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The United Remnants of America
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:40 pm

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Yep.

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Postby Ardoki » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:41 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:@Deian: I am dictatorial (shogunate) and proud.

For the religion issue, 87.5% of Poles are Roman Catholics, but they are of different level of engagement. Still, Poland is very Catholic county where constitution defines marriage as between man and woman and we generally do not consider LGBTs normal, at least by majority.

Stating now as part of realism debate.

The majority of people in my grade at school are irreligious, there are some christians in our year however they are often viewed as strange and the butt of jokes.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:43 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:Still, Poland is very Catholic county where constitution defines marriage as between man and woman and we generally do not consider LGBTs normal, at least by majority.

Do you have an impulse to talk about LGBTs and how they won't get rights in your country? Because you keep mentioning it up as if it's important or anyone cares.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:44 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
New Aeyariss wrote:Still, Poland is very Catholic county where constitution defines marriage as between man and woman and we generally do not consider LGBTs normal, at least by majority.

Do you have an impulse to talk about LGBTs and how they won't get rights in your country? Because you keep mentioning it up as if it's important or anyone cares.

You're right. Nobody really cares about LGBTs.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:45 pm

Deian salazar wrote:
Ardoki wrote:The majority of people in my grade at school are irreligious, there are some christians in our year however they are often viewed as strange and the butt of jokes.

You are in a horrible school then. Very intolerant and hateful. I'd hate to be the poor sucker who lives there.

The majority of people in my grade at school are religious, there are some irreligious in our year however they are often viewed as strange and the butt of jokes.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:45 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Do you have an impulse to talk about LGBTs and how they won't get rights in your country? Because you keep mentioning it up as if it's important or anyone cares.

You're right. Nobody really cares about LGBTs.

No wonder why you're second to me.
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Postby New Aeyariss » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:46 pm

FAA wrote:Do you have an impulse to talk about LGBTs and how they won't get rights in your country? Because you keep mentioning it up as if it's important or anyone cares.


I stated how facts look like FAA.

Learn to differ between fact and opinion. I did not stated "they are not normal". I did it especially for Ardoki to explain how majority Poles view social issues.

If you do not like that, go protest near Polish polling stations, please, and leave me alone; I am not starting any debate on this topic here.
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:46 pm

Deian salazar wrote:
Ardoki wrote:You really can't compare the two.


So wait. Because religion was favoured in the Medieval Period, the religious were therefore persecuted?

If not, you haven't answered my question.

1: You can. Point is, even 1% a population is a massive difference
2: No, my point is, people were still religious after the religious people used them a ton in The Middle ages. The religious weren't persecuted. Dunno where you got that idea.

1. If 88% of the population of Sweden is irreligious, a 5% increase is very little. However say if a country's military is 0.5% of the population (quite a high number for a developed county), an 1% increase is much greater. The two are not comparable.

2. I really don't understand your Middle Ages comparison. It bares absolutely no resemblance to the history or situation of Ardoki.
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:47 pm

Deian salazar wrote:
Ardoki wrote:The majority of people in my grade at school are irreligious, there are some christians in our year however they are often viewed as strange and the butt of jokes.

You are in a horrible school then. Very intolerant and hateful. I'd hate to be the poor sucker who lives there.

I live in Australia. In every school in the country (except maybe religious schools), the majority of students will be irreligious.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:48 pm

I stated how facts look like FAA.

Facts which are completely irrelevant to this.
Learn to differ between fact and opinion. I did not stated "they are not normal".

Learn to interpret what I said correctly, why don't you?
If you do not like that, go protest near Polish polling stations, please, and leave me alone; I am not starting any debate on this topic here.

I really don't care about Poland. Like, at all. Same way I don't care about the Balkans or Belarus, yet you still misinterpret what I say.
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:49 pm

New Aeyariss wrote:
FAA wrote:Do you have an impulse to talk about LGBTs and how they won't get rights in your country? Because you keep mentioning it up as if it's important or anyone cares.


I stated how facts look like FAA.

Learn to differ between fact and opinion. I did not stated "they are not normal". I did it especially for Ardoki to explain how majority Poles view social issues.

If you do not like that, go protest near Polish polling stations, please, and leave me alone; I am not starting any debate on this topic here.

In Australia, most people support equal rights for LGBTQ+ individuals.

Over 30% of people in Australia have no religious affiliation (and a lot of people who have religious affiliation are likely to also be irreligious).
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:50 pm

Deian salazar wrote:2: I'm comparing the two because despite the middle ages likely being older, it has the same moral: Many people still were religious even after the scams were discovered.

Then tell me, what did those people think about other religions? Did they live amongst them and not cause any sort of legal troubles like most nations do today?
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:51 pm

Deian salazar wrote:
Ardoki wrote:1. If 88% of the population of Sweden is irreligious, a 5% increase is very little. However say if a country's military is 0.5% of the population (quite a high number for a developed county), an 1% increase is much greater. The two are not comparable.

2. I really don't understand your Middle Ages comparison. It bares absolutely no resemblance to the history or situation of Ardoki.

1: Actually, it is a bigger increase than you think. Consult the NS realism thread, if you must.
2: I'm comparing the two because despite the middle ages likely being older, it has the same moral: Many people still were religious even after the scams were discovered.

Except when in the middle ages, did an organised government crack down on religion, and completely marginalise it to this very day?

