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Postby The Five Galaxies » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:37 am

Twilight Imperium wrote:
The Five Galaxies wrote:Why? There is already a way to opt-out, which is not participate at all. Ignore it, and it goes away in 36 hours. You don't even have to be online for it.


That's really silly. If you really enjoy Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., but once every season they run an episode where every actor is replaced by a trained shark, would you suggest just skipping that episode? Or would you write a polite letter to the producers?

(assume for the sake of the example that that would not be amazing)

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Heartily agreed! That's why this is a polite request for their unpaid work, instead :)


I'd suggest skipping it if trained sharks wasn't in your list of interests. :p

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Postby Drawkland » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:17 am

So why are you still here? I've been following this thread since the beginning, and it's literally just repeating itself.

So what's the point of staying? You're not really convincing anyone who already didn't consider this, and there's an unlimited amount of people who don't care and/or disagree.

Are you waiting for God to descend from heaven into the thread and say, "You were right, Quilavaland, there should be an opt-out, go pat yourself on the back!"?
The mods have definitely already seen this thread, and haven't responded.


... so why are we still here arguing?
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Postby Twilight Imperium » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:13 am

I was mostly posting to prevent a small, but non-inconsequential minority from being dogpiled under a weirdly hypocritical majority. However, since we got an answer in the other thread, we cool now :)

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Postby Cornelius Hertz » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:08 pm

Does anyone knows what time of the day this will start?

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Postby New Brussels » Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:29 pm

Quilava - kid - if you feel so strongly about the issue, bring it up with the mods.

They'll have a great time telling you what we told you already :p
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Postby Quilavaland » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:04 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Twilight Imperium wrote:
So, in short, something annoyed you on Nationstates, so you posted on the forums about it to request that it stop happening?


I must've missed the part where I was annoyed.


I annoyed you, so you tried to stop me.
The lack of an opt-out annoyed me, so I tried to stop it.
Difference? I think not.
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Postby Quilavaland » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:05 pm

New Brussels wrote:Quilava - kid - if you feel so strongly about the issue, bring it up with the mods.

They'll have a great time telling you what we told you already :p

Already did. Apparently they don't have time even though there's 12 whole months till the next event after this one and they somehow had the time to code the zombie thing in the first place, even though that was unpaid too.

Cornelius Hertz wrote:Does anyone knows what time of the day this will start?

I don't think so. Just another indication of how uninformed everyone is :/
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I am very far left-wing socially and economically in between capitalism and communism.
I'm sort of a "Radical Centrist", I guess. I support the Australian Green Party most out of any political party, though I don't fully agree with anyone.
Quilava is by far my favourite pokemon as it is cute and badass at the same time and has a fire mohawk!

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Postby The Five Galaxies » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:10 am

Quilavaland wrote:
New Brussels wrote:Quilava - kid - if you feel so strongly about the issue, bring it up with the mods.

They'll have a great time telling you what we told you already :p

Already did. Apparently they don't have time even though there's 12 whole months till the next event after this one and they somehow had the time to code the zombie thing in the first place, even though that was unpaid too.

Cornelius Hertz wrote:Does anyone knows what time of the day this will start?

I don't think so. Just another indication of how uninformed everyone is :/


There's also the matter of an opt-out already being in place: don't log-in during those particular 36 hours (I can't imagine this being too difficult) or just ignore it (there are no consequences to ignoring it, and the whole thing is over in 36 hours). It really is not an issue.

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Postby Twilight Imperium » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:14 am

The Five Galaxies wrote:There's also the matter of an opt-out already being in place: don't log-in during those particular 36 hours (I can't imagine this being too difficult) or just ignore it (there are no consequences to ignoring it, and the whole thing is over in 36 hours). It really is not an issue.


If your entire argument is "I don't care about this, so you shouldn't either", then why are you even posting?

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Postby Quilavaland » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:18 am

Twilight Imperium wrote:
The Five Galaxies wrote:There's also the matter of an opt-out already being in place: don't log-in during those particular 36 hours (I can't imagine this being too difficult) or just ignore it (there are no consequences to ignoring it, and the whole thing is over in 36 hours). It really is not an issue.


If your entire argument is "I don't care about this, so you shouldn't either", then why are you even posting?

