Eternal Empire of Karlsland

Nation Head of State: Emperor Frederick VI

Nation Head of Government: Prime Minister Erica Bachmeier

Do you Accept Terms of this Charter: Rights to all sapient beings is in our constitution, so obviously.

Do you Support Democracy: Yes and no. All positions in the Reichstag and the Council of Governors are by election, but the chiefs of ministry, and the heads of the military are all appointed by the King. The government system is a bit like a cross between the UK (Parliament/Reichstag, appointment of ministers by the regent, and obviously the royal family is head of state) and the US (Two-house legislative branch, elections to most positions in both branches, the federal constitutional part of federal constitutional monarchy)

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Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
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Crystal Spires
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Postby Crystal Spires » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:29 pm

Rupudska wrote:Nation Full Name: The Grand and Eternal Empire of Karlsland

Nation Head of State: Emperor Frederick VI

Nation Head of Government: Prime Minister Erica Bachmeier

Do you Accept Terms of this Charter: Rights to all sapient beings is in our constitution, so obviously.

Do you Support Democracy: Yes and no. All positions in the Reichstag and the Council of Governors are by election, but the chiefs of ministry, and the heads of the military are all appointed by the King. The government system is a bit like a cross between the UK (Parliament/Reichstag, appointment of ministers by the regent, and obviously the royal family is head of state) and the US (Two-house legislative branch, elections to most positions in both branches, the federal constitutional part of federal constitutional monarchy)

Do you wish for Member/Observer: Member, however if this is impossible, Observer.


I don't see too much of a problem with this as long as people have some sort of say. What happens if the chiefs of ministry, and the heads of the military don't have the public's interest in mind? Does the King serve and act in the name of his people?
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Postby Rupudska » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:31 pm

Crystal Spires wrote:I don't see too much of a problem with this as long as people have some sort of say. What happens if the chiefs of ministry, and the heads of the military don't have the public's interest in mind? Does the King serve and act in the name of his people?


If public outcry is strong enough, they can be removed from their position or demoted. In extreme cases, they can be ejected from the government/military entirely.
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Hladgos wrote:Scantly clad women, more like tanks
seem to be blowing up everyones banks
with airstrikes from girls with wings to their knees
which show a bit more than just their panties

Questers wrote:
Rupudska wrote:So do you fight with AK-47s or something even more primitive? Since I doubt any economy could reasonably sustain itself that way.
Presumably they use advanced technology like STRIKE WITCHES

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