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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:08 pm

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The Blaatschapen wrote:That's not what I said at all. Also, fix my quote, please. Now it looks like Punk Daddy said it.


Apologies; I overlooked erasing part of it the syntax. Meanwhile...

I guess I am opposed to limiting feedback in the way you suggest.


Thanks for fixing.

And fair enough, I was asking Moderators on the how anyway, and it has now been explained what the idea is :)
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Postby Galiantus » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:31 pm

For the non-delegates, are we going to have a directory of ideologies and who, in general, represents them?
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:50 pm

Galiantus wrote:For the non-delegates, are we going to have a directory of ideologies and who, in general, represents them?

I'm not entirely comfortable with the term 'ideology' in this context. Is 'Imperialist' an ideology? Is 'Tag-Raider'? Before you start tossing around directories, perhaps you should better define your terms. Bear in mind that this is a Technical Summit more than a Political discussion. While the 'why' is certainly a factor, we're more interested in the 'how'.

I've seen a number of comments here that imply ideologies that I hadn't considered, and quite a few 'ideologies' that I'm aware of that haven't been discussed at all. If such a directory exists, it's likely to be player created, based on which delegates are chosen. In the meantime, if someone wanted to compile a list of potential ideologies/categories and post it in a separate thread for discussion, I would have no objection.

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Postby Lyanna Stark » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:58 pm

Sedgistan wrote:
Lyanna Stark wrote:Maybe I missed this, but is there a date for when nominations will end?

There's a rough timeline here.


Okay, thanks Sedge! I was more wondering if there was an exact date, but that answers that if that's the most detailed. :)
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:17 pm

Lyanna Stark wrote: I was more wondering if there was an exact date, but that answers that if that's the most detailed.

We're not trying to hide things. It's just a matter of less-than-predictable RL workloads for involved mods and admins. We'll shut down nominations close to the end and lock in Reps, but there will be advance notice. Regardless, you've got most of a month to get nominations in place and edited. If that's not enough time, you're probably not active enough to be considering it anyway.

I'll take this opportunity to once again point out that you may edit your self-nomination post at any time prior to close of nominations. I raise this point because I can already see several nominations that are likely to fail. First and foremost, posts should follow the directions. If you can't make your point in 300 words or less, you're going to fail the Reading Comprehension badge. Second, a lot of good ideas are already being suggested in the comments threads. This is an opportunity to review and revise your presentation to better reflect a broader audience. Third, the mods have been dropping a lot of hints and suggestions about how to improve your chances, including this post. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm giving extra credit for people who learn and adapt. Finally, I'll point out once again that this is a technical summit, not a political discussion. If your post is all about your raider / defender / native history and credentials, that tells us bupkiss about your understanding of the technical game. You might want to spend a few words on that topic.
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Postby The Most Glorious Hack » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:51 am

Evil Wolf wrote:
The Most Glorious Hack wrote:If none of them want to apply, that's their choice.
Wouldn't that skew any outcome from the Summit?

Potentially, but it's not as if we can force people to participate. If some special interest can't be bothered to show interest, it's hardly our problem if their views aren't represented.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:37 am

Siv, can you explain how you have enough gameplay experience and technical knowledge already by only being here for a bit over a week.
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:42 am

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Siv, can you explain how you have enough gameplay experience and technical knowledge already by only being here for a bit over a week.

He said Siv is a puppet nation.
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Postby Blackbird » Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:54 am

A note or two:

Myrth was certainly involved in gameplay, as a prominent NPO member during the Francos/Unlimited period. His involvement caused serious consternation among the defender community at the time, and I won't get into how we felt that influenced moderator actions.

Secondly: there's nothing preventing gameplayers who want to participate in the Summit from forming a parallel unofficial Summit from which official participants can solicit ideas.

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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:23 am

Please note - the 300 word limit applies to your entire nomination post. We're looking for people who can be concise, and follow instructions.

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Postby Crushing Our Enemies » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:41 am

Sedgistan wrote:Please note - the 300 word limit applies to your entire nomination post. We're looking for people who can be concise, and follow instructions.