I agree but I don't think anything is listening to us so this thread is getting kind of pointless :/
I am very far left-wing socially and economically in between capitalism and communism.
I'm sort of a "Radical Centrist", I guess. I support the Australian Green Party most out of any political party, though I don't fully agree with anyone.
Quilava is by far my favourite pokemon as it is cute and badass at the same time and has a fire mohawk!

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Postby The Five Galaxies » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:03 am

Twilight Imperium wrote:
The Five Galaxies wrote:There's also the matter of an opt-out already being in place: don't log-in during those particular 36 hours (I can't imagine this being too difficult) or just ignore it (there are no consequences to ignoring it, and the whole thing is over in 36 hours). It really is not an issue.


If your entire argument is "I don't care about this, so you shouldn't either", then why are you even posting?


To try and show him how much of a non-issue it is, it's really trivial. Nothing is forced upon him that he can't ignore over a 36-hour period with zero consequences.

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Postby Quilavaland » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:09 am

The Five Galaxies wrote:To try and show him how much of a non-issue it is, it's really trivial. Nothing is forced upon him that he can't ignore over a 36-hour period with zero consequences.


So that's what you're trying to do? The thing is, you have a different definition of trivial. Just because something is non-permanent doesn't make it not an issue. (If it happens every year it is permanent but that's an argument for another time.)

It still causes me distress knowing my people are dying, even temporarily, call me a whiny kid or whatever insult you want but that's how I feel. It also causes confusion for others not on the forums or who don't check the news.

And if something is appearing on the page despite me doing nothing to cause it - then it's being forced on me. That's a fact, face it. An opt-out wouldn't be forced on you, it'd just be optional. But the lack of one means this IS being forced on me. I have more to lose here.
I am very far left-wing socially and economically in between capitalism and communism.
I'm sort of a "Radical Centrist", I guess. I support the Australian Green Party most out of any political party, though I don't fully agree with anyone.
Quilava is by far my favourite pokemon as it is cute and badass at the same time and has a fire mohawk!

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Postby The Five Galaxies » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:11 am

Quilavaland wrote:
The Five Galaxies wrote:To try and show him how much of a non-issue it is, it's really trivial. Nothing is forced upon him that he can't ignore over a 36-hour period with zero consequences.


So that's what you're trying to do? The thing is, you have a different definition of trivial. Just because something is non-permanent doesn't make it not an issue. (If it happens every year it is permanent but that's an argument for another time.)

It still causes me distress knowing my people are dying, even temporarily, call me a whiny kid or whatever insult you want but that's how I feel. It also causes confusion for others not on the forums or who don't check the news.

And if something is appearing on the page despite me doing nothing to cause it - then it's being forced on me. That's a fact, face it. An opt-out wouldn't be forced on you, it'd just be optional. But the lack of one means this IS being forced on me. I have more to lose here.


Except your people aren't dying. They're not even real. It's all just numbers and statistics on a screen, so why complain about it? It's over and reset in 36 hours.

As I said, it's nothing being forced upon you that you can't ignore - just don't pay any attention to it, nothing will happen!

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Postby The V O I D » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:13 am

OK, well. I decided that it was utterly most important I post here. First thing's first- Sir, or Madam, OP of this thread, I inform you that there is an optional opt-out preinstalled to NS-Z. The opt-out's button? No button- you simply refuse to look at the NS-Z stats and such, and refuse to press one of those big shiny buttons that say 'cure', 'kill', or 'infect'. I know it's tempting to press big shiny buttons, but just ignore them for 3, short, days, and it's all over. Bam batta-boom.
As for your grandmother, I'd advise calling her and informing her of this Halloween event and it's temporary status. Nonetheless, happy Halloween!

Onwards, to other threads I must go.

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Postby -Ebola- » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:15 am

Quilavaland wrote:
The Five Galaxies wrote:To try and show him how much of a non-issue it is, it's really trivial. Nothing is forced upon him that he can't ignore over a 36-hour period with zero consequences.


So that's what you're trying to do? The thing is, you have a different definition of trivial. Just because something is non-permanent doesn't make it not an issue. (If it happens every year it is permanent but that's an argument for another time.)

It still causes me distress knowing my people are dying, even temporarily, call me a whiny kid or whatever insult you want but that's how I feel. It also causes confusion for others not on the forums or who don't check the news.