In today's modern world, more and more people are becoming irreligious (in developed countries anyway). My country had quite of a head start, and implemented policies to hasten its demise.
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:53 pm

Deian salazar wrote:
Ardoki wrote:I live in Australia. In every school in the country (except maybe religious schools), the majority of students will be irreligious.

huh. I never knew that about Australia. I take that back then. In America though, it'dbe different.

In the 2011 Census, an extra 3% of the population had no religious affiliation than did in the 2006 Census. Irreligion is growing fast, and is especially prevalent among the younger generation.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:54 pm

SACTO gets activity when Atlas members post there.

IFC gets activity when they have a normal discussion about new ideas or voting or alliance shaping.

UL, well, UL gets activity when we bitch at each other about something rather pointless.

Let's keep being #1, guys.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:56 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:SACTO gets activity when Atlas members post there.

IFC gets activity when they have a normal discussion about new ideas or voting or alliance shaping.

UL, well, UL gets activity when we bitch at each other about something rather pointless.

Let's keep being #1, guys.


Pretty Much.

SACTO members like Quirina and New Aeyariss always drop by our thread, but even then we bitch and whine to each other.
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Postby Luepola » Fri Jul 03, 2015 8:59 pm

Ardoki wrote:
Deian salazar wrote:1: You can. Point is, even 1% a population is a massive difference
2: No, my point is, people were still religious after the religious people used them a ton in The Middle ages. The religious weren't persecuted. Dunno where you got that idea.

1. If 88% of the population of Sweden is irreligious, a 5% increase is very little. However say if a country's military is 0.5% of the population (quite a high number for a developed county), an 1% increase is much greater. The two are not comparable.


um

if there's a 5% increase from 88% to 93% regarding irreligious population then that means the religious population is being cut from 12% to 7%

while not a significant change in irreligious, it would be a very significant change in the remaining religious population given that you've just about halved it
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:01 pm

Luepola wrote:
Ardoki wrote:1. If 88% of the population of Sweden is irreligious, a 5% increase is very little. However say if a country's military is 0.5% of the population (quite a high number for a developed county), an 1% increase is much greater. The two are not comparable.


um

if there's a 5% increase from 88% to 93% regarding irreligious population then that means the religious population is being cut from 12% to 7%

while not a significant change in irreligious, it would be a very significant change in the remaining religious population given that you've just about halved it

Yes.

However we are not arguing about such population changes.

88% of Sweden's population is irreligious (we both agree on this). 93% of Ardoki's population is irreligious. Dein claims that such a 5% difference is impossible, I think it isn't.
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Postby Ardoki » Fri Jul 03, 2015 9:04 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:SACTO gets activity when Atlas members post there.

IFC gets activity when they have a normal discussion about new ideas or voting or alliance shaping.

UL, well, UL gets activity when we bitch at each other about something rather pointless.

Let's keep being #1, guys.


Pretty Much.

SACTO members like Quirina and New Aeyariss always drop by our thread, but even then we bitch and whine to each other.

Hey Fur Fur. How ya going? :)
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Postby Zhenos » Sat Jul 04, 2015 2:33 am

The United Remnants of America wrote:SACTO gets activity when Atlas members post there.

IFC gets activity when they have a normal discussion about new ideas or voting or alliance shaping.

UL, well, UL gets activity when we bitch at each other about something rather pointless.

Let's keep being #1, guys.


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Postby New Jordslag » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:13 am

Zhenos wrote:
The United Remnants of America wrote:SACTO gets activity when Atlas members post there.

IFC gets activity when they have a normal discussion about new ideas or voting or alliance shaping.

UL, well, UL gets activity when we bitch at each other about something rather pointless.

Let's keep being #1, guys.


Well it's the place for Kolo dance. When are you guys going to war against one another again?

Wait, you mean we aren't at war with each other anymore?

Shit.

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Postby The Diasporia » Sat Jul 04, 2015 10:07 am

The United Remnants of America wrote:SACTO gets activity when Atlas members post there.

IFC gets activity when they have a normal discussion about new ideas or voting or alliance shaping.

UL, well, UL gets activity when we bitch at each other about something rather pointless.

Let's keep being #1, guys.


Yeah, and here I thought that the point of uniting the left was to avoid the bitching and whining. Silly me.
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Postby Ardoki » Sat Jul 04, 2015 4:40 pm

Okay, I've been thinking of the operations of the Democratic Republican Party.

It supports grassroots democracy, and the members of the Party have influence on Party policy and administration (however obviously the values of the Party must be followed; freedom, egalitarianism, progressivism, etcetera). It also gets members when they are young, the Democratic Republican Youth is the largest youth organisation in the Ardokian Republic (over two thirds of the population between the ages of 13 and 29 are members). Trade Unions are major backers and supporters of the DRP.
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Postby The United Remnants of America » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:08 pm

I'll most likely pull my posting on here back, now that I'm a stone's throw away from being DEAT'd.

If you need anything, TG me while I wait for my Warning level to go down. Even though I don't think it actually ever goes down.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:10 pm

The United Remnants of America wrote:I'll most likely pull my posting on here back, now that I'm a stone's throw away from being DEAT'd.

If you need anything, TG me while I wait for my Warning level to go down. Even though I don't think it actually ever goes down.

It does.

Every 6 months.
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