OHH! That's totally not what it seemed like before. I thought the background part was excluded from the word count. Edit to my nomination is impending.
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Postby Belschaft » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:41 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Siv, can you explain how you have enough gameplay experience and technical knowledge already by only being here for a bit over a week.

He said Siv is a puppet nation.

Serious questions have to be asked about someone who is unwilling to appear under their main account in this I thing. The only possible reason to do that is because they do not want people to know who they are, and there has to be a reason for that.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:47 am

Crushing Our Enemies wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:Please note - the 300 word limit applies to your entire nomination post. We're looking for people who can be concise, and follow instructions.

OHH! That's totally not what it seemed like before. I thought the background part was excluded from the word count. Edit to my nomination is impending.

Yeah, it was intended to apply to the entire post, but we realised the wording was unclear - hence the clarification.

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Postby Eist » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:12 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Lyanna Stark wrote: I was more wondering if there was an exact date, but that answers that if that's the most detailed.
Regardless, you've got most of a month to get nominations in place and edited. If that's not enough time, you're probably not active enough to be considering it anyway.


I will be putting in a nomination, but I have some things to think about beforehand. I consider myself well on the active end of the spectrum, so I hope you don't think late nominations is solely about activity and instantly discard them accordingly.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:22 pm

Eist wrote:I will be putting in a nomination, but I have some things to think about beforehand. I consider myself well on the active end of the spectrum, so I hope you don't think late nominations is solely about activity and instantly discard them accordingly.

That's fine - we won't.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:09 pm

Are topic nominations regarding "game over" moves that would cause considerable problems (such as the activities of the region of Macedon) suitable for this summit, or do I need to focus more on the actual raiding/defending events?

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:44 pm

Belschaft wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:He said Siv is a puppet nation.

Serious questions have to be asked about someone who is unwilling to appear under their main account in this I thing. The only possible reason to do that is because they do not want people to know who they are, and there has to be a reason for that.

A nomination is not a seat at the table, it's just a request for one. We'll take a variety of things under consideration when we narrow the list. You may safely assume that your concerns have been noted.

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Postby Sichuan Pepper » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:06 pm

Belschaft wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:He said Siv is a puppet nation.

Serious questions have to be asked about someone who is unwilling to appear under their main account in this I thing. The only possible reason to do that is because they do not want people to know who they are, and there has to be a reason for that.


I imagine some players may not want their main nation known as they could be expressing views that are controversial. Lets face it, there are Delegates of founderless regions that may feel they draw attention to that region by being part of the summit.
I do not see a problem so long as Mods can see who they are and there is no puppet wank going on.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:27 pm

Belschaft wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:He said Siv is a puppet nation.

Serious questions have to be asked about someone who is unwilling to appear under their main account in this I thing. The only possible reason to do that is because they do not want people to know who they are, and there has to be a reason for that.

I second this, the people of gameplay should be able to know who's going to be part of altering gameplay.
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Postby Vakolic » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:57 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:
The Most Glorious Hack wrote:If none of them want to apply, that's their choice.


Wouldn't that skew any outcome from the Summit?

Oh, I've been wondering, will the NS community as a whole be able to comment and suggest alterations on any proposed changes coming from this Summit before they are implemented?

I'm also seeing a scew in applications, mainly due to the lack of any other mercenaries. I'll get my trusty cattle prod out and see if any of the older mercs are still active. I really need to get more active in gameplay!
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Postby Monsters From The Id » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:54 pm

Sedgistan wrote:Please note - the 300 word limit applies to your entire nomination post. We're looking for people who can be concise, and


Three hundred words exactly.
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Postby Mahaj » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:24 am

Monsters From the Id wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:Please note - the 300 word limit applies to your entire nomination post. We're looking for people who can be concise, and


Three hundred words exactly.

Actually, its only 21.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:11 am

Mahaj wrote:
Monsters From the Id wrote:
Three hundred words exactly.

Actually, its only 21.


Oooh, :clap:
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Postby Monsters From The Id » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:37 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Monsters From the Id wrote:
Three hundred words exactly.

Actually, its only 21.


Ah. Only four, then.
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Postby Punk Daddy » Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:39 am

Nice to see Blackbird/Cortath nominating himself. I hope he gets a seat at the table as one of the old-time defenders.
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