And if something is appearing on the page despite me doing nothing to cause it - then it's being forced on me. That's a fact, face it. An opt-out wouldn't be forced on you, it'd just be optional. But the lack of one means this IS being forced on me. I have more to lose here.


Maybe this is one of those things that you need DNA to understand, but I really don't see why it causes you distress.
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Postby Quilavaland » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:45 am

The Five Galaxies wrote:
Except your people aren't dying. They're not even real. It's all just numbers and statistics on a screen, so why complain about it? It's over and reset in 36 hours.

As I said, it's nothing being forced upon you that you can't ignore - just don't pay any attention to it, nothing will happen!


But I know those numbers are happening out there somewhere in a server. Maybe I'm overly sensitive but there are other sensitive people too. I'm just imagining the zombie Quilavas as being cute and happy rather than diseased or dead, to try and get myself through this. But others might not have such a nice mental solution.
I am very far left-wing socially and economically in between capitalism and communism.
I'm sort of a "Radical Centrist", I guess. I support the Australian Green Party most out of any political party, though I don't fully agree with anyone.
Quilava is by far my favourite pokemon as it is cute and badass at the same time and has a fire mohawk!

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Postby Quilavaland » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:46 am

-Ebola- wrote:Maybe this is one of those things that you need DNA to understand, but I really don't see why it causes you distress.

This is off-topic but I've seen you all over the forums and it's really cool how you've given so much character to a virus. I like it XD
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I am very far left-wing socially and economically in between capitalism and communism.
I'm sort of a "Radical Centrist", I guess. I support the Australian Green Party most out of any political party, though I don't fully agree with anyone.
Quilava is by far my favourite pokemon as it is cute and badass at the same time and has a fire mohawk!

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Postby -Ebola- » Fri Oct 24, 2014 4:48 am

Quilavaland wrote:
-Ebola- wrote:Maybe this is one of those things that you need DNA to understand, but I really don't see why it causes you distress.

This is off-topic but I've seen you all over the forums and it's really cool how you've given so much character to a virus. I like it XD


Thanks. :)
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Postby NoblePhnx » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:41 am

I shall be graciously allowing the zambies into the homes of my neighbors, if I have to hold them down to let the zambies do their thing then I will do so with a heavy heart and tears in my eyes.

Such is my benevolence and selflessness.
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Postby Zombie Fascists » Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:43 am

NoblePhnx wrote:I shall be graciously allowing the zambies into the homes of my neighbors, if I have to hold them down to let the zambies do their thing then I will do so with a heavy heart and tears in my eyes.

Such is my benevolence and selflessness.

It's appreciated, thank you very much.

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Postby Cedoria » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:05 am

Quilavaland wrote:
The Five Galaxies wrote:To try and show him how much of a non-issue it is, it's really trivial. Nothing is forced upon him that he can't ignore over a 36-hour period with zero consequences.


So that's what you're trying to do? The thing is, you have a different definition of trivial. Just because something is non-permanent doesn't make it not an issue. (If it happens every year it is permanent but that's an argument for another time.)

It still causes me distress knowing my people are dying, even temporarily, call me a whiny kid or whatever insult you want but that's how I feel. It also causes confusion for others not on the forums or who don't check the news.

And if something is appearing on the page despite me doing nothing to cause it - then it's being forced on me. That's a fact, face it. An opt-out wouldn't be forced on you, it'd just be optional. But the lack of one means this IS being forced on me. I have more to lose here.

THEN DON'T FRICKING LOG IN!!!

It's not that hard to get. The zombies are temporary, if you don't like them, go out and have a life for a few days, or just play NS normally and completely ignore them, you can still answer, issues, all the stuff you'd normally do.

The time when the events starts in the on the 'News' section of the sidebar. I suggest everybody reads it before asking pointless questions and wasting our moderators precious time.
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Postby Quilavaland » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:47 am

Cedoria wrote:THEN DON'T FRICKING LOG IN!!!

It's not that hard to get. The zombies are temporary, if you don't like them, go out and have a life for a few days, or just play NS normally and completely ignore them, you can still answer, issues, all the stuff you'd normally do.

The time when the events starts in the on the 'News' section of the sidebar. I suggest everybody reads it before asking pointless questions and wasting our moderators precious time.


But I'll still know somewhere out there on a server the statistics on my page are changing. Besides like I said you can dismiss or opt out of every other thing on this website, why suddenly make an exception for this? Which I stress is an ANNUAL event that will happen OVER and OVER again.

I've found a way around it by imagining the Quilavas have just changed colour and aren't being hurt or dying, and the population change is due to them migrating away temporarily for a cookie festival. But others who are also sensitive like me might not have an idea like that.
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I am very far left-wing socially and economically in between capitalism and communism.
I'm sort of a "Radical Centrist", I guess. I support the Australian Green Party most out of any political party, though I don't fully agree with anyone.
Quilava is by far my favourite pokemon as it is cute and badass at the same time and has a fire mohawk!

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Postby Cedoria » Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:57 am

Quilavaland wrote:
Cedoria wrote:THEN DON'T FRICKING LOG IN!!!

It's not that hard to get. The zombies are temporary, if you don't like them, go out and have a life for a few days, or just play NS normally and completely ignore them, you can still answer, issues, all the stuff you'd normally do.

The time when the events starts in the on the 'News' section of the sidebar. I suggest everybody reads it before asking pointless questions and wasting our moderators precious time.


But I'll still know somewhere out there on a server the statistics on my page are changing. Besides like I said you can dismiss or opt out of every other thing on this website, why suddenly make an exception for this? Which I stress is an ANNUAL event that will happen OVER and OVER again.

I've found a way around it by imagining the Quilavas have just changed colour and aren't being hurt or dying, and the population change is due to them migrating away temporarily for a cookie festival. But others who are also sensitive like me might not have an idea like that.


Well then, if the sensitive petals don't have an idea like that, then why don't you sit them down and explain it too them so that the two year-olds will understand.

Honestly, way to make a complaint over nothing. I know some Australian Greens supporters have a habit of doing that but, seriously.

If you don't like imagining big bad zombies eating your cutie race of people, then my advice is too cover your eyes, or just ignore it happening. You are under no obligation to play it as NS canon, in effect, there is a way to opt-out, you just don't need to press a button to do it.

The moderators are probably doing you a favour by saving you the trouble of needing to click one, I would advice spending more time complaining about issues that are actually going to be of importance to you personally. (Tip: This is pretty low on scale of importance)
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Postby World War Z » Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:11 am

Quilavaland wrote:I have no friggin idea what is going on. Will my nation get deleted? How do I block the zombies out of the region I made for my Grandma? I doubt she'll understand this. If I don't click the close borders option exactly at the right time will zombies get in anyway? Somebody please tell me what's going on.


*Mrrrrrr Graaaaaaa*

Don't think of it as an invasion. It's really more of aggressive tourism with unique dietary requirements. You, as the breathers, get to play host to millions of your citizens (if not billions) getting involved in a lengthy cultural festival. Sort of like Carnival meets Day of the Dead, meets International Hug a Zombie Day. Some people are going to tell you that it's a symbolic protest against consumerism, but for us it's all about the hugging. :hug:

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Postby Quilavaland » Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:54 am

World War Z wrote:
Quilavaland wrote:I have no friggin idea what is going on. Will my nation get deleted? How do I block the zombies out of the region I made for my Grandma? I doubt she'll understand this. If I don't click the close borders option exactly at the right time will zombies get in anyway? Somebody please tell me what's going on.


*Mrrrrrr Graaaaaaa*

Don't think of it as an invasion. It's really more of aggressive tourism with unique dietary requirements. You, as the breathers, get to play host to millions of your citizens (if not billions) getting involved in a lengthy cultural festival. Sort of like Carnival meets Day of the Dead, meets International Hug a Zombie Day. Some people are going to tell you that it's a symbolic protest against consumerism, but for us it's all about the hugging. :hug:

Easy for you to say, you're not being eaten. There's a reason we made vegetarianism compulsory in Quilavaland, we don't approve of killing other conscious creatures.
I am very far left-wing socially and economically in between capitalism and communism.
I'm sort of a "Radical Centrist", I guess. I support the Australian Green Party most out of any political party, though I don't fully agree with anyone.
Quilava is by far my favourite pokemon as it is cute and badass at the same time and has a fire mohawk!